[00:23:32] Also, would anybody be able to make a JS script that makes .mw-content-container narrower when the Vector 2022 menu is closed and it is its defualt size when the menu is open? [00:28:11] Is it possable to move the Vector 2022 toolbox outside of the content area box or would I need a JS to make the content area wider when the toolbox is open? [00:34:49] How do I download this extension? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters I can't find this on my manage wiki settings [00:47:22] We don’t support it [00:47:40] Normally you’d request it but iirc it’s declined from deploymentanywyas [00:48:05] I guessthere's no way to see how many times a page has been viewed right"?: [00:48:11] You can get page view info already by going to ?action=info [00:48:59] Also [[Special:Analytics]] [00:48:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [00:49:00] [00:50:45] how do I add that extension to my wiki? [00:50:51] I only see it for the Mirheze part [00:50:55] Oh [00:51:05] To a not miraheze wiki? [00:51:17] Well my wiki is made on Mirhaza [00:51:26] Then it’s already installed [00:51:28] It’s global [00:51:33] It’s on [00:51:38] Oh that page that you linked is for MY personal wiki? [00:51:39] Just change the URL to your wiki [00:51:41] No [00:51:43] This is meta [00:51:53] It’s the same page on your wiki [00:51:56] What’s your subdomain [00:52:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317655423184273439/image.png?ex=675f79bd&is=675e283d&hm=761e7dfda4aa81b1798b642dd9760b254239f7bcd32878ad04b2221ffa7cbe00& [00:52:19] https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:52:29] hello everyone [00:53:56] Hi hi 👋 [00:54:09] Yeah that needs to be fixed [00:54:33] Go to special:manageWiki/permissions and give something view-matomo or whatever it’s called [00:56:06] what category is view-matamo? [00:56:25] Permissions don’t have categories [00:56:26] Iirc [00:56:39] It’s under not assigned [00:56:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317656558498480138/image.png?ex=675f7acc&is=675e294c&hm=3e311f4dcac0dce50f102e3fec1ed9f56f6253b9b2303f924c5a7072bb1ae577& [00:56:48] Oh you have to create new group> [00:57:09] No [00:57:18] None of those groups have the right [00:57:27] Pick one to give it to [00:57:29] * for everyone [00:57:33] user for logged in [00:57:37] sysop for admin [00:58:51] oh so it says "viewnayltics"? that box? [00:59:50] [1/2] check this box right? [00:59:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317657339410649110/image.png?ex=675f7b86&is=675e2a06&hm=bcf34507046c7c3f190f508f4bbf329f860fc1d0d1986d7a23af4da4dc2cae66& [01:01:02] oh found it! [01:01:12] is there any way to extract it or download? [01:02:46] Uuuuuuuuuuh [01:02:56] What about SearchDigest? Is that a thing in Miraheze? [01:03:00] Each field has a check box for raw info [01:03:03] Where [01:04:58] https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/SearchDigest [01:05:07] or anything similar of that matter [01:09:32] Never heard of it [01:09:34] So no [01:09:35] Let me see [01:14:18] Actually kinda [01:14:33] There should be something on the analytics page? [01:14:41] If not we may be able to add this next year [01:15:26] That's nice. I like that feature to know what search attempts people make [01:16:24] See if it’s there [01:18:54] I only see top wiki searches for the top 10 [01:29:01] [1/5] This is the new idea theme for my wiki. What do you prefer? [01:29:01] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317664678955978852/NewTheme1.png?ex=675f825c&is=675e30dc&hm=e3a8884683da47cfc3faee4c6e263e1f9d6d34267885139c3b7a8f0ecade3084& [01:29:01] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317664679388119070/NewTheme2.png?ex=675f825c&is=675e30dc&hm=faab55908ef01f94819d7a23ae2936e575fe6e611b97722f7b93bcac27e303e7& [01:29:02] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317664679861948486/OldTheme1.png?ex=675f825c&is=675e30dc&hm=6853864d214d99ae73d87970251a144b91abf8b12140e0fc1074c7a18931c4d4& [01:29:02] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317664680210206720/OldTheme2.png?ex=675f825c&is=675e30dc&hm=30b0dd65621e43185ca808cfcf14b06f695053a856f669b8ae5b380a850ceae0& [02:25:58] no way more wiki [02:51:50] #offtopic please [03:37:28] Does MediaWiki have some design templates we can choose from? just like when we build a website? [03:37:33] or do we have to code from scratch? [03:43:08] i mean theres dev.miraheze.org [03:43:10] :shrug: [04:01:29] [1/2] any idea what might be causing this to appear? [04:01:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317703050814558218/image.png?ex=675fa619&is=675e5499&hm=f905d41588511dca9543e912aae8ccc7fa9398ccacf0c8312042e60a1b8468e1& [04:07:29] [1/3] template apparently? [04:07:29] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317704560378380299/image.png?ex=675fa780&is=675e5600&hm=58c48d380085d9b11810a14c3510094f7b37b16af1ddcfb9a32557d5df50271f& [04:07:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317704560655073280/image.png?ex=675fa781&is=675e5601&hm=b10b37efbcbb48f0c937b7da1b1ecf5fb38bd2132a93e98bfadb4153f63e796b& [04:11:07] dont use [[ ]] when editing image parameter [04:11:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/_ [04:11:12] for some reason, this only happens when the [04:11:14] ya [04:11:15] thank you [04:13:41] shut up!..... [04:16:43] [1/6] I used `.portable-infobox .pi-data-label, [04:16:44] [2/6] .portable-infobox .pi-data-value { [04:16:44] [3/6] display: flex; [04:16:44] [4/6] align-items: center; [04:16:45] [5/6] }` [04:16:45] [6/6] why isn't my infobox I made with portable infobox centered? [04:17:06] just text-align: center it ? [04:17:19] [1/2] mightve found the issue with the placeholder images [04:17:19] [2/2] enable page images extension [04:17:55] page images extension? [04:17:58] just a second .. [04:18:15] i'm currently trying to fix the super-casesensitive search issue via titlekey and cirrussearch but to no avail [04:18:17] [1/3] I added .portable-infobox .pi-navigation { [04:18:17] [2/3] text-align: center; [04:18:17] [3/3] } [04:18:19] hi, i'm trying to make a miraheze account but it told me my username couldn't be used because ".*V[0O]+[1!I]+D.* ", why is this? [04:18:19] yet still didn't center [04:18:35] I just found that code off google so idk how to read [04:18:50] Well usernames cant contain those characters anyway [04:19:12] [1/2] yeah then check this in Special:ManageWiki/settings [04:19:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317707508156203120/image0.jpg?ex=675faa3f&is=675e58bf&hm=9de29a5b3159806f37b31dca2e75ca07d4cc8afef6ed4b567bf0f9eae49ff560& [04:19:39] i only entered "voidfloof" so i dont think it's just the characters [04:20:34] AntiSpoof deemed it similar to an existing username [04:20:41] wikiseo is to be checked too I assume [04:20:44] Probably because Void already has the "Void" username [04:21:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317707962629750824/image.png?ex=675faaac&is=675e592c&hm=d42b0d05aef5e1ceb7f13a9ec4d22b15e596220051b5ee57092766d9e5ebb61b& [04:21:20] very weird honestly .. [04:21:53] wait so it just won't let you use a whole word because someone already used it? [04:23:36] PageImages arent immediate after enabling the extension; they're only populated when the LinksUpdate hook runs [04:23:37] yes [04:24:03] even with the sufficient changes it doesn't seem to work despite a hardrefresh @_@... [04:25:16] wait for a few mins [04:31:32] somehow someway searches are no longer casesensitive thankfully, i'll wait a bit more and see if the image issue gets resolved. @snowstacked thank you very much!! [04:32:03] npnp [04:32:10] I added Preview to my extension. Yet the page previews don'twork [04:32:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317710885090889759/image.png?ex=675fad64&is=675e5be4&hm=952cf3875888a8bbac1db6926ae8a1b8cbfc180ea0aa2936bcdb12e465c2718c& [04:33:05] it isnt instant [04:33:48] + im pretty sure it takes a long while to happen [04:42:20] [1/2] oh [04:42:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317713330118463518/image0.jpg?ex=675fafab&is=675e5e2b&hm=db797f898a4cce0420addc1ad4ef1cfa7ddd3853402cfe8823a93bfc7cd66836& [04:42:23] uhhh [04:52:00] Is there a place to see when a wiki was closed? [04:59:57] For portable infoboxes, how do I make an optional field where its label won't display if it's not filled? [05:07:08] Okay I tried to import infobox template from https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [05:07:11] Yet it's giving me this error [05:07:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317719628465831967/image.png?ex=675fb589&is=675e6409&hm=c1c7d2e73620ae604987b85636efff672bf53e7629f697b5b5654a67c68a6d9d& [05:09:44] https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [05:24:14] thats bc its semantic mediawiki [05:26:49] What wiki domains do you recommend I import infobox from then? [05:27:26] i dont know [05:27:28] your own? [05:27:32] or you can practice [05:27:50] from either PI or infoboxneue [05:28:20] I someone with kindergarten level coding so I can't seem to comprehend what each function does from scratch. [05:28:53] I can build my own infobox if I was given a baseline template. I tried media wiki but it's so confusing [05:29:09] dont you already have a PI set up [05:29:32] Yeah. but I feel customization is the hardest part [05:30:20] What if I want to not display a certain label if a parameter is not filled? [05:30:21] if its about you centering your infobox [05:30:25] try inspect elementing [05:30:49] Isn't coding a PI different of a language than the {{Infobox}} way? [05:30:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [05:30:50] [05:31:10] is the viewing of your own analytics prohibited? i cant seem to access Special:Analytics anymore [05:31:27] well PI is already pre made for ya, infobox neue is something you code via scribunto [05:31:34] you need to give yourself the analytics permission [05:31:39] special:ManageWiki/permissions [05:32:23] [1/2] @mmiky images now appear [05:32:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317725925252530269/image0.jpg?ex=675fbb66&is=675e69e6&hm=5d6531b650f6676fe95a29a429af9d14e89031a573761fe603bc6ca9e1bde26b& [05:32:34] ohh got it thanks [05:32:55] thank you very muchh [05:34:04] Yeah it's just I have infoboxes with if statements. that's where it becomes challenging. [05:34:24] such as 'if a field is empty' dont display label. [05:36:05] [1/12] and I still can't center that infobox despite: [05:36:06] [2/12] .portable-infobox .pi-title { [05:36:06] [3/12] text-align: center; [05:36:06] [4/12] } [05:36:06] [5/12] .portable-infobox .pi-data-label, [05:36:07] [6/12] .portable-infobox .pi-data-value { [05:36:07] [7/12] display: flex; [05:36:07] [8/12] align-items: center; [05:36:08] [9/12] } [05:36:08] [10/12] .portable-infobox .pi-navigation { [05:36:08] [11/12] text-align: center; [05:36:09] [12/12] } [06:06:26] [1/2] i'm sorry, i'm very very new to all of this. does anybody know a fix for this officeholder infobox? [06:06:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317734497323847740/image.png?ex=675fc362&is=675e71e2&hm=d4d4485d10cc3a9649607d0f1157d6f51c47519045aa6d449253256ea30d581b& [06:11:50] i imported the template and such from wikipedia (which i learned too late is probably not the best idea apparently?) [06:12:03] yea [06:12:12] dang [06:12:20] maybe set a max width to the infobox? [06:12:45] would that be editing the Template:Infobox officeholder ? [06:13:19] wait i think i just figured out why its not workingh [06:15:19] nvm, however i learned i didn't even have Template:Infobox imported lol [06:16:22] [1/2] which speaking of, also has the lack of a box [06:16:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317736996369858572/image.png?ex=675fc5b6&is=675e7436&hm=180966a5c76fda068d4b627b71cc9ca7299bedde9798dc1853d1869700638008& [06:22:36] oh is it possible the portable infoboxes extension is doing something funky? i had tried that early on before realizing they arent 1 to 1 with wikipedia's officeholder infobox [06:23:31] i mean it could be recreated with PI [06:23:45] from what i see its just
and [06:27:48] the stylization is slightly different unofrtunately, otherwise i totally wouldve used it [06:38:31] you can style portable infoboxes [06:38:35] its quite easy [06:40:09] oh damn well alright [06:40:21] i guess where would i start learning how to do that? [06:40:53] specifically to look like the officeholder infobox from wikipedia [06:41:18] i assume probably just a lot of trial and error with CSS yea? [06:43:14] yep [06:43:24] you can check fandom's guide to infoboxes since fandom made portable infoboxes [06:43:38] gotcha thank you thank you [07:37:25] [1/4] when it comes to the entire $wgTimelessBackdropImage thing, there's no such thing as tiles, stretched, or fixed bgs and this is what happens if you insert one that's so small there's a good chance an article can cover it. [07:37:25] [2/4] my only solution to that is using the power of CSS, which im so ass at, is there an alternative to whatever this is, hope i'm right. [07:37:26] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317757392770830457/image.png?ex=675fd8b5&is=675e8735&hm=bf441495347845e6d1d9ef2c65683494a9b9572b45abe8cfd65fd46bdc39ced0& [07:37:26] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317757393022750730/Wiki-Bg.png?ex=675fd8b5&is=675e8735&hm=1b9a8b0c7460a75a2d0621e9bc78557685dc39426f33e203d2aa8c51233a3796& [07:42:04] So my wiki isn't loading. I think it's an issue with the custom domain, but Cosmic controls it and he's inactive as usual. [07:42:05] https://dcmultiversewiki.com/ [07:42:49] Can someone take a look? If it is the domain and it can't be solved without Cosmic being here, just remove it for the time being. [07:42:50] [1/7] ``` [07:42:50] [2/7] #mw-content-container { [07:42:51] [3/7] background-image: url(the thing); [07:42:51] [4/7] background-repeat: repeat; [07:42:51] [5/7] background-size: 200px 200px; [07:42:52] [6/7] } [07:42:52] [7/7] ``` [07:42:53] inside timeless.css [07:43:01] THANK FUCKING GOD. [07:43:02] make sure to preview it before u save it [07:43:45] server cant be found 🤒 [07:43:59] That would be the problem yes [07:44:31] like which shit do i learn css from other than myself staring at w3schools all the time [07:45:05] mdn [07:45:26] w3schools looks absolutely outdated [07:45:28] use mdn instead [07:45:31] hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhwhere'd be a good place to start for css [07:45:34] sorry [07:45:36] im quickly losing memory of knowledge [07:45:39] shitt [07:45:45] i only KNOW html [07:45:57] mdn [07:46:11] [1/2] here? [07:46:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317759597099876442/image.png?ex=675fdac2&is=675e8942&hm=f38ddbc5367bb517ddd2c60c8f1666b8b12111e71ebc6393c238188a46185918& [07:46:21] yea [07:46:23] do ur searching [07:46:25] like background [07:46:33] thanks [07:46:44] what aspect did you start with when you first started styling your wiki? [07:46:51] there's much i have in mind but i don't know where to start yet [07:49:40] i actually started with the body [07:49:48] the main part [07:50:04] then i started fiddling around with backdrop-filter with drawers and menus [07:50:52] i BETTER hope there is an alt for the vector one (the 2010 ver) [07:50:59] uhhhhhhh [07:51:02] if its the same code istg [07:51:17] vector has different things you gotta do [07:51:21] i hate vector in general [07:51:48] believe it or not its used for almost every wiki hosted in miraheze (tied with timeless) [07:52:08] thats why citizen is the goat [07:52:15] ghnfdkjghsd [07:52:19] i hate citizen. [07:52:34] thankm u very much again [07:52:39] Cosmos is pretty great/wiki-ing on easymode [07:52:50] For my 2c [07:53:34] citizen is easy to style [07:53:38] [1/2] yyeah that... thats peak if i knowit (ignore the attachment) [07:53:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317761474747432990/he_has_legs.png?ex=675fdc82&is=675e8b02&hm=09b1bcd813ed5a46799aa037d801f198b326c56f747834e04a28e7f1044a8919& [07:53:52] kinda but it lacks a bit of creativity [07:54:04] the only thing i vould customize is the background [07:54:07] just that [07:54:12] well it might look basic [07:54:20] but its like literally awesome to customize [07:55:10] timeless is more unique to me [07:55:11] since uhh [07:55:18] u can easily go through navigation n such [07:55:37] the only thing thats good abt it is the searchbar at the very top [07:56:40] [1/2] also a not so fun fact where if you turn on dark mode everything just goes inverted (not to mention the outdated image on the mainpage) [07:56:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317762238861541467/image.png?ex=675fdd38&is=675e8bb8&hm=27148d5c7a7d0f2c367365113bd1f504830adcdad27d5d0b3061d85796d25d7f& [07:58:04] [1/2] when i talked abt the th miraheze wiki on fandom everyone just suddenly went pro-fandom [07:58:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317762588683272242/image.png?ex=675fdd8b&is=675e8c0b&hm=d3e50fea31a7bca763a6af26a7639b9f44b7ab6768dd8a0789e7a5279b52cbeb& [07:58:54] yeah cause thats the point of dark mode extension [07:58:56] it inverts [07:59:13] also tower hereos [07:59:16] cool [07:59:18] are u forking [07:59:38] it isnt associated with the original staff team for the fandom wiki [07:59:43] maybeee [07:59:45] oh [08:00:46] [1/5] when i talked abt the miraheze wiki on the original th fandom wiki everyone just went pro-fandom at one point [08:00:47] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317763268349136896/image.png?ex=675fde2e&is=675e8cae&hm=5e3e3bce3aacd3c7b0b5d1597e43637258ea15c4f58b2256f1673de027353fba& [08:00:47] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317763268655448104/image.png?ex=675fde2e&is=675e8cae&hm=c551f04accccbef652b0955d4c258a8b46144843dd57d9c55b0cd105b9d207e0& [08:00:47] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317763269158502400/image.png?ex=675fde2e&is=675e8cae&hm=7d19330ba0b02b23f49442824359785fec86c3aee167f6ff4365887180891e54& [08:00:48] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317763269553029160/image.png?ex=675fde2e&is=675e8cae&hm=fe4c2c790fef223bee17f7cc4386443da639aa3ccb8e0bf70797b0b5d26f6889& [08:01:56] its hard to convince people who are used to the same platform tbh [08:02:20] but it's gonna be hard to run a fork when majority stays on old place, willingly [08:02:33] true [08:03:12] the thmw (tower heroes miraheze wiki) is straight up influenced by the tds fandom wiki and even the fuckign phighting wiki [08:03:45] dont forget the pressure wiki and inkipedia for inspiring me to keep thmws default theme to timeless [08:04:02] p sure u gotta give credit if ur using phighting wiki css [08:04:26] that [08:04:41] i only took a piece of the css which is the logo fix thing [08:04:49] do i have to credit them for that or no [08:05:32] https://phighting.wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.css#L-3 [08:06:39] OOOOH that [08:07:13] [1/2] here i go wow [08:07:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317764893587542056/image.png?ex=675fdfb1&is=675e8e31&hm=57ef0daa4ba1064bc222518a7f1c8d4104b047dc721c9b1e0a14054788b8597a& [08:10:13] lmao same for my wiki [08:10:47] like they actually fucking hate miraheze because no forums [08:10:50] and hate discussions [08:11:23] the talkpage exists but theres a chance theyll use it to shitpost here like its fandom [08:11:26] [1/2] like this dude is more worried about how to show off their art [08:11:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317765954607779860/image.png?ex=675fe0ae&is=675e8f2e&hm=b35d60c7d867359c3b7101e3e190388993a94e17fd1d3971d39d4ae8b9c2566c& [08:11:56] i expect that [08:12:15] my wiki's forums are basically filled wth brain dead posts [08:12:16] theyll have to do smth like user:wariothegreatestdeveloper/my art [08:12:18] or some shit [08:12:22] some user made an account this feb [08:12:33] and has amassed almost 15000 posts alone [08:12:40] on fandom or miraheze [08:12:41] and basically boasting about it every now and then [08:12:45] fandom [08:12:49] knew it [08:12:59] they pretty much shitpost, make art [08:13:12] and dont like off-topic posts, even though they also make them LMAO [08:13:38] [1/3] like lmao.... [08:13:38] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317766504812380180/image.png?ex=675fe131&is=675e8fb1&hm=9fe3b29b954c845a92bb66d41bb7df7af8852772fbb09d82e867148fff6844c8& [08:13:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317766505118830642/image.png?ex=675fe131&is=675e8fb1&hm=9461609b6afa7a08442e9a066e32bddb1a497182f368026cb5850cc744d2be27& [08:13:50] at one point one user wanted to start like a protest again miraheze [08:13:54] because of no forums [08:14:03] but honestly what can we do about it [08:14:06] absolutely nothing [08:14:10] kindof a fun fact the pizza tower wiki moved to miraheze cuz the pizzahead article was so vulnerable to vandalism https://pizzatower.wiki/wiki/Pizza_Tower_Wiki:Moving_from_FANDOM [08:14:16] they are so dependent on forums, they feel like its the most important thing ever and fandom answered their prayers [08:14:43] whenever, there is literally no activity on the wiki, they just make posts like "the wiki is dead" "dead wiki hours" [08:14:48] [1/2] for the talkpage rules thing, this is so fuckign true [08:14:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317766798866907198/image.png?ex=675fe177&is=675e8ff7&hm=7cec1c0d7e9409f087365521eea069fb8fe4c469cc60054c65a0ac7d852d2bb1& [08:14:50] pretty sure majority of thr wikis moved because of vandalism... not rlly a fun fsct [08:15:10] the more "educated people" actually counter these posts [08:15:17] like forums dont make the wiki alive [08:15:26] its the users who contribute towards it [08:15:35] battlecats has a forum i think [08:15:43] we dont rlly have a lot of editors, most people are all forum people [08:15:47] external one [08:16:04] ohhh i will for sure enforce this... [08:16:12] well yea [08:16:29] most people have decided to stay on the fandom wiki [08:16:34] the reason i created thmw was mainly cuz of how fandom is and the lack of information in here like physical information and stats stuff [08:16:49] basically being dramatic and saying "well ill stay on this wiki, and watch it die. good times" [08:17:09] (these people joined the wiki like this year) [08:18:13] we need people to learn talk pages, not straight up refuse to use them because "ughghghhghg i cant shitpost nor post anything!!!!!!! THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!! MIRAHEZE IS A SHITTY WEBSITE WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!" [08:18:33] one user was like this, and now LOVES miraheze [08:19:31] [1/5] honorable mention is the discussions tab (kart kid is a monster, not a cat) [08:19:31] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317767983686484008/chrome_FdBFj6D5BB.png?ex=675fe292&is=675e9112&hm=266c0f587937b1e0e5a1445ebae0507a820e4e96c834e670025136ef53813ac1& [08:19:31] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317767984009449553/chrome_m7woWBhV6p.png?ex=675fe292&is=675e9112&hm=1f9d2c74bf880d13442239a155d10fa593d476bd26b4c1d90380c963e443a804& [08:19:32] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317767984265170994/image.png?ex=675fe292&is=675e9112&hm=cde12ea19dd778d0de0614b3a8aa1972c01d003a810d8dfb600b28365b851425& [08:19:32] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317767984537796719/image.png?ex=675fe292&is=675e9112&hm=e593f8d3dc5068e11be12b6f9f59f4f98f1e52ec83a750c87f7f1c7fda712d84& [08:19:57] almost exactly like my wiki [08:20:44] currently people are basically asking us to stop working on the miraheze [08:20:48] but we don't care so :3 [08:21:25] oh THOSE are the guys i hate [08:22:01] this should prob be in #offtopic [08:22:06] oh [08:22:12] were sorry lol [08:22:17] yuh, but im done yapoing about this (also my bad) [08:22:32] had to get this outta mah darn system [08:23:05] one last thing to talk abt in this channel: cuz of how popular fandom is theres braindead kids on this fandom who disagree or abuse the discussion page like its sum social media shit [08:28:35] 1st image is sum deviantart shit, 2nd is a poll with an unrelated 4th choice, and the last 2 images are just nonsense [08:41:01] [1/2] how would I go by evening the middle row out to take the same space as the top and bottom? [08:41:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317773397379383316/image.png?ex=675fe79c&is=675e961c&hm=e30d94b18286e1e17588810013f13cf37bcecd20264c0b21b8f4c7f2b9a203b3& [09:07:59] I like it as it is nice and aligned [09:18:27] sorry if this is the wrong channel, how to get the donor role? [09:18:56] I only donated 2 dollars via github does that even count [09:18:57] ha [09:23:56] really? [09:24:20] to be honest, the only way I could line it up (with what I know) is colspan=2. If you say it's fine though then okay [09:25:09] I mean, it looks ncie as it is and leaves room for other stuff that may be added [09:41:41] Needs to be a $10 donation iirc [10:00:33] thank you very much for your input [10:00:48] can classes be applied to images within infoboxes? they don't seem to work [10:05:08] [1/6] .mw-page-container { [10:05:08] [2/6] background: linear-gradient(to bottom, transparent, #08121c, #08121c, #08121c, #08121c, #08121c, #08121c,#08121c),url(https://web.archive.org/web/20230721235851im_/https://images8.alphacoders.com/853/853012.jpg); [10:05:08] [3/6] background-repeat: no-repeat; [10:05:08] [4/6] height: auto; [10:05:09] [5/6] } [10:05:09] [6/6] How do I make the gradient start/top in the same place, regardless of how long page content ? [10:17:31] background attachment fixed? [10:18:23] just updated it to 10 [10:27:50] [1/6] url(https://web.archive.org/web/20230721235851im_/https://images8.alphacoders.com/853/853012.jpg); [10:27:50] [2/6] background-repeat: no-repeat; [10:27:51] [3/6] background-attachment: fixed; [10:27:51] [4/6] background-size: cover; / Ensure the image covers the container / [10:27:51] [5/6] } [10:27:51] [6/6] I have no idea how to stop the image scrolling with the wiki stuff already tried background-attachment: fixed; [11:17:20] DO you think a "free to use CSS bank" would be a good idea? (a bunch of pre made free to use CSS themes) [11:25:38] you mean like [11:26:00] CSS snippets for other wikis to use [11:26:52] Ain't that what dev wiki is for [11:26:53] Yes. [11:26:56] I mean, technically it's already a thing w/ CCBYSA wikis, everyone are free to take bits w/ credits, I do that and let other to do so [11:27:01] yup [11:27:48] What skins do you think is hardest to make "pretty"? [12:17:30] I also noted people seem to love customizing Vector old a lot, is it easy to customize or something? [12:26:39] probably, yeah [12:26:51] Old Vector has been around for a long time, there are tons of CSS for it [12:27:03] Wiki.gg does do cool stuff with their CSS on Old!Vector [12:41:43] It is really is [12:41:45] Super fun [12:41:58] And also takes a while because there's a lot of stuff you can customize [12:47:11] pretty much yeah, vector is not complicated [12:47:45] wiki.gg seem to have a bunch of themes (template styling?) to offer for admins before opening the wiki [13:15:11] Likely Citizen, lots of stuffs change weekly and likely to be borked [13:15:46] Vector is the easiest to do as there are lots of CSS templates as well as the code is almost nothing [13:18:01] citizen's lowkey the easiest tho [13:28:08] hi! mirage skin seems to be broken https://utg.miraheze.org/?useskin=mirage [13:32:45] [1/2] Er... db error? [13:32:45] [2/2] [9a570ee77c9ffd98a2906921] 2024-12-15: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [13:51:54] For the classic code with the infobox template, how do I add a code that adds an image? I only learned infobox images with portable infobox. [14:09:46] [1/2] I made this with portable infobox: is there any way I can widen the first column? [14:09:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317856128977080332/image.png?ex=676034a9&is=675ee329&hm=e2a38c96719ca61d04a3fc90b2bfc54001cb2ba6053fae9e96b97ba9116c17b7& [14:48:49] This kinda makes me want play Roblox again😢 [14:51:38] Any solutions? Sorry for re-asking this twice. If needed ping me [15:01:42] @serverlessharej what’s the fundraiser at now, hasn’t been updated in a bit [15:17:22] Is citizen a mess to CSS code then? [15:18:37] no [15:19:58] I never tried to retheme that skin before, have done Vector, Vector 2022 and Cosmos [15:31:48] [1/2] shit actually looks good on timeless wtf lmao??? [15:31:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317876772548775956/image.png?ex=676047e3&is=675ef663&hm=6b958361720c37a79f4444757edda66ef6c686c4bf20b984405d3291f39cff22& [16:33:34] i hate timeless so i hid it from preferences [16:53:03] $5,269.11 [16:53:19] :wikipetan: [16:53:22] Insane [17:05:56] i am currently putting in some licensing info templates and related info on a wiki. is it possible to turn off the "none selected" option? [17:28:01] Pardon? [17:30:55] How come this page doesn't have a title icon in the search? I had that extension enabled for a long time. And that image is old. Is there any reason for this algorithm? https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/HP [17:31:42] is it possible to change the CSS of a portable infobox for only infobox? [17:34:03] You can add a theme parameter to the infobox, like say `` this in the resulting HTML would add a class called `.pi-theme-bob` you can then target with CSS. [17:35:10] would it not be possible to like make a subpage of the template called something.css and direct the template to that? [17:36:20] wait i think i misread [17:36:32] im still a bit confused but i think i see what you mean [17:37:29] so like in the common.css i have the general infobox CSS, then i put ``.pi-theme-bob {`` and all the CSS under that will be followed by the infobox [17:44:27] Yes [17:44:40] [1/2] or like this but replace ``.portable-infobox`` with ``.pi-theme-bob`` [17:44:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317910209896906773/image.png?ex=67606707&is=675f1587&hm=b51d8526933ac18232a51e64282d5a270d49c1f6bdda81a33e16883303f84ba1& [17:45:01] also the way you described to add the theme parameter doesnt seem to work [17:46:20] oops seems like it didn't go through so I just send the pic [17:46:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317910684121436270/image.png?ex=67606778&is=675f15f8&hm=cb6107e82903f4447e9e5b4e49872c65bb9d4564b87f5e6784e8a8b5396bf4ce& [17:46:39] [1/2] I recently found the css for changing cursor but it seems missing one for selecting text. [17:46:39] [2/2] How do you add that one? :ThinkerMH: [17:48:18] i thiiink i might have got it? do you replace the ```` tag with ````? [17:49:32] Yes, it is a parameter added to the main infobox tag [17:50:04] Wait, how did RuneScape wiki do those swichable themes? [17:51:03] i see [17:51:27] it always takes a minute for css changes to update so ill see if it worked in a minute [17:52:51] Indeed it does for css written in the MediaWiki pages. You can use the browser inspector for test css changes though on the fly (though it doesn't get save there, but it shows the changes live as you change stuff) [17:53:03] yeah [17:53:30] ik what the changes im making are i just need to make sure that they work on the infoboxes i want them to [18:08:50] Mixture of JS and Cloudflare workers [18:24:36] Oh? [18:31:08] [1/2] as I said before, PageImages is an enigma [18:31:09] [2/2] I suggested to try to set up image via `{{ceo:` function but idk if it'll work [18:34:58] I believe you mean `{{seo:`? 😉 [18:35:44] oop lol [18:36:09] {{Seo}} is a template? [18:36:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Seo [18:36:10] [18:39:02] [1/4] no, it's a parser function from extension which should already be enabled on your wiki [18:39:03] [2/4] [[mw:Extension:WikiSEO]] [18:39:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [18:39:03] [3/4] look up the syntax part [18:39:03] [4/4] iirc would be `{{seo:|image = ...}}` [18:39:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/seo:Template: [18:39:03] [18:42:44] This part? [18:42:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317924827318718464/image.png?ex=676074a4&is=675f2324&hm=614f2639f410f50e53a0d5eab63f35e98ce021a7c6d88ec2a2a49a8de3498462& [18:46:38] no [18:46:40] man [18:46:59] pick a page which you say doesn't show little image in preview [18:47:20] and in that page's source code type the syntax, forcing the image [18:48:03] `{{#seo:|image=Thisisanimage.png}}` [18:48:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23seo:Template: [18:49:21] [1/2] hmm I tried to add the text cursor icon but now it doesn't show the default one :confusedcat1: [18:49:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317926491001983078/image.png?ex=67607631&is=675f24b1&hm=cc5f3cfe3c836a8558e69a8e9e852a4b5900dc823f060ba20609d067033e1a2d& [18:50:24] Oh so we have to put this on every individual page for a specific search title icon? [18:51:25] hi - who can I ask for nsfw-related inquiries? [18:51:30] or * where do I go to [18:53:06] [1/2] yeah, it's not very nice solution hence why people stick to PageImages [18:53:07] [2/2] PageImages has its own algorithm and it's not easy to appeal to it [18:53:32] [1/2] wdym by inquiries? [18:53:32] [2/2] want to report a wiki or? [18:53:39] nono [18:53:46] u novp hf thsi sopvepfic og [18:53:50] oopsies [18:54:04] I have this specific image on an NSFW wiki [18:54:22] i've heard nsfw images need to be blurred, but to what extent does this go to [18:54:37] the image in question I am asking about does not show any genitals but it is suggestive [18:54:53] so - should suggestive images be blurred? [18:55:05] hmm [18:55:26] I can't consult on this [18:58:37] I have Panel Images enabled too. [18:58:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317928878001623101/image.png?ex=6760786a&is=675f26ea&hm=3f31fbd2f3b887a55313c982b56ae149a27373d74b4135d77981c33ea86cd4b7& [19:00:30] [1/2] pizza tower wiki's domain certificate seems to have expired, but last time this happened i couldn't do anything about it since (to my knowledge) the certificate fell on miraheze [19:00:31] [2/2] i think it's the same thing? but it's been fucked for a couple of hours now [19:01:24] all the custom domain is, is that it just points to miraheze's nameservers [19:07:59] MacFan you here? [19:08:47] yeah, that's why I'm suggesting seo: thingy, try at least on one problem page [19:10:17] Mostly JavaScript, but the Cloudflare script checks the cookies and sets the css class before the request is served to the user [19:10:21] To save a FOUC [19:11:28] A wah [19:13:12] Renewals should be automatic, I'm not sure why this isn't working for you. [19:13:29] ticket time? [19:13:55] I asked MacFan to look, he should be able to see where the error lies before we get a ticket [19:14:54] hopefully we figure it out soon!! [19:15:00] if we get progress do ping me [19:15:25] Tech has a lead on it, not to worry [19:15:33] WHOOPEE! [19:20:08] @superkirbylover now? [19:21:16] still screwed [19:24:31] Hopefully will resolve within 30 minutes [19:24:38] And the underlying fault should be fine [19:24:44] Now [19:28:00] @superkirbylover now, it's working for all of us now? [19:30:20] IT WOOORRRKSSS [19:30:22] thank you :] [19:35:12] holy fuckign shit is that the ptw dude? [19:39:17] Maybe :sus: [19:42:27] https://media1.tenor.com/m/Evb05hTC-sQAAAAd/luigi-cute-mario-bros.gif [19:42:27] maybe [19:46:58] https://tenor.com/view/wegabros-wega-wega-storm-luigi-awesome-gif-26484551 [19:48:19] [1/2] How come my portable infobox I made is taking up extra space on the page? [19:48:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317941328021159989/image.png?ex=67608402&is=675f3282&hm=51cf2313575279f052e9d562262420d61f1dfbd74cd11f56e8c0447292cc95f1& [19:55:51] probably an error with the code [19:55:53] idk [19:55:57] im not an expert [19:56:57] https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Monster [19:57:58] uhh cant help with that [19:58:40] [1/5] and for how lackass im at with these the gnu template is so fucking unaligned at one point [19:58:40] [2/5] ```
[[File:Heckert_GNU_white.svg|left|50px|link=]] Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the '''[[Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License|GNU Free Documentation License]]''', Version 1 [19:58:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Heckert_GNU_white.svg https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License [19:58:41] [3/5] .2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts./div [19:58:41] [4/5] [[Category:Templates]]/noinclude``` [19:58:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Templates [19:58:41] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317943935066439740/chrome_MUYe8fKA3D.png?ex=67608670&is=675f34f0&hm=554269f93832eecf3bb7b59fa2db4aa627de89fa7c1398998c014d5f8971b30b& [19:58:48] GET AWAY [20:11:34] [1/2] Hello, [20:11:35] [2/2] could I potentially have the Template:Strikethrough/doc imported into my Miraheze wiki? [20:12:59] Just needs padding on inside bottom I thinl [20:13:57] [1/2] Looks good for me (Chrome on Ubutnu 24.04) [20:13:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317947778818637844/Screenshot_from_2024-12-15_20-12-33.png?ex=67608a04&is=675f3884&hm=81d935b4c4e9cb48c71cd153f2498ff4806aa88731d77cc948f90451ea157b5f& [20:17:09] If you use the visual editor, it would show that the page text is slightly downwards. I'm someone with a bit of OCD so that kind of bothers me. [20:21:38] [1/2] drew a line for reference [20:21:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317949712707354654/image.png?ex=67608bd1&is=675f3a51&hm=fc6186f93dfcd9019fb53b8e67c449563db0fd0f4e066e9ae8237f8b16c1e62d& [20:21:45] I only ever use the soruce editor [20:22:21] [1/2] On a different infobox, it aligns pretty well. That box was not built using portable box [20:22:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317949894727569519/image.png?ex=67608bfd&is=675f3a7d&hm=a5ab85fdcaf8148a576853bc3751d2b43833475808cacf7476a33ea582970c5d& [20:46:10] Flash of unstylef content [21:37:35] [1/2] How can I use {{PAGENAME}} without this happening when transcluding a page? (Preety sure there is a parser to do this?) [21:37:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [21:37:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317968826494746695/image.png?ex=67609d9e&is=675f4c1e&hm=135f650b203d1b584e353efacb9eda39524b0f8d5aebc94c98cd37b3efa7ca93& [21:43:08] [1/2] @snowstacked [21:43:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317970223395115060/image.png?ex=67609eeb&is=675f4d6b&hm=31f4e02f4887f485ca45ef0b20187a0d7be135c867fb5f55d34c9bffdb442c44& [21:58:45] YOu have the link at the start you could remove that [22:10:15] Hey, our wiki just went down completely [22:10:23] https://urbanshade.org [22:10:59] It seems to be an issue with custom domain wikis as https://phighting.wiki is also down a:themuncher: [22:11:29] But https://phighting.miraheze.org works [22:12:56] https://rainverse.wiki [22:13:04] @paladox or macfan, around? ^ [22:13:23] jesus [22:13:26] it's happening [22:13:27] happened earlier w/ pizzatower.wiki and was fixed [22:14:04] although seemingly different issue [22:14:20] my custom domain wiki (gogigantic.wiki) works fine tho [22:14:23] MacFan4000: h e l p [22:15:34] CC @reception123 @originalauthority @bluemoon0332 [22:17:12] Wha [22:17:31] Varnish is striking [22:17:34] Well [22:17:40] I meant stroke but strike works too [22:18:04] striking is probably the better phrasing [22:18:06] All varnish custom domains are down it seems [22:18:07] nvm pizzatower.wiki is down again too [22:18:21] how my wiki appears unaffected tho? [22:18:47] Infrastructure engineer problem [22:18:59] Oh, sorry :sorry: [22:19:07] https://tenor.com/view/stare-linkstare-catstare-theboysbutdumb-gif-26094112 [22:19:34] even with the tech freeze something decides 'imma break now' [22:20:11] it's been fixed [22:20:15] Gonna poke @paladox on that then to so all active infra [22:20:16] nginx OOM'd [22:20:20] LMAO [22:20:39] That seems to be a common theme around here [22:20:40] Wait [22:20:46] Then why also varnish wikis [22:21:14] because it was on cp [22:22:03] The end user on varnish wikis is served by nginx on cp* [22:22:28] Does cloud Not route through NGINX? [22:22:59] Yes but nginx on mw* [22:23:17] CF is mw* -> cf -> end user [22:23:37] varnish is mw* -> cp* -> end user [22:24:04] Oh [22:24:25] So all the cp servers just OOMd at once [22:24:34] Yup [22:26:06] Is there a cause or just felt like it [22:30:24] it's not end of the year w/o some server hijinks, am i right [22:32:14] No these are hyjinks [22:32:17] Last year was [22:32:28] https://tenor.com/view/dead-penguin-kms-die-i-want-gif-13749305 [22:48:32] How come the main page still uses a different icon? I tried to use the {{seo}} line. https://artale.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:48:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:seo [22:48:33] [22:49:24] `{{#seo:|image=Maplestory Artale.png}}` is on the top of the line. [22:49:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23seo:Template: [23:27:19] give it some time [23:28:21] actually, wait a sec [23:29:50] [1/2] check this setting [23:29:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1317997075962789908/IMG_20241216_022928.jpg?ex=6760b7ee&is=675f666e&hm=110c8940208e2b8394648c47e4dd81ae72dabd265ae097e0971219613c5c5c9a& [23:30:14] [1/2] again, wait a while for it to start working [23:30:14] [2/2] if it won't then idk