[01:19:47] [1/4] You state This wiki is moving or forking from an existing wiki [01:19:47] [2/4] https://tampvan.miraheze.org/wiki/ [01:19:47] [3/4] Forking (copying) is not allowed from Miraheze wiki's. [01:19:47] [4/4] Thus your request was declined. [01:23:59] Yes they are, as notifications are too short. [01:25:17] [1/2] They're really not though, you leave someone a talk page message and they get a notification to read it. They still have to click the notification to view the message. The same that they could just click the notification to view the request. [01:25:17] [2/2] Between this and all the welcome messages you are starting to spam. [01:32:16] [1/5] "All the welcome messages" [01:32:16] [2/5] I only use those when there is more interaction between me and the new user. For example if he states on his userpage that he wants help, or requests a wiki. [01:32:16] [3/5] It's not completely forbidden to post these you know. Only those who requested a wiki, or make a first edit (like "Hi") I don't welcome anymore, and haven't for a week or so now. [01:32:16] [4/5] I don't feel that I am spamming at all. [01:32:17] [5/5] And if you refer to the five from today, those were replacements from the now banned user who thought it was wise to introduce which 9 kinds of wiki's were or were not allowed to be requested. [01:42:09] [1/2] I'm not going to argue with you, because frankly it never gets anywhere and I can't be bothered. [01:42:09] [2/2] But from someone who doesn't visit Meta that often, this appears as spam to me. Whilst I acknowledge your reasoning it is inherintly flawed. That's all I will say on the matter. [01:42:44] it isn't spam although I feel the standard notification should be sufficient in this case (at any rate it didn't seem to clarify for the requestor anyway) [01:45:14] to supplement this, the request frankly seems to be confused and to have changed substantially across multiple revisions. It had one domain, tampvan, then it went to qualesterra; then it wanted to be a wikipedia for roleplay countries, now it wants to resemble a specific world [01:59:48] I'll look again [02:06:58] [1/5] It never was called Tampvan [02:06:58] [2/5] The fork (sourceurl) was Null, then Tampvan, which it stayed that way [02:06:59] [3/5] The subdomain (fieldurl) was corrected a few times. [02:06:59] [4/5] The only thing he kept changing was the category and the subdomain url [02:06:59] [5/5] Finally he changed the reasoning after my first decline but the fork url was still there. [02:10:30] Talk page messages sure are contentious issues it seems [02:19:18] I have no idea why? [03:36:33] what are the prettiest/most stylized miraheze wiki designs? [03:38:27] Thats in the eye of the beholder [03:39:36] Check my wiki https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page#tabber-tabpanel-Skins-0 which has a good bunch of skins installed, and compare them [03:41:11] Anisa, Apex, Blue Sky, Chameleon, Citizen, Cosmos, Cologne Blue, Dusk To Dawn, Foreground, HasSomeColours, Medik, Metrolook, Modern, MinervaNeue (📱), MonoBook, Timeless, Truglass, Vector legacy (2010), Vector (2022) [03:41:14] til about a miraheze underage policy [03:41:37] Was there an update with Timeless? [03:41:51] My wiki's icon disappeared a few days ago and idk what caused it. [03:41:58] but only on Timeless. [03:43:10] Yeah there was [03:43:13] Hang on [03:46:34] [1/3] the description below Timeless Logo ($wgTimelessLogo), saying [03:46:34] [2/3] `"Set to the filename, excluding the File namespace, of a logo to use for the Timeless skin."` [03:46:34] [3/3] So only `File-name.png` for example [03:47:14] Danke [03:49:18] Hum. It worked but also deleted the styling around it. Thanks though! [03:49:32] calling it a miraheze policy isnt super accurate [03:50:17] Might need to tweek the css yeah [03:50:35] Iirc it’s the law that we can’t collect data of U13 users, as such the terms of service don’t allow them to register on the site [03:51:08] Yeah probably. [03:55:11] never start a wiki kids, its so much work [05:52:01] how do I give my main page special looks from all the other pages? [06:06:19] Depends on the wiki and who's editing it [06:06:46] It's possible for you to just create the wiki and people will do the rest for you [06:07:10] But it can also be possible for you to remain the only editor on that wiki for a very long time [06:07:19] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [06:20:50] ive been editing on Equestripedia for 8 years now and a total of like 9 people have ever made notable contributions besides me [06:22:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334408324447469619/Screenshot_2025-01-30-14-22-05-16_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=679c6c18&is=679b1a98&hm=943faa9acc7043572d4e2013a54fb5b8f160e31ea418f7000ebb21340963933b& [08:26:00] <.labster, replying to amelialoveheart> You still have a sitenotice about Miraheze shutting down lol [08:26:31] Man [08:26:37] that was like a year and a half ago? [08:26:56] I hope Miraheze lives on forever [08:28:29] really? where from? [08:29:59] <.labster, replying to justleafy2003> Miraheze will be the site that lasts 1000 years [08:30:10] but I have changed the request, but it is still rejected [08:32:13] Hopefully [08:33:07] Please help me [08:33:19] <.labster> Though it will likely have a "look at my edits, ye mighty, and despair" with 0 recent changes in the last century kind of vibe [08:34:45] <.labster, replying to movingjetzz01> Just so you know, the person you are replying to is offline, in western europe, and may not respond for a few hours. [08:49:19] okay, thanks [08:52:23] <_zaiden> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334446099980750878/image.png?ex=679c8f47&is=679b3dc7&hm=9b81789b7b1af239454bdf5d112388db9d98c4b6d470217c6384c7bd4dde3605& [08:52:25] <_zaiden> what's this about [08:55:26] <_zaiden> seems like the skin fucked up lol [09:26:27] If i were to hire someone to design my wiki CSS what would the standard price be [09:26:47] Very varied [09:27:04] please elaborate [09:28:05] It entirely depends on who you hire and how much skill they have / where they are based [09:28:16] what would you say the range would be [09:29:30] No idea [09:29:53] You should probably look at the professional services channel on the mediawiki discord [09:30:19] Mediawiki discord? [09:30:22] Yup [09:30:31] could you send me an invite? [09:31:23] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1001373934874284112/1202010624695996436 [09:31:40] also, would it be possible to modify the wiki sidebar to contain links to some category pages? [09:32:06] You can do that using the Mediawiki:Sidebar page [09:32:35] NGL seems pretty dead [09:33:23] There are also a whole host of people listed on mediawiki.org [09:33:26] I suspect it's not dead [09:33:43] I see @atxatx has posted in there and they are still very much around [09:33:53] Just that there's not a huge number of people using it [09:37:36] where is this list located on mediawiki.org? [09:37:57] thx [09:37:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_development_and_consulting [09:38:04] real [09:38:36] [1/2] I see this. What do I do on it? Also, how do I view the wiki as a regular user instead of an administrator? The sidebar I assume shows something different depending on that [09:38:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334457730538143804/image.png?ex=679c9a1b&is=679b489b&hm=bd38b5afc8614230405bcccee26e00a9b9c121d908780c4cd4d377b31536a9e5& [09:39:10] You can open the wiki in an incognito tab [09:39:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [09:39:46] Please do consider using the search functionality [09:51:53] just learn HTML amd CSS basics [09:52:03] everyone start somewhere [09:53:30] when I just joined here in 2021 Athria refused to learn CSS, but now she modifies her self-hosted wiki's look just fine w/ minimal help lol [11:29:55] [true](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1313181587101323274.webp?size=48&name=true) [11:35:45] @rodejong what have you been typing for so long lol.. [11:36:57] does anyone know how to make local interwiki prefixes [11:37:24] give yourself interwiki perms [11:37:59] ah [11:39:46] [1/2] which one do i choose? forward? [11:39:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334488224227135508/image.png?ex=679cb682&is=679b6502&hm=0d4647aeba2e7fad804d98d47e16f3455e6b8bdf95fb78e7606a594eea9ce435& [11:40:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334488416854741013/image0.jpg?ex=679cb6b0&is=679b6530&hm=3c5b08859707265cc310d212162472dea5e443d1f972cccdec9eb86768066f1d& [11:44:19] I will leave a message on your talk page [11:44:51] That what's going to his talkpage. Better there than here 😄 [11:46:00] o [11:58:30] okay [11:59:24] I hope it makes sense. [12:43:26] there are dozens on world building wikis, focused on fictional worlds, but none of them act like "Wikipedia but fictional" [12:46:46] [1/2] Hopefully this one is accepted, because we really need it 🙂 [12:46:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334505082900840568/Screenshot_20250130-194553.png?ex=679cc635&is=679b74b5&hm=6ee6b53475ee6145d65e2944ce0a7040fbed6f0f5a6bad901c2da3cbd956e547& [13:02:22] Good luck [13:30:17] This is now approved :DoneMH: But keep the policies in mind and do not change the scope or deviate to much from the approved scope. [14:03:39] ...crud [14:04:07] All that mess was happening at one of the busiest times of my life so a lot of stuff ended up instantly out of date [14:06:48] [1/2] im not gonna post this in #support since this could be a minor issue, but as someone who is new to this coding system, why is the label and data not working? [14:06:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334525227375263784/Screenshot_1236.png?ex=679cd8f8&is=679b8778&hm=20274e6ec53c12040a3470bda93befe7e95776f21ceaf34eb74fbdc8f41dcca6& [14:07:50] Header's use the same number slot as labels and data iirc [14:08:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334525607027150939/image.png?ex=679cd953&is=679b87d3&hm=1ac0b3a9aadc1a9d70bebf55629f8593c3a77bf09b1d5f1bd46c1b7c7626344a& [14:08:39] so I think changing data and label to `2` would fix it? [14:08:56] yep it worked [14:08:58] thanks [14:09:09] I suggest to change all label/data to proper words, for data preferably lowcase non breakable words [14:09:09] it took me awhile to figure it out too [14:09:10] but why tho [14:09:24] why does putting all of them under the same name cause this to bug out [14:09:41] because doing so is not logical [14:09:56] roughly speaking [14:10:13] [1/2] https://equestripedia.org/wiki/Template:Character?action=edit [14:10:13] [2/2] It's not perfect but if you need reference I have my infoboxes set up in much the same way. [14:10:41] elaborate [14:14:39] and how do i do that [14:14:59] by editing template page [14:15:13] this is currently a sandbox build [14:15:14] Amelia shared an example above [14:15:30] BUMP. Please help 😭 [14:22:29] [1/2] also, how do i remove things from the toolbox sidebar and how do I change the place of the things I add to it? I made a 'create a new page' link but I want it to be closer to the top [14:22:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334529167173353472/image.png?ex=679cdca3&is=679b8b23&hm=6d067f6074812f79df3bd1f689c6c5770d0b56dfc413b585df3ffa6b906d229e& [14:24:08] really?, thank you very much😳! [14:24:59] I am very happy now [14:25:48] thank you very much! [14:28:46] [1/2] how do i make it check the current time and add a lil thing below the parameters like "(2 hours ago)" [14:28:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334530752481595422/image0.jpg?ex=679cde1d&is=679b8c9d&hm=77ba1e98ad9c75c848c502dddac6d85626fe9c3dfea813c1030ba5025008b350& [14:28:57] link, if needed: [14:45:00] [1/2] I am getting a bunch of duplicates in search [14:45:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334534840338616421/image.png?ex=679ce1ec&is=679b906c&hm=9458d5259f3d3d1e2776580cfce38c159c80654a41304de3aa5992382611928b& [14:45:23] That’s a new one [14:45:42] how do i create a template infobox? [14:47:18] Easy [14:47:39] Find a similar infobox on wikipedia, import it and all dependent templates [14:47:47] No no no no [14:47:51] Don’t do that please [14:48:17] Not unless pain and suffering is a fun past time for you 😅 [14:48:22] [[infoboxes]] [14:48:22] [14:49:45] Wikipedia infoboxes are such an insane task to import [14:51:50] [1/2] how do i make these gone unless the user's language is like korean or indonesian [14:51:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334536557075370037/image0.jpg?ex=679ce385&is=679b9205&hm=54fb8ec9205dce7ccdcfa861b6f91c981c17a65007aa01c3c416d576f068a5a1& [14:52:56] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Time_ago [14:52:56] [2/2] Wikipedia uses this template, but I think there are other ways to handle it. [14:53:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334537018989871195/cover2.jpg?ex=679ce3f3&is=679b9273&hm=6083ceb4ca3b5c31cf0dda0abf28b6d58a836264a023cde3a5b30d85af14b99e& [14:53:49] i am so confused rn [14:54:08] wait you lowkey mightve just saved my life [14:54:15] 🫶🫶🫶 [14:55:24] [1/2] im trying to bring whatever i made here in this sandbox over to my main wiki [14:55:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334537456019574875/image.png?ex=679ce45c&is=679b92dc&hm=e3dc2bfcb9f89c7efe45bff1a1f6e27baac1ee6da1f416d9063c08038aa81f9a& [14:55:36] but it keeps like saying it's a template and i need to create one [14:55:38] but like [14:55:43] how do i create a template infobox [14:56:03] im looking at the article and it's just leaving me confused [14:56:58] Importing Wikipeida Infoboxes: Miraheze's version of Seeking Mr Eaten's Name ("By God, why would you even think of pursing such a self disructive thing?") [14:57:11] Templates are under the Template: space, so Template: Infobox [14:57:41] trying to import the Yugipedia infoboxes is my white whale. [14:57:55] [1/2] what now [14:57:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334538087900123186/image.png?ex=679ce4f2&is=679b9372&hm=e527acb05fbe229b237c756b82b1f3a319a8c658cf09e6f50191a23a6393e895& [14:58:13] it's probably easier in the long run but it uses so much commands that are no longer supported and idk how to siff through them all. [15:00:33] [1/2] someone pls help [15:00:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334538750390435870/image.png?ex=679ce590&is=679b9410&hm=c6226b2cbc0cd6b3a3512738656ef4f67423903b6b39bd3f7d462008417f0f52& [15:02:20] I think there was a miscommunication here. You put the code of the template into the template page, then you use the template itself on other pages. [15:03:32] but an infobox itself is a template [15:03:43] how am i going to make a template in a template [15:06:02] [1/2] The way that infobox works is you have a 'base" template, then you use that to make other templates. For reference. [15:06:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334540132241506304/image.png?ex=679ce6da&is=679b955a&hm=c8431f7db0dc5911daa261a181a58be09c9e31e53771ef9b9ed3c278695c32e1& [15:06:19] look [15:07:05] [1/4] enable extension PortableInfobox [15:07:05] [2/4] then go Special:InfoboxBuilder page - it's a thing that will help you to build an infobox visually, very simple one [15:07:06] [3/4] might require a refresh for the first launch [15:07:06] [4/4] in the end you'll get an easily coded template, but the look might be off - it can be changed later w/ some other kind of coding [15:07:46] also just that, yeah. [15:08:14] the thing about portable infobox is that it's gonna be easier to maintain [15:08:36] [1/2] we also have some already made infoboxes too, portable and "classic" kinds, here [15:08:36] [2/2] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]] [15:08:37] [15:36:02] ok ik this sounds ridiculous [15:36:24] but how do you even download the portablewiki [15:40:11] You don’t download it, you have to enable it [15:40:15] [[infoboxes]] [15:40:16] [15:40:39] how do you enable it? [15:41:38] Special:ManageWiki/extensions [15:44:56] [1/2] there must be an Administration sidebar, this is were admin can do lots of settings and stuff [15:44:56] [2/2] on Miraheze there are lots of already installed extensions, so via Manage this wiki's extensions you'll be able to turn on or off them for your wiki [15:45:06] uh huh [15:54:51] [1/2] so i got the thing enabled, now how do i put the files in the portable infobox thing [15:54:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334552414694674503/image.png?ex=679cf24a&is=679ba0ca&hm=1c32677d40d18c5b623c816502c9e7e2d020ea826ca4c1eee7d9cdaa328573ba& [15:55:38] [1/2] thats for self hosted wikis [15:55:38] [2/2] just go to Special:PortableInfoboxBuilder [15:56:18] [1/2] don't think about files [15:56:18] [2/2] I told you already, on Miraheze extensions are already installed [15:57:49] [1/2] now go to Special:InfoboxBuilder page [15:57:49] [2/2] if it seems to load endlessly, refresh the page [15:58:47] is that link supposed to be red coloured? [15:59:02] [1/2] Still waiting for this to get approved [15:59:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334553471482990735/image.png?ex=679cf346&is=679ba1c6&hm=86c3a334e8cf857ade8d259659420b5c391d204e04d86a2e6784fed58547b03c& [15:59:50] [1/3] yeah, you are in the queue, wait for your turn [15:59:50] [2/3] make sure you aren't skipping questions for reviewer [15:59:50] [3/3] friendly reminder - Miraheze is run by unpaid volunteers [16:02:12] [1/2] did you enabled extension? [16:02:12] [2/2] in administration menu thingy? [16:02:20] yes [16:02:34] [1/2] im supposed to see this right [16:02:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334554357609529364/image.png?ex=679cf419&is=679ba299&hm=3903bb581b7ea548e452668a2a0624e19f74b32608da8ed4a7f4f95a9250fa0f& [16:02:44] yeah, this is the builder [16:03:10] buttons on the right add elements and you can then drag them around [16:03:22] click on element to change its label and parameter [16:04:18] so all i gotta do now is just construct the infobox and use that as my template [16:05:46] [1/6] yeah, you'll save it and after that you can use it w/ the code you showed to us previously [16:05:47] [2/6] name it, say, Template:Character [16:05:47] [3/6] and on normal article you do [16:05:47] [4/6] `{{character [16:05:47] [5/6] |name = Fluttershy [16:05:48] [6/6] ...}}` [16:06:31] i still don't get the whole template thing but ig that will work for now [16:08:09] [1/3] templates are type of pages which can be used several times on other pages [16:08:09] [2/3] imagine a list w/ questions and empty fields for answers [16:08:10] [3/3] questions are parameters, and in fields you provide values for them, those answers [16:08:32] doesnt tower heroes wiki exist [16:12:58] <_zaiden> any way to bind accounts to third party the same way you can bind your profile to github/google on several platforms [16:13:19] doubt [16:13:27] can't say for suee [16:13:32] <_zaiden> ig that requires techs [16:13:50] no [16:14:04] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> is it bc of db space [16:14:13] privacy? [16:14:22] also no [16:14:46] <_zaiden, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> doesn’t matter considering it’s confidential and u just get an access token [16:15:05] You can have ouath from Miraheze to login to other stuff [16:15:11] like we have for Phorge [16:15:21] but you can't login to Miraheze with Github etc [16:15:24] @_zaiden [16:15:38] which way round do you want [16:15:45] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> What about just binding the account? [16:15:54] <_zaiden> Like registering normally and being able to link [16:15:58] <_zaiden> for verification purposes or smth [16:16:13] you could use something RealMe if the service supports it [16:16:25] <_zaiden> is it an extension [16:16:28] but you can't have a link github to Miraheze [16:16:56] <_zaiden> yeah I don’t mean to register to miraheze through third party [16:16:58] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RealMe [16:17:00] <_zaiden> mainly just binding to your profile [16:17:16] ye there's no bind a miraheze account to a github account [16:17:44] you can add a userbox to say what you're github is but there's no proof in that [16:18:06] I've never had anyone suggest just binding accounts before [16:18:20] login/register for miraheze with a third party is not supported by our auth [16:19:03] <_zaiden> mhm [16:19:14] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> seems useful [16:25:20] [1/3] Anyone know what's causing species to not appear? Does PI not support templates as data? [16:25:21] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334560088509251689/image.png?ex=679cf970&is=679ba7f0&hm=16c90eeceaee5bc81ec26e2c3cc401daf5bcfe9af016b76a09384c387e42d57d& [16:25:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334560088773361704/image.png?ex=679cf970&is=679ba7f0&hm=6b36b0a212f41eece12ed24daf016684e904b3924f81c8ad4695e4dc2514c758& [16:33:40] <_zaiden> user-written extensions are allowed on miraheze right? for their own wiki [16:34:14] <_zaiden> my reply didn’t register so I’ll ping @rhinosf1 [16:34:53] not if it's only viable for a single wiki [16:35:01] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> hmm ok [16:35:16] <_zaiden> ye makes sense [16:35:22] there might be other ways to achieve same outcome though [16:35:25] <_zaiden> if it’s generalized then it’s a maybe ig [16:35:29] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> yeah [16:36:18] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> also can autoconfirmed requirements be edited? [16:36:21] we already have like over 300 extensions [16:36:30] Special:ManageWiki/permissions [16:36:36] <_zaiden> lovely [16:38:35] <_zaiden, replying to rhinosf1> I guess a ton can be circumvented through a personal bot [16:38:43] <_zaiden> which would give you autoconfirmed manually [16:39:00] <_zaiden> no extension required or drastical changes needed [16:56:11] [1/2] so i used the portable infobox thing [16:56:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334567852975325204/Screenshot_1243.png?ex=679d00ab&is=679baf2b&hm=1e19c2f880bf0ab130233573cee1a7afc73914d34e334d63cf807c2fc5c5a65b& [16:56:14] how do i like [16:56:17] rename the labels and stuff [16:56:48] [1/2] well, now that use saved the template [16:56:49] [2/2] go to Tenplate: page, how you named it? [16:57:01] Template:Gun Infobox [16:57:30] click edit, you'll see the code as tags [16:57:48] lemme remember [16:58:25] [1/2] ? [16:58:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1334568412483162323/image.png?ex=679d0130&is=679bafb0&hm=dd3c4e732cfbb9ab94846e0ad816672010a90d9387c82941a19bdfbbf833dac2& [16:58:37] [1/2] yeah [16:58:37] [2/2] the labels are inside `