[00:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> if mediawiki is gone then wikipedia is gone
[00:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alexbnt> I just meant that I hadn't hit "save page" yet on the initial creation of a page
[00:00:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> then no more free access to all of human knowledge
[00:00:33] <BlankEclair>	 dw we have the phase II software
[00:00:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to alexbnt> If you ever get an error while trying to save a page, just refresh when the server is back online and it should save correctly
[00:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> well, wikidata is also kind of all human knowledge
[00:00:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> hello
[00:01:02] <BlankEclair>	 meow
[00:01:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> just a question
[00:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> where do i go for stuff about accounts
[00:01:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> i dont know if i should go to the support channel
[00:01:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> is there a computing limit to how much pages a mediawiki powered wiki can have
[00:02:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2, replying to themeatly2_> depends what the issue is
[00:02:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_, replying to dgox2> i lost my passowrd and i dont know what the email is for the account
[00:02:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> that’s quite bad
[00:02:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> There really is no recovery for that unfortunately
[00:03:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> personally i would say thats a bit of a skill issue but realistically just make a new account
[00:03:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> [[wikidata:Q86579784]] what is this
[00:03:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikidata:Q86579784?action=edit&redlink=1>
[00:03:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> whoops
[00:03:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to dgox2> Indeed
[00:03:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q86579784 what is this
[00:03:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_, replying to dgox2> can i get it deleted atleast
[00:03:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> like the old account
[00:03:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> why
[00:03:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> because
[00:04:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> and probably not
[00:04:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_> i wanna use the same name
[00:04:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <themeatly2_, replying to dgox2> ok
[00:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> No, you can’t delete it, sorry
[00:07:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> You can try to usurp the username (steal it) but the process takes time
[00:11:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> have yall ever seen a wiki with it's main page as just being one template
[00:14:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> ... well, mine right now, i cant get templates to work.  lol
[00:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> ok, it's gone 1am, i'm gonna try again tomorrow, i can't see myself managing anything productive now.  but if anyone has any ideas, my issues are posted around 30 mins before this message.  i'll pick up replies after 8 hrs down time. - appreciate any help thrown my way, i'm starting to devise a roadmap forward.
[01:59:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> I hate the big ass donation pop up in WP
[03:07:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to agentisai> Please tell me that’s purely a reference hypothetical
[03:10:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I’ve been at a musical so I sincerely hope we didn’t have db141 V2
[03:11:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> Why does my newly imported Wiki look so wrong?
[03:12:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> None of the templates loaded at all, and..."Lua coding error"???
[03:13:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> Also it downloaded from Fandom as a 7z, which I can't open on a Mac, so I used an in-browser application to un-zip the compressed file, before uploading it.
[03:14:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> AND, Miraheze website never told me "congratulations! your import was a success!" but instead just gave me multiple 504 errors.
[03:14:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> But the thing is, is that, SOME of the infomation has been moved over, just...not sure if I did this correctly.
[03:15:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1358277303041261568
[03:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to emicraftnoob> [1/2] same
[03:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to emicraftnoob> [2/2] i literally don't want to donate leave me alone
[03:43:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym, replying to 7101334> yeah, I wanna sob, too
[03:47:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> mine is so so broken
[03:48:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358287260617019613/Screen_Shot_2025-04-05_at_8.48.10_PM.png?ex=67f34b16&is=67f1f996&hm=9d5b1f88ab9df1440de37ddce7aab1324ffff337f74d6fa30291c92f589a1a5f&
[03:48:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> Anybody who wants to gain an instant headache, I have the solution!
[03:49:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> well have you purged
[03:49:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> yes
[03:49:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I think like almost 20 times
[03:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> hm
[03:50:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I'm clearly not great at this kind of stuff, but I am really good at some other things, OK?
[03:50:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I'm so so sorry.
[03:51:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to agentisai> can that happen?
[03:53:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to mtaffym> Do you have PortableInfobox enabled?
[03:53:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I thought so
[03:53:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to mtaffym> check to make sure
[03:53:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> and waited and pressed purge
[03:53:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian> in extensions
[03:54:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [1/2] yes, it still says checked
[03:54:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358288845036060906/Screen_Shot_2025-04-05_at_8.54.50_PM.png?ex=67f34c90&is=67f1fb10&hm=302cc92246c45cc3936c95337f40272ef3fdef5436e3c9bfedb093c65a70fef2&
[04:04:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> What does the "purge" button actually do?
[04:06:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358291692339466412/Screen_Shot_2025-04-05_at_9.05.20_PM.png?ex=67f34f37&is=67f1fdb7&hm=d56ba6ef1b9b257f680cba2f3d57423c2c0654089731a3f1bdb5a18aeea24fa5&
[04:06:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> "Lua error":(
[04:52:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to mtaffym> Delete the cache of the page, sometimes lol
[04:54:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamewatch21> [1/2] Uh, im sorry if i ask the wrong channel cause i dont think i should send this on support page
[04:54:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamewatch21> [2/2] But is it actually possible to make dark mode on vector 2022 as default for visitor?
[04:54:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamewatch21> Cause i think i've seen that settings somewhere on special page
[04:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamewatch21> but i might be trippin
[06:13:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym, replying to emicraftnoob> OK, I'll try that!
[06:32:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to mtaffym> [1/2] a) you enabled PortableInfobox extension?
[06:32:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to mtaffym> [2/2] b) make a small edit, like add a space break inside noinclude tag or remove a line break, purge doesn't always work
[07:17:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> [1/4] have you tried running the infobox thru a template?  i.e.
[07:17:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> [2/4] Create a page called "template:CharacterInfobox"
[07:17:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> [3/4] Put something like this in the source editor:
[07:17:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358339899190804530/image.png?ex=67f37c1c&is=67f22a9c&hm=8349aa1515c5865597f55cfbf3525a2ea08c7a140622db63f9ef9015157f8b42&
[07:18:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> obviously adapted to your needs.
[07:18:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> but they do have an infobox set up
[07:19:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [1/2] then call it like this in your actual page:
[07:19:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358340258181414983/image.png?ex=67f37c72&is=67f22af2&hm=38d5c0a48e64d6928487d44eb9a330e339cdc059e9c9b7ae39135d48b1409fac&
[07:19:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to snowstacked> looking at the code above, it looks like they're coding the infobox directly into the wiki entry, this is a secondary approach which worked for me where the infobox is coded into the template, and called from the wiki page.
[07:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [1/2] my output ends up looking like this:
[07:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358340592639410217/image.png?ex=67f37cc2&is=67f22b42&hm=d4736bc473662050ad8321cf1ea009b914f55d63082f5ba6cfec125f4ea5093a&
[07:22:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I tried both and it still is not working
[07:22:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Question from myself tho, as morning and coffee have provided clarity.  anyone got an example of TemplateStyle working that i can examine to learn from?  I've just pinched someoen's entire CSS file so now i've got an instruction set to work with for the overall site setup, now if i can see a template style in action, i can learn from that too please?
[07:25:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358341762325811280/Screen_Shot_2025-04-06_at_12.24.50_AM.png?ex=67f37dd8&is=67f22c58&hm=6a954092e8ebe2a37d06c992565cfdfcfff229e8b03d794833d8d3ad424a0ff8&
[07:25:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I have this but not sure if that's the same thing
[07:26:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [1/2] this is insane
[07:26:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358342187917508638/Screen_Shot_2025-04-06_at_12.26.44_AM.png?ex=67f37e3e&is=67f22cbe&hm=3b86ae1b5697da0bbf9fc358438e9905c9b10192c497b05071596a785af15784&
[07:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> [1/3] woke up, applied coffee, applied the lessons of Coding 201, i've spent too long being at the top of the curve in my area, forgot the basic rules of learning something new in coding.  
[07:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> [2/3] find something someone else has done, read it thru, work out how they did it, build from there...  So i just copied someone elses' CSS and now i don't have to learn the entire instruction set from scratch, just play and apply the instruciton set in small components to my wiki whilst i work out how to get what i need.  and MASSIVE kudos to the guy who runs softc
[07:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> [3/3] ell, thank you for adding comments into your CSS file!!
[07:27:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> it looks like you've got the parts the wrong way round i think
[07:28:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> why did it import backwards, then?
[07:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> shrugs pass, i'm just a code monkey tryna learn a new language here.
[07:28:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> buy my template:character file looks like this:
[07:28:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358342694669254716/image.png?ex=67f37eb7&is=67f22d37&hm=a557fecf2d6935bd4c2d87ca4a7f2cb9176115e37c09e3791d1af118aaff2655&
[07:29:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> in the edit source yours looks like the call?
[07:30:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to mtaffym> go to this, press edit source, and screenshot that for me please?
[07:30:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> I'll be a sec, just applying more coffee
[07:30:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> https://spyro-legends-of-truth.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Character
[07:31:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> I have this from an old fandom wiki
[07:31:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [1/2] for some reason it's putting this stuff here
[07:31:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358343323735162971/Screen_Shot_2025-04-06_at_12.31.12_AM.png?ex=67f37f4d&is=67f22dcd&hm=9c0ab1e57180cf067855d79a31692eaed363d27fcfa833bf8912c1b3d809011c&
[07:31:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mtaffym> the lines of...whichever coding language that is (html?)
[07:38:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> codeing is just telling a PC what to do, you're probably better than you think, but you're talking french to a japanse computer. we'll get you thu this.
[07:40:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> I had to learn this about 2 weeks ago, so it's still fresh, unles a mod wants to come slap me for it, i'm gonna see if i can make a thread and talk you thru it there, just because it's gonna make a lot of noise in this channel if we do it here.  so hang on a mo...
[08:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> [1/4] Heyo, Fisch wiki is down, getting the following:
[08:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> [2/4] ```
[08:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> [3/4] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp37 at Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:17:45 GMT
[08:18:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> [4/4] ```
[08:19:17] <RhinosF1>	 Yup
[08:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> #tech-ops does not look good, oh my
[08:22:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> wait is the whole website down?
[08:22:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> cuz I'm getting the same error
[08:22:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> on my own wiki
[08:22:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> yes
[08:22:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> on it
[08:22:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> everything everwhere fell over
[08:23:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Rhino's off grabbing more hamster food for the farm i guess.
[08:29:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to rhinosf1> turned it off, then back on again?
[08:30:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Thank you for your support, it's very much appreciated.
[08:30:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> not quite yet
[08:30:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <landongoncrazy> how long will it be down forir
[08:30:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> got to turn it off before i can turn it on
[08:30:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> hoping a clean turn on works
[08:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> it's shocking how often it does work.
[08:31:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> You wouldn't restart a server
[08:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> i'd restart the universe if i thought it'd clean up some of the messes
[08:32:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> server's just another PC, it can be rebooted like everything else.
[08:33:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> hell, i've seen a cleaner unplug a company's phone server just to hoover the server room before... that was a fun weekend
[08:34:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> miraheze went down
[08:34:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> Bahaha, should pay the cleaner more and give them a new job title of "Maintenance Expert"
[08:34:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1, replying to prabhasxd> people are aware and on it
[08:35:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> Windows users who don't regularly reboot their devices scare me, ngl
[08:35:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45, replying to asko1> ...
[08:35:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> boo
[08:35:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> still editing a page
[08:35:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> good thing i didnt save my edits
[08:36:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> funnies thing was, i wasn't even tech support for the company, he was an hour away, calling from his car, and the site manager just pulled the most technically capable person he could think of, i ended up taking the call, and working out what happened.  learnt more than a few new swear words that day. didn't realise he could swear in that many languages
[08:39:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> still says on mine "undergoing maintainance"
[08:40:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to asko1> i did
[08:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <javiadev, replying to johnnyjj45> mine too
[08:40:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <skyrkazm> The Fisch wiki is also uhhh, kinda bugged atm
[08:40:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> give it a sec
[08:40:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <javiadev> i've had for like 15 mins now
[08:41:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <javiadev> or 20 mins
[08:41:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <javiadev> FINALLY
[08:41:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yekkorr> @rhinosf1
[08:41:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yekkorr> ty for fixin
[08:41:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to johnnyjj45> now it's back
[08:41:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yekkorr> ty vro
[08:42:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> [1/2] uh
[08:42:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358361150428811315/IMG_1210.png?ex=67f38fe7&is=67f23e67&hm=96a32d8031d969a72bd43f0a2030127d60c39b924ddf7e29e29ae2b2ca5f87df&
[08:43:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <skyrkazm> Fisch wikis coming back bit by bit
[08:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <skyrkazm> I searched and now it's beginning to look normal again
[08:44:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1, replying to dgox2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358361634854408212/1zxh3EE.png?ex=67f3905a&is=67f23eda&hm=31da3af7cc8fe44d08da866e4981aeca14b5e38b9d3928da8181c39d6ee08b94&
[08:44:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> hmm
[08:44:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358361722234343445/image.png?ex=67f3906f&is=67f23eef&hm=bee691ad41b69ca4ec96e13be819b0d0bfc749e22023f59620b7aebe35a5a9df&
[08:44:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> 502
[08:44:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> 503 actually
[08:44:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358361813271449600/image.png?ex=67f39085&is=67f23f05&hm=03b14c220208e288566e044bda0f1c55b338c6387a418b7fde96f7def2a4187b&
[08:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> [1/2] how long does it take for the Portable Infobox Builder to load?
[08:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358361826722840736/image.png?ex=67f39088&is=67f23f08&hm=d337e88b461889dc95087a0dfbafe02862038bbe2b079a7452688d66d67ed20c&
[08:45:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> hmm
[08:45:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> more restarts? 😃
[08:45:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to dgox2> loads fine for me
[08:45:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> try https://fischipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=ext.CookieWarning.styles%7Cext.DarkMode.styles%7Cext.MobileDetect.nomobile%7Cext.embedVideo.styles%7Cmediawiki.widgets.styles%7Coojs-ui-core.icons%2Cstyles%7Coojs-ui.styles.indicators%7Cskins.timeless&only=styles&skin=timeless
[08:45:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <johnnyjj45, replying to johnnyjj45> oh wait, I just refreshed
[08:45:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358362089822883840/image.png?ex=67f390c7&is=67f23f47&hm=32c557c70440596904de4f87930fa80f8624aa4b435961f6be2354cbbbd49f2a&
[08:46:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> oop
[08:46:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> its back
[08:46:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> 🎉
[08:46:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> loads fine now
[08:46:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> [1/2] erm is this just fisch wiki being fisch wiki
[08:46:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358362327019163788/image.png?ex=67f390ff&is=67f23f7f&hm=eddd9273bb212ddd10feafb71eff802f97fc81fadcad8027e87394aebb328906&
[08:46:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> i have a theory
[08:46:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> guess some parts were a bit slow to "come out of maintenance"
[08:47:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1, replying to dgox2> yes
[08:47:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> right
[08:47:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> mobile is a bit uh
[08:47:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> like that
[08:47:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> rightt
[08:48:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> i believe we were caching load.php
[08:48:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> and cached the 5XX
[08:48:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I've fixed that
[08:53:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> oop
[08:53:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> down
[08:55:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nexora45> [1/2] ?
[08:55:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nexora45> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358364421457449062/Screenshot_2025_0406_143958.jpg?ex=67f392f3&is=67f24173&hm=c074ebf7ffa2aeb9ab7cc61457f52acb376c543602047342c03a6b5a2e486f08&
[08:55:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358364424611692745/IMG_2945.png?ex=67f392f4&is=67f24174&hm=290e5ef2aee3cbb8f9d86ab83463597dfe17e54ca7ade91b9d1d7e6c45facf59&
[08:55:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> back
[08:55:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere> https://tenor.com/view/panic-anime-shookt-shocked-gif-10583115
[08:55:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> i guess we play whack a db
[08:56:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> curious to know what causes this
[08:57:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> me too
[08:59:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to kamidere> back?
[09:04:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to rhinosf1> is it a demon, a dancing demon?   no. something isn't right there.
[09:06:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> Can we not
[09:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere, replying to rhinosf1> Yes
[09:08:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> sure, sorry, thought a small chuckle might alieviate some stress you're probably under.  not everyone thinks like me, so i'll rein in the humor now.
[09:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to kamidere> Yey
[09:09:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Touch wood before the other 2 databases crash
[09:09:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> I'm the only engineer online at the moment so pings kept to actual tech stuff please
[09:39:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> ok, well if it helps narrow things down, i just tried to upload an image, and got "something went wrong"'d
[09:49:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> not particularly no
[09:49:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> try again and see if it happens twice
[09:57:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> no, went thru clean the second time.
[10:05:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> Servers suck then is my answer
[10:06:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> CSS ain't much more fun.  i've now got a fragment of an image on the left hand side border, i cannot get anything on the right hand side border, and ideally i wanted it across the whole page.  none of this makes sense
[10:07:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> i'd rather be in a database right now than this 'artistic' stuff
[10:14:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You sound like me
[10:14:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There's a couple of CSS experts around if you open a #support thread
[10:15:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> can we have a miraheze version of interactive maps
[10:16:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> That is?
[10:18:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to rhinosf1> like fandoms interactive map
[10:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Is it an extension? Gadget?
[10:19:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] I have no idea
[10:19:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] Fandom doesn't open source their stuff iirc
[10:20:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> the Minecraft wiki has their version of it ( #could i possibly add mcw's interactive map into miraheze ) but I don't quite understand on how to add it
[10:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Oh ok
[10:23:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Hmm
[10:31:00] <Frisk>	 there is wiki.gg's extension available on Miraheze
[10:31:07] <Frisk>	 for advanced image maps
[10:31:24] <Frisk>	 Extension:DataMaps
[10:32:04] <Frisk>	 I'd say it's even more advanced than Fandom's map solution, though I think it still requires generating the data manually/with a script
[10:35:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> omg there's a datamaps version on a Miraheze wiki
[10:35:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> <https://ecopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:DataMaps.js/doc>
[12:01:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> are you supposed to enable {{filepath}} parser?
[12:01:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Filepath?action=edit&redlink=1>
[12:01:36] <BlankEclair>	 iirc filepath should be a built-in parser function?
[12:01:55] <BlankEclair>	 yep
[12:02:02] <BlankEclair>	 [[mw:help:magic words#filepath]]]
[12:02:08] <BlankEclair>	 [[mw:help:magic words#filepath]]
[12:02:12] <BlankEclair>	 bleh
[12:02:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> oh
[12:03:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] because idk what im doing lmao
[12:03:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358411694522499153/image.png?ex=67f3befa&is=67f26d7a&hm=0be5483c2286153ec71d954951ef2d6303a1169cf372eb74a23c915b06f83bbe&
[12:03:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> i dont want to make like a million classes with a different background image
[12:03:41] <BlankEclair>	 ah hmm, does it call {{#css}}?
[12:04:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> you mean if it works in {{#css}}?
[12:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> is Extension:ParserFunctions already preinstalled or do I have to make a request?
[12:05:04] <BlankEclair>	 no, i mean if Template:CSS calls it
[12:05:09] <BlankEclair>	 philimania: preinstalled on all wikis
[12:05:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> that i wouldnt know
[12:05:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> 👍
[12:05:21] <BlankEclair>	 linkie then?
[12:06:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> what
[12:07:30] <BlankEclair>	 link to the template? or wiki?
[12:07:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/User:PrabhasXD/Sandbox
[12:07:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> its on my sandbox
[12:07:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> wait i just undid it
[12:07:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> oops.
[12:11:02] <BlankEclair>	 https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/module:CSS#L-9
[12:11:09] <BlankEclair>	 no idea what uses data-css-hash
[12:12:05] <BlankEclair>	 prabhasxd: did you do the <nowiki /> as recommended by the template?
[12:12:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> oh wait
[12:12:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> no i didnt add it
[12:12:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> wait
[12:12:53] <BlankEclair>	 :3
[12:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> still doesnt work
[12:13:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [NOWAY](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1314751845771513908.webp?size=48&name=NOWAY)
[12:14:05] <BlankEclair>	 i have no idea how it works tbh
[12:14:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] isnt this it?????????
[12:14:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358414461316366409/image.png?ex=67f3c18d&is=67f2700d&hm=beeae437fb1acd31d6ac81e5a205195d46dc485c562f2cced59b1effbfa9742d&
[12:14:08] <BlankEclair>	 so you're on your own lol
[12:14:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked)
[12:14:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> 🤦
[12:14:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> |content=<nowiki>.icespice/nowiki}}
[12:14:52] <BlankEclair>	 nowiki-ing the entire thing would also take out filepath
[12:14:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> the entire thing surrounded by nowiki tag uh
[12:14:56] <BlankEclair>	 so you gotta close and reopen it
[12:15:04] <BlankEclair>	 what a poorly written module lol
[12:15:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to BlankEclair> yeah that would=
[12:15:19] <BlankEclair>	 can't wait to see the javascript side of things
[12:15:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to prabhasxd> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358414778057490653/1358411694778355843remix-1743941719744.png?ex=67f3c1d9&is=67f27059&hm=0aae172c3614035cd9f04c0d6410f289c6b18e98b624e0a47a29cc184648ba74&
[12:15:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked)
[12:19:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [1/9] so
[12:19:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [2/9] ```html
[12:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [3/9] {{CSS|content= 
[12:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [4/9] <nowiki>
[12:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [5/9] .soundtrack-box {
[12:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [6/9] background-image:/nowikiurl({{filepath:{{{image|Placeholder.png}}}}});
[12:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [7/9] }
[12:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [8/9] }}
[12:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to snowstacked> [9/9] ```
[12:19:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yes
[12:20:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> it
[12:20:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> it doesnt work
[12:48:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67> @alstene18_3868 @macabreexude remember me?
[12:48:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude, replying to amethystmoth67> oh my god fuck off lmfao
[12:49:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> you’re a content thief
[12:49:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868, replying to amethystmoth67> WHY ARE YOU HERE 😭
[12:49:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67> I stopped lol
[12:49:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> CAN YOU AND YOUR BROTHER STOP STALKING ME OH MY GOD 😭
[12:49:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> IN THE MIRAHEZE SERVER OF ALL PLACES
[12:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> its not every day you see miraheze drama
[12:49:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> you literally made a scratch project stomping on my oc after being called out for tracing fuck OFF
[12:50:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude, replying to snowstacked> it’s not mira-specific but it’s still craycray
[12:50:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> okay im invested
[12:50:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67> What Is it? @alstene18_3868 😆
[12:50:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> 🍿
[12:50:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868, replying to snowstacked> yeah 😭
[12:50:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Alright
[12:50:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Thats enough, take a down a notch, or take it to DMs
[12:50:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Not here.
[12:50:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> right apologies
[12:51:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> still Wild why was i pinged for this 😭
[12:51:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude, replying to snowstacked> ok tl;dr this kid strated tracing and stealing people’s artwork (including mine), got called out for it, made a scratch project “apology” that was essentially a clout beg, and then started throwing a shitfit when people didn’t forgive her in which she started violently threatening myself and others
[12:52:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> This discussion will not continue.
[12:52:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67> I did said sorry for threatening you brimstone
[12:52:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> zppix is Watching...
[12:53:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude, replying to amethystmoth67> …where
[12:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> either way cease this conversation as has been requested
[12:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67, replying to amethystmoth67> On yt
[12:53:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> Y'all just unleashed the beast
[12:53:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Come back in an hour
[12:54:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> I’m done repeating myself
[12:54:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> 💀 oh god
[13:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> [1/3] i really don't want to bring it up again but i feel like amy should be kicked out
[13:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> [2/3] they've had a history of not being a very good person (harassing my friends and stealing some of their content. not to mention their apology was one of those scratch interaction bait projects and wasn't very genuine because they started harassing the people they meant to apologise to afterwards)
[13:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> [3/3] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKqFhDwoaSXBruCWmQkgbAw/community?lb=UgkxB62EJD9yU-XAr57Ncln3utwO8CqFqLx1
[13:05:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger> Hello, I have a question. I know that to adopt a wiki, you have to contribute to it regularly, but how do you do that in the case of an inactive, private wiki? If a request is made to reopen it, are admin rights given automatically, or do you have to make the request and then contribute? Thanks in advance.
[13:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> private wikis are only open to be adpoted by those who already had access @jeanboulanger
[13:09:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Yes, but what if no one has access? Like, if it's private? The wiki isn't adoptable?
[13:10:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jeanboulanger> Are you thinking about a specific wiki?
[13:10:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> but ye, private wikis are private for a reason
[13:11:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> kidney
[13:11:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Well, there's like the Sonic Wiki, which I think is private, and it's impossible to see if it's still active.
[13:12:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> @macabreexude @alstene18_3868  ":)"
[13:12:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jeanboulanger> domain?
[13:12:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to thechocolatekiddo> somewhere else please
[13:12:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> sonic.miraheze.org
[13:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I think we need to add a suggestion to not make WIP wikis private unless requester is 100% committed to the work
[13:14:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jeanboulanger> most definately not inactive
[13:14:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Okay, thanks.
[13:16:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:DemKnux is the requestor
[13:17:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> [1/2] @macabreexude I won't
[13:17:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358430307576971415/Screenshot_20250406-151613_Chrome.png?ex=67f3d04f&is=67f27ecf&hm=2606473b7f5b5e5ec185734f9ce9f2d3579f4c00461e6788b140dbfee7d30948&
[13:17:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thechocolatekiddo> cut it kid
[13:17:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> what?
[13:17:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thechocolatekiddo> xd
[13:17:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alstene18_3868> https://tenor.com/view/evil-defeated-lost-the-evil-is-defeated-kid-gif-5007371
[14:19:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Okay, thanks
[14:44:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rah_har> hello chat
[14:48:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rah_har> https://tenor.com/view/whale-hello-there-wave-hi-there-gif-14640431
[14:49:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rah_har> anybody know how i can change background of wiki
[14:49:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> depends on skin
[14:49:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but commonly via CSS
[14:49:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rah_har> im on css page for my wiki
[14:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] the usual process of modifying wiki's CSS is poking around w/ element inspector and adding changes to CSS page, preferably skin specific one
[14:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1319311694979403849
[15:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snufkin_vc> I just want to thank everyone, the uxnomicon wiki has been approved, best regards :)
[15:58:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rflctns> /auth
[16:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> aaa
[16:52:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> svg is weried
[17:41:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> why?
[17:41:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I mean
[17:41:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> At that point what’s the point anyways
[17:48:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to bartomelow> seen too many wikis being requested as private as some sort of WIP, w/ single admins, like "I'm gonna work on this alone till it's ready to be public and open for editing /or not/", only to get forgotten/abandoned and deleted w/ no way for other users to adopt it, just sitting on subdomain
[17:51:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> imo the moment it's able to be adopted the private setting should be revoked
[17:58:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> Nope, private wikis are considered as being under NDA
[17:59:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> it’s why global admins and wiki mechanics can’t police or assist in them, we don’t have a non disclosure agreement, therefore we can’t have access
[17:59:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> Imma be real the only reason I made my wiki request private is that I don't want people trying to edit it when I request to import the backup
[17:59:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> Since I remember reading that that will cause problems
[18:00:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> That’s fair
[18:00:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Though you can also just revoke editing rights
[18:00:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> True
[18:02:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> I'll edit my request to not be private, then
[18:52:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I’m in Kentucky
[18:57:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amethystmoth67> im sorry
[19:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] Great. Keep non-MH topics and unrelated grudges off this server's general chat please, or you'll find your stay here to be a short one.
[19:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] Let's move on with our day, folks.
[20:15:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <porfformelyn> would someone happen to know what's happening? the deletion of the learningblocks wiki domain we asked for happened, however it seems that when the request was made, it said the domain was taken, despite being deleted
[20:17:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <porfformelyn> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358536059905900625/Screenshot_20250406_171701_Discord.jpg?ex=67f432cd&is=67f2e14d&hm=d65535581500421245a4b596e6d80c8fae145e8a53eab18c3a766b0a706dc167&
[20:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to porfformelyn> what’s the domain name? Does it give a deleted or not found error
[20:19:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <porfformelyn> https://learningblocks.miraheze.org/
[20:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If it’s ‘soft’ deleted, you’ll get a deleted message, and it hasn’t been dropped from the database, so it can’t be retaken.
[20:19:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <porfformelyn> it gives an deleted error
[20:19:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yup
[20:20:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You’d have to ask Tech to DROP it on [[Phorge]]
[20:20:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge>
[20:20:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Not ideal, I know:p
[20:21:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Hello
[20:21:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> What we asking tech?
[20:24:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> Drop a deleted database to reclaim the domain name
[20:25:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> This was originally handled by Agent, who determined that the parked content at that subdomain was being taken wholesale without permission/licensing from elsewhere and was beyond salvageable (or permitting a dump of content).
[20:25:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> In this case, hard-delete would be permissible under that logic.
[20:25:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to notaracham> You got for me to drop it then?
[20:26:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Not my case, but from what I've seen I agree w/ the decision by Agent.  Clear to proceed, IMO
[20:26:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s a pile of copyvio, so,
[20:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You may fire when ready
[20:28:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> i'm taking an sql backup then killing it with fire
[20:29:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> /dev/null also works, less likely to trigger the sprinklers
[20:29:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> less you wanna go down to Idaho and mop
[20:29:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Actual servers are in... Utah I think?
[20:29:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Right
[20:29:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to bringyourmittens> [1/2] My approach to this was to make a user permission group with the editing permissions, and then remove the editing permissions from normal users, allowing me to essentially assign content creators.  It's made the permission profile a little janky due to hierarchy (bureaucrats needed the new role to create, which was weird) but it's produced the outcome 
[20:29:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to bringyourmittens> [2/2] I was after.
[20:29:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Salt Lake City
[20:29:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to notaracham> Salt Lake City
[20:29:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> hence FSSLC
[20:30:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tyrian_uk> i typically recommend the confirmed group for this, TBH
[20:31:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> this script needs some prints
[20:31:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> I wanted it one step further.  We have 1,000 fans on a discord, and 5,000 on a Facebook.   That is a level of chaos I am not prepared to deal with.
[20:32:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> I thought you just dropped it ngl i didn’t know we had a scriot
[20:33:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Once we go live with this, I'm not looking for every tom dick and harry to go nuts on the authors content, we'll probably add some contribution management later, but to start with, I'd rather it was moderately locked down
[20:33:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @tyrian_uk Watch your language.
[20:33:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> we'd blow up logins if we didn't run the script
[20:33:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> O.o  I just got a dyno language warning for that!?!?
[20:33:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> dyno was a bit eager there
[20:34:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> What's it annoyed with, d or n ?  Lol
[20:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [1/6] Will execute:
[20:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [2/6] sudo -u www-data php /srv/mediawiki/1.43/maintenance/run.php CreateWiki:DeleteWiki --wiki=loginwiki --delete --deletewiki learningblockswiki
[20:34:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [3/6] Type 'Y' to confirm: Y
[20:34:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [4/6] Wiki learningblockswiki deleted.
[20:34:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [5/6] Logging via /usr/local/bin/logsalmsg "sudo -u www-data php /srv/mediawiki/1.43/maintenance/run.php CreateWiki:DeleteWiki --wiki=loginwiki --delete --deletewiki learningblockswiki (END - exit=0)"
[20:34:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [6/6] Done!
[20:34:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @porfformelyn done
[20:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> please, they’re already in pieces on the ground
[20:35:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tyrian_uk> d
[20:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> No, there's a sudo in there, even i know better than to play with that  and my Linux experience is limited to Valves contribution.
[20:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <porfformelyn> thank you!!
[20:35:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Dyno is like a grumpy doggo, he’s mean and trigger happy to new people (ie unauthed/verified)
[20:36:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Most people auth so looking into it isn’t a priority also
[20:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> you have to use sudo to run mediawiki scripts
[20:36:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> because you need to be www-data
[20:36:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> I'm not auth'd?   How did i miss that, you've got enough details to dox me.
[20:37:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tyrian_uk> ?
[20:37:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to rhinosf1> But its significantly safer to run it thru a verified script than free type it tho right?
[20:38:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yeah, our global account system is also atrocious
[20:38:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> [1/2] my actual command was 
[20:38:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tyrian_uk> [2/2] > mwscript CreateWiki:DeleteWiki loginwiki --delete --deletewiki learningblockswiki
[20:39:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> So if we don’t use the script, as Rhinos said, the missing attachment would cause hell
[20:39:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> I'm generally a touch paranoid,  but used my real details when signing up for my miraheze account.   Basically on this project the only other people who even have my real name are the author, his pa and my co bureaucrat.  The content editors think my real name is Tyrian.
[20:40:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Did you fill out the real name field in signup/settings?
[20:40:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Probably,  Bruce would need to be able to link stuff to the actual me so...
[20:41:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (FYI, that field is not private, it is show on history sometimes. If you’re sensitive about that, maybe wipe it)
[20:43:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> K, thanks.  I'll go do that.
[21:34:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <xnduiwsimonphung> Characters originating from the United States are probably the most abundant type of OCs if you count nationality.
[21:35:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <xnduiw.riduso, replying to xnduiwsimonphung> You are correct in this regard, since American media is often widespread.
[21:36:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> O pque
[21:41:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pixldev> they always randomly talk to each on completely unrelated to miraheze topics
[21:45:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> Odd
[21:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> ZenUsha and Simon, keep it to off-topic going forward, please.
[21:59:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wurmholez> I’m brand new to Miraheze, can I dm anyone who knows how to build a wiki with questions..?
[22:02:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to wurmholez> [1/3] dm won't be sufficient 
[22:02:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to wurmholez> [2/3] miraheze is volunteer run project and in this is a support server where you just can ask stuff
[22:02:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to wurmholez> [3/3] also check FAQ on main Meta Wiki
[22:52:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> [1/2] xiaomi being annoying ||(and more annoying cuz I needed to make a Mi Account just to turn on a developer option)||
[22:52:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358575086436749392/scrcpy_Hi5HTuEcWw.gif?ex=67f45725&is=67f305a5&hm=21dd3bdf445c04b2df0646eedcfda59b77d7d795194e3daec03858663039bfbc&