[01:34:01] Wsp [02:26:38] is there a way to make the wiki color black with timeless and citizen enabled? [02:26:53] without using the dark mode extension thing [02:29:29] CSS [02:29:43] cries [02:30:02] so i'll have to manually make everything black [02:34:03] Not exactly [02:34:14] Im not the best person to explain though [02:34:18] oi @snowstacked [02:35:49] you can try explaining your way [02:35:58] perhaps i'll understand [02:45:18] Hexagons of power, scattered across the wikiverse [02:45:50] I smell prime fan fic potential here, someone call labster [02:50:28] what wikis are they all in [02:53:19] do citizen and timeless even work together [03:03:15] timeless and citizen? [03:03:37] ive never heard of a wiki using 2 types of skins at once [03:04:38] go into inspect element and find the element you want to color [03:04:57] is there a way to make a "double anchor"? like say you wanna link to a section that's within a tabber, [[Pagename#Tabber Section#Section]]? [03:04:58] [03:07:17] I can guarantee one is probably nestled in a subpage of allthetropes, one of the oldest Miraheze wikis (this is a goof based on the infinity stones from avengers plus a good side helping of Zelda and other fantasy/scifi, not a real thing) [03:22:22] what [05:00:17] So do some fonts just not take to Mirahaze even if you upload them yourself? [05:24:23] [1/5] oh my god its even weirder here [05:24:23] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343453448540131418/image.png?ex=67bd5406&is=67bc0286&hm=ff75de9af34150de17ec14d5bdf507f2c651183af01c61f8d2259410b2e1a37f& [05:24:23] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343453448800174130/image.png?ex=67bd5406&is=67bc0286&hm=8255d6a9fc02d3d0cbd620be3a256e50705004b88c348a417ef97808126c398f& [05:24:24] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343453449047769120/image.png?ex=67bd5406&is=67bc0286&hm=52efeb28f6450774b3ae9b00861cd74e07666529cf4e90a6fac7aad84a1ee18e& [05:24:24] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343453449345302620/image.png?ex=67bd5406&is=67bc0286&hm=b662a12c9f6aebf513a2b0600141f0c56cdacc188479e28b74815ced1738f35d& [05:24:50] forgot this was the main reason why i made the th miraheze wiki [05:24:53] the discussions tab [05:33:43] most likely something in the code not working, I had no issues w/ both imported and uploaded fonts [05:33:56] perhaps wrong class/id too [05:34:30] skins' layouts and elements set differ, just body doesn't always work [05:51:22] [1/3] well I edited the username.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css, I got the table elements working, I had one of the fonts working temporarily until I added the @font-face ... where I got a '@font-face declaration doesn't follow the fontspring bulletproof syntax' error which I was told to ignore, to no positive effect. I added a ttf version of the font as backup to my woff2 fro [05:51:22] [2/3] m another suggestion, but still no go. [05:51:22] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343460241508925470/image.png?ex=67bd5a59&is=67bc08d9&hm=6b201fbb98b89f8e181f10e30c5221eeca0d59a300cf6d46fd4506da3306d221& [06:03:37] does it work in browser's web tools? like in firefox after summoning element inspector, there's styles tab to manually add CSS, for example [06:12:06] I'm .... to amateur to figure that out šŸ˜“ [06:12:17] what i do [06:13:04] you should honestly start ignoring fandom and just move on [06:20:39] yeah ok [06:21:19] [1/2] how do i make this link white. [06:21:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343467778669154336/image.png?ex=67bd615e&is=67bc0fde&hm=c238d37302271ff4fdb42f59f3aad448c934f6c4f60300060d19b2365195fa34& [06:37:41] [1/2] Found this in the Element Inspector, not sure if that points to any clues [06:37:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343471899111460904/image.png?ex=67bd6535&is=67bc13b5&hm=0c2ba652fafc501c473704e15eaec5e16eae57d4625adfc0df39669fa115df2a& [06:37:59] [1/2] This one definitely sounds like it's related [06:38:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343471975817019513/image.png?ex=67bd6547&is=67bc13c7&hm=5d7accae2365a8864c85753c32584650ce079703d371bc508162b702133514bc& [06:47:54] oh man, I can't help w/ that when being on mobile [06:48:26] links are just `a`, sometimes might need `!important` [06:48:47] itll apply everywhere else i wanna use it exclusively into the button [06:49:14] `.classofthebitton a` [06:50:02] THANK GOD. [06:50:37] classes/id's are neat [07:26:59] [1/2] how can i make the portable infobox border be on top [07:26:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343484304910581770/image.png?ex=67bd70c3&is=67bc1f43&hm=2c589e2b1ebab67a160bacc0756992c31edf36594fbf35973105bc68ca34d39e& [07:27:35] image problem [07:27:37] hm [07:29:33] That error implies that the file is not a valid woff2 file. This can happen if you've just change the file extension without exporting it to the intended format. [07:35:47] make the infobox overflow:hidden [07:36:06] css? [07:37:59] Question y'all. What's the "no active login attempt for your session" error? [07:38:52] pesky error, try to clean cookies [07:39:02] idk why it happens [07:39:24] although the last time I had it was on a wiki which changed subdomain [07:47:40] Pesky indeed. [07:48:43] and cookies purge didn't help, someone uncovered it getting fixed w/ log out [07:53:19] So logout and it'll fix it? [07:54:19] [1/2] only in that URL change case [07:54:20] [2/2] login on Meta, then logout in there, then login again [07:57:38] i'm currently trying to override the default dark mode invert and defining my own colours [07:57:56] https://cecu.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector.css?useskin=vector can anyone tell why the background colour of the body tag isn't extending downwards? [08:00:33] (this is supposed to be for the legacy vector skin) [10:16:13] huh, I think I know what I was doing wrong, the css page I was editing was for the for the interface, not for my wiki pages, was wondering why my recent changes page looked so different šŸ˜… hmm, where do I change the actual pages. [10:18:08] MediaWiki:.css [10:18:28] [1/2] Common.css is for the entire wiki, and fonts must be defined on it [10:18:28] [2/2] there are skin specific CSS too, MediaWiki:Skinname.css [10:19:24] so I have to pick a skin and 'overwrite' it with my own css? [10:19:39] what you put in Common.css works no matter what, unless it's mobile mode (ignores everything but MediaWiki:Mobile.css) or an error in the code [10:20:25] [1/4] no [10:20:25] [2/4] I don't get what you mean at this point by interface [10:20:26] [3/4] are you picking the right classes? [10:20:26] [4/4] have you seen Void's reply about fonts? [10:20:44] classes? [10:21:02] and I don't think I have [10:24:02] [1/4] the usual process of modifying wiki's look is to poke around pages w/ element inspector [10:24:02] [2/4] the trick is to find proper elements you want to change, their classes or id's, and put those changes into CSS pages [10:24:02] [3/4] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1319311694979403849 [10:24:02] [4/4] but you are making stuff by yourself, say a nicely framed banner, you come up w/ classes/id's by yourself, and still define them in CSS; can be Common.css, can be done w/ additional extensions like TemplateStyles [10:24:42] Okay, I'll have to go watch a tutorial or two [11:11:32] cough cough https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13243 [12:05:35] Uuuugh idk [12:41:17] [1/2] Ray ID: 916f853e28e892df Error reference number: 502 Cloudflare Location: Copenhagen [12:41:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343563401506459679/image.png?ex=67bdba6d&is=67bc68ed&hm=9cbee021f5a1e28ab62b1b667f3357db219af0669cc01b81b6d2f631d441512c& [12:41:28] That time of day again šŸ˜› [13:19:24] hey guys [13:19:28] is awb still broken [13:19:29] :3 [13:20:41] (i know there are alternatives, but im more used to using awb) [13:23:34] yooooo it works i think [13:23:37] [1/2] its getting recognized! [13:23:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343574052907913296/image.png?ex=67bdc458&is=67bc72d8&hm=62c1aab8f48f7331431c012d7e8390cd9bcb569e74bc8b6e58af999f28c3e99e& [13:38:05] well i think i made a bot account for nothing [13:38:05] [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked) [13:39:54] oh nvm [13:48:25] oh ok its just stuck in a never ending loop of restarting when i use the bot account [13:51:37] [1/2] i donā€™t know why the main boxes are all white [13:51:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343581099326177392/IMG_8146.png?ex=67bdcae8&is=67bc7968&hm=0967351d845ecb1e47e661653e328548589d777af97076b076f2bf31ffca7102& [14:58:44] [1/2] is it possible to change the colors of these individual tags? [14:58:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343597992900300941/image.png?ex=67bddaa4&is=67bc8924&hm=8b5a914cf4c1aaf1dbd16fab1147d09ec0465ec33cc6a909db917b5f6ceda3db& [14:58:55] in userprofilev2 (i think thats what its called) [17:31:22] Yes there is a config variable in manage wiki. [17:31:27] In the styling tab i think [17:32:11] Although it doesnt at the moment respect font colour (so you need to manually change the font colour in css if its unreadable) [19:32:55] is class and id's the same thing [19:36:32] not really [19:37:12] [1/3] class="..." > .class [19:37:12] [2/3] id="..." > #id [19:37:12] [3/3] id's can also act as anchors [19:37:36] i still don't get it [19:38:48] learn HTML and styling basics, will help a lot in the long run [19:57:00] Hey [19:57:18] Nvm [20:10:00] is there a way to test out skins quickly or i have to manually apply, save and repeat with all [20:11:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta?useskin=monobook [20:11:21] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/955782924375031838/1149382913658462298/tuh.gif [20:11:28] Do note that only works with enabled skins on the wiki. [20:11:47] Special:Prefs should also have a preview link [20:12:29] ight [20:45:16] Mining go wiki? [22:11:32] yeah [22:16:19] do you play that game? [22:27:40] Yeah [22:27:42] :3 [22:27:44] Itā€™s pretty cool [22:28:05] update coming out on 27yh [22:28:28] Can you link the wiki? [22:28:31] gotta get ready for some mass typing [22:28:34] I havenā€™t found the wiki myself [22:28:38] sure one sec [22:29:10] https://mininggo.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:29:31] moon when roblox wiki is detected [22:29:40] Jokes on you [22:29:42] I actually play this game [22:29:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1343711485548826624/image.gif?ex=67be4457&is=67bcf2d7&hm=3923a6e0bb2da3f2cab03a3c2cd34133688d8492063e179e1d6a5396142f272e& [22:29:47] https://tenor.com/view/doggy-puppy-dog-eyes-waazaa-mouth-open-that%27s-nasty-gif-6416247761886252856 [22:29:54] but you left the server lol [22:30:03] WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [22:30:17] i mean you could probably play the game and not join the discord soo [22:30:26] Cluttered server list [22:30:33] Freeing some space šŸ’” [22:30:38] lol [22:30:51] Iā€™m assuming youā€™re staff on this wiki? [22:30:59] nah im too lazy for that [22:31:13] Ah [22:31:13] im the wiki leader [22:31:19] i created the wiki [22:31:20] Ooh [22:31:29] Thatā€™s cool [22:31:46] Would you be interested in joining a discord server for indie Roblox wikis? [22:31:46] i made almost all pages [22:31:58] what would i even talk about there [22:32:01] We have a pretty good community with a good lot of indie wikis represented [22:32:26] Itā€™s technically an alliance server nowadays but you can ask the people there for help with stuff like templates and css and whatnot [22:32:38] Iā€™m the overseer of an upcoming indie Roblox wiki alliance [22:32:44] Sorta like the alliance on fandom :3 [22:32:45] alright thats cool [22:32:53] :irwa: [22:32:59] Iā€™ll shoot you the invite [22:33:07] okay [22:33:08] Feel free to invite any other staff or editors if you want [22:33:16] sure [22:35:03] moon be wiki poaching /lh [22:35:30] We prefer the term ā€œwiki project enrichmentā€ [22:35:32] :clueless: [22:35:34] ./j [22:36:01] :datapack: [23:06:40] roblox wiki category for miraheze when [23:07:42] LMAO [23:08:18] was considering proposing a minor announcement to notify the community so other rb wikis know, but thats way too much of a COI [23:08:40] If someone else wants to move that onto the mod floor be my guest [23:08:52] that's the sort of thing best suited for a what's happening at miraheze update tbh [23:09:08] Nod nod [23:09:13] we should like [23:09:17] do those! [23:09:22] we should, who's gonna make it so [23:09:32] bye [23:09:38] I would support but cannot singlehandedly operate that kind of project [23:10:26] Totally [23:11:06] If/when i join tech i do wanna push to do a small scale blog thing along those lines + OrangeStarā€™s Tech Team Monthly [23:11:43] the idea of a techblog is so old [23:11:49] no one ever gets around to maintaining it [23:12:04] a semi-active tech blog existed at WikiTide but evidently died off here [23:12:33] weā€™ll see [23:12:47] a quick post of hey this is the stuff Iā€™ve worked on may work [23:12:52] nothing super in depth [23:13:00] it all depensw [23:13:33] Talked a bit with @cosmicalpha long these lines [23:15:28] @blankeclair thougths? [23:18:19] if we don't commit ourselves to a timeline we probably won't fulfil (such as promissing, in vain, a weekly or monthly blog) then it could work as a periodical review [23:26:45] I mean jotting down over the month then say the first weekend of the month we relay [23:26:48] šŸ˜ [23:27:22] Allowing for misc posts on specific topics whenever if one of is takeling a particularly interesting beast [23:27:43] like getting really drunk and rewriting CentralAuth [23:28:56] I don't like the idea of keeping it at a tech blog, it would be obscure and not add a great deal [23:29:35] rather it be more a miraheze wide thing including community/board bits with consistent updates, yes include but not revolve entirely around tech, or a more newsletter approach which might be too much [23:29:47] css is pretty hard when you are a fandom refugee [23:30:43] Yeah [23:30:59] Or maybe have different series in the same plau [23:31:24] some variety including tech-based blogs would be fine as long as the scope is fairly inclusive and the location isn't buried on phabricator [23:31:26] do you remember the idea of a `blogwiki` using SimpleBlogPost? [23:31:29] TTYL(Tech Team Yaps a Lot), community, board [23:31:30] that could be looked in to [23:31:39] I don't remember that at all but it sounds fun [23:31:43] I like Phorge blogs ngl [23:32:02] it doesn't help I have a pedantic bias against phorge [23:32:05] something something steward-sre separation doctrine, blah blah blah [23:32:09] could we mirror them? [23:32:12] you know the drill [23:32:14] bookoo [23:32:37] as a wiki farm I would rather focus on dogfooding mediawiki rather than going further into a place that is unfriendly to non techy users [23:33:03] which is ironic considering how few non sre stewards there've been [23:33:23] a distinct minority vs community-only ones [23:33:25] You, NA, Dooooug, Pioneer(?) [23:33:32] ndkilla maybe? [23:33:39] NDK was an SRE [23:33:42] I thought Killa was tech yes [23:33:49] NA had tech access on WikiTide [23:33:50] [[S]] [23:33:50] so yeah that's about it then [23:33:51] [23:34:00] Doug contended for my CES position for a while [23:34:07] so yes, the list is short [23:34:14] lets ignore that [23:34:18] my shtick in the first place was being one of the only stewards who wasn't knee deep in tech, indeed doug had his eyes there for some time [23:34:27] okay community engagement dont count [23:34:44] he did invest a bit in tech, but tbh, he was everywhere [23:34:57] his PRs were always interesting [23:35:46] [1/3] would manual account creations get past the issue described here [23:35:47] [2/3] [23:35:47] [3/3] I feel like it would [23:36:26] thatā€™s a good question and would depend a lot on how the rate limit is implemented [23:36:54] If done through wgRateLimit then Iā€™m pretty sure MediaWiki canā€™t differentiate between a privileged and normal user [23:39:02] Yup [23:39:07] I think [23:39:13] thereā€™s definitely a way to do it [23:39:22] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAccountCreationThrottle [23:39:29] `noratelimit` users aren't affected [23:39:37] over on wikimedia we have thr account creator and event coordinator group specifically to make accounts for people during events [23:39:39] How can I change the font size of one specific header in my infobox? Nothing I do seems to work [23:39:47] so if that user made the accounts through their bureaucrat account, then it wouldn't affect them [23:40:01] straightforward enough [23:50:21] I think I managed a grand total of three SMW enables before my SSH access got borked and I was never able to get back in. A grand run. šŸ˜„ [23:55:33] link? might look at it a bit later especially if you have tried things and it's in the history. Otherwise it comes down to having a unique css selector, might need to be wrapped in its own (otherwise dummy) tag in the template to get it done