[01:39:00] <.guardianx.> [1/17] @blankeclair Sorry to RNG ping, would there be another way to store variables in a longer term solution? [01:39:00] <.guardianx.> [2/17] this is what I'm working with: [01:39:00] <.guardianx.> [3/17] https://ecopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:QuestRewards [01:39:01] <.guardianx.> [4/17] this is a test page I made for messing with it: [01:39:01] <.guardianx.> [5/17] https://ecopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/A_testy_questy [01:39:01] <.guardianx.> [6/17] My goal for this was to make it so that users could just do a simple edit: [01:39:02] <.guardianx.> [7/17] ``` [01:39:02] <.guardianx.> [8/17] {{Reward | [01:39:02] <.guardianx.> [9/17] ;1 [01:39:02] <.guardianx.> [10/17] ;300 [01:39:03] <.guardianx.> [11/17] ;70 [01:39:03] <.guardianx.> [12/17] ;13 [01:39:04] <.guardianx.> [13/17] ;12345 [01:39:04] <.guardianx.> [14/17] ;Greatsword Test [01:39:05] <.guardianx.> [15/17] }} [01:39:05] <.guardianx.> [16/17] ``` [01:39:06] <.guardianx.> [17/17] and add things like coin rewards (it will take the high end and low end and toss the rest) and multiple item rewards. [01:40:42] <.guardianx.> I'm planning on tying in SMW for items so users can seamlessly get an idea of what drops, for example, cotton for crafting. [03:18:05] is it possible for wikis to have different article paths like /en/ or /de/ or /fr/ for different languages [03:41:39] > [09/05/2025 11:39] <.guardianx.> [1/17] @blankeclair Sorry to RNG ping, would there be another way to store variables in a longer term solution? [03:41:51] .guardianx.: perhaps you can pass the rewards as arguments to QuestRewards? [03:42:02] honestly, i'm not sure about the best solution tbh [03:42:36] the rainverse wiki has duplicate source links on comic pages (e.g. https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Rain:1:_Prologue_1), and idk how to deduplicate them non-messily [05:41:44] does anyone have a miraheze version of this? [05:41:44] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Tooltips [06:03:55] errrr no [06:03:59] you can just use its code [06:04:05] [1/2] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Tooltips.js [06:04:05] [2/2] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Tooltips.css [06:05:22] i tried that and it doesnt work 💔 [06:05:35] wdym... [06:05:44] unless putting it in user.js breaks it somehow [06:05:48] huh [06:06:30] i put it in my user styles and it doesnt work [06:07:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370280904181944492/image.png?ex=681eed0a&is=681d9b8a&hm=5f09191ad64228b35ced5b57ba81e97960944bb941103a04ed100944b298a09e& [06:07:43] 😭 [06:08:01] [1/2] why doesnt mine do that [06:08:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370281133853507635/image.png?ex=681eed40&is=681d9bc0&hm=9e9eb7f0536e50dc3c7ba6c32ef8601a7e046ee8380762652dd21eed57d5adf0& [06:08:10] im using inspect element [06:08:16] im not actually adding it to my wiki [06:09:36] im just gunna use one of the modifed verisons i saw [06:27:27] [1/2] this is very sad [06:27:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370286024328220682/image.png?ex=681ef1ce&is=681da04e&hm=fc564151f13d79d32c4517cd461c046e2e7f9b7c889ebe2d0501d9ecf1524fbe& [06:30:23] it seems to just end the table early [06:32:17] and the tooltip content just doesnt [07:17:13] Is querying cargo tables a particularly expensive function? [07:18:36] I was thinking of doing so for a template that is expected to be used in a page as frequently as links themselves, but I'm not sure how this would impact performance [09:06:59] is it possible to add custom preferences [09:11:23] if it's not too big, then it can go in LocalWiki, yeah [09:11:29] what does it do though [09:12:00] i wanted to try adding like a font setting on my wiki [09:12:10] like source sans, sans serif, etc [09:12:29] oh hmm [09:12:40] sounds feasible to make, but you need somebody to make it ^^; [09:22:51] whats localwiki by the way [09:23:12] a file in miraheze configs that stores complex per-wiki configuration [09:23:20] simple ones go in LocalSettings [09:23:36] oh [09:23:42] is it complicated [09:30:06] 99% sure that it'll be more complicated than a one-line change [09:30:21] i'm gonna wager an optimistic guess that adding a new config option would be like ~5 lines [09:30:23] 😵 [09:30:34] hopefully it's not too bad, i haven't looked into it [10:22:39] My template has the Category "pages with script errors" is there an error log somewhere? [10:24:10] From what I acn tell the template does exactly what i want it to, but that category is annoying, i dont want to just hide it [15:02:50] <.guardianx.> [1/2] I checked out parsoid and whatnot and I'm running my profile under the settings for: [15:02:50] <.guardianx.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370415724698406922/image.png?ex=681f6a99&is=681e1919&hm=7f5fa1aafc9a9188c94878c42f71ae538d3abb88b3f6ec7b631808a649f2fed8& [15:03:34] <.guardianx.> is it a running joke that eventually this is going to be the parsing extension / app / utility that everyone uses? [15:03:45] <.guardianx.> there are so many issues as I look around with this on [15:04:13] <.guardianx.> like SMW is going to break almost entirely it seems. [15:35:20] @snowstacked why are you called import now [15:45:40] meme reasons for the irwa discord [16:12:46] Is anyone else having trouble with their wiki logo with timeless theme? I know that I got the right file name because my logo appears like once every 50 refreshes but most of the time my logo is missing. I thought maybe I just needed to wait but its been days now and it just doesn’t show up on any of my devices [16:14:52] is the css defined in common.css? [16:22:32] Where do I check that? [16:25:26] there is separate logo setting for Timeless as for recent, scroll down the styling tab a bit [16:25:48] and it accepts just filename, not raw file link [16:41:03] That’s where I put it, in $wgTimelessWordmark [16:42:01] [1/2] wordmark is another thing, where name of the wiki at the top/banner stripe [16:42:02] [2/2] try to type in small search bar "logo" [16:44:06] Oops sorry I mean logo, I did put it in logo [16:45:32] I typed /WikilogoSannhet.png which is the exact file name. Tried it both with and without the / [16:54:42] Sadly not [16:55:18] PI box is dead on parsoid [16:58:24] <.guardianx.> thankfully I don't have any of them, I went the custom route, more annoying but ya... [16:59:11] Portable Infobox?? [16:59:13] <.guardianx., replying to rhinosf1> [1/2] I assume doing things in LUA is going to be my bread and butter then LOL.. [16:59:13] <.guardianx., replying to rhinosf1> [2/2] it seems like most / all of that is untouched [17:04:20] <.guardianx.> [1/2] So , is there a way that we can create a page form input without it breaking under parsoid? [17:04:20] <.guardianx.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370446301019373669/image.png?ex=681f8713&is=681e3593&hm=1c1f1aac05113ce8ee3a0ce0908f81e7abbe2c6c0f27e295bab7896a834b1ecd& [17:05:07] Blind hope someone eventually decides to care [17:05:20] <.guardianx.> HAHA [17:05:30] Yup [17:05:30] <.guardianx.> https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762 [17:08:19] <.guardianx., replying to rhinosf1> Whelp, I was wondering if it was just a visual thing, nope, forms won't work. that'll be fun! LOL [17:11:42] You can continue to opt out if you want [17:11:53] Well allow opt out at the wiki and user level as long as we can [17:14:05] <.guardianx.> Yeah, just trying to future-proof things a bit. [17:15:18] Good luck [17:15:25] Let me know if you find a way [17:44:38] Hello guys, good evening [18:07:15] Seems to be the same issue as PIB actually, so hopefully if someone actually fixes that issue the rest will follow [18:08:09] Parsoid should be opt in if that tbh, it’s confusing enough for people to have to figure out how to enable the PI extension, telling them they also have to click this other button, bah [18:08:40] It is for now [18:08:51] That was a general statement [18:09:18] Still not sure what the advantage of Parsoid is [18:09:26] Beside the old one being an eldritch horror of god [18:09:35] We have no plans for the foreseeable, even after it becomes the default, to prevent wikis from opting out [18:09:37] Did I catch a stray glimpse saying that SMW is going to break in the next MW update? Or is that more parsoid stuff that would cause that? [18:09:52] Parsoid [18:09:57] Gotcha, not surprising [18:10:22] Technical [18:10:41] It makes the bits go faster, just like painting it red in warhammer 40k. 😄 [18:11:45] I still don’t get why the hell is such an issue about supporting XML in parsoid [18:59:10] can't break whats already broken [18:59:19] it's not [18:59:22] that isn't the issue [19:07:12] What’s the issue [19:07:42] Parser tags are no longer allowed to access other frames or something [19:16:41] you need to set it to the full url which you can get by going to the file page of the image and left clicking on the image preview, for public wikis it should start with static.wikitide.net [19:22:20] I’m trying to use a Wikipedia template in my wiki but it’s looping [19:23:18] [[Wikipedia]] imports are very rarely not the way to go for templates [19:23:20]

[19:23:55] I’m trying to go accurate and nowhere else has as good [19:24:33] It’s for an office holder [19:26:19] I would use the builder but it looks crap [19:30:31] [1/2] hi, someone sent me an email, how do i read the whole message? [19:30:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370483092103626823/image.png?ex=681fa957&is=681e57d7&hm=609472db60206731484291c5acd8a99a5f707c5c20d4cf4d4faa56bb54b1e2b8& [19:33:26] just click on this notification ... [19:33:33] or check your email [19:33:38] It would be in your email [19:35:16] [1/2] thanks [19:35:16] [2/2] i thought it was an inside messaging system on the website lol [19:35:33] Too much work to run /j [19:36:18] Is there somewhere I can send a picture of my problem [19:39:32] <90gq29, replying to bendyover0364> pretty sure its fine to send it here [19:45:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370486884081336502/IMG_0544.jpg?ex=681facdf&is=681e5b5f&hm=293b15131e1af55501713debb3c18fcc4fad9feb165276d28bcc68e3177b9e41& [19:45:53] It won’t load it just a link to it [20:01:55] <90gq29> did you take a photo of your screen 😭 [20:03:13] <90gq29> @bendyover0364 is "Infobox Person" a template you made? [20:18:23] Yes [20:42:09] I can’t seem to get it to come up with everything and all the guides are so conflicting [20:44:32] Whenever I google videos they’re all using builders [20:47:56] YouTube and wiki don’t tend to go great sadly [20:48:24] The builder is the only easy standard way with an interface to make infoboxes, the rest are made via wikitext [20:48:46] [[dev:]] may have something [20:48:47]

[20:56:05] Think I’m just gonna have to forget infoboxes cause this is all gibberish 😂 [21:12:02] learn wiki text, template coding will follow smoothly after [21:12:25] any wiki admin should know how to wield them [21:34:49] [1/2] Now it just looks like this [21:34:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370514372178477146/IMG_0546.jpg?ex=681fc679&is=681e74f9&hm=14ddbcea5f7c64d34212c7b97a8516ac9a20f44a2426eab57e699970129e5762& [21:35:00] [1/2] It says just the file name though on the bottom? Tried what you said though and still no luck [21:35:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370514416126263447/IMG_6076.png?ex=681fc683&is=681e7503&hm=39d9c11dab931870896a4c35ee649b8e08f81b90b1cf7177c9591b32308beeb1& [21:37:58] oh my bad, that is the case for most other logo settings, but apparently not for this one. setting it to just the filename should work in theory [21:48:30] Are you trying to use Wikipedia templates btw? [21:49:08] I’m guessing the builders you’re seeing are for portable indices [21:59:59] Yeah, I’ve made the template page and copied the code into the page and then tried to do it in the page I want the info box [22:00:09] you should `/verify` and then provide a link to the wiki so someone can actually go see what's going on instead of you giving us a picture of a preview. [22:04:27] afaik their wiki is private [22:05:39] It is [22:05:42] Fuck [22:05:52] Let me see what I can do [22:06:46] Yeah that’s my problem…it doesn’t work with either and I’ve quadruple checked that the file name is accurate [22:11:13] I’m not sure you can de privatise can you? [22:11:42] you can, but you can also add people as members if need be [22:13:30] I wonder if it’s a problem with the file itself because it worked for weeks before suddenly disappearing [22:14:48] It’d be great if ppl were members cause honestly I’m hopeless with the technical side 😂😂 [22:16:34] i believe you can change user groups at Special:UserRights [23:02:22] #verify * [23:17:52] <.guardianx.> Does anyone haev a good exampel of "subobject" usage in practice? I'm really trying to understand if what I'm trying to achieve is attainable LOL [23:18:35] <.guardianx.> I'm looking to have a merchant carry items with a subobject that explains that those items are "Goods for sale" and "have a value" that is defined [23:18:47] <.guardianx.> sorry, talking about SMW [23:19:25] <.guardianx.> The way I'm understanding it is that Subobjects are bound, really, to the page and not to an item / object defined on the page [23:21:17] <.guardianx.> [1/3] like I can't [23:21:17] <.guardianx.> [2/3] [[Has Item:IronSword]] [[Has Item Type:Goods]] [[Has Coin Value:123]] [23:21:17] <.guardianx.> [3/3] and then tie type and value to the sword on that specific page, right? [23:21:17]

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