[00:10:58] ? [00:21:20] is miraheze back yet [00:22:58] yeah [00:25:42] [1/6] ```css [00:25:42] [2/6] body { [00:25:42] [3/6] font-family: 'whatever font', sans-serif; [00:25:43] [4/6] color: #fff [00:25:43] [5/6] } [00:25:43] [6/6] ``` [00:26:16] [1/2] Mine was much easier. [00:26:16] [2/2] I came to work at an Internet Support Desk and got a Login username called Rodejong as Rdejong was already taken. And it stuck with me since 2002 I guess šŸ˜„ [00:26:50] So 23 years in the running [00:27:04] Never changed it [00:27:49] de Jong in the Netherlands is the most common last name in The Netherlands [00:28:54] [1/2] At my floor there were 3 "R* de Jong" working there šŸ˜› [00:28:54] [2/2] RdeJong, RedeJong and Rodejong šŸ˜„ [00:30:29] How do you pronounce ā€œRdeā€? [00:31:00] [1/2] If you need the Journal... That's also available now: [00:31:00] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Cite_journal [00:33:33] [1/2] You would probably pronounce it a bit like "(french:) deux (English:) Young" [00:33:33] [2/2] R is just the first letter of the name [00:33:49] So nothing special [00:34:29] de is just a middle piece added. Like in German "von" [00:34:46] or English "the" [00:35:21] It literally means R the Young [00:35:34] (I never get old) [00:39:24] I assume no issues after today's migration are known and all of the work has concluded? [00:39:34] Shockingly [00:39:43] Like [00:39:45] Without a hitch [00:39:49] Great, then time to make an issue :) [00:40:04] There are some images missing on the wiki after the migration lol [00:40:26] thumbnails are fine, but source images return 404, and I'm sure they were there [00:42:32] FRISK [00:42:56] _confused IRC noises_ [00:45:03] liike from undertale [00:46:18] How many times do you get that [00:47:54] https://removededm.com/File:wUBQ1o9rnh4.jpg is it normal for this file to not display? [00:48:00] > Although this PHP script (/w/img_auth.php) exists, the file requested for output (mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/4/4a/wUBQ1o9rnh4.jpg) does not. [00:49:20] as a fellow UTDR fan, i can probably assume [00:49:21] I wouldnā€™t be surprised if itā€™s because of the ongoing Swift migration [00:49:23] ...a lot [00:49:43] so the Swift is still migrating? [00:49:49] ah I'll just wait then [00:51:23] Fair enough, thought its all completed. If the issue resolves after I wake up I'll close my issue https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13279 [00:54:18] [1/2] What is this [00:54:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344472645843943565/image.png?ex=67c10939&is=67bfb7b9&hm=368773dd3e58262bb4478e03c1c5f5620ffba13d80dad5c9d8eb66dad43cd386& [00:54:23] My background is gone [00:54:35] probably related to above [00:54:39] Ah [00:58:15] i noticed that the . selector never works on ids that have more than one class [00:58:48] . Isnā€™t for id though [00:59:11] i know, i was talking about the ids with multiple classes [00:59:26] if i try to use . to select a class that an id has within multiple [00:59:28] nothing happens [00:59:31] Ah [01:05:20] [1/2] why am i getting this editor [01:05:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344475424536924233/image.png?ex=67c10bd0&is=67bfba50&hm=7c3355183ae42f1184e102e167daf3a3b269b477b7cbc1cb3402da70c7cd6f4c& [01:05:38] instead of the WikiEditor one [01:05:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344475534947520602/VectorEditorBasic-en.png?ex=67c10bea&is=67bfba6a&hm=d24fc24ab91e5dd9e4f5c002ccf0d0abb98cb2fcea99d010aac79bfbdc8e7842& [01:09:18] You clicked on the little pencil that is in blue now [01:10:17] And clicked on `> Advanced` as well [01:11:06] To get back to that, click on Advanced and the pencil again [01:11:56] oh [01:12:06] thanks [01:24:40] like... frisk deltarune [01:29:02] i only know the undertale [01:45:56] I dont think thereā€™s a frisk in deltarune [01:49:42] SHHHHH [01:52:00] Hello [01:52:09] How is everybody? [02:00:12] going insane because of JavaScript [02:00:17] :steamhappy: [02:01:06] Accurate lol [02:01:15] What are you trying to do? [02:03:24] I was trying to interface with [[mw:OOUI]] with vanilla js to make a user script on fandom [02:03:25] [02:03:59] But fandom has a bastardized version without all the widgets and i didnt notice and was just getting errors [02:04:02] :thumbsup: [02:15:45] Oh right, I wouldnt know anything about that [02:16:00] giggles (i can't do any better) [02:27:56] any way to delete recent changes? [02:28:05] cause uh, i forgot how to [02:28:51] You mean delete log entries? [02:29:08] yeah [02:29:24] [[mw:Help:RevDel]] [02:29:25] [03:29:40] [1/2] ? [03:29:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344511747179937842/Screenshot_20250227-102917.png?ex=67c12da4&is=67bfdc24&hm=3ef240ced73b22f002ce1fca34999dc2eb8eac3f0d0116578747e14ab806bc42& [03:48:45] TabberNeue isn't working for me. Does anyone here use the extension and been able to get it to work? [03:48:57] I enabled it from wiki settings [03:53:25] ever since the update 90% of the profile pictures on my wiki are gone lol [03:53:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344517783186047046/image.png?ex=67c13343&is=67bfe1c3&hm=9d6c442502299a27078f764812b3969dc88a80c5155e03d23805c5c9898b5180& [03:54:39] Hm, @orduin are swift migrations ongoing or did SP get left behind? [03:59:09] Swift migration is by file, not container [04:00:09] So do I have to ask my userbase to reupload their profile pics? [04:00:22] or will they come back? [04:00:35] Nah [04:00:37] Shouldn't be necessary, what happens if you try to access the image directly (right click and open in a new tab) [04:01:03] shows the default picture [04:01:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344519650683260978/image.png?ex=67c13500&is=67bfe380&hm=81c5d4a9de780e8d48fab8315075cfa921f4d70c77ef452d229007b441eab129& [04:01:10] If thereā€™s any data loss, something would have gone horribly wrong to a noticeable point [04:01:15] Hm. [04:01:28] I donā€™t think this is a swift issue specifically [04:01:56] this feels to be SocialProf forgot a user had a pfp [04:02:16] It wouldnā€™t automatically wipe it if swift is down would it? [04:02:54] No, but it may have started serving the default image when it couldn't find the original [04:02:57] Do you wanna try poking around in the DB to see if it remembers? [04:03:18] What would be the way to slap it hmm [04:03:34] purging cache layer #937? [04:03:39] isn't old social profile just unstable? [04:03:57] after mw update [04:04:59] Wouldn't know of the top of my head, if it persists, definitely worth creating a task [04:05:58] vaguely remember this mentioned [04:06:08] at this point better try new version [04:06:38] although idk if it'll require avatar uploads anew [04:06:40] Eh [04:07:02] It mainly just sucks and suffers from chronic skill issue [04:07:37] [1/2] Death to SocialProfile. [04:07:37] [2/2] Long live UserProfileV2 [04:08:06] it's old, so old šŸ˜” [04:09:52] Itā€™s not thaaaaat old. I mean, itā€™s actually younger then me :thumbsup: [04:10:12] But yes [[mw:1.14]] came out in 2009 [04:10:12] [04:13:36] no bias but OAā€™s remaster cooks though [04:14:04] like i would encourage a wiki to use it instead of asking my grandmother to say blessings for them [04:14:28] Urbanshade and phighting did good on styling it too [04:15:05] same [04:27:19] But does that mean that I have to tell everyone to upload their avatars again, though [04:27:54] I'm not very savvy with miraheze's functionality so I wouldn't know what to do in order to fix it [04:31:46] Nah, we should be able to fix it [04:32:35] Oh you mean on a global level? [04:32:46] I was under the impression that it was our wiki specifically [04:36:31] Shouldnā€™t be [04:53:12] Hey guys, I have a question about setting up an events section (event calendar) in my wiki. Please have a look at this [support question](https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1344532482200178708/1344532482200178708) if it's something you know. Thanks! [06:15:39] [1/2] hello, can I replace this Miraheze logo with my own logo from browser's tab? [06:15:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344553519113568297/image.png?ex=67c1548b&is=67c0030b&hm=cc015a7acfe82365a0b7dd3060c2f36db6186fb04d9a9da5b00b291e4de4d7ac& [06:27:54] [1/3] first upload image for it [06:27:54] [2/3] then in Manage this wiki's additional settings > Styling tab find favicon setting, it needs raw file link of that uploaded image [06:27:55] [3/3] for mobile browsers it's AppleTouchIcon [07:09:44] am I allowed to upload and use images on miraheze which are "free for personal and editorial use only"? [07:12:01] [1/3] yeah, you need to specify that in file's description [07:12:01] [2/3] but also - if Wikipedia already has such image, you won't have to upload it [07:12:01] [3/3] Miraheze by default has a tie w/ Wikimedia Commons so you'll need only filename [07:12:45] thanks, mate [07:14:34] [1/2] can I have this table like wikipedia use for a company and put all the details in a tabular form? [07:14:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344568343788785757/image.png?ex=67c1625a&is=67c010da&hm=ac5e9fc4ceb3d211bd646978a7c46cd108a793804996f24d3c073fd17d854a0b& [07:19:17] [1/5] it's called infobox [07:19:17] [2/5] I don't think we have a company one on Dev Wiki, but [07:19:17] [3/5] - we have simplified Lua infobox base, w/ which you create other templates [07:19:18] [4/5] - there's PortableInfobox extension, the most user/newbie friendly methos [07:19:18] [5/5] you can take from Wikipedia too but it's gonna result in a mess so we advise not doing that [07:19:44] [1/2] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]] [07:19:45] [2/2] [[Infoboxes]] [07:19:45] [1/2] [07:19:46] [2/2] [07:46:54] Ok then I think PortableInfobox is good for me, I will try to add this [09:16:34] I'll create one! [10:13:13] [1/2] Do we have enough access to add infobox? becuase it is asking to unpack the installer in extensions\PortableInfobox, and I think this folder is at the backend of the server where our wiki is running [10:13:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344613302948466699/image.png?ex=67c18c39&is=67c03ab9&hm=15e5c3742bf7b0d77aec539889c6207ed2e482f4b1581e992ca82b10e9152e40& [10:14:13] you don't install anything on Miraheze, extensions are already there - you go to Administration sidebar, manage extensions link, and enable PortableInfobox [10:46:42] [1/2] same but with this one, it's mine and I'd request a deletion while I rewrite and sheet [10:46:42] [2/2] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/2x2Masterism [10:58:12] How do I know the specs of the server where my wiki is currently hosted? [10:58:32] why? [10:58:52] @avengers9309 Tech namespace has most of the server specs in [10:58:59] [[Tech:Server usage]] i think [10:59:00] [10:59:48] To ensure the traffic coming to my wiki hosted on Miraheze able to handle it [11:00:15] which is your wiki @avengers9309 [11:00:20] i dont think thats possible [11:00:20] when you say that, you make me think your wiki is huge [11:00:58] unless your fisch, youre probably not anywhere near concerning but i can look at the stats [11:02:03] it is not that big, I just need to know the specs [11:02:11] wiki.smarthcm.cloud [11:03:56] Your wiki is 0.006% of our traffic [11:04:03] excluding files [11:04:50] what about utg.miraheze.org... im curious now [11:04:55] are you able to find the server specs? [11:05:09] mw* is shared between all wikis [11:05:16] so is cp* [11:05:21] there isn't a 1:1 mapping [11:05:44] yeah, every wiki doesnā€™t have its own server or else weā€™d have 15,000 servers [11:06:05] 0.1% [11:07:19] need to see where IRWA members stand [11:07:35] so if my wiki hosted on a server having other wikis too, what is the specs of that server? [11:07:44] @snowstacked your wiki has weird traffic [11:07:53] see [[Tech:Server usage]] [11:07:54] [11:07:59] is that bad [11:08:03] if you give me the domain, i can look [11:08:21] can i see hybridcafe.wiki [11:08:37] one sec [11:08:54] @snowstacked is anyone on your wiki using google cloud for anything? [11:09:18] no [11:09:47] 0.02% [11:09:57] ok, i'm going to block it [11:10:13] interesting [11:11:41] what about urbanshade.org [11:12:18] what about pizzatower.wiki while we're at it šŸ‘€ [11:12:42] not moved to cf [11:13:00] as above, not on cf [11:15:07] so my wiki is on cp server, can I see that stats of how many wikis currently hosted on this server, or tell me an average number of wikis hosted on a cp server? [11:15:37] cp37 will be your wiki [11:15:42] Your wiki isnā€™t something static [11:15:46] Itā€™s served by multiple servers [11:16:03] cp* are the servers which cache information [11:16:09] which is all wikis except those that are at the apex and use ns* as the nameservers [11:16:12] mw* are the servers who render your wiki [11:16:27] db* are the servers that store the actual information [11:16:34] your wiki goes via cloudflare -> cp37 -> any of mw* -> db? [11:16:42] sounds right [11:17:48] I may be late [11:17:53] What about combatinitiation.miraheze.org [11:18:52] 0.34% [11:19:00] sounds great, thanks both of you for the information @rhinosf1 @agentisai [11:19:12] Damn [11:19:23] no problem [11:20:46] half of that is malicious tbh [11:21:01] Huh [11:21:42] > (select(0)from(select(sleep(15)))v)/*'+(select(0)from(select(sle [11:21:44] as a header [11:21:50] šŸ¤” [11:21:59] i think i might block that one [11:23:23] :BanHammerMH: [11:35:09] now say how much money I don't have would be required to host "wiki.animalroyale.com" if Miraheze was charging for server resource usage /s (don't know if I want to know, just a thought thats been lingering in my head after reading https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Commitments_and_Future_of_Miraheze#Proposal_4:_Free_Hosting_&_Limitations) [11:36:49] Frisk: our server bill was 4700 dollars a year [11:37:18] yeah, surprisingly small for amount of MediaWiki wikis Miraheze hosts [11:37:31] that's 0.02% [11:37:34] it's probably rose [11:37:39] that was for last year [11:37:47] Agent: probably knows the 2025 bill [11:38:13] Frisk: but proportionate cost is like Ā£100 [11:38:24] we should probably be a bit better than that though [11:38:33] probably not count a 5XX or a 403 request [11:40:25] Frisk: we are really not joking when we say we'd be more than fine if every wiki gave a cup of coffee a year [11:40:50] if every user we have 15,000 wikis [11:41:56] Frisk: our only problem wiki really is the fisch one [11:45:02] Yeah. Though the "everyone chips in a cup of coffee" is nver going to happen, 0.001% will chip in 100 dollars, 0.01% will be able to chip in 5 dollars and so on. Fundraising is hard. Been watching how Matrix foundation is really struggling with their funding, and their annual budget is waaaaay higher than Miraheze's. [11:45:42] Frisk: it's never going to happen no but our last fundraiser was our best ever [11:46:02] Yeah, heard so [11:46:06] we were about $1 a wiki [11:46:17] if we could double that, that would be fantastic [11:46:37] only 4 users did over $100 [11:46:42] according to the page [11:47:46] Honestly it would make me feel a lot better if Miraheze had enough funding to at least sponsor some volunteers keeping Miraheze's operations afloat. Maybe not full-time (though that would be amazing) but at least as contractors to some capacity with limited amount of hours. [11:48:12] Frisk: i don't think we'll ever be able to pay people but maybe if we could offer other things [11:48:21] like training licenses [11:48:29] or laptops or something [11:49:10] Yeah, I know it's way off in the dream lands at the moment. Sadly. Have there been any attempts at obtaining grants? [11:49:31] We did get some Yubikeys from the incredible Yubico [11:49:44] Neat! [11:49:46] Which are worth like over a hundred dollars for 2 [11:50:13] a:money: [11:51:11] Alright folks get your wallets cough up the cache I want Miraheze to be my day job by the time I graduate college [11:51:14] I kinda wish there was someone that was rich enough to guarantee funding for Miraheze for a long time at least [11:51:30] we could ask jimbo? [11:51:44] Is he rich tho? [11:52:03] If so, then yeah [11:52:03] One of the things I'd defo see Miraheze in are for example NGI Zero grants. Since Miraheze is working within the goals they specify https://fundsforindividuals.fundsforngos.org/grants/apply-for-ngi-zero-commons-fund-2025/ [11:52:26] He sits on Fandomā€™s exec board so [11:52:34] Oh [11:53:36] Grants are something I think @agentisai was looking into while he was on theboard, I donā€™t know if anyone else has had the time too look into since, I think I saw it mentioned in the meeting minutes somewhere [11:53:38] I still have loads of free yubikeys available [11:54:23] Frisk: something like skillsoft licenses for volunteers would be cool [11:54:37] they are Ā£400/year per person though [11:55:00] let some of tech do some actual training [11:55:03] Skillsoft? [11:55:49] PixDeVl: online tech training [11:56:25] also would be nice if we could use our 501(3)(c) status to have our volunteers claim things like free certifications from microsoft [11:56:38] Do they do that? [11:56:45] you can ask [11:56:49] they can only say no [11:56:53] If thatā€™s a thing they do I see no reason not to [11:56:57] I see. Yeah, funding from various institutions sounds in allay of Miraheze. It is a non-profit, knowledge focused and open environment running on software that's powering biggest encyclopedia in the world. [11:57:10] there's some training for non profits on the microsoft website [11:57:33] I have access to LinkedIn Learning and a bunch of other corporate learning resources do those count [11:57:44] but for like PixDeVl and BlankEclair it'd be good for volunteering with us to look a lot more like something you could put on a CV etc [11:57:56] and say we paid for you to do training and stuff [11:58:20] so you can use them for college applications and stuff [11:58:22] oh true :3 [11:58:23] would be nice [11:58:50] like for an org with primairly young volunteers, i would love you to be able to use to further real life stuff [11:59:22] I donā€™t know if I would officially join tech before I finally college apps cause time and overwhelmed but who knows [11:59:46] oh i'd unoffically happily give out free azure training licenses to anyone useful tbh [12:00:17] Anyone want my library card credentials? [12:00:23] :thumbsup: [12:01:56] there's stuff at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/nonprofits/resources#tab-ai-and-copilot [12:02:00] [1/2] Guys, any ideas on "Setting up an Events section in a wiki? (Event Calendar)" ? [12:02:00] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1344532482200178708 [12:02:32] If there is no string attached, probably fine to grab [12:03:06] wait so what % of traffic is fisch šŸ˜­ [12:04:28] Agent: still around? [12:05:27] 25% [12:05:51] i have no idea how that wiki generates so much traffic [12:06:31] Indeed I was. As far as I know, no further efforts has moved forward after my presidency [12:06:31] :ThinkerMH: [12:06:44] hello [12:06:45] Very fun term [12:07:04] I was wondering about the free grants stuff too [12:07:07] So when are you running for POTUS btw [12:07:12] I did ping you on mattermost seperately [12:07:20] will check [12:07:59] Soon [12:08:03] MMGA [12:08:08] Make Miraheze Great Again [12:10:57] [1/2] wow! and they have only 9,416 wiki users ā€¢ 1,301 pages ā€¢ 2,034 files [12:10:58] [2/2] interesting numbers and conversion [12:11:08] @agentisai the databases have gone to lunch again [12:11:14] its coz [12:11:16] fisch is a big game [12:11:22] like 250,000ccu minimum [12:11:28] oh bother [12:11:33] amd fischipedia is the officially endorsed wiki for it [12:11:42] so a good chunk of the playerbase uses it [12:11:44] ye i don't get it but it's theres nothing obviously wrong with the traffic, it looks completely natural and as expected for a big roblox thing [12:11:47] this is partially why I want a db191 and db201 [12:12:02] it only really affects db171 though [12:12:15] it seems to be random servers, no? [12:12:18] that's network seems to have a field day every lunchtime and just throw a couple of 100GB traffic over it [12:12:21] nope [12:12:39] 25% of all mh traffic tho is crazy šŸ˜­ [12:12:42] I wonder if we could actually balance the db servers [12:13:32] i don't think it's traffic related [12:13:44] mw* or the other dbs don't seem directly affected [12:13:53] it's egress traffic on db171 that goes haywire [12:14:00] and then fucks everything else up [12:14:00] oh [12:14:08] i wanted to blame backups [12:14:14] but paladox ruled it out [12:14:31] Does someone do backups hourly or something? [12:14:41] it'd be daily [12:14:51] i'm impressed though if it's that bad [12:15:04] 40 minutes of really high network egress every day is impressive [12:15:14] @agentisai can you see anything happening on db171 now? [12:15:22] i regret [12:15:26] DAMN IT [12:15:40] now who am i gonna blsme [12:15:58] I'm checking [12:16:15] :hug: [12:16:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344644413950922752/image.png?ex=67c1a932&is=67c057b2&hm=15df90db72cafc1dae5632198261546079e2fc24d36b5fc66ea582d098d0a959& [12:16:54] Well, given it's cloud storage, I don't think that 40 minutes of backup is something unless that thing overload the whole server [12:16:56] :thonk: [12:18:05] Is it possible to limit backup speed? [12:18:26] what do you mean? [12:18:45] why so many generations of the db lists? [12:19:01] Something like reduce CPU priority on Windows [12:19:08] I'm guessing a bug in MirahezeFunctions [12:19:17] but like generateDatabaseLists shouldn't cause this [12:19:29] and why would it happen between 12:00 and 12:50 every day [12:20:48] Hm, what else runs daily besides backups [12:21:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344645477101994014/image.png?ex=67c1aa30&is=67c058b0&hm=3ed7bb451f135942c2a1b6acb323e1c407a648635f3b22cd4a0033098973169e& [12:21:06] goodness me [12:21:15] I thought fischipedia was all just bots [12:21:23] no, it really is people looking at the wiki [12:21:28] it seems to look fairly natural [12:21:35] if it was bots i'd block them [12:21:43] Welp, it's roblox game [12:22:11] Not some random niche game [12:22:35] yeah but I didn't think Roblox generated that much buzz [12:23:34] Big game [12:23:48] Roblox ccu is like 5M [12:23:50] 292,178 online currently [12:24:06] 2.1B+ lifetime visits [12:25:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344646611493716028/Screenshot_20250227_192524_Firefox.jpg?ex=67c1ab3e&is=67c059be&hm=b43d7b291d610889874da2115438818b71b3bc9401a6cbffa624a7d22797a17d& [12:48:46] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_company [12:56:02] About that: https://nlnet.nl/propose [12:57:14] Although considering how slow the EU is with subsidies, this could take a while lol [13:01:26] yeaaah, I think it's worth a try for someone from organizational side of Miraheze to send in a proposal, maybe there is some project that's just not getting progressed and funding would help it get somewhere. But that's not up to me. [13:02:43] applying for grants is not that easy either, it requires planning out the work and describing it, that's a lot of work [13:09:47] worth a shot on the longer term and I know the board has looked at grants several times [13:32:02] [1/2] nice [13:32:02] [2/2] no need to ping tho [15:04:56] how do people make templates look that good [15:19:50] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person [15:20:03] Practice I guess. [15:20:17] Been tinkering with templates for about 15 years šŸ˜„ [15:26:41] what [15:27:31]  & * [15:27:47] what does that mean i wonder [15:39:49] is it possible to make something like an afk function [15:40:08] [1/2] if the user isn't doing aynthing for long enough, something happens [15:40:08] [2/2] otherwise, something else happens [15:41:47] In what [15:42:18] the miraheze wiki [15:42:31] [1/2] i want to like [15:42:31] [2/2] replicate a battle background from a game [15:42:40] that fades in and out depending on if they're combat tagged or not [15:43:03] You want to turn a wiki.. into a game? [15:43:11] [1/2] no? [15:43:11] [2/2] i just want to add style to the wiki [15:43:52] js that looks at last contribution date, perhaps [15:44:01] api [15:44:04] or something [16:02:03] Is the maintenance notice still up [16:02:15] [1/2] no [16:02:15] [2/2] i'm able to run my wiki just fine [16:05:20] No the banner [16:05:21] I just saw it [16:05:59] <_arawynn> no banner for me on my wiki [16:06:28] ohhh let me see [16:06:42] yeah no i don't see it [16:11:41] Me neither [16:16:14] [1/5] okay [16:16:14] [2/5] i'm trying to make like [16:16:15] [3/5] two elements that are on the same level as the background [16:16:15] [4/5] and those two elements have an animated background [16:16:15] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344704657859022848/image.png?ex=67c1e14d&is=67c08fcd&hm=120a68d318ea0d6b5e5c9ed291ac2a71c724590aa1d7b2efa2ec24c4d483b440& [16:16:26] and the ACTUAL background you see here i'm going to just make black [16:17:39] [1/2] is there any way to get the gallery search to only show images uploaded on your own wiki or will it always show commons images [16:17:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344705013032943646/image.png?ex=67c1e1a2&is=67c09022&hm=fd776b56c88c67b057a6fee31dbc39c867ea7b8047d83905e5f1c75049685637& [16:56:22] um guys [16:56:27] what happened to all of the references [16:56:40] my references are gone? [16:56:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344714915973300304/image.png?ex=67c1eadb&is=67c0995b&hm=f02732d3062db3bea21100bad7d78319dc8fd5321bd4b2a26073898bfe4179cf& [16:57:26] Hug [16:57:28] Huh [16:57:36] @oceanwavez did that literally just happen [16:57:48] Like was it working half an hour ago? [16:58:31] oh ok [16:58:33] i fixed it [16:58:37] it just needed me to re-edit it [17:01:41] That's weird [17:01:47] That shouldn't happen [17:04:01] If anyone else is seeing unusual behaviour that changes on refresh / reparse of a page, please ping me and paladox [17:34:00] Is there a way to fix the first row of a table so it is always displayed on top while scrolling down through the table? [17:34:07] [1/2] hello guys is this normal [17:34:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344724260236562565/image.png?ex=67c1f38f&is=67c0a20f&hm=eb547674ba4ff872d508e468a5699b058a2b92451c7b1baaf166b1aab474e55b& [17:34:22] how can i fix it [17:34:56] Can you show us the whole code of the infobox? [17:34:58] is this related to the aggressive captchas appearing for all users now? [17:35:27] its blocking legitimate bots like Wiki-Bot's logs and our own bot [17:37:35] No [17:37:52] If you're seeing a captcha, we can help though [17:38:10] No [17:38:28] everyone i've asked on our editor team is getting a captcha on , and our bots have stopped functioning [17:39:11] That's weird [17:39:39] i'm also getting a captcha on fischipedia.org [17:40:27] I am too [17:40:49] and it's a cloudflare 403 in @WikiBot [17:41:17] @agentisai I'm looking very much at you [17:41:24] Cause I didn't do that [17:41:32] everyone stares at Agent [17:41:50] Who did rule 15 & 16 [17:42:02] evil [17:42:12] Cause they don't need to be rules anyway [17:43:13] [1/2] last action successfully logged by Wiki-Bot was [17:43:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344726548204486777/image.png?ex=67c1f5b0&is=67c0a430&hm=edff13aaeed52b2a5c0f2751be1779d9f21ad29f831d6254a2690958adcee6ba& [17:43:34] Please don't call our tech team evil [17:47:30] on pain of DROP * [17:48:01] that's a scary command [17:48:30] fish [17:48:57] second only to INSERT Ć· 0 [17:53:28] or the good 'ol `rm -rf --no-preserve-root /` [17:55:54] ah yes [18:02:33] will nedd a link [18:03:16] oh you fixed it [18:03:37] link please [18:04:14] are keyframes not working for anyone else or am i just doing something wrong? [18:04:30] oh wait nevermind it's because there's existing animation stuff that's !important for... some reason [18:04:37] Oh fischipedia [18:05:32] fwiw can confirm that Wiki-Bot's recent changes has been getting 403's since around 2025-02-25 12:54:32 UTC [18:05:42] (on fishipedia) [18:06:00] [1/2] my main problem is trying to layer these items on top of each other [18:06:01] [2/2] because right now they're just going one above another [18:06:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344732314294550538/image.png?ex=67c1fb0f&is=67c0a98f&hm=82eef0c2b5dae0f5fb51307ddee1d64f4085e3162f339f87b6040e45087007f4& [18:06:28] @celeranis have u tried the webhook instead of wikibot [18:06:58] [1/2] The one that looks like this [18:06:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344732526287130696/image0.jpg?ex=67c1fb42&is=67c0a9c2&hm=da8dd9e86636f76fc16314c5670d3789a330a3a7e9ff2f9d990c523d20e0dc4b& [18:07:28] we haven't [18:08:52] It should work differently and not identify as a bot [18:09:10] since wikibot uses this https://gitlab.com/chicken-riders/RcGcDw/-/wikis/Guide which could be flagged [18:09:59] wikibot uses RcGcDb which has properly set up User-Agent [18:10:07] For use on Miraheze wikis [18:11:01] Otherwise we wouldn't be able to ask Miraheze wikis at all (and we are able to generally) [18:11:30] This looks like an issue with Miraheze CF setup, considering I get the same captcha with my web browser [18:11:55] i'll look into the extension, but i don't think that will solve the issue of aggressive captchas blocking other bots [18:13:00] Im sure you can ask tech to lesser the cloudflare protection or whitelist bots [18:14:50] okay the keyframes are still not working [18:18:26] I see [18:52:19] what causes the new html elements to automatically just be stacked one above another [19:54:18] Very late reply but do you mind checking urbanshade.org :CerberSmug: [19:56:15] Not on cf yet [19:56:55] Is that good or bad [20:00:29] [1/2] Whoa. [20:00:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1344761091456237599/image.png?ex=67c215dc&is=67c0c45c&hm=091fb0c22fb26721f4abec0bdff85928b70b9b2719685c621a69f592e250fbed& [20:00:49] It's almost like extensions just failed to load [20:00:52] again... https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13243 - this is the most straightforward task I've filed and every time I've requested it before it's been done within a couple hours. it's now been over a week and we're seriously starting to worry over SEO implications [20:01:52] actually i think this is fitted more to the tech channel [20:02:07] Means itā€™s hard to get an exact count [20:02:59] @rhinosf1 could you get a view count from NGINX logs? [20:03:30] It needs to move eventually [20:03:37] Me, no [20:03:45] F [20:03:58] Well, someone, in general [20:04:11] Are we still waiting on Flare staff [20:04:25] I've mostly given up hope tbh [20:04:39] They have slower responses than my work [20:04:48] Yes [20:05:07] :( [20:05:15] Cloudflare should respond by the time Iā€™m in out of uni? [20:06:28] I wonder if my procurement request at work or Cloudflare fully answering our ticket or you finishing uni will happen first [20:06:44] Well [20:06:48] Remember the alternative [20:06:56] Can we help with something? Is miraheze making you sad? [20:07:14] Waiting for Mozilla to add that one DNS record support to Firefox [20:07:41] That will probably happen before my procurement goes through at work tbh [20:07:49] [1/4] yeah [20:07:49] [2/4] i'm basically trying to make my wiki similar to Pizza Towers' Wiki in how its' structured [20:07:49] [3/4] including the Timeless skin, cuz i like it a lot [20:07:50] [4/4] but there's just one big issue right now [20:08:07] the bodys' background shrinks if i make the resolution of the window too thin or wide [20:08:33] Open a thread in #support and one of our folks that love css will be able to advise on that [20:08:36] [1/2] making it so the background effectively just [20:08:37] [2/2] disappears [20:08:44] With Firefox, If weā€™re really lucky thatā€™ll happen before I retire [20:11:24] @ski CSS made both me and a senior developer with like 40 years experience sad this week though so don't worry. You're far from alone. [20:12:20] :) [20:13:20] I think I solved it, seems like bad cache [20:15:11] We're aware of it [20:15:18] Null edits are helping [20:15:22] But we don't have a cause yet [20:15:58] Purging worked on my case [20:41:53] how do I upload multiple files at once using MsUpload? [20:44:35] drag and drop in editor [21:38:42] requested a wiki like 10 minutes ago and it got approved! jeez that was fast, thanks volunteers <3 [21:42:40] For clarify, Chances are it was probably the AI reviewer our volunteers set up because in the past requests would likely take closer to 10 days [21:43:28] Curses of success:p [21:54:27] [1/2] okay, this may sound crazy [21:54:27] [2/2] this is in the theme of the game that this wiki is for [21:54:56] [1/3] i want to try and make it [21:54:57] [2/3] so you have to click a button on multiple pages [21:54:57] [3/3] and if you clicked all of them, you're able to access a secret unlockable page [21:54:58] is this possible? [22:23:19] [1/2] why does notitle don't work? [22:23:19] [2/2] https://pseudopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Pseudopedia:Portada [22:29:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/55684#mw-section-comments [22:29:38] not sure AI had the correct response there [22:29:46] [1/2] different question [22:29:46] [2/2] how do I get rid of this header color hack without it leaving a gap? [22:29:58] should be an automatic decline per CP since that would be forking an MH wiki [22:34:07] Hm [22:34:12] @agentisai cc [22:34:28] Ill forward to the wiki request problem approval thread [22:34:30] thanks mac [22:37:03] AI canā€™t detect forks yet [22:37:35] more so because the URL given in the fork section isnā€™t on miraheze.org [22:40:57] can we feed it a flat list of current custom domains and normal domains [22:42:08] We can but that list would fall out of date too fast [22:42:13] and the prompt will be too large [22:42:20] we need to optimize it through functions [22:43:07] Oh yea, are the proposed GPUs part of this latest upgrade? [22:43:33] They are not [22:43:45] We require more funds [22:45:32] have we asked jimbo [22:46:01] weā€™re going to look into that [22:46:42] miraheze must construct additional pylons [22:46:44] try his emwiki talk pahe [22:46:44] obviously [22:46:52] im sure he checks that regularly [22:47:29] If not, anyone up for an uninvited tour of Fandom HQ? [22:48:31] Maybe we could do some looking for applicable grants too [22:48:47] this might be a good year to resume that search [22:49:21] since most grants are for a specific project, and we donā€™t too often get solid and defined ideas like this where the blocker is cash [22:49:37] And thereā€™s probably tons of AI scoped grants these days [22:50:04] Frisk linked https://fundsforindividuals.fundsforngos.org/grants/apply-for-ngi-zero-commons-fund-2025/ [22:50:10] but i think it closed [22:50:40] https://nlnet.nl/propose [22:50:43] shall we start with trying to get money for the GPUs if possible then? [22:50:52] yonic_soseki linked [22:50:57] Ooooooo [22:52:05] Poke @.labster aka chairman aka money person aka first board member i saw online [22:52:20] <.labster> Hey o [22:52:38] potus chair labster [22:54:18] Former POTWTF [22:54:19] The only thing I'm not sure about nlnet grants is the scope, vast majority of their funding seems to go to software projects, Miraheze is more of a platform. [22:54:27] now jusr CHOTWTF [22:54:35] miraheze magic is a project... checkmate [22:54:49] ManageWiki could use some love [22:54:52] no, itā€™s COTBODOTWTF [22:55:01] a load ye [22:55:10] Doesnā€™t roll of the tounge as well [22:55:15] wait [22:55:16] i got it [22:55:20] It does [22:55:27] Cot-bod-ot-wtf [22:55:45] in 95% sure @cosmicalpha is a robot at this point, hence, he is a software project. [22:56:07] <.labster> More machine than man [22:56:09] checkmate liberals [22:57:27] <.labster> Their ā€œfediversaryā€ grant program mentions wikis. Data portability tools could definitely get funding. [22:59:13] <.labster> Imagine, if you will, a version of ManageWiki that could be deployed with a docket instance, so all you need is a config file to move to a new host. For example [23:00:03] somewhere on CA's extended backlog projects to do from what I recall [23:00:09] It is [23:00:21] which is why ManageWiki is now easily installable [23:00:37] and unfortunately, we have haphazard spin off farms as a result [23:00:50] We have a few docker images/install guides [23:00:57] M [23:00:59] I could see it coming to good use in self managed networks [23:01:17] now granted the first network that springs to mind does not inspire optimism [23:01:19] Internal company project [23:01:23] but there can be better I'm sure [23:01:30] I think of two [23:02:06] as a standalone all in one wiki management tool there's great potential, but managewiki is a bit big for that case [23:02:08] @agentisai how hard would it be to make MW/CW work with shared database accounts instead of GA [23:02:09] ..? [23:02:38] could do it with js maybe but youā€™d need to code if yourself [23:02:46] that's fair enough [23:02:53] i imagine i'd have to do it with cookies? [23:03:10] Mmmm, that or localstorage if possible [23:03:20] It works without CentralAuth [23:03:24] WikiForge is an example [23:03:28] PRAISE BE [23:03:42] i was talking with markus a few days ago [23:03:47] that reminds me, WF support is a bit backed up from what I recall hearing [23:04:21] Was a back and fotth of me complaining about CA and he explaining how shared tables does everything better basically/hj [23:04:33] Oh yeah raidarr since youā€™ve mentioned [23:04:43] rememberception [23:04:52] also brought up a few points about Gblock vs lock [23:05:03] next time we have that argument [23:05:19] where be [23:05:29] Minecraft Wiki discord [23:05:43] last point for me was that I was sold enough on temporary usage but not as a permanent one, with incredibly little realistic in between [23:05:50] how long until Wikimedia starts using it [23:05:56] never probably [23:06:01] :( [23:06:07] the day centralauth gits nice to use [23:06:43] I do remember showing a wikimedian it in action once and there seems quite hapoy at how easy it was compared to wmfā€™s process [23:06:55] still laugh that their deployment tool is named scap [23:07:40] :thinkelle: [23:07:57] <.labster, replying to raidarr> SUL3 is introducing unicorns and sunshine, probably [23:07:57] am i able to make javascript for a specific page by making MediaWiki:[pagename].js? [23:08:40] Uuuuuuuh i think maybe but not that exact format [23:08:46] ahh [23:09:03] You could always check the page title on the top of the script [23:09:20] SUL3 is why staying on LTS is not an option [23:10:22] <.labster, replying to agentisai> Legit best argument Iā€™ve heard [23:31:01] I can buy that [23:39:58] [1/2] how can i get more instant results for messing with CS [23:39:59] [2/2] i see that changes always take a moment to kick in [23:41:10] for rapid fire changes i like to edit a local file and setup a really simple light http server and load from localhost [23:41:19] python has one, windows too I think [23:57:33] php too has a built in webserver [23:57:38] (and is also the best language so) [23:57:39] how do i change the text color? [23:57:49] [1/3] ` p { [23:57:50] [2/3] color: green; [23:57:50] [3/3] }` [23:58:14] [1/4] i thought it was [23:58:14] [2/4] `body { [23:58:14] [3/4] color: #fff [23:58:15] [4/4] }` [23:58:40] you can do that for all of the text, yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it because then you're changing the colour of h2, h1, etc [23:59:45] what did i see about going to see a physiatric about that [23:59:53] a what