[00:06:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to abettername> this is normal if your wiki is private
[00:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abettername> ahhh
[00:06:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> so use that
[01:12:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pixldev> Huh, @prabhasxd I got a notification for that
[01:12:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> morning chat
[01:12:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to pixldev> you on mobile?
[01:12:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> If ao
[01:12:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Aye
[01:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> So*
[01:12:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> If anyone reacts to your message
[01:12:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Ain’t seen that before
[01:12:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> You get a funny notif
[01:12:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Did you get one
[01:13:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> (You can't disable it)
[01:13:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> No since I was looking at the channel
[01:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Ah
[01:13:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to prabhasxd> Oh boy
[01:13:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Yeah I just reacted to your reply nothing else
[01:13:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to pixldev> (Mobile exclusive)
[01:14:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/2] Say cya to your phone soda
[01:14:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316573742679330906/image0.jpg?ex=675b8a59&is=675a38d9&hm=c36bb2927d47d193bdc50ac8a247670f26e3f8c5ec74efecfc2c083218fcea8f&
[01:14:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Try it on a message I sent somewhere else
[01:14:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> K
[01:14:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Done
[01:14:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/2] Whoooooo boy
[01:14:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316573959118131270/image0.jpg?ex=675b8a8c&is=675a390c&hm=004b27a9f56e552094341d92d9d22c921fe50d7bdd94c8a262b71419634a3b3a&
[01:15:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> HAHAHAHAHAH
[01:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Thanks discord!!
[01:16:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I mean there have been times when I wished I knew when people reacted
[01:16:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> A blessing in disguise
[01:16:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Make it configurable, and it’s better then reacting to status and PFP
[01:25:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cardinalfan69> has anyone had translated pages just have a massive jump in the number of expensive function calls. I dont do lua so im not the greatest at interpreting that kinda deal. i.e. normal page in english has 1 expensive function call, but a russian translated page has 94
[02:14:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pufflefan2600> Why haven't I got a comment when requesting a wiki?
[02:16:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Our request process is handled by volunteers who work the queue when they are able to, and we receive 100+ of requests daily.  You're getting towards the top of the untriaged queue though!
[02:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> Is there a way to change my main page so that the URL doesn't show /Main_Page at the end?
[02:49:25] <BlankEclair>	 nicks5503: request to enable "Make the main page of this wiki use the domain root?" (found in Special:ManageWiki/core) on [[SR/RC]]
[02:49:25] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC
[03:25:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bob5183> [1/2] I'm using the quote template found here: https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Quote
[03:25:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bob5183> [2/2] Is there a way to make the quote box wider?
[03:43:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to abettername> is it private
[03:44:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abettername> yeah apparently that's the issue, no big deal I just wanted a neat icon in my browser tabs
[04:05:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> how do I make the sidebar display to all visitors by default on my Wiki?
[04:05:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> where is the setting for this?
[04:20:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> it displays to all visitors by default
[04:56:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> For some reason, I visit on incognito but it doesn't sometimes display
[04:57:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316629944700506162/image.png?ex=675bbeb0&is=675a6d30&hm=9f31711a1041310c6c5b0219795ebde27c324aaab8f459c5d11e3f20978d04d3&
[05:03:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to nicks5503> cause you moved to sidebar
[05:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> by default it should be on th3 sidebar
[05:08:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nicks5503> It's not hidden on my end when I'm on the wiki logged in as owner.
[05:34:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> skin?
[05:38:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> is there like a body class i can use for certain pages
[05:45:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to toastedwell> .rootpage-Page_Name
[05:50:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell, replying to snowstacked> thank you!
[07:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] what classes are these? i want to invert em
[07:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316674933438287882/image0.jpg?ex=675be896&is=675a9716&hm=8a9221497813f38547b2a1fa72bc421e7bcb6baf5d07364a18087ae0b9364637&
[08:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's easier to edit these icons, reupload and replace, than fucking w/ invert (from my experience w/ Timeless)
[09:59:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> That extension is broken
[09:59:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Just make it yourself like how wikipedia does
[09:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> ? wdym
[10:00:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Generates two of them
[10:00:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> E
[10:00:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> what are you talking about
[10:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> sooooo Miraheze now has bsky? I don't remember seeing announcements, but it uses miraheze.org domain
[10:05:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> yup, I don't think it was announced anywhere
[10:05:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> but Miraheze on bluesky is an official platform
[10:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> we also have twitter, mastodoon, Instagram, Threads and Facebook
[10:14:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> one for move, one for edit
[10:14:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> not broken
[12:20:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] how do i center the tabbers
[12:20:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316741545814392853/image0.jpg?ex=675c26a0&is=675ad520&hm=7b2423b74e1e561eef72ac86ca607092f567b77e9452bca786a713615434eba0&
[12:34:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> tabber css is full of suffering my friend
[12:35:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to rhinosf1> We also have a subreddit
[12:37:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> 😭
[12:38:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> is there an alternative to tabbers
[12:50:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ancient ugly tabs, or make a tabber script by yourself
[12:55:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to zppix> ye true
[12:55:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I checked passphrase for the list
[13:01:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <balofo.> Has the TabberNeue extension problem been solved yet?
[13:02:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to zppix> Quarantine ground
[13:08:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to balofo.> ye mentioning it here isn't an official method for getting tech to fix anything
[13:08:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] ahh its back
[13:08:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316753531918745730/image.png?ex=675c31ca&is=675ae04a&hm=8bb7f3424535baf34a48026c0b864dced71952c6978bf4a4d6ab3b6d7213fe11&
[13:09:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> why did they change it
[13:09:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> stupid...
[13:09:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Unless it's significantly unlikely to be fixed this year, though, the deployment freeze starts at the end of tomorrow for Miraheze until Jan 6th. Only Security issues and things qualifying as Unbreak Now will likely go ahead.
[13:16:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll> What about super major stuff?
[13:17:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that would qualify as unbreak now and security
[13:17:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> below that bar would be inadequately major
[13:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll> So if technogremlins are attacking, that would be an "unbreak now" sort of thing?
[13:18:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> tabber is a highly inconvenient break but probably won't make that cut
[13:18:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if the gremlins pass through loginwiki and infiltrate the cvt fortress, then for sure
[13:18:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> and for the record I think the policy is generally a bit dumb
[13:19:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to raidarr> it's a new trial for this year
[13:19:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> to try and encourage some of our tech members who don't ever sleep to finally get a rest
[13:19:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll, replying to raidarr> Like all the stuff the wikis are stored on and all that?
[13:19:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I don't disagree that expectations should be vastly diminished and tech should only feel compelled to address the worst of issues, but being banned from doing anything even if you literally have the time and the want to do it is just very blegh
[13:19:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> and encourage time to refresh
[13:20:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> at the very least the time window is quite too long
[13:20:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> it also ensures you can't deploy anything that breaks the farm and means everyone has to respond
[13:20:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @raidarr I think a 3 week full freeze is probably right tbh
[13:20:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if this policy affects that problem, then something far worse is wrong
[13:20:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I don't think we needed the major deploy break though
[13:20:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there should not be production deployments making people panic, that means something was plain done wrong and how things are done needs to be better
[13:20:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I don't think that's added anything
[13:21:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to raidarr> yes but we've had it happen many times where deployments go very wrong
[13:21:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to rhinosf1> then miraheze needs to unfuck how it deploys, that's my rather vehement take on it and I've been sitting on that irritant for a long while
[13:21:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> 'aaah its fine' just slapping things into prod without quad checking is unacceptable at this scale
[13:22:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to raidarr> I agree
[13:22:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> we need stronger change management
[13:22:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> and review
[13:22:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> it's lacking at the moment
[13:22:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> management is the other one
[13:22:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but that's not just tech
[13:22:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> yes
[13:23:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> I mean it took nearly killing CA to get him off shell
[13:23:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> but by stopping everything we reduce the risk a lot and it allows people to refresh
[13:23:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> CA is one example of members of tech that need a festive break
[13:24:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I don't have an answer for that one admittedly
[13:24:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> nor do I
[13:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> this is my best balance
[13:24:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> unless the policy specifically blocks CA
[13:24:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> and I mean hey...
[13:24:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> and it's fairly standard industry practice to close over this period
[13:25:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> wikimedia do it, my work do it
[13:26:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> but the TLDR is tech can't deploy anything non security related or urgent and users shouldnt be chasing tech
[13:26:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Tech can still run imports, custom domains
[13:26:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> what happened
[13:27:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> we're discussing the festive deployment rules for tech @theoneandonlylegroom
[13:27:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Maybe a notice on phorge would be good
[13:27:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> Tl;Dr don’t
[13:27:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Unless everything is on fire
[13:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> there's no plan for any formal announcements, it's documented on meta though
[13:28:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> and communicated to Stewards, Board and all of tech
[13:28:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If the intention is for users to not chase tech, a notice on tech-chasing.Miraheze.org may help
[13:30:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> It isn't. It's only about deployment
[13:31:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Tech should continue to respond to bugs and other questions as usual
[13:31:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> .
[13:31:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> > Low Risk Changes and Standard Maintenance Scripts: These are permitted at the discretion of the tech team. Users are discouraged from chasing these changes.
[13:32:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> I'm not sure in what context that "chasing" is but I definitely don't see the policy as preventing bugs being fixed
[13:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to reception123> the policy does say users are discouraged from chasing open tasks
[13:32:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123, replying to rhinosf1> Hmm, I don't know where I was when it was adopted but I disagree with that. Some people might in fact have more time around the holiday period to help out with tasks
[13:33:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> The deployment part I get as if you mess up you have to bring others to fix it but here it doesn't make much sense
[13:33:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to reception123> if you have more time, you can do imports and custom domains freely
[13:33:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> at your own discretion
[13:33:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> users can still request them as normal but shouldn't be chasing tech if it's not done until the new year
[13:33:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Well I mean if a user has a bug on their wiki that's not minor I think they should be able to ask us about it
[13:34:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123, replying to rhinosf1> Ah if by chasing you mean repeatedly mentioning it then sure
[13:34:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to reception123> they can file tasks, use #support or irc or here then yes of course
[13:34:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> you can still file
[13:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> but there's no pressure on tech to reply if they aren't available
[13:35:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> users should file as normal but basically ye, don't repeatedly ask
[13:35:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Yeah, that's fine, I just understood from above that users shouldn't be asking for help which would of course not be reasonable
[13:35:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> ye, that's correct
[14:14:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> [1/2] How can I center this discord widget?
[14:14:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316770159947677776/Captura_de_tela_de_2024-12-12_11-13-56.png?ex=675c4146&is=675aefc6&hm=78ae78791d5666c8c0376937aae3becfa71f91cbb078e4bd83a5c5f060a2ac21&
[14:15:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> [1/2] JS code is 
[14:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> [2/2] ```$( '#discord-widget' ).html( '<iframe src="https://discord.com/widget?id=1305618490694176799&theme=dark" width="300" height="400" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" sandbox="allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox allow-same-origin allow-scripts">/iframe' );```
[14:15:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> located on MediaWiki:Common.js
[14:16:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> hi again chat
[14:16:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to libresoldier79> honestly just make it wider
[14:16:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> bruh
[14:16:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> actually
[14:16:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> your right actually
[14:16:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> lol..
[14:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [1/6] ```css
[14:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [2/6] .client-js .tabber__tabs {
[14:19:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [3/6]   scrollbar-width:none;
[14:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [4/6]   justify-content: center;
[14:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [5/6] }
[14:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [6/6] ```
[14:19:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316771394432008212/image.png?ex=675c426c&is=675af0ec&hm=feefb2872131521ef9ff8dfe3138679541abe0b37069f0ad9c265f06e4a58c57&
[14:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> I thought this was replying to me 😂 ]
[14:26:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> How do I get @announcement ping
[14:28:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn> You can activate them in the Information and rules channel
[14:30:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> yay
[14:33:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> tysm
[14:38:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> real
[14:43:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pufflefan2600> [1/2] Not related to the last question that I made, but how is this wiki still in the queue
[14:43:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pufflefan2600> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316777389531074672/image.png?ex=675c4802&is=675af682&hm=cb94b9620a0668e7d5a9d91217c443a982327be3c1bb6fca252afa4e82610a69&
[14:44:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to pufflefan2600> since nov 3rd 💀
[14:44:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pufflefan2600> Got reopened, user took 2 weeks to reply to a question
[15:05:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> Is there a template I can use that allows me to make a collapsable list?
[15:08:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] `<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed>`your list here`/div`
[15:08:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] on template page, between tags, insert `{{{1}}}`, and when using template you go:
[15:08:54] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 
[15:08:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] `{{`template name`|`
[15:08:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] your list here`}}`
[15:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [1/2] How do I change the colour of these parts?
[15:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aespectix> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316787471408955444/image.png?ex=675c5165&is=675affe5&hm=357f55dbb9a4245df89e116cd7379981bdc4b66c705b584716c4c2a8af969f41&
[15:24:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> you can find their class or id via inspect element
[15:24:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> and then color them via `background`
[15:25:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> ive got portable infobox builder, but i cant find a way to edit the values of the infoboxes for pages
[15:25:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316788019491110922/image0.jpg?ex=675c51e8&is=675b0068&hm=b115f34a13b5d38d5bb648fa0df93974916e775691bde33fdfa4a307896093a8&
[15:25:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to the_ives_of_march> you edit template, in source code
[15:26:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> or you mean something else?
[15:26:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> but when i insert the template into the page it just says <template:infoboxname><template:infoboxname/>
[15:26:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> thats in the source editor
[15:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> and in the visual editor it says it has no parameters to edit
[15:26:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> do you mean {{infoboxname}}
[15:26:50] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:infoboxname 
[15:26:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxname?action=edit&redlink=1>
[15:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march, replying to snowstacked> no i dont i was just using that as a placeholder
[15:27:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to the_ives_of_march> it seems like you didn't actually made infobox, did you deleted all labels and values in visual builder?
[15:27:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> or no hold on im misremebering how its formatted
[15:27:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> i did add labels and values but it just has nothing anyways
[15:27:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to the_ives_of_march> you can add parameters to edit in visual editor via TemplateData
[15:27:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> i tried messing around and giving them all default values but then none of those were editable
[15:27:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to the_ives_of_march> all templates need TemplateData stuff to work in Visual Editor
[15:28:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to the_ives_of_march> maybe send a link to page
[15:28:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, at this point we can't tell by just words
[15:28:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> i deleted the test ones so ill send the one that i actually had the intention of using
[15:28:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> if you couldnt tell immediately im verry new to this
[15:28:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> https://elsbury.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person_V1
[15:29:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> everyone start somewhere
[15:30:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to the_ives_of_march> [1/2] seems ok
[15:30:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to the_ives_of_march> [2/2] did you insert it like `{{infobox person V1}}` ?
[15:30:09] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:infobox_person_V1 
[15:30:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> with the curly brackets
[15:30:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> yeah
[15:30:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> hold on i need to restart discord its running like crap
[15:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/3] weird
[15:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/3] normal on my end
[15:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316789715504205917/image0.jpg?ex=675c537c&is=675b01fc&hm=0cee75c2a54548fc111b32b536d7698b230ff9af6c148864019611f276fc3875&
[15:33:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> strange
[15:33:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> well okay ig its not strange cuz youre editing it in source editor
[15:33:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> and i was trying to do it in the visual editor
[15:34:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [1/4] oh heres your problem
[15:34:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [2/4] all your rows are called "data1" "data2" (the `<data source="data1">` bits)
[15:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [3/4] so `|Born=` doesnt do anything
[15:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316790350399934535/image.png?ex=675c5414&is=675b0294&hm=f5fc1bba5113eacaca0993518cffaa5dc4d9a04d0ac4d4ce701c97ca41bfd793&
[15:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [1/2] all of these should be changed to "Born" or "Died" or whatever the title is (case sensitive also)
[15:36:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316790706865573980/image.png?ex=675c5469&is=675b02e9&hm=41a4dc8199c802d74a3870374be242edc04819ec28c69200aefa5f9f262b901f&
[15:36:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> alright
[15:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> so the data name should be the same as the label name
[15:37:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> yeah
[15:40:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> label is just that, visual presentation of that field
[15:41:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> real parameter where you input values are defined by data tags
[15:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's just sometimes label is too long for a short neat parameter, or there's no label - just data
[15:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> yaaaay it did something
[15:43:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I thought, one could do a nav box via wikitables
[15:43:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> how do i add template data to infoboxes so the proper parameters show up in visual editor without me having to add them myself
[15:44:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> enable templatedata extension, if it already is there should be a button somewhere on the source editor that says "edit templatedata"
[15:47:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> i enabled the extension but i dont see any button in the source editor
[15:49:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [1/2] might be its taking a while to apply the change, when it does it should look like this
[15:49:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316794082923642890/image.png?ex=675c578e&is=675b060e&hm=f0bca0638b66aeed0daa418b53ccf5d625d7c3c32d84ed002d6e31fbc74dce48&
[15:50:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> alright
[15:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> alright it finally took effect
[15:58:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <the_ives_of_march> thank you all
[16:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to prabhasxd> yo
[16:00:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> man  these css codes
[16:02:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to kingplaystation> wut
[16:05:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to prabhasxd> sorry unrelated
[16:06:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to kingplaystation> :moonch:
[16:06:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to prabhasxd> real
[16:17:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> How would I do HTML table based nav boxes?
[16:20:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> idk what are you asking here
[16:20:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> HTML tables are, well, tables
[16:24:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> btw can i edit footer-poweredbyico??
[16:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> [1/2] these
[16:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316802907483537519/Screenshot_2024-12-12_at_22-24-24_MediaWiki_Common.css_-_Aceistan_Wiki.png?ex=675c5fc6&is=675b0e46&hm=468c86febc208b7ea477a3e44b1abb5d83cda36d450993b7d0647e3330e43ae5&
[16:33:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to kingplaystation> gotta phorge to change em
[16:37:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] how do i move protection indicator icons to the side, like fandom
[16:37:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316806113446068264/image0.jpg?ex=675c62c2&is=675b1142&hm=f158acf0a5069a81fe7a66cb3b9f510974e1cfa2de56f47865a2b471cc77778f&
[16:46:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to snowstacked> css?
[16:47:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> margin-left?
[16:47:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to snowstacked> [1/2] which ?
[16:47:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation, replying to snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316808634113724416/Screenshot_2024-12-12_at_22-46-01_Create_Task.png?ex=675c651b&is=675b139b&hm=5f8241cf8598ac902b5f107cd79d7b7e3ea599b92df80b12bbf5f9898a98ae0b&
[16:49:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to kingplaystation> just the normal create task ig
[16:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kingplaystation> k
[16:49:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to kingplaystation> thats an option but my wiki has three different widths you can change
[16:50:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> and i want to make it sticky
[17:25:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <han.0000> I would like to voice my appreciation for the revamping of Special:Analytics, it has been very helpful
[17:39:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> [1/2] How do i make the 2nd and 3rd row fill in the gap on the right?
[17:39:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316821749366652998/image.png?ex=675c7152&is=675b1fd2&hm=0ee3b9939c3313f39f1dde752ca9a09143c81b891d1e7497d4da1ccb2776ee06&
[18:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> colspan i think
[18:21:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> Yes... but i dont know how to apply it to an entire row
[18:22:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> i only know how to do it to an individual column
[19:15:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> rowspan
[19:24:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Oh,  I could use rowspan in a wiki table to do that thing I wanted
[19:38:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, that too
[19:43:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [1/2] anyone know why my tag isnt working (i have the extension enabled i believe)
[19:43:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316852838567120916/image.png?ex=675c8e46&is=675b3cc6&hm=1b1fcb81f6a23e71a018982ebc7f133f8982066321ce834a4806c103835bc056&
[19:43:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316853059455942676/image.png?ex=675c8e7b&is=675b3cfb&hm=7d78ab8c6ca315c9f1a0df5d341fd2fb74614b30d9c6768cb62323dfa0883979&
[19:46:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> missing Template: prefix in src
[19:49:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [1/2] 💔
[19:49:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316854465705545808/image.png?ex=675c8fca&is=675b3e4a&hm=4065fa0594546e7ab16da1d1085024c641c7d5d3e55e63d70654e405cba344eb&
[19:49:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> thx btw
[19:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> what you see as title is the title of the page + what's in URL
[19:51:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and if it was altered, you still have URL
[19:51:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> prefixes define namespaces, they're important
[19:52:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to toastedwell> find Page information link in toolbar, and there will be Change model button
[19:54:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> template style doesnt override commons right
[19:55:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> should i put ! important after everything
[19:57:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> hmmm I don't remember that being a thing
[19:57:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but I guess if it doesn't work otherwise then yeah
[20:02:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> still not loading css 💔
[20:25:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tehblueangel404> [1/2] I want to replace this icon with a Microsoft Fluent icon. How do I do so?
[20:25:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tehblueangel404> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1316863428794650654/Screenshot_20241212_122336.jpg?ex=675c9823&is=675b46a3&hm=78861c7bf5752c41b9fde48bd7d413d58ac53a5d5f61c771fd0345ffc5f3cf6d&
[22:11:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lole5309, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> How to embed a wikimedia commons picture
[22:12:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lole5309> If I upload it it just says file duplicate but if I reference it it doesn't show up
[22:29:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clubzfanboy> How does Scribunto `require('Dev:` work? Like, what defines where Dev leads to? Because apparently it's not Special:Interwiki...
[22:33:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to clubzfanboy> Is this from fandom
[22:33:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> dev is defined though
[22:33:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[dev:]]
[22:33:41] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:
[22:33:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/>
[22:34:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clubzfanboy> I'm trying to add a new one, and the interwiki part works fine, but not if I try to use it in `require(`
[23:02:14] <fanL>	 hey is it okay if i take the inactive template off a wiki im about to start editing frequently on or do i have to ask someone to take it off
[23:03:25] <fanL>	 the guy who made the wiki didnt even edit the main page of it
[23:09:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clubzfanboy, replying to pixldev> ugh, I guess it was <https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Lua_templating/Getting_started#Global_modules>
[23:11:14] <fanL>	 okay nevermind it took it off automatically
[23:48:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [1/9] Ok I got it working on my wiki, but it only shows what's right after the second heading.
[23:48:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [2/9] This is an example wikitext:
[23:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [3/9] ```Tests are an important thing on my wiki.
[23:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [4/9] ==List of Tests==
[23:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [5/9] * Test 1
[23:48:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [6/9] * Test 2
[23:48:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [7/9]  Test 2,5
[23:48:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [8/9] * LibreSoldier's Test```
[23:48:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79, replying to levlies> [9/9] The result would be
[23:48:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <libresoldier79> bruh i clicked enter sorry :P
[23:56:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <levlies> Hmm
[23:56:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <levlies> Give me a sec
[23:59:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <levlies> Okay sorry