[00:27:02] [1/2] is it still happening [00:27:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348089663205933137/image.png?ex=67ce31d6&is=67cce056&hm=fcaf2037db53a477af3de17a2d9f2a253bb50b35dd956b6dcca34cfd38f796f3& [00:28:24] what would be the css code to format indented and list text? [00:33:29] no im not sure why you still see that [00:34:53] [1/2] weird that i see it on this specific page logged out [00:34:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348091640862216192/image.png?ex=67ce33ad&is=67cce22d&hm=192f28a1847d0f7c568947d9f4974a2033a9351f669291b1a76f7b5b05f591e3& [00:35:10] and no other page [00:54:59] he's right [00:55:07] its on that specific page [00:55:33] {{mh:utg:Area 51}} [00:55:35]

[00:56:39] there's also no "X" on the screen to get rid of it [00:57:15] wait [00:57:18] theres more [00:57:21] Maps page [00:57:43] Courtyard [01:03:40] {{mh:utg:Courtyard}} [01:03:42]

[01:21:26] Indenting is usually done by starting a new line with a `:` [01:21:47] More `:::` will indent further. [01:22:10] Yes, but how do I set the format in the css for what indented text looks like? [01:22:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Indent [01:23:33] thanks [01:24:36] [1/3] ```

[01:24:37] [2/3] Paragraph content. [01:24:37] [3/3] /p``` [01:25:12] You can do that for a whole block [01:26:58] This @blankeclair [01:27:16] ngl i'm not quite sure how the discord bot works [01:27:47] @pixldev do you know how the archive discord bot thingy works? :3 [01:28:21] Yes only one i think [01:28:32] wdym only one [01:28:37] will show aftet SSB [01:28:42] lol [01:28:43] no one else knows how [01:28:46] brb [01:28:59] [1/4] edit wiki or it will be set as inactive and then closed but what if the wiki is finished? [01:28:59] [2/4] > The question is pretty much what is said above. Every time I don't edit my wiki for a sufficiently long time, I receive that message and every time, I do a token edit to dispel it, but what about when I will have written the last page of my wiki? [01:29:00] [3/4] > [01:29:00] [4/4] Interesting [question](https://www.reddit.com/r/MirahezeWikis/comments/1j6tkrz/edit_wiki_or_it_will_be_set_as_inactive_and_then/) from r/MirahezeWikis sub-reddit [01:29:00] Aight [01:30:13] Hello [01:30:17] one can apply for a dormancy policy exemption btw [01:30:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy#Exemptions [01:32:07] thanks, will forward your solution to the author. [01:32:25] Ah [01:33:10] i should go have dinner after 30m of blahaj hugging tbh [01:34:31] https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Wikibot [01:35:16] You want to use "xmlrevisions" instead of "xmlapiexport" unless the wiki is too old to support it (it's faster) [01:35:48] (for fandom we usually use bypass-cdn-image-compression too) [01:36:01] if a wiki is ""finished"" you can apply for protections iirc [01:36:17] oh nvm i should have scrolled down [01:42:03] how long should i expect to wait for common.css changes to reflect on https://tally.miraheze.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=site.styles ? [01:53:06] well it shows up now 🫠 [02:16:21] a minute or two [02:39:32] seems to take about 11 minutes FWIW [03:45:35] hi. i want to ask about the multiple image problem, it wont show the frame [03:48:39] you can use personal.css to speed things up [03:48:47] or just inspect element the css file [03:48:59] [1/2] does anyone have idea why this navbox is just "clipping" through this infobox [03:49:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348140488456278107/image.png?ex=67ce612b&is=67cd0fab&hm=3005f9c4f1b85270ebaefb87a0340370e90d7565170b8f4bc2adcdd01323a58b& [04:08:53] Uuse this where? [04:21:37] can anyone help with this [04:39:10] show code or sumthing [04:39:15] or the link [05:08:21] https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/Template:Area_Navigation [05:44:06] try setting the first div style to "display: inline-block" [06:16:10] it worked [06:16:12] thanks!!!!!!! [07:41:15] ahh hello miraheze [07:49:27] morning [08:42:57] Good morning everyone [08:45:53] Morning [09:05:17] Morning [09:06:02] <.galareta> [1/2] Any idea why the logo is squezzed? [09:06:02] <.galareta> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348220272578134016/image.png?ex=67ceab79&is=67cd59f9&hm=a916c2b39bbb992a5c6a66f27bcfee94c85df402f340b15d6400613efdab3f75& [09:06:24] <.galareta> The file I've uploaded is 135x135. [09:12:15] 350x350 is preferred [09:12:24] vector 2022 skin? [09:15:17] <.galareta, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yep. [09:15:29] <.galareta, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'll resize it then. [09:31:41] <.galareta> Still no result. [09:33:17] something strange is happening [09:33:28] haven't touched CSS? [09:33:45] because yesterday another admin had issues w/ logo on monobook skin [10:16:23] [1/3] bro what [10:16:23] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348237978752778300/image.png?ex=67cebbf7&is=67cd6a77&hm=e1b89cc68a1c3051c4019e3022949907bb9049a0ed6a86dce122cc04e2d4afd6& [10:16:24] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348237979105104002/image.png?ex=67cebbf7&is=67cd6a77&hm=4613ee5388ce95e9d74ca52aa19a66d5e1dbcba704dd76aa5c3efaba6b5e322c& [10:22:09] check file name on upload [10:23:03] [1/2] what the fuck... [10:23:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348239656923299892/image.png?ex=67cebd87&is=67cd6c07&hm=e6c904f54610fe7b45c803319af3f0899fcb8c49b75d196272d6c4b702a7eb0c& [10:28:05] found a way [10:28:14] converted it from png to jpg [10:28:16] then jpg to png [10:28:20] amazing. [11:04:51] Welcome to the wonders of webp [11:05:18] Someone decided optimising files was a good idea [11:05:40] and having browsers pretend to serve the untouched original to be seamless [11:06:12] i fucking hate webp [11:06:16] literally the most useless thing ever [11:06:33] I don't know anyone who likes it [11:09:21] so many people upload images as ".PNG" ".png.png" ".jpg" [11:09:24] like bro go use png [11:09:27] not webp or jpeg [11:09:28] or jpg [11:09:41] or whatever other image files types there [11:16:30] saw one guy on tumblr who preached for because gif is too outdated it's harmful (dude got destroyed in notes because gifs are a huge part of tumblr culture) [11:36:36] babe, .qoi just dropped [11:37:06] some platforms use mp4s with no audio track for gifs [11:37:09] e.g. telegram [11:38:24] twitter started that yeah [11:38:31] oh neat [11:38:46] didn't know thw orig [11:38:51] telegram is more complicated, it goes both ways [11:38:57] no it's ass lol [11:39:00] of course it does [11:40:03] what about https://core.telegram.org/api/gifs though? [11:40:25] unless you set force_file ig [13:09:12] Doesn't that just lower the image quality, as JPG is a lossy format? If the file extension is wrong because it's a webp file masquerading as a png file, the correct course of action would be to change the file extension to webp, then use an image editing program to convert it to png the proper way. [13:28:23] You probably don't know that webp can be lossless [13:28:46] And definitely superior to pngs if you want to store lossless files [13:30:11] [1/3] About images: [13:30:11] [2/3] If it is already lossy, don't convert it further [13:30:11] [3/3] If it is lossless, convert it to another lossless format that is better and have wide range of browser support [13:31:43] Lossless? [13:32:23] Yea, webp can be lossless [13:32:36] [1/2] why am i suddenly logged out and when i try to log back in i see this [13:32:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348287360466419812/image.png?ex=67cee9f4&is=67cd9874&hm=34fa1b2e87a2c5ef955674792ecab63d7a18a816a6bd16d35672ffa3bf4f7afb& [13:32:59] Clear all cache and clear the current wiki cookie [13:33:25] I don't know what that means [13:34:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless_compression [13:35:26] "without loss" [13:35:33] ah [13:35:38] @rodejong file compression can be lossy or lossless. Lossy compression permanently looses some sort of quality. Lossless compression means you can perfectly reconstruct. [13:35:57] In an image, lossless compression, might just be indication the next 5 pixels are all the same colour [13:36:13] okay [13:36:15] Lossy, would be saying they are a very similar colour so we're going to treat them all the same [13:39:19] is my account logging out suddenly a part of wiki renaming [13:39:51] maaaybe [13:40:09] try to login on meta, manually log out in there, and login again [13:40:12] on meta [13:44:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348290404990189618/image.png?ex=67ceecca&is=67cd9b4a&hm=9819f104d0e96a348d622fb2dbf0caa6d5bbdc3b8c255fd5e35e64032827c501& [13:46:28] Please try to refresh the page [13:46:37] Log out [13:46:42] Then login [13:47:56] Hey chat, so what if i updated 3DAlloy to allow for fully textured 3D models to be rendered and interactible in ANY MediaWiki including Miraheze [13:47:58] i did that [13:48:13] God dammit this is support [13:48:16] Im dumb mb [13:49:41] i did that but still nothing [13:50:22] Did you delete cookies and cache? [13:50:43] not sure how to do that [13:50:55] What browser do you use? [13:51:30] opera [13:51:35] gx [13:52:29] [1/6] 1. On your computer, open Opera. ... [13:52:29] [2/6] 2. At the top left, click on the Opera icon. [13:52:30] [3/6] 3. Click History then Clear browsing data. [13:52:30] [4/6] 4. At the top, choose a time range. ... [13:52:30] [5/6] 5. Check the boxes next to "Cookies and other site data" and "Cached images and files". ... [13:52:31] [6/6] 6. Click Clear data. ... [13:52:33] Chromium based [13:53:45] [1/2] still shows this [13:53:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348292679611453450/image.png?ex=67ceeee8&is=67cd9d68&hm=4496415e52a0202b659140777d267dee9c5dcddbb9fda9d5e37c4d31e4fa4c7f& [13:54:09] what wiki you are trying to login? [13:54:15] my wiki [13:54:16] rorvik [13:54:49] try to login > logout > login on meta.miraheze.org, then head to your wiki [13:55:12] i did that [13:55:15] still same thing [13:55:40] Try on [[mh:login:]] [13:55:41] [13:56:01] That was what that wiki was created for [13:56:42] I was about to ask something then I forgot. [13:56:47] Then I figured out how to make it work. [13:57:06] I threw a wrench at it. [13:57:12] I think it's working. [13:57:21] I made a very very dumb code for the module I was making. [13:57:31] Let's hope it work. (It is right now.) [13:57:50] Can't wait for some of the users on my wiki to casually break something. [13:58:15] What's your wiki? I can try! [13:58:23] still nothing [13:58:40] its logged in on login wiki but not my wiki [13:58:48] maybe its part of wiki rename [13:59:00] I am logged in on your wiki [13:59:04] It's a niche country roleplay community. [13:59:20] Just joking [13:59:21] This is getting annoying, may need to ask tech if the usual tricks don’t work [13:59:38] Beside. They already broke half of my wiki with my tagging category. [13:59:54] 200 pages with broken file links, unknown parameters [13:59:55] may need to ask tech if issue still persists tomorrow [14:00:14] im sure stuff breaks when wiki undergoes rename [14:00:28] That are links to files that aren't uploaded yet [14:00:30] especially for 2 times this week because of a mistake [14:00:43] And also unknown parameters. [14:00:46] A lot of them. [14:01:32] Link? [14:01:48] Mostly errors on infoboxes. [14:01:59] Like putting words instead of numbers for nums only infobox. [14:02:10] I can fix them it's just it's a lot. [14:04:10] Use AWB? [14:04:45] What's that? [14:04:59] Auto Wiki Browser. [14:05:12] Most of the time the infoboxes are broken due to visual editor usage. [14:05:26] As much as I wish to beg people to use sources. Most of these folks are casual users. [14:05:27] [[w:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser]] [14:05:28] [14:05:35] Ooohhhh. [14:05:40] What does it do? [14:05:49] Help you? [14:05:54] 😉 [14:05:57] With? [14:06:02] Read the page [14:06:05] Sorry. I'm not bright. [14:06:10] Small corrections. [14:06:17] Find problems [14:06:57] No more having to open individual pages. Edit them and then publish? [14:08:00] yup [14:08:10] Will it prevent user stupidity? [14:08:27] Like copying an entire wikipedia article and ask me why it doesn't work? [14:08:35] Unfortunately no [14:08:44] 😄 [14:08:47] Damn... [14:08:53] Still have to port them myself. [14:08:56] 😔 [14:09:44] [1/2] Be aware that forking Wikipedia is not allowed! [14:09:44] [2/2] (Using the Templates is permitted though) [14:10:00] Permitted is [14:10:03] Technically correct [14:10:28] Mhm. [14:10:47] That is if people are willing or capable of handling the rabbit hole that is wikipedia module and template. [14:11:06] They usually don*'t. [14:11:14] Better use [[mh:dev:Category:Templates]] [14:11:15] [14:11:31] Everybody wants wikipedia style wiki until they have to code the template and module. [14:11:38] Yup [14:11:56] Fortunately I can do it (I have a problem). [14:12:24] (don't we all?) [14:12:50] By the way. Just a question. Forking means yoinking the articles themselves, right? [14:12:59] My brain isn't functioning properly. [14:13:06] CopyPasting yes [14:13:47] Yeah. Fortunately my users aren't that stupid. They usually just copy the article to change it to their own things... Without consulting me about the modules or templates then let me sort out the fire they started. [14:14:06] heh [14:14:12] It took a couple of everyone pings to put an end to that affair. [14:14:47] Working with a niche community about worldbuilding a fictional universe is hard work. [14:14:57] They are usually faster than me. [14:15:08] A bit too fast. [14:16:59] Just block them for a week so you can catch up 😉 hehe [14:18:33] Evil. [14:24:11] i feel so miraheze [14:24:27] :miraheze: [14:25:26] how do I set a background image for my wiki [14:26:35] CSS, although Cosmos skin offers setting for that [14:26:36] I'm feelin' miraheze. Time to spend 8 hours coding!!! [14:26:59] And raging cause my code doesn't work then suddenly it works and I have no idea how so I just leave it at that. [14:28:14] :thumbsup: [14:28:49] Happens to you too, Pix? [14:29:01] I’m a software developer [14:29:11] So all the times? [14:29:23] This was LITERALLY ME Friday night [14:29:49] I was at my desktop until 11 doing dev work and chatting with friends on discord to unwind [14:30:01] 🤝 [14:30:02] I started with working in a JS gadget, was not working [14:30:04] My man. [14:30:08] So I moved on to another project [14:30:14] Happy I did, that other one was fun [14:30:48] I was taking my very unfinished other project where I was focused on staying clean and proper and gutted it to make a template for future projects [14:34:15] Glad to hear. [14:34:33] I raged so hard yesterday, I went outside. Drank tea. Then listened to Legroom's advice and fixed my problem. [14:34:45] Real [14:34:51] Love it when you look everywhere except the obvious place you didn't look. [14:35:04] slams desk [14:35:07] I looked everywhere for my problem but I didn't look at the most obvious place. [14:35:11] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1348295705810305127 🙏 [14:35:12] so can you do everything with CSS [14:35:28] Today I’m gonna go through some school work, and do some Wikipedia-ing [14:35:37] [1/6] 'how do you do x' [14:35:37] [2/6] 'css' [14:35:38] [3/6] 'how do you change y' [14:35:38] [4/6] 'css' [14:35:38] [5/6] 'how do you adjust z' [14:35:39] [6/6] 'css' [14:35:48] My goal for today is to add a history section to [[w:Maple taffy]] [14:35:48] [14:35:51] I'm gonna go set up 20+ articles for my wiki and then go to sleep. [14:36:06] Maple taffy?! [14:36:12] Yup! [14:36:14] Yes. [14:36:15] Do you have a source for it [14:36:16] It’s really neat [14:36:24] yea 🗣️ [14:36:25] Is it tasty? [14:36:36] Basically, you boil maple sap past during into syrup, and pour it over clean snow [14:36:51] Never had, I learned about it yesterday watching a stream from an art [14:36:56] brazil doesn't even have snow how do you know this info [14:37:07] One or two, asking around to get a second opinion on reliability [14:37:08] anyways some guy managed to fix my unfixable stamina system [14:37:12] Clearly we both need a trip to Canada. [14:37:21] 😂 [14:37:28] Hey, we have it at the very bottom [14:37:31] Y'know there's a con in NYC... [14:37:39] I'm tempted. But I'm currently broke. [14:37:49] 2 people live in far southern rio del sur [14:37:55] Only 8 hour drive to Quebec here [14:37:56] it's because it's uruguyans [14:37:59] 💔 [14:38:04] Real [14:38:10] I live in the US currently though [14:38:19] Damn. [14:38:22] minnesota? [14:38:30] For me it's an 14 hour flight. [14:38:34] Give or take. [14:38:40] Also cost like 8 grand for a ticket. [14:38:59] i'm sorry what [14:39:06] eigty benjamins [14:39:07] I'm all the way from Vietnam. [14:39:14] Flight is expensive. [14:39:19] VIETNAMESE!!!! [14:39:27] 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 🇻🇳 [14:39:32] Yes sir. [14:39:32] xin chào [14:39:40] Yes. Hi. [14:39:41] https://tenor.com/view/new-jersey-walter-white-amogus-gif-21243299 [14:39:51] New Jersey shouldn't exist [14:40:05] Does that mean you gonna attend the con in NYC? [14:40:15] NJ is near NY, right? [14:40:30] What con [14:40:43] Wiki con. [14:42:04] Wikiconference North America? [14:42:10] Fuck yeah? [14:42:25] I’m a member of Wikimedia NYC after all [14:42:46] Maybe I should fly there... [14:43:01] Should be pretty cool [14:43:11] We got the venue confirmed at the last salon [14:43:21] Also, going to the city Wednesday for wiki [14:43:28] It’s Wikigala fashion show! [14:45:33] Let me check with my government if I can get an immunity visa. And maybe the taxpayer paid ticket to NYC. [14:46:37] Sounds promising 😄 [14:47:00] I believe we do offer scholarships [14:47:18] You never know! They paid my travel fees to attend anime con in L.A back in 2023 once. [14:47:27] https://wikiconference.org/wiki/2025/Attendance/Scholarships [14:47:49] Unfortunately I'm a government employee in Vietnam so I still require actual permission to travel. [14:47:57] Ag [14:59:25] I'm going to enjoy the warm 🌞 and clear 🔵 sky [14:59:33] Laters [15:00:17] [1/2] am i doing good [15:00:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348309422941671495/image.png?ex=67cefe80&is=67cdad00&hm=1db9a1c71c7d33d9e365e9ec9ef5f0cca2234662df0cffd619ada5b3fc437c18& [15:21:30] i feel like my wiki is going to be declined 😭 [15:28:13] I don’t see any reason to decline [15:28:35] idk? lack of context or maybe the horror? [15:29:28] Context was lacking, we asked, you gave it [15:29:33] And we won’t decline on horror [15:29:58] You'd be fine. [15:30:26] well alr then :3 :miraheze: [15:38:30] I decline Everything by default 😂 [15:39:25] Lucky for you it's JPH2 that reviews your wiki 😉 [15:39:36] He's much kinder than me 😄 [15:39:55] ooo thats good ig [15:40:31] Just be patient. Not sure when he's online. [15:40:56] alr [15:41:05] But you'll get a notification and/or email (according to your settings) [15:41:18] k [15:44:16] if this message gets 3 🧫 reactions then im putting ፨ in my display [15:44:58] No volunteers only >:((((( [17:21:23] How do i make an user admin [17:21:34] I need an answer quick because i'm in a hurry [17:23:15] Special:UserRights [17:23:23] Thanks you :D [17:23:41] yw 🙂 [18:08:26] [1/2] snow [18:08:26] [2/2] whats snow? never seen before [18:08:49] [1/2] ^^^^ [18:08:50] [2/2] This user is from close to equator [18:15:44] <.galareta, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Nope. [18:16:06] did size change helped? [18:16:36] <.galareta> Negative. [18:16:42] <.galareta> Pretty weird. [18:42:31] :ThinkerMH: [18:44:49] [1/2] how do I make upload file link to Special:Upload and not Special:UploadWizard [18:44:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348365930131886251/image.png?ex=67cf3321&is=67cde1a1&hm=669538f26d70337ee47a578f87366b3639568b0bd8b6310f487d93309c597885& [18:46:10] I hate to ask this again but what are some easy alternatives to Fandom’s forum service? Preferably something easier to set up and manage? [19:10:12] I don’t know. The only proper forum extension was disabled/removed due to a security issue and the extension also appears to be abandoned. [19:10:16] Unfortunately the main candidate extensions to replace that type of service were disabled from security issues, yes. [19:10:37] And there have been no updates to the extensions in ages! [19:11:17] There were some patches earlier this year actually, but it didn't get past security review [19:11:46] Hopefully it is resolved soon. AllTheTropes has been without a forum for a few years now! [19:17:16] i dont want my wiki to be accepted tommorow on a monday 😭 [19:17:28] i dont want to wait in school [19:38:06] IT GOT APPROVED [19:38:09] LETS GO [19:38:43] for some reason my css seems to have the cursor displaced by several characters when editing [19:38:54] https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-celebration-gi-hun-gif-13363209825821116414 [19:40:00] [1/2] i think disabling that extension works for that [19:40:00] [2/2] (for me that wizard doesnt work like at all) [19:53:31] I disabled it but now it just sends me to an invalid page [19:56:49] I can suggest my "bootleg solution" w/ DiscussionTools, but also Labster been looking into resurrecting WikiForum (no ETA) [19:59:27] welp [20:02:28] time to crashout figuring out basic wikipedia writing stuff [20:02:37] Good luck! [20:02:49] Fastest way to learn is to do, enjoy yourself. [20:05:24] I found this wiki and I think it might be a wikipedia fork or something https://ysmwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8 [20:16:24] ok how do i add color to text [20:16:37] i wanna color a word [20:17:53] I'll look [20:19:29] you can change, for example, the colour of all text on pages under a certain category with commons.css, or you can change the colour of all text on a page with a special css subpage, but to just change a single word, I don't know if that's possible - but if you find a way, please let me know!! [20:21:22] Yeah, looks like it, but is private. But it is closed too, due to no activity, and will likely be deleted automatically within 6 months. See [[dormancy policy]] [20:21:23] [20:22:14] well alr [20:22:26] (i dont even know what css is) [20:22:52] is it some kind of theme u download and put it in? [20:29:56] oh my god i cant even add a image 💔 [20:35:41] The banner is likely misleading, and could have been closed by the Stewards. I have reported it though. Thanks for your sharp eye 🫡 [20:36:08] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348393943787765982/image.png?ex=67cf4d38&is=67cdfbb8&hm=4cdf8e7030dbdea465bc3966b77e5ba7b1aa41f816ccd36d5b5d94ea4afd148a& [20:36:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348393943997349990/image.png?ex=67cf4d38&is=67cdfbb8&hm=0c39a411e5b32d93446264c5df38c8489700c9562ecc716fb109384ac2dbd897& [20:37:09] you cannot add this as background like this [20:37:15] no; css stands for cascading style sheets. It's the way you change the way the wiki looks [20:37:39] oh yea that [20:37:43] i saw it before [20:37:52] eveyrthing about the way your wiki looks is controlled by css; if you go to commons.css on your wiki, yoou can change it/add stuff! [20:38:15] cool i will check it later [20:39:03] i dont wanna add a background [20:39:06] just a image [20:40:09] you can also change the theme of your wiki, yes, but there's no downlaoding involved - there are themes already there, you just have to choose one! [20:40:09] Oh, sorry, I mixed things with another user 😄 [20:40:47] Use [Special:Upload] to upload the image [20:41:10] You need to have it on your device first [20:41:43] it is on my files? [20:45:05] Then click on the link in the menu - "Upload file" [20:45:38] [1/4] if you've uploaded it, yes! [20:45:38] [2/4] Step one: Put the image you want to upload on your device (e.g. download it from the internet - make sure you own the rights to the image, or that it's allowed to be used by anyone!) [20:45:38] [3/4] Step Two: Upload it to your wiki using the link the librarian said (just put 'Special:Upload' in your search bar and you'll find it!) [20:45:39] [4/4] Step Three: Once it's uploaded, put it on a page by linking to it, like this - "[[File:filename.fileextension|sizepx|alt=image ID here|caption here]] [20:46:11] ooo [20:47:35] [1/2] this? [20:47:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348396825375281213/image.png?ex=67cf4fe7&is=67cdfe67&hm=708f1f2bf4a752066328dfe4ee6524c1f4abb0f4f6fbff1541ad05d7f76f0078& [20:48:18] [1/3] the way you link to things that are on your wiki, like wiki pages (or in this case, inserting a file) is by using double square brackets around the name of the thing. But you can also use those little horizontal bars to change the "parameters"! With an image, the parameters are things like the size, padding, alt ID, and caption. With page links, you [20:48:18] [2/3] can use those horizontal bars to link to a page but display different text - for example, if you have a page on your wiki called "Hello" that you want to link to, but you want the text to just read "hi", you can put "[[Hello|hi]]"! [20:48:18] [3/3] You do not have to fill in every parameter (: [20:48:22] yep, that's the one! [20:48:59] i guess i did that?.. [20:49:04] [1/2] ```[[File:Do they remember me, do they think im dead?, I may never find out since I have never reached near escape.png|760px|thumb|alt=I wanna come back and see them :(|I miss them]] [20:49:04] [2/2] ``` [20:49:09] oh, that page has instructions for you anyway at the top! That's more guide that I can do in terms of parameters! [20:49:18] oh [20:49:30] yeah, that's good! Well done! [20:49:38] is it not showing up? [20:50:00] nope [20:50:05] just a weird box [20:51:53] make sure you've spelled the file name right - that one is really quite long, so it's hard to check, which is why people tend to use shorter names. Other than that I'm not sure - mind sending me a link? [20:52:24] (to the page, to be clear) [20:52:54] alr [20:53:33] https://mdo.miraheze.org/wiki/Level_0 [20:54:52] okay, I think I see the problem - you've done ".png" twice! Unless that's literally part of the name of your file (which I'm not sure is possible but I'm not so good at this stuff), that should be deleted! [20:54:52] oopsies [20:55:03] oh mb [20:55:27] oopsies cuz i wrote i was using i was travelling 😭 [20:56:16] im still with the box [20:56:35] ahhh [20:56:38] yeah, that would do it! [20:57:17] what are these errors im commiting 😭 [20:57:19] I would also highly recommend using a shorter filename, but, that is your decision [20:57:22] oh no [20:57:27] what are you typing [20:57:34] it was a gramatical error [20:57:35] what have you done! [20:57:44] i accidentaly wrote im still with the box 😭 [20:57:48] I disabled upload wizard extension but upload file still sends me there instead of Special:Upload just now it sends me to an invalid page [20:57:58] i didnt know [20:58:14] Can be the cache. Try purging the page [20:58:16] no worries; it just makes it easier to use files, in my experience! [20:59:15] still showing upload wizard [21:00:11] What is your wiki? [21:00:41] Use: `[[mh:yoursubdomain:]]` [21:01:13] Or use `/verify` to send full url [21:01:40] https://overborne.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:02:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348400481138901032/image.png?ex=67cf534e&is=67ce01ce&hm=857e3d4591bc694b7a30bed6c92f95b993706b2e6bb14d3fc1eab03bcc5c0a07& [21:03:06] It has changed. It's just the cache Use `?action=purge` at the end of the link [21:03:23] alright [21:03:38] [1/2] i changed it to a shorter name and nothing [21:03:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348400865278558332/image.png?ex=67cf53aa&is=67ce022a&hm=934ac5dc9efcdd7d230568077a508d293a75ed86aa3555cdd801401d40e5fff3& [21:04:03] The file you upload has to be the same name too [21:04:50] it still sends me to upload wizard and in ur screen shot it says upload wizard at the bottom of the screen [21:06:18] [1/2] it does? [21:06:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348401536023396372/image.png?ex=67cf544a&is=67ce02ca&hm=3ea963038911c95e81678363da7fcf893fbe7fe19ba9b119488be585382b6b6d& [21:06:28] and why doesnt it have a image in 😭 [21:06:36] i swore i put in a image there [21:06:48] You need to choose the file above in the button [21:07:01] Ah yes, I missed that [21:07:06] Weird [21:07:08] it says 'no file chosen' - you have to upload the file! [21:07:40] [1/2] So I'm trying to create div container with an image background, but for some reason it keeps stretching the image horizontally and cutting it off vertically. (The image is 600px wide by 200px high, I adjusted div dimensions just to see if I could 'squish' it back into shape, but it seems to be stuck in a sort of 500px wide by 400px high) [21:07:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348401879733895230/image.png?ex=67cf549c&is=67ce031c&hm=03ffb6d7a3988dc16dc5787363f1172ccf2de2225febecb9439699c22eaa5ed4& [21:09:57] [1/3] Try adding it via [[mh:overborne:MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [21:09:58] [2/3] Add [21:09:58] [3/3] `* Special:Upload | Upload` [21:09:58] [21:10:17] i know it's stupid question but is it possible to connect special:chat to discord [21:10:50] doubt [21:10:53] [1/2] I DID IT (pls make the save buttons bigger) [21:10:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348402688613810322/image.png?ex=67cf555d&is=67ce03dd&hm=1c2b2a4dac5a4dba4e4212ea8e83244a5423825127a3a7c9ee15e92f99da0213& [21:12:31] its special:upload now thanks [21:13:12] hell yeah, well done!!! [21:14:24] Now use: `[[File:I miss them.png|Do they remember me, do they think _im_dead?,_I_may_never_find_out_since_I_have_never_reached_near_escape.png|760px|thumb|center]]` [21:15:43] hey folks, newb question. Is there a way to add directions/instructions/helping text in pageforms in a form like how template data has description of the parameters to help users in VE? I saw that there is this description thing, but its not working for me. [21:15:47] the file Do they remember me, do they think _im_dead?,_I_may_never_find_out_since_I_have_never_reached_near_escape.png was deleted and replaced by a file just called i miss them [21:16:21] Please check the code. It does say that [21:16:45] oh [21:17:02] I changed it so it's more clear [21:18:54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor [21:22:11] It's best to add `* w:Help:VisualEditor | VE-help` in your [Mediawiki:Sidebar] [21:22:27] Im curious if that functionality is available in a Form, I know VE does it [21:22:41] Then your users can always find the help there [21:23:10] Erm... Pass 😄 I never once used it myself - (I hate it with a passion) [21:23:38] I have always used the Source editor [21:23:40] you hate pageforms? oh no, am i using something hard? im totally new to this wiki thing [21:25:13] ah. yeah its easier for me to use the source editor too, but not all my friends who will be helping me with this are comfy. thanks tho 🙂 [21:27:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [21:29:30] that was my first go to. but im realizing i need more functionality than what that can offer. [21:29:42] [1/2] Sorry, wrong link: [21:29:42] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms/Quick_start_guide [21:30:20] You likely need Cargo and/or SMW enabled [21:30:24] i have SMW [21:31:28] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms/Quick_start_guide#Quick_reference_guides [21:31:28] [2/2] You can add a guide to your wiki from here [21:31:41] Does textreplace have a limit of 974 pages? [21:32:43] Now that is a good question... ermm... [searching] 🕵️ [21:33:10] Sorry ReplaceText [21:33:57] Why you ask? [21:35:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text#Things_to_know [21:35:03] Because I really messed something up and tried to replace it with ReplaceText and it showed 2000 results but said it would replace 974 pages [21:35:53] Can you do it in batches? [21:36:37] Totally just a bit annoying [21:38:31] If it's saying that, I'd assume it's limited for a reason [21:38:53] MassEditRegex is another option but if you've got replace text working then I'd suggest just batch it [21:39:49] The Extension page says that it is limited by php to 250 pages. So we have a wider range than standard? [21:40:55] It also says you can set it to 3000 pages. But that has to be done on our end I guess [21:40:55] It looks that way [21:41:23] wgReplaceTextResultsLimit has a commit like it's been added to ManageWiki but GitHub search doesn't think it's still there for me [21:42:08] If it says 974, I'm inclined to trust that's the limit currently set [21:43:05] [1/2] `Stewards and Wiki Mechanics: This extension should NOT be enabled on wikis created before 12 May 2024 without consulting the Technology Team first` [21:43:05] [2/2] Oh Booooo. Mine was made in January 2024 😛 Booooo [21:44:07] ReplaceText is much better than MassReplaceRegex but I use both for different tasks. [21:52:26] [1/4] 🟢 For those of you interested: [21:52:26] [2/4] I'd like feedback from you on the use of AI generated content. [21:52:26] [3/4] NotAracham has already contributed. [21:52:27] [4/4] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#📝_Request_for_Feedback_─_AI-generated_content [22:00:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1348415123613548574/image.png?ex=67cf60f1&is=67ce0f71&hm=f50396afbe0e01c6fa1b418a81c9cd81078424ac588047ade04222849a03b771& [22:06:39] Yeah, the size is too big [22:06:48] Set it to 300px [22:06:55] i just changed it to 360 [22:07:03] 👍🏻 [22:07:12] but theres no way it was that big [22:07:47] [1/2] Thumb can be used to automatically size it. [22:07:48] [2/2] The size is determined in your preferences [22:08:13] Then "`|360px`" isn't needed [22:08:48] It does put a box around the image though [22:09:14] 760px is really big for a wiki [22:09:26] It covers the whole page [22:10:03] oh [22:34:30] Oh, discussion on GenAI, yeah, that's probably something I'm willing to add to [23:02:39] does miraheze have any customization policy ? [23:03:09] Frisk: Input on that topic is definitely appreciated, I already gave my Steward/Board/T&S-hat inputs based on my current thoughts. [23:03:38] In what context? Like what's disallowed from doing to your wiki? [23:03:43] yeah [23:03:51] just kinda finished my first page [23:05:08] i should try css now ig [23:05:13] how do i get it [23:05:19] wdym [23:05:40] [1/5] rRegarding limits on customization I mean, pretty much use common sense: [23:05:40] [2/5] * You have to follow [[Content Policy]], no exceptions [23:05:40] [3/5] * You shouldn't add third-party tracking software beyond what's already supported (Matomo, Google Search Console) [23:05:41] [4/5] * Don't do crappy stuff to your users with Javascript [23:05:41] [5/5] * Don't direct to malicious sites/downloads [23:05:41] [23:05:43] bro i dont know stuff about css or wiki making rlly in general [23:05:48] im assuming yk what css is [23:05:50] like [23:05:57] that thing to customize pages [23:06:37] Yeah, GenAI is a topic I have _opinions_ on. I've given it a lot of thought, I really wanted to use it, but I don't believe majority of today's GenAI can be used ethically due to some concerns. I'll try to get my comment in there when I have more time ^^ [23:06:38] [1/2] That's not a comprehensive list, but if you have questions, feel free to ask. [23:06:38] [2/2] Oh, don't add third-party adverts, either. [23:06:49] is the "Wikis must be organized around a coherent theme with discernible standards." part about wikis that have topic or smth [23:07:10] so like anything than that is allowed? [23:07:50] Again, list above isn't comprehensive, humans are very inventive and may come up with something I haven't seen/thought of. if you have a more specific question, I can give a more specific answer. [23:08:17] For example, don't make a strobe-y background? [23:08:53] what does strobe-y mean? [23:09:04] Like alternating flashes like a strobe light. [23:09:33] That's the sort of thing that could get you a stern warning and possibly booted if you're trying to trigger an epileptic seizure. [23:09:39] flashing lights? [23:10:46] Can you archive my wiki for me? [23:11:42] [1/5] Mediawiki.org has a good amount of helpful content to get you started, [23:11:43] [2/5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CSS [23:11:43] [3/5] If you want to have more examples of all of the different things CSS can do, w3schools is a very helpful resource: [23:11:43] [4/5] https://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp [23:11:44] [5/5] And if you find a wiki that's doing cool stuff and want to look at how they did it, most of the time it can be found at the page MediaWiki:Common.css for that wiki [23:12:02] Be warned, it's a serious deep-end to dive into, so try to start with one small thing at a time [23:12:17] alr [23:12:22] wish me luck [23:12:53] [1/2] fandom is stricter when it comes to customization tbh [23:12:53] [2/2] love being freely to edit anything i'd like in a wiki [23:13:35] yea [23:13:53] but fandom lagged at me changing the color of the wiki [23:14:11] This is also true here - changes in common.css can take a bit to show up. [23:14:31] but you can bypass your cache [23:14:32] If you want to have something that changes faster for testing, you can modify your personal custom CSS under preferences > appearance [23:14:57] Changes there don't get stuck behind server cache as much and will show up fairly quickly. [23:15:24] [1/15] ``` [23:15:25] [2/15] [23:15:25] [3/15]