[00:24:32] hey [00:24:38] whats the best tag to talk to a uhh [00:24:46] a steward [00:39:22] Depends what it is for [00:39:45] We only ping them for serious issues. [00:39:54] Can you tell what it is about? [00:40:08] Privately? [00:51:27] [1/3] ๐Ÿ’ค [00:51:27] [2/3] ๐Ÿ›Œ๐Ÿป [00:51:28] [3/3] Time for bed! night night [00:51:42] its about my wiki [00:51:52] i need to ask if it can be uhh idk how to spell it in english [00:52:17] free from being deleted for the activity [00:52:23] Oh [00:52:25] theres a reason i want to ask for it [00:52:26] Exempt [00:52:30] yeah thats the word thanks [00:52:52] [[DP]] has the requirement [00:52:53] [00:53:04] Request on [[SR/M]] [00:53:05] [00:53:42] i feel it kind of meets "The wiki is made to be read by many but edited by few, where a lot of information is already on wiki and doesn't need to be actively edited." but it also depends on what you class as alot [00:53:51] as the people who need it tend to read on it alot [00:54:17] also ty [02:16:46] Any way to make a wiki page that lets you upload any image and then apply a second image with the "screen" photoshop filter effect on top of it? [02:29:20] This should actually be requested on restricted settings [03:01:03] The `(writeapi)` permission needs removing from all usergroups. Since it is hardcoded onto the `` usergroup whilst being blacklisted from all other usergroups, I can't remove the permission from the `` usergroup, myself. [03:07:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335446450523607103/remix-7c55e17f-6a08-4de9-a1ad-1b915d6ac1e1.png?ex=67a032ed&is=679ee16d&hm=633bdcb508877010abca98ab6e98952b9d9d2d41f816a5af86fbee55be26bee9& [03:07:47] hello, can i change my wiki name to a photo like this? [04:15:42] nothing happened [04:32:20] any cool people know on how i can make a wiki discord bot [04:32:27] because im starting to hate @Wiki-Bot [04:34:34] what about it [04:35:39] i cant have more than 2 webhooks of the bot sending recent changes [04:35:51] and the verification process for fandom is so _weird_ [04:36:04] ive had this idea for like a while [04:36:13] i just Dont know how i can execute [04:36:23] not wiki bots fault [04:36:35] Fandom just doesnโ€™t offer OAuth [04:36:45] oh [04:36:46] i see [04:36:53] https://tenor.com/sTFz.gif [04:36:58] What webhook do you mesn [04:37:02] in managewiki or [04:37:18] [1/2] this? [04:37:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335469068504928326/image.png?ex=67a047fd&is=679ef67d&hm=60674508d6f59f3aa3ad1038904cddf3452173643c10e1ead8232d09944ed59f& [04:37:49] why [04:37:59] Are those different wikis [04:38:02] yeah [04:38:12] what are you doing [04:38:13] why [04:38:14] not sure why both were created on the same day [04:38:14] why [04:38:16] why [04:38:18] Just [04:38:23] have two channels [04:38:30] i added one of them wayyy after the original one [04:38:33] yeah see [04:38:35] THATS THE problem [04:38:39] it isnt letting me [04:38:40] [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked) [04:38:57] [1/2] see this friendly innocent channel?????????????? [04:38:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335469481362854032/image.png?ex=67a04860&is=679ef6e0&hm=77ffdc47b390fe816c9860a60212fbba219c64350aa8b4b4a93d314f8ed4fb08& [04:38:58] Im too tired for this [04:39:06] Ask Markus [04:39:18] [1/2] WHERE IS IT [04:39:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335469574501433344/image.png?ex=67a04876&is=679ef6f6&hm=a442ad47232e49261e1e5d252ec99f3341156700a2f9589e68a5b153754e592c& [04:39:22] who [04:39:50] MarkusRoost, the bot maintainer [04:39:57] heโ€™s in this server [04:40:08] built-in Discord webhook superior [04:43:59] clearly [04:52:51] If you just want to see changes to the wiki, just use the `Discord Additional Incoming Webhook URLs ($wgDiscordAdditionalIncomingWebhookUrls)` field in `Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-notifications`, no need for a full bit for that [05:08:57] just use the rewrite one.... [05:22:03] damn [09:09:00] [1/3] any way to display text only within embed? i want the different versions to have corresponding text because you cant embed multiple images [09:09:01] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335537446762582066/image.png?ex=67a087ac&is=679f362c&hm=71c188e1e15719fe8b82f7cc7e6c5be0350b8bc0e5ec786e3d74892c44c08a13& [09:09:01] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335537447005589514/image.png?ex=67a087ac&is=679f362c&hm=c53679ea32864875ec3000d0b92b32629cba740351b0bd065de1efc8e4847d14& [09:13:16] WikiSEO can change descriptions for pages which I think would work [09:13:44] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [09:13:52] That's description property [09:16:04] there is also description2 extension which I think lets you do the same https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Description2 [09:17:04] be aware that sites like Discord can cache the embed for a link for some time, so the effect might take a while to show up [10:22:13] just a question, how do you find people who know how to code wikis like these and is interested in the wiki you are constructing [10:25:25] both in one package? luck [10:26:50] [1/2] the one, slightly less lucky if you're attempting to learn yourself but also learning from the veterans who've done it; the latter, you need to put yourself forward in the communities the wiki is for. If what you're offering is substantial and there isn't a fandom variation in the way doing the same thing you will probably make slow but steady progress. But in that case you will be t [10:26:50] [2/2] he guru people look to and will need to grow in the role [10:38:57] There's also the "are interested in the wiki topic, but don't know how to code wikis yet" people [10:39:58] [1/2] I find that this is quite common [10:39:58] [2/2] I started out like this on Fandom wikis [10:40:20] I didn't know one thing about coding [10:40:42] It took years to actually use the source editor [10:41:16] And now I run 2 wikis pretty much solo :p [11:04:46] I will come clean i dont mind if you guys delete my wiki recently my minecraft server i turned my "online mode" in the server.properties file to false so i made my server cracked idk if that is cracked but I play my server with a legit premium account so feel free to delete it but don't ban me [11:08:23] @Discord Administrators [11:08:32] why are you pinging discord admins [11:08:36] Nothing to do with them [11:08:45] But I'm confused what the issue even is here [11:09:15] I'm in that category rn [11:09:15] Do you have a wiki about the Minecraft server? [11:10:29] Yes [11:11:02] I don't think anybody cares if you have switched online-mode in server config to false, there is no Miraheze police to sweep in your wiki after you do that lol [11:11:03] And that server might know be cracked? [11:11:19] Yes [11:11:29] But [11:11:37] [1/2] Ah [11:11:37] [2/2] What is your wiki on? [11:11:40] I don't think that's going to be top of anyone's priority list [11:11:57] Cracking software is grey in many areas in terms of the law [11:12:13] But talking about a cracked Minecraft server isn't illegal [11:12:23] is it really cracking if it's official option in server configuration that just disables authentication with Mojang's server though [11:12:40] Because of this @rhinosf1 [11:12:42] Giving instructions on how to crack software and bypass a DRM would be illegal [11:13:05] Idk [11:13:14] It's official configuration though [11:13:18] That's not bypassing a DRM [11:13:19] The answer you are seeking is "no" [11:13:32] So u guys wont remove my server's wiki [11:13:56] I'd be concerned about links to less trustworthy places that have broken DRMs because free windows can often equal free malware [11:14:15] But talking about cracked software isn't illegal [11:14:17] I dont like malware [11:14:26] The only virus i like [11:14:27] Cracking software is grey enough [11:14:41] Is about a pranl virus in the past [11:15:36] But ye turning a Minecraft server to offline mode is fine [11:16:02] Because why i did that is not following Mojang's stupid guidelines [11:16:09] Only they EULA [11:16:17] Ye it's not illegal [11:16:30] If it's a config file you can access, that's not cracking software [11:17:03] You'd have to explicitly bypass a technical control for that to even come into play [11:17:04] i find it colourful actually [11:17:17] and there are multiple exceptions [11:17:21] Like coding [11:17:32] A game called Blackhawk Rescue Mission 5. It's basically the Roblox version of Rainbow Six Ghost Recon [11:18:35] There's already a wiki on it on the Fandom, but I want to improve on it while NOT supporting Fandom because they fired Dave [11:18:52] Who's Dave? [11:19:10] rip [11:19:15] Some guy in a company called GameSpot [11:19:35] Were about to ask which poor soul out of hundreds of different Fandom employees fired/let go across last few years is Dave [11:19:38] biggest question is are you forking or doing from scratch [11:20:00] plenty of people were fired in recent years indeed [11:20:03] They let go of people on yearly basis in big layoffs [11:20:22] Their GlassDoor reviews aren't too great for people working in community [11:20:29] Fandom are an unethical organisation [11:20:36] That are borderline anti competitive [11:20:39] No doubt about that [11:21:45] Fandom be buying out so many companies [11:21:53] He basically ran a series with Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of weapons throughout history, through this and it made GameSpot pretty popular [11:22:04] Scratch [11:22:08] Absolutely scratch [11:22:42] So Dave isn't "some guy" [11:23:01] I would really love the market regulators to tell them no [11:23:18] They are good museums [11:23:29] There is a royal armouries museum in both cities I've lived in [11:23:39] Although I've not been to the one in my current city yet [11:23:43] Well, they did try to buy Bulbapedia/Bulbagarden and they said "no" [11:23:45] Based [11:23:53] Source? [11:23:57] I really wanna go there someday [11:24:05] Which one [11:24:31] I read it somewhere years ago, I'll see if I can find it [11:25:38] I heard that too [11:27:06] The Minecraft wiki states something about it but that's all I've found so far [11:28:33] @rhinosf1 do you know the app Tlauncher [11:28:41] Where? [11:28:48] No [11:28:49] cracked mc? [11:28:54] That lets u play Minecraft Java Edition For free [11:29:02] Ok [11:29:21] That type players can play Minecraft server now [11:29:25] Aswell [11:29:29] okay [11:29:33] Page about Moving from Fandom [11:29:38] why are we talking about minecraft here lmao [11:29:42] Link [11:29:46] pls help me, I'm big newbie [11:29:54] wordmark [11:29:57] wgWordmark [11:29:58] @ghaztliousmoths you are utilising legitimate configuration, please move on [11:30:10] Wat [11:30:16] No you [11:30:21] how? [11:30:28] what the accidental ping [11:30:33] @giantesselsie [11:30:37] Special:ManageWiki/settings [11:30:39] I meant you [11:30:47] @ghaztliousmoths link to the page on Minecraft wiki [11:31:27] okay, next? [11:31:36] search wordmark [11:31:59] [1/2] Annoyingly I can't find any sources linked [11:31:59] [2/2] https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki:Moving_from_Fandom#:~:text=This%20is%20because%20Fandom%20has,forced%20to%20return%20to%20Fandom. [11:33:07] [1/2] which one next? [11:33:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335573714669928470/Screenshot_20250202-183226.png?ex=67a0a973&is=679f57f3&hm=239e331daf0de52d9946e04f05aeff7dc68824e1943e563db24ec1c459fe90da& [11:33:30] the first one [11:34:16] what do i need to do? [11:34:25] That says the offer was declined [11:34:34] That's very different to the market regulator saying no [11:34:49] Cc @justleafy2003 @theoneandonlylegroom [11:37:51] [1/2] Here it mentions acquisition [11:37:52] [2/2] https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Wiki_(Fandom)#:~:text=Throughout%20Pok%C3%A9mon%20Wiki's%20lifespan%2C%20the,Fandom%20to%20acquire%20Bulbapedia%20itself. [11:41:52] I didn't mean it like that really [11:42:01] I just confirmed it was a think [11:42:09] ofc bulbagarden remains independent [12:27:51] [[SR/RC]] [12:27:52] [13:14:10] The one with the guns [13:15:27] What location? [13:15:45] I've got a used bullet from the one in Leeds after a demonstration [13:20:52] you talk about that armory museum w/ sick grandpa? [13:50:58] idk the one with jonathan [13:52:46] He's based at the Leeds one [13:52:57] I've been there more times than I can count with grandma [13:53:08] They ain't changed their set of presentations in years [13:53:17] sheeesh [13:53:24] what do they usually demo? [13:53:33] All sorts [13:53:43] It goes on a rotation [13:53:56] but what is in the demonstrations? [13:54:21] They do everything from educational talks to gun fights to sword fights [13:54:41] gun fights?? [13:56:00] Ye [13:56:07] how do they even demo that [13:58:46] Very carefully [13:58:50] On the ground floor [13:59:49] I've only seen it once [15:19:32] but um @rhinosf1 sorry for the ping so my wiki is save but why did the admin says about connecting to a crack site because it is a serverlist for minecraft servers premium and cracked [15:21:41] bumping this if anyone has an answer? still cant seem to find it a:vanish: [15:33:49] Hatnote? [15:34:44] i think that? ill try searching with that keyword [15:35:06] God damn am I lagging or is miraheze being slow [15:35:17] its fine for me [15:35:23] I know I've been loading like 3 pages at the same time but damn [15:35:25] and yes its hatnote ty [15:35:44] Wikipedia loads just fine [15:36:39] hm [15:36:44] maybe try resetting cache [15:37:34] Isn't helping [15:38:39] What wiki [15:40:28] All [15:40:41] Or atleast dev.miraheze.org [15:42:52] Thatโ€™s very different from all [15:43:16] combatinitiation.miraheze.org and fanoninitiation.miraheze.org are both slow af [15:44:35] i found a weird bug involving a page on an nsfw wiki lol [15:45:17] : this is a diff of the latest revision (and two other ones) as of writing, and it appears to add two categories to the source [15:45:26] but if i go to edit, i can't find the categories added [15:45:38] but it's apparently still there? because at the bottom of the page, you can still see the categories [15:48:09] Maybe added in a template [15:48:32] the diff says that it's added to the page [15:48:41] and i linked to the latest revision as well [15:48:44] Ie on StoneworksMC wiki we have the nation character etc infoboxes add the respective categories because all our users are mediawiki illiterate [15:48:46] Hm [15:49:03] Since others wikis seem to be running okay for me I guess I just gotta wait [15:49:33] interestingly, there's a weird bug where if i do a section edit, it will add a trailing newline after it no matter what i do [15:49:41] kinda annoying, though i'm too lazy to debug that :p [16:11:41] Hello, I am still not seeing my logo for my wiki on the website besides the favicon. [16:20:03] which skin are you using? [16:21:54] Timeless [16:26:15] there's new separate logo setting for it, after mediawiki update, scroll down a bit the Styling setting [16:29:05] Ah alright, thank you! [16:40:18] NSFW wikis are allowed as long they have a warning, right? [16:41:18] i see [16:43:57] off-topic but is wiki-bot's pfp ai [16:44:51] Yes [16:45:12] I know it openly admits so somewhere [16:45:48] why use ai other than the duzens of image not made by ai [16:46:28] Ask Markus [16:48:27] who can i ask for the Content Policy [16:48:37] Just read it [16:48:39] so i know if it is allowed or not [16:48:45] You don't need to ask for it [16:49:57] [1/3] rhino can u tell me if this is allowed or not [16:49:57] [2/3] how do i add this thing to show the thing it suppose to show [16:49:58] [3/3] ```Best Cracked Minecraft Servers/a``` [16:50:06] it is a embed [16:50:13] for a serverlist [16:50:21] You were told already no [16:50:34] It's a safety & security risk [16:50:40] just want to make sure [16:50:41] And questionably legal [16:51:55] meaning [16:52:14] Donโ€™t do it [16:52:14] Exactly what it says [16:52:16] Very simple [16:52:22] :thumbsup: [16:52:27] okay [17:59:19] Question on the wiki is it possible to make a page where people can rate your server and comment [18:13:23] @rhinosf1 sorry to bother but where can i see the list of the updated skins [18:14:27] [1/2] i did click here blue link on this website but the github page doesnt exist [18:14:27] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Skins [18:16:26] Search for skins in https://github.com/miraheze/mediawiki-repos/blob/master/mediawiki-repos.yaml [18:16:41] But also please don't ping me unless I'm the only person who can answer [18:16:57] And is there pictures of the updated skins [18:23:25] @paladox can u help me [18:24:13] Stop randoming pinging people for supoort [18:24:54] sorry [18:25:01] i understand now [18:33:07] is there a preview button in the settings for styling before u apply for it u check if it is ideal for u [18:36:41] you can try `?useskin=`name of the skin in URL [18:37:00] like `...?useskin=timeless` [18:42:48] I need help moving a wiki from Fandom to Miraheze [18:47:06] [1/2] What specifically do you need help with? [18:47:06] [2/2] [[Moving a wiki to Miraheze]] may have an answer for you [18:47:06] [18:49:33] OK thanks [18:50:45] I had a wiki on Fandom, and we decided to move the Wiki to Miraheze, I was looking for a more automatic way to move it without having to do control c control v 100 times [18:50:58] But the link helps so thanks [18:55:22] If you have any other questions feel free to let us know ๐Ÿ™‚ [19:00:12] Thank you [19:05:15] (Now I feel weird for choosing the manual way ๐Ÿ˜†) [19:34:57] I've never imported and exported one page in my life ๐Ÿ˜„ [19:35:39] Always done it manually and just credit it with the permanent url from that version [19:36:34] He he yeah, for me it was mainly that I wanted to improve while doing the migration, takes time but man I love the improvements I did (many thx to you guys) [19:37:20] sorry if this is a dumb question but how do i make a user discussion page? also is there a database of all available templates [19:40:36] [[dev:Category:Templates]] [19:40:37] [19:40:56] Just start editing the Talk page [19:41:10] You can just create the page [[User talk:Example]{ [19:41:17] thank you [19:41:25] add a header for the subject, and sign with  [19:41:50] [1/3] ie ``` [19:41:50] [2/3] == Subject == [19:41:50] [3/3] Youโ€™re pretty cool! โ€”``` [19:42:05] the  turns into a timestamped signature [19:45:37] do not take templates from Wikipedia unless you know what are you doing [19:46:02] some Fandom wikis have simpler templates w/ same functionality [19:46:19] but the main hub on Miraheze is Dev Wiki [19:51:40] understood [19:52:27] If dev doesnโ€™t have something, feel free to ask in #developers-wiki [20:00:37] I'm taking a look at the interface and how do you make infoboxes? [20:00:56] It's the only thing so far that I've seen different from how it was in Fandom [20:01:06] [[Infoboxes]] is a good guide [20:01:06] [20:01:24] Thanks [20:01:51] Portable Infoboxes are probly the best bet for new admins [20:15:27] PortableInfobox is exactly the way how Fandom handles it, and Miraheze offers it as well [20:17:53] Strangely intuitive if you ask me [20:38:49] I never used PI. I find it rather confusing after 15 years working with `{| Tables | Rows and columns |}` ๐Ÿ˜„ [20:39:57] So war it is huh ? ๐Ÿ˜› [20:45:30] can you change the name of an uploaded file? [20:46:03] Yes, it's called moving ๐Ÿ™‚ [20:46:22] Ah, didn't realize you could move files as well [20:46:45] you can even move pages between namespaces [20:46:59] I mean if you ask it's technically just renaming but it's called move ๐Ÿ˜› [20:48:43] Only annoying part is having to change their instances on pages lol [20:49:02] luckily this file was newer and onyl had one use (guy who uploaded it didn't include the date it was taken in the name) [20:49:40] When I do a file name change I tend to check what links here just to be safe but yeah it can be a pain sometimes ๐Ÿ˜… [20:52:20] You can also tick the box to leave a redirect so you can worry about renaming the usages later [20:54:31] I tend to not leave any because I get confused after a while ๐Ÿ˜› [20:54:57] Like if could check for such redirects I would take down all of them on my wiki ๐Ÿ™ƒ [20:55:26] _do not rely on PortableInfoboxes, whilst the WMF has promised a patch for Parsoid it may never come and they may be removed in coming upgrades_ [20:57:19] tbf, for the most simple infobox, that may actually be easier, but if you want anything fancy it gets messy AF very quite, and gets far easier with PI then [20:57:44] (I'm not necessarily saying don't use them right now, but don't put your eggs in one basket and then come Parsoid if it isn't fixed and you have no idea how to make a regular infobox you will be fucked) [20:59:49] If so, infobox creation is fucked, gonna at least need some LUA based infobox templates then to make it any feasible to do anything but the most basic one. wikitext tables, gets messy even with something as simple as have fields not shown, if not value [21:00:58] redirects do work, and automated tools exist [21:01:15] sorry coach, that ship sailed 8 years ago [21:01:22] If PI can't be used, at least there should be a decent replacement [21:01:51] Only locally, not if you host an image on Commons [21:01:51] You can slap an {{#if}} parser func in there [21:01:54] One way or another i don't think not having PI is an option [21:06:27] @originalauthority fixed all our problems [21:06:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335718010203410533/TdzWJSf.png?ex=67a12fd6&is=679fde56&hm=fdfb6c1ef8250e27267e14813e2f57790b7ed4ebac10ed5350bdc78c22931728& [21:06:43] Isnt it PortableInfoboxez [21:07:02] I mean our hand might be forced [21:07:18] shut up let us have this [21:07:19] I'm not saying I don't think it's a terrible idea [21:07:45] But it might be the one the hand the wmf play [21:08:09] At the VERY least a replacement has to be the exact saem syntax [21:08:10] I assume either way Fandom will patch core to fix it but heh [21:08:19] drag and drop [21:08:21] It wouldn't be because the syntax is the whole issue [21:08:26] Haha! [21:08:33] Tags like <> are the problem [21:08:47] The WMF suggested switching to {{#infobox}} might work [21:08:48] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF [21:09:51] Parsoid is a huge change tbh [21:10:16] And one that's been prepared for since well VE [21:10:33] It's also not one we'll be forcing any time soon [21:10:45] A huge change, but is it possible to main PI after that, or is there any easy replacement then? [21:10:54] *maintain [21:10:57] So there is a bit of time before we need to panic [21:11:07] No and no as it stands [21:11:15] ๐Ÿ’€ [21:11:17] Just learn Wiki-code ๐Ÿ˜„ [21:11:35] I have to your username summarize the situation.. [21:11:38] But in true fashion I'm sure we'll end up with a half baked unmarried solution just in time [21:12:00] Well maybe a version late [21:12:05] But it's the WMF [21:12:08] lol [21:12:33] Just look at CentralAuth or CheckUser [21:12:43] Or actually the entire authentication stack in general [21:13:16] Or Flow [21:16:09] Or deployment-prep [21:16:33] Just ask @theresnotime about the that [21:16:49] Well, for simple infoboxes HTML tables is a choice [21:19:24] so there's a wiki I'm editing because I don't want it deleted, the thing is I don't know any of the other editors of the wiki or if they're active, should I just continue on editing by myself? [21:19:28] Intersing enough, ChatGPT was able to convert my old inline infoboxes to a new format using CSS classes [21:21:46] If you want to know if a wiki is still active, use Special:RecentChanges and check for 30d range to see if there are any editors [21:22:13] Without proper pausing and no one is editing (aside from spammers), the wiki is inactive [21:23:24] You can continue editing an inactive wiki if you like [21:27:25] it's been inactive for 45 days, so I'm the only one making updates, but I'm worried that my updates counts as spamming now [21:32:51] I think editing it each 30 days or so to keep it from deletion is fine [21:34:27] ^This is how I maintain a wiki from being deleted while on vacation [22:05:45] how can I have my wiki transferred to another suer [22:07:02] theres no such thing as owners, you can grant another user the crat right at Special:userRights and demote yourself [22:08:47] oh im sorry for being inknowledgable i just wanted to get this thing off my hands and another person was willing to take it [22:08:47] [1/2] what do I put here to import the wiki? [22:08:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335733684866912408/image.png?ex=67a13e6f&is=679fecef&hm=dd2be6d62622ca641564ade01a74fa2aa038bcea5773e7a6547e2da1a48af625& [22:10:27] oh no worries, we all start learning somewhere [22:11:06] fandom of you are importing from there, I believe [22:11:17] if its from fandom [22:11:18] the interwiki prefix is just a key you want to use to refer to the wiki you are importing pages from, this prefix can also be used to create links to the old wiki [22:11:26] ok thanks [22:11:28] fandom:subdomain [22:11:40] ie [[fandom:stoneworksmc]] [22:11:41] [22:14:27] [1/2] huh [22:14:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335735112134033558/image.png?ex=67a13fc3&is=679fee43&hm=2084cbb6e096eed14df33558759f4cd0f8067e16f3552e1395434733570c91db& [22:14:49] [1/2] actually i might stay with the wiki [22:14:49] [2/2] is there an api for editing so i can add parsed data from the game? [22:15:08] Yup [22:15:14] thanks [22:15:19] ill stop asking questions and rtfm [22:15:45] are you uploading a .xml or a .7z [22:15:55] No worries haha, thats what this place is here for [22:16:05] because it has to be a .xml [22:16:14] ok now its working, yes the problem was that it was on 7z not xml [22:16:21] Depending on what language you may be better off using pywikibot or another library, or mwbot-rs etc [22:16:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335735590166986864/image.png?ex=67a14035&is=679feeb5&hm=956af52e77aabcf59f45ac75cad2165bd221182f0f3617d4a77671499f3df2db& [22:17:00] c# because we have libraries for parsing the games files already in that [22:17:08] :EpicFaceMH: [22:17:18] hi [22:17:35] hi [22:17:40] so how come we're here [22:17:43] [1/2] nvm [22:17:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335735931151454321/image.png?ex=67a14086&is=679fef06&hm=ad393d0390bd7abf226c369bdc7a8dec7926d0bd15cca99b493405ad2cd0afe0& [22:18:10] yello [22:18:17] Ooooooo [22:18:31] @originalauthority you use c# right [22:18:43] do you know if thereโ€™s any api wrappers written in it [22:18:57] i got invited here cuz im contributing on a wiki with another member [22:19:03] thats me [22:19:11] no its not [22:19:12] jk [22:19:17] https://github.com/svick/LINQ-to-Wiki [22:19:32] Although its ancient (~1.19 iirc [22:20:23] oh damn i cant send github links [22:20:31] Maybe https://dotnetwikibot.sourceforge.net/ also? [22:20:56] Yeah its an anti spam thing [22:21:06] you need to #verify to send links [22:21:16] https://github.com/PhoenixARC/-OMI-Filetype-Library [22:21:21] this is the library we use [22:21:23] Has it been uodate since..? [22:21:28] its used in all the modding tools as well [22:21:33] Nah [22:21:34] oh yeah [22:21:37] Why do you ask though? [22:21:42] oh fuck nah that shit is cooked then [22:21:42] its for Minecraft: Legacy Console Edition [22:21:50] I'm thinking about writing one though [22:22:18] Did you take a sudden liking to C#? [22:22:51] Iโ€™ll move to Scots before I use C# [22:23:08] ^ [22:23:14] Oh [22:23:53] It wouldnt be too hard to create one i guess [22:27:34] [1/2] I tried some times, changed the wiki link from the original wiki to the new one cuz I was running out of solutions and it keeps not working, is there anything wrong here? [22:27:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335738412233134252/image.png?ex=67a142d6&is=679ff156&hm=2f0426191a7ea28e4ad1004bc91d035a3b6dbe327da42caa9663aa103776e4bc& [22:27:52] and the file size is below 2 MB [22:33:37] that interwiki prefix is incorrect [22:33:47] it should be mh:thedougunofficialwiki [22:34:12] and if the backup is too big then the web server will kill the connection thinking that it got stuck [22:34:25] its less then the 2MB [22:34:29] thanks [22:35:16] anything over 10-20kb is a gamble [22:37:00] its 200kb [22:37:06] it also crashed again [22:38:29] you're importing from a fandom wiki, correct? [22:38:39] yup [22:40:04] well yes but in this case since its from a fandom wiki it would use fandoms prefix [22:40:14] since it points to where the dump came from [22:40:25] So fandom:subdomain [22:43:11] nope still failing [22:43:59] Anyone have any specific advice when it comes to dealing with an old Fandom Wiki? Just moved here from Fandom, and we want to of course have the SEO dominance, so we want to discreetly take apart the old Fandom one. Some members are worried Fandom may still catch on despite spreading it across weeks, different uses, valid reasons according to our rules, and so forth. [22:44:38] Or actually, is there anywhere here where that has already been discussed? [22:44:42] there's not a lot you can do there and vandalizing/sabotaging isn't it really [22:44:46] is parserfunctions anf scribunto installed in miraheze by default? [22:44:56] Advertize indie wiki buddy extension and apply to be on it's redirect list, try to replace any links to the old wiki you can [22:45:00] a) fandom will indeed catch on and b) sabotaging the old wiki reflects poorly on the migrating project [22:45:03] ask them to delete it, if that doesnt work put NSFW to force Fandom to delete the wiki [22:45:07] there are ways to help with SEO [22:45:19] 'put nsfw' will be deleted and screw the posting account's global standing, bad idea [22:45:50] improve your own seo, network with alternatives as suggested by pix, and it wouldn't hurt to ask for the old wiki's removal [22:46:06] yeah, vandalism can actually help keep seo by editing activity sometimes [22:46:09] or delete everything except for the main page saying you moved to a new wiki [22:46:20] Search Consoele is good [22:46:23] this is vandalism and will get you blocked/locked/reverted [22:46:31] once again, not a good idea [22:46:33] https://getindie.wiki [22:46:36] use this!!!! [22:46:46] if it is for a property of decent size/and or gets a fair amount of traffic, the chances fandom is actually going to cooperate with shutdown isn't high [22:47:08] yeah fandom aint fools, they will disable your account go about their day and [22:47:19] and in that same case they also take some steps to grip onto dead wikis even if the actual editing community is completely gone [22:47:38] encouragin all editors to not edit fandom at all is good [22:47:55] let it get naturally more outdated and worse [22:48:06] bring your A game, spread the word, IWB, those are the reasonable options on the table [22:48:32] SEO [22:48:44] Thank you guys for the advice. [22:48:58] theres also an extension for it [22:48:58] some folks here have had lcuk in the fight [22:51:22] [1/2] it keeps failing so im going to request import, maybe size is the problem even if its not 2MB, what do I put here [22:51:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335744399447035965/image.png?ex=67a14869&is=679ff6e9&hm=436cc5d6db70211ff05430f4dd5b6d8a85e86f10ab7c01c83346ed2e65d0bd8a& [22:51:41] course [22:52:00] database name i s`wiki` [22:52:10] so foobar.miraheze.org is `foobarwiki` [22:52:55] so thedougunofficialwiki.miraheze.org would be thedougunofficialwikiwiki? [22:53:01] (alternatively visit Special:ManageWiki/core for database name) [22:53:43] ok done [22:56:13] [1/2] Also, does anyone know how to get permissions to edit CSS pages? I'm a Bureaucrat. [22:56:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335745622740832377/image.png?ex=67a1498d&is=679ff80d&hm=558d07ad703bbf0ed9ac127bce586f64bbeb125f3bb85b9bc7da4af711fa0cf0& [22:58:13] Interface admin or sysop group [23:04:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1335747815803981945/Screenshot_2025-02-02-00-11-30-82_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=67a14b98&is=679ffa18&hm=8c396a6ebd029c0e0b56cdcaf2a8d15f8513473c1051c4629f8d6ce0979c733c& [23:52:51] [1/2] Sabotaging does a bit [23:52:51] [2/2] But the better solution is make sure the new wiki is better than the old one [23:53:49] How to make a wiki get above Fandom are discussed here a lot.