[00:00:50] May you elaborate on this? [00:02:05] @mooncloud is the bloke to ask [00:02:25] I was just about to comment on the deepseek thing from a bit ago [00:02:36] Hello hello [00:02:45] Hello. [00:02:56] You were inquiring about the alliance? [00:03:04] Yes, I'm quite curious about that. [00:04:09] Well we’ve been brainstorming and getting together stuff for an independent Roblox wiki alliance that should be officially launching some time soon [00:04:46] We as in me and a few other wiki people from independent Roblox wikis [00:04:47] :3 [00:05:47] So a group of independent Roblox wikis are creating a Roblox Wiki on Miraheze is what you are saying? [00:07:11] No [00:07:16] We’re forming a wiki alliance [00:07:22] For what purpose? [00:07:24] Similar to https://niwanetwork.org/ [00:07:31] Community [00:07:35] Idk [00:07:41] The usual benefits of an alliance [00:07:45] It’s good to have a central figure [00:08:07] Oh, that's pretty interesting. [00:08:14] We all wanna collaborate and promote eachother [00:08:19] :3 [00:08:27] And help out upcoming and newer projectd [00:08:44] moon just wants to have a fun badge [00:08:48] Fandom’s been pretty notoriously the Roblox wiki place for quite a while [00:09:02] And in recent times we’ve seen a lot more independent projects being self hosted or hosted on miraheze [00:09:30] So we wanna get together to help out newer projects who wanna start out independent or move away from fandom [00:09:38] Hm. [00:10:12] We can boost traffic between member wikis while helping eachother out and serving as a goal for newer projects to aspire to [00:10:23] :3 [00:11:13] We already do have a non-alliance discord for admins and bureaucrats of independent Roblox wiki projects that I created a little while ago [00:11:33] As a little networking and support thingy [00:11:54] Very intriguing. [00:12:09] If I may ask, are you part of an independent Roblox wiki project? [00:12:13] Yes. [00:12:16] Or are you just curious [00:12:18] Ooo [00:12:18] Which one [00:12:24] The Myth Community Wiki [00:12:45] I haven’t seen that one around [00:12:46] Link? [00:13:37] We are in the process of moving to Miraheze from Fandom, but we've ran into trouble with designing the place with CSS. So our Miraheze Wiki is not set up at all. [00:14:08] Okay, well I can't link the Fandom one. [00:14:13] That’s alrighty [00:14:21] Moon [00:15:06] Links are blocked if you aint #verify ed [00:15:10] Ah [00:15:12] for anti spam [00:15:22] What do you say about giving stackd more CSS work to do 😈 [00:15:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336490390382972969/image.png?ex=67a3ff2b&is=67a2adab&hm=e5108b76c97c9c6e83001c68360401183c71cc4da49fa15e8364cdcdfec31f6e& [00:15:46] Sorry that you may have to type it out. [00:15:57] You could also just search of roblox myth community and it should come up. [00:16:00] AI for vector styling would be nice [00:16:56] oh god [00:17:24] Found the miraheze one [00:18:15] Well, that is waiting on an image transfer and for us to figure out CSS so there may not be much pretty there. [00:19:21] But therefore, we do need assistance in terms of that so I find the alliance intriguing, and I'm sure the rest of the community members would. [00:20:06] I’d love to invite you and the other bureaucrats to our Wiki Server [00:20:29] I’ll shoot you an invite in DMs [00:20:34] 👍 [00:23:03] Sent [01:16:36] <_artisticality> Awesome [01:25:01] hey just got a question about customizing the css for vector 2022. is there a place that just has the template for it, with all the proper div tags? none of the tutorials seem to link it, and there's only generic links to basic css, which i do know already. [01:49:11] looped gifs makes my brain go `yes` [01:50:51] [1/2] does anyone know what this svg of my wiki's logo [01:50:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336514343789002761/image.png?ex=67a4157a&is=67a2c3fa&hm=ac41f85c2bde3c9c76b144306c7962a31c7bee491164eab8b9f7581a5a3e9f8f& [01:50:58] decides to turn into a graphic from half life 1 [02:01:52] Don’t believe so that I can think of, referring to existing wikis is probably best [02:27:49] [1/2] would it then be possible to do this, except instead of a link to another website, it looks for a file on the wiki named whatever the editor put? ex. {{Player|AphoticGoblin}} would look for a file claled AphoticGoblin.png and put it there [02:27:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336523645635268670/image.png?ex=67a41e24&is=67a2cca4&hm=6b0c2ac64d2a3e6eb4815dad8d2eea6a5f03c51e6d4d190e3fbd04b3765e1a7b& [02:31:52] hmmmmmmmmmmm did you enable the setting to allow external images to be embedded [02:32:16] that's a thing? [02:32:21] i thoguht it was possible? [02:32:58] Special:ManageWiki/settings [02:33:02] pretty sure if you enable it... [02:33:04] it'll work... [02:33:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336524999246483486/image.png?ex=67a41f67&is=67a2cde7&hm=fe7669f3d42965ee1e90c3893e2903a7b44b75c7052abc84794d610034fa6f20& [03:21:47] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336537228310220881/image.png?ex=67a42aca&is=67a2d94a&hm=436f07d4c53eaecc60a5357cada4eb2933a373dd1a1bad7cfcac88f9b8d5494e& [03:21:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336537228536709152/image.png?ex=67a42aca&is=67a2d94a&hm=3f25b9c36c7bbf80e76f98f950a732f450be98a1c78592e4fd5b37c76b11e8b2& [03:22:02] ok nvm.. [03:25:48] It's because your example usage of the template isn't placed within the tags, causing the template to call itself [03:27:29] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336538663902904450/image.png?ex=67a42c21&is=67a2daa1&hm=164c8b3c0454db25367a40b9f287e4c9e451333088be72abaff047741c8ee803& [03:27:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336538664406224996/image.png?ex=67a42c21&is=67a2daa1&hm=0b2e3f7d269aa1f87e45847398cd868022c8a650471fc3048876f389f06439b4& [03:57:02] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp37 [03:57:02] [2/2] Others too? [03:57:52] same but with 36 [03:57:53] yes [03:57:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336546323696062556/image.png?ex=67a43343&is=67a2e1c3&hm=9827e19f439b8e01e5277c0c6890679898794b585cf1ac4637988ddc096865b5& [03:58:16] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp36 at Wed, 05 Feb 2025 03:57:33 GMT [03:58:17] [2/2] Varnish XID 4391118 [03:58:41] yep [03:58:53] yup [03:59:01] Yep [03:59:04] Reporting it upstream [03:59:11] I thought I got banned for a second lol [04:01:05] Seems like I'm not the only one who got error 503 [04:01:17] Nope. [04:01:44] You wouldn’t believe what I’m about to say [04:01:47] :clueless: [04:02:52] howcome all of miraheze is dow [04:03:00] Either Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp37 or Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp36 [04:03:17] No idea [04:03:30] Notified others [04:03:39] k thanks [04:03:41] Let me take a look [04:03:59] See #tech [04:04:22] looks to be back? [04:05:18] Yes! [04:05:54] <.imamy.> I can't even get into phorge [04:06:04] Refresh? [04:06:15] whats up with fisch wiki? [04:06:32] Just refresh [04:08:36] i did [04:09:01] If the error you're getting says db181 is erroring, its a known issue. Otherwise refresh and you should be good [04:09:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336549119098884127/image.png?ex=67a435dd&is=67a2e45d&hm=54c25a1d682b9fa35d35464d880dca29d1e4735dcf37c5b8f95378b53bf19526& [04:09:35] Known issue, paging tech to restart [04:09:44] Apologies for the inconvenience [04:10:07] No problem [04:11:57] <.imamy., replying to .imamy.> looks like my sites are up and I can get into phorge [04:12:34] <.imamy.> how do i know which db my sites are on? [04:12:55] It should be in ManageWiki [04:13:03] <.imamy.> ah thank you [04:14:44] c4 is db181 i think [04:15:14] <.imamy.> or maybe i'm cursed. seems every time i decide to work on my own wikis the db shuts down [04:17:45] [1/3] yeah the timeless logo thing isnt working fuck this upgrade [04:17:45] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336551311172309072/image.png?ex=67a437e8&is=67a2e668&hm=9f8402623f09017d6d72d37b8fe629ff09913addec4348170bee31a76713b96e& [04:17:45] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336551311465779332/image.png?ex=67a437e8&is=67a2e668&hm=0bce96dc719577fa32bf7257fa5854c2c747aef034c9d7503a66a30049fccf5f& [04:20:36] Instead of the full URL, only add the "Filename.ext" [04:20:44] oh [04:21:04] It says so under the field 😉 [04:21:31] i didnt notice it sorry [04:21:49] No worries. It changed after the upgrade [04:22:04] you are not the only one [04:22:17] [1/2] Spanish Mario Wiki got an unscheduled maintenance. [04:22:17] [2/2] https://marioes.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:22:35] Idk what I can do [04:22:53] Just hang in there. They are aware [04:22:53] the page offers valuable advice [04:23:03] “Please try again later” [04:23:14] it’ll be back soon™️ [04:23:27] lol [04:23:28] its actually a server issue [04:23:33] [1/2] wasnt expecting it to be so small [04:23:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336552773944082482/image.png?ex=67a43945&is=67a2e7c5&hm=34e53508596d8590bd62025010e4a39e1378169735b106b421b19c495acac2f5& [04:23:38] [1/2] hmmm i think this is the main problem [04:23:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336552795947536526/image.png?ex=67a4394a&is=67a2e7ca&hm=26b6407621c439c12f1b6248893207a0f435d22a51e52a319719c2d0f38ccec4& [04:23:43] I wanted to make some edits there :ThinkerMH: [04:23:50] im going to take it that its not jsut my wiki offline [04:24:22] Back in a sec [04:24:26] alrighty [04:25:04] its not [04:25:15] [1/2] im afraid to remove it cuz itll probably wreck other themes like this one [04:25:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336553198487601202/image.png?ex=67a439aa&is=67a2e82a&hm=5a88bb8a658d3cb4f5b855d6059f691513b08f24dfdc2be0ce1f85c99b580ed0& [04:26:11] should be back [04:26:24] I’m gonna see [04:26:25] yep it is [04:26:37] nvm [04:26:38] gone again [04:26:54] Still failing [04:26:55] https://marioes.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:27:23] May take a bit for mariaDB to wake up and connect again [04:27:38] fair [04:27:44] I’m not seeing any issues [04:27:48] it is fixed now [04:27:56] ITS WORKING [04:27:56] [1/2] im still getting this personally [04:27:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336553876551106591/image.png?ex=67a43a4c&is=67a2e8cc&hm=968540bf15b2c98a86b9af1dd357ea787258e9b6ff427393b0b4b2bda12c17af& [04:28:02] @yegoryulin #verify for links btw [04:28:11] yay its back [04:28:12] that shouldn’t be possible [04:28:14] try purging your cache [04:28:23] I’m going to the Super mario Wiki Server [04:28:24] alrighty one moment [04:28:28] 500 errors shouldn’t be cached [04:28:31] Yes! Nice and quick as it should be [04:28:31] There I have the stuff I need [04:28:32] or visit a random page [04:28:41] same error [04:28:46] tr [04:28:49] it might just be my pc [04:28:53] what wiki is this [04:29:01] https://www.stret.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:29:12] works for me [04:29:17] hm [04:29:19] must be my pc [04:29:31] works for discord as well [04:29:41] Wow the footer icons dont look great on citizen dark [04:29:59] okay yea its back for me now [04:30:33] [1/2] the amount of excitement i had bro 💀 [04:30:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336554532913680424/Screenshot_2025-02-04_213004.png?ex=67a43ae8&is=67a2e968&hm=2f54a0956a353503de3ba5a67f4498f3808ff7c2e549ef67a898837061ba173e& [04:35:23] LOL [04:35:56] Pfffft [04:36:05] yeah thats the no value default [04:36:13] It basically means: "Well done. You posted your request, we'll look at it as soon as possible" [04:36:20] rather misleading then [04:37:42] Yup! [04:38:53] Should be called : "Waiting for review" [04:40:27] Better wording: Pending [04:42:41] Indeed [04:42:49] Go ahead and change it [04:43:31] Bump [04:44:57] Discuss on meta a bit first [04:45:04] I sleep [04:45:06] i see this tmr [04:59:54] Enqueued [05:00:10] Immersed in waititude [05:01:22] Widely used template, not a thing we should change arbitrarily. [05:04:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard#In_progress_%E2%96%B7_Pending [05:05:39] Don't think it needs a communitywide discussion either [05:06:49] such a minor change would fall under WP:BOLD [05:07:03] but a larger change for sure would need at least some minor discussion on Discord [05:30:56] [1/2] 💤 [05:30:56] [2/2] 🛌🏻 🛏️ [06:02:19] anyone got any idea what's going on? I turned on external images in settings [06:02:30] [1/2] It seems small, but we do have a number of templates/dashboards that evaluate based on status text, e.g. counting 'in progress' [06:02:31] [2/2] So there'd be some downstream breaking on rename we'd need to chase down [06:08:28] https://mc-heads.net/head/AphoticGoblin/16.png even if I use the link directly it still winds up with a broken iamge [06:10:20] because Miraheze doesn't allow embed from other websites w/o security review/whitelist [06:10:37] you'll have to upload images on wiki [06:10:40] but I enabled external images https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages [06:10:56] isnt this very setting what im looking for? [06:11:05] what else would it do but allow embed from other websites [06:11:06] idk how this one works, I know there'supload of external images [06:11:47] it's still not advisable [06:11:51] [1/2] this is the exact function i need [06:11:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336580029995290689/image.png?ex=67a452a7&is=67a30127&hm=a5d0454a5b11195f029cbdbafa38ddcff692cdb56a557f9f02dda43d364da003& [06:11:56] I'm leaving this now [07:09:04] Here's something better: "not rn bruv" [07:15:32] oh hello ashley long time no see [07:17:26] was the mediawiki and miraheze icons swapped in the footer [07:17:38] it used to be mh, mw, then cc [07:17:43] now its mw, mh and cc [07:27:03] This setting only works for hosts that are listed in the Content Security Policy (CSP) [07:27:50] CSP? [07:28:10] Content Security Policy as @abaddriverlol [07:28:28] The domain the image is on will have to be approved by us first before it'll work [07:29:15] how do I submit a domain for approval? [07:31:58] Open a task on issue tracker [07:33:19] The policy is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:CSP_Policy [07:50:30] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/ im on the issue tracker but cant find how to open a task [07:51:03] Click maniphest [07:51:16] then that should give you a drop down [07:55:35] I was wondering if you could move a normal page to a category page [07:56:38] Ye [08:18:57] What do i do if theres a wiki that hasnt been changed from the default wiki creation thing for 6 weeks and i want to make a wiki about the same topic [08:26:23] Edit the existing wiki? [08:26:34] Though [08:26:47] That does mean that you're not an admin [08:26:56] Yeah [08:28:28] What's the topic? [08:29:21] Roblox game [08:31:51] Ahh [08:31:58] It also gives me a permission error when i try going to any other page [08:34:19] So that wiki is also private? [08:34:37] I dont know [08:34:39] Probably [08:34:53] It lets me view the main page but nothing else [08:41:55] <_arawynn> That sounds very much like a private wiki [08:43:19] What do i do then [08:44:01] <_arawynn> I'd suggest try to contact the bureaucrat [08:44:13] I have [08:44:17] Ill probably wait for a response [10:02:58] whats the game [10:07:09] [1/2] check out this logo i made for my wiki [10:07:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336639241886765096/FfDpsvu.png?ex=67a489cc&is=67a3384c&hm=f4d228f1eb59f030c1280bf6ffde3f26b5e40e90797b4d365211b8b8e35d0bfe& [10:07:46] jtoh ? [10:07:57] Lmao it got renamed today [10:08:04] Eternal Towers of Hell [10:08:05] Too screaming for my liking, but impressive none-the-less [10:08:15] We're thinking of moving to Miraheze soon [10:08:19] dang [10:08:41] have u made a request [10:08:47] I do like the "Wiki" part though [10:08:49] [1/2] I've got a slightly less screamy variant here [10:08:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336639661593854022/gg0jNBj.png?ex=67a48a30&is=67a338b0&hm=ad9384a745f58dd2958eeaba9b36060193fdc71f5be7546af8b4a2b8e3d688f8& [10:09:01] So basically it's a little weird [10:09:12] A non staff member made the request and made the wiki at jtoh.miraheze.com [10:09:27] But that's fine because it's literally not the name anymore [10:09:31] we'd take etoh.miraheze.com [10:09:43] now we're just figuring out how to go about compiling the thousands of files we have [10:11:02] [1/2] also thinking about this variant [10:11:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336640215934173217/3sY5fzy.png?ex=67a48ab5&is=67a33935&hm=1691b2141958c35d1a19e5dd413f78bd7253810a26f61dd642f6dacb99d9f9cb& [10:12:59] If you remove all the top part, and keep "wiki" I would love it! 😉 [10:13:53] Then please upload that to [[commons:]] so others can use that too 🙂 [10:13:53] [10:14:54] But hey... understand... I am an old man that loves to sit in a stuffy old library. [10:15:19] So don't take it personally @unorthodoxical [10:16:21] textextracts is so weird [10:16:26] i don't know what im doing wrong [10:16:37] it keeps appearing as a dot in page info [10:16:56] [10:20:22] Why did Juke's Tower of Hell get renamed to [10:20:24] ETOH [10:20:28] Wtf. [10:20:32] Cool logo nice [10:20:33] basically juke was Not a very good owner [10:20:42] Damn bruh 😭 [10:20:49] What happened :(( [10:20:56] stole about 28.5 million robux from her devs in one year alone [10:21:04] WHAT [10:21:07] yeah [10:21:10] huge huge huge incident [10:21:29] over the course of 6 years of her ownership no one knows how much she really took [10:21:45] so she stepped down recently and the new owners (dual ownership) renamed it to Eternal Towers of Hell [10:31:31] <0phiuchus.> :heresy3: [10:31:46] <0phiuchus.> I always learn something fun when I come in here. [10:49:00] fascinating [10:49:11] anyway [10:49:28] I assume you already got xml and file dump? [10:50:23] not quite yet [10:50:34] everything is a little chaotic what with the new tower change and constantly updating things [10:50:46] hard to get a break [10:50:56] so the focus on fandom still yet [12:54:42] hi. I want to move my wiki from fandom to miraheze. But i want to know if the images, templates, and modules can be preserved here? I've tried moving here but it just lacked pretty much all of them [12:56:55] [1/3] templates and modules are part of xml (textual) dump of the wiki, images go into separate file dump [12:56:56] [2/3] Fandom offers only xml dump, and as for recent there's suspicion that they compromise them too [12:56:56] [3/3] a bot here can make both xml and file dumps for you [12:57:02] however [12:57:10] I forgot for a moment [12:58:06] so the database dump in fandom already included templates and modules? [12:58:13] [1/2] some js scripts and modules on Fandom aren't present on wikis, they are part of Dev Wiki and would require manual import [12:58:13] [2/2] in most cases it's fine, I did myself [12:58:30] templates are in xml always yeah [12:59:19] how abt the images? mine have more than 3,000 of them so would it take long? [13:00:38] [1/2] depends on file size but file dump creation shouldn't take long [13:00:38] [2/2] @pixldev can run the thing [13:01:14] [[Moving a wiki to Miraheze]] [13:01:14] [13:01:21] ah, works [13:01:54] Other volunteers have access too btw just no one uses it [13:02:26] Right. I used to try moving to miraheze but its like half-imported and now i want to try again [13:12:33] I am about to request an undeletion in my wiki. However if I import the new xml file will it overwrite on the old wiki? [13:16:44] how do i get this to appear [13:18:02] sorry? [13:23:07] is there anyone to help? [13:25:30] Usually yes, but you need to wait a little. I think imports work by importing revisions to page history, so I guess it wouldn't "overwrite" the wiki more than maybe mess it up a little with bad page history but I've never imported a wiki over existing content [13:26:10] But maybe wait for someone with more experience to tell [13:27:39] So can I open another wiki for that? [13:41:59] what are items in wikibase [13:43:02] can you explain what is that? [13:49:32] i'm confused too 😭 [14:20:29] well, I forgot Meta is so advanced now with new-fangled technology you younglings use [14:22:42] very good point that will need to be wrangled before implementing; I do like the change [14:23:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1336703802392182905/image0.jpg?ex=67a4c5ed&is=67a3746d&hm=a74ff543090eb53e5169a1d99b8aaa6a183cfb6a80e1fb24c84cc7eb167e3403& [14:31:29] very straightforward [14:32:14] 😭 [15:19:26] Thanks for the explanation. Just thought those two links might have contributed to the discussion. Not sure if you saw those links. [15:20:43] . [15:23:48] bro doesnt have the jtoh font on him [15:40:38] I did, since automod reports to moderators [15:52:39] OK then! I guess if AI wasn’t blocked we would be getting more 502s/503s! [15:52:42] Yeah, not saying it can't be done, just that we'll need to try to identify/catch it all in one fell swoop [15:53:05] 100%, the AI scrapers have pretty uniformly been VERY aggressive.