[00:28:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thebirdofwisdom> I had a project page just disappear without a trace. No deletion log.
[00:29:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thebirdofwisdom> It was simple to recreate but I'm wondering why it happened.
[02:11:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <anpang54> btw why's Extension:Tabs still listed in managewiki
[02:11:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <anpang54> hasn't it stopped working since 1.42?
[02:18:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> lol, did no one remove it?
[02:18:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh right
[02:18:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> there's work in progress to make it work again
[02:19:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> still waiting for that CR+2
[02:22:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <anpang54> I see
[03:13:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> does anyone have any good worldbuilding/fantasy wiki's to referance?
[03:13:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> mainly going for a sci fi theme
[03:57:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mp5a5, replying to _vrm_> nope
[03:57:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mp5a5> it's the same on every page
[03:57:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mp5a5> especially on the episode pages
[04:11:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> @Discord Moderators
[05:17:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Addressed
[06:22:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <revolvingunknown> Hello, I have submitted a request to open a wiki. How long should I expect to wait before another review to be done by the AI or a Wiki Creator? (The AI made a review before and it told me I have to add more details regarding the topic and scope, which I promptly added).
[06:27:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Just to right-size expectations, it was until very recently about 7 days, but between AI and people power we've brought it down significantly.
[06:28:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> A human reviewer will get to it when they can, we are 100% volunteer-powered, so it's as folks are free to assist
[07:10:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Current backlog (oldest unhandled request) in request wiki queue is about 7 hours (12 requests).
[07:15:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] huh?
[07:15:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1373197148576940073/image0.jpg?ex=68298900&is=68283780&hm=9cacebb87e07ac9f90710d122e8de757c61f0503cd6a2bdc680574f70582921a&
[07:20:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to snowstacked> Huh, utgwiki isn't new
[07:21:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> What wiki is that on
[07:21:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> utgwiki
[07:21:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> sorry idk how to use wikibase
[07:22:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @snowstacked did you recently enable wikibase?
[07:22:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yeah
[07:22:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> just enabled
[07:22:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> is that the cause?
[07:23:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I think it might be
[07:23:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Maybe not
[07:26:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I remember why I hated that script
[07:27:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @snowstacked can you file a task?
[07:49:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to rhinosf1> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13716
[08:28:39] <Guest62>	 Hi my miraheze wiki dowm
[08:28:43] <Guest62>	 After removing Cloudflare
[08:28:54] <Guest62>	 wiki.qadrishattaro
[08:29:10] <Guest62>	 *wiki.qadrishattari.xyz
[08:30:24] <BlankEclair>	 Guest62: that domain does not exist
[08:30:31] <BlankEclair>	 wait no
[08:30:54] <BlankEclair>	 oh okay, it's the second one
[08:30:59] <Guest62>	 https://wiki.qadrishattari.xyz/wiki/Main_Page
[08:31:25] <Guest62>	 Please fix the bug like you did earlier
[08:31:31] <Guest62>	 A couple of days before
[08:31:39] <RhinosF1>	 That's not on us
[08:31:41] <BlankEclair>	 wiki.qadrishattari.xyz is missing
[08:31:45] <RhinosF1>	 It says not resolved to me
[08:31:47] <BlankEclair>	 please CNAME wiki.qadrishattari.xyz to cf-lb.miraheze.org
[08:31:54] <RhinosF1>	 What BlankEclair said
[08:31:57] <Guest62>	 Please kick out Cloudflare from there
[08:32:08] <Guest62>	 Like you did Earl
[08:32:13] <Guest62>	 *earlier
[08:32:42] <RhinosF1>	 Kicking Cloudflare won't help that error
[08:32:48] <Guest62>	 Shall I need to do this in Cloudflare?
[08:33:04] <RhinosF1>	 Please add a CNAME in Cloudflare as BlankEclair said
[08:33:06] <Guest62>	 Or in my domain panel
[08:33:11] <RhinosF1>	 In Cloudflare
[08:33:14] <Guest62>	 Please hold on
[08:33:22] <RhinosF1>	 Then if you see a Cloudflare error page, I can kick it
[08:35:40] <Guest62>	 Done
[08:37:42] <Guest62>	 https://wiki.qadrishattari.xyz/wiki/Main_Page
[08:37:47] <Guest62>	 Same error page
[08:38:14] <Guest62>	 Even after adding the requested cname
[08:38:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to Guest62> no errors for me
[08:38:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> clean your cache
[08:38:46] <RhinosF1>	 He left
[08:38:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> eh
[08:38:56] <RhinosF1>	 Was going to say please screenshot your Cloudflare dns page
[08:40:51] <Guest42>	 Hi
[08:41:43] <Guest42>	 The error is still persisting with me even after clearing the cash
[08:42:31] <Guest42>	 How to upload the screenshot
[08:43:16] <Guest42>	 I want to share the error with you people
[08:43:32] <RhinosF1>	 Guest42: upload it to any file sharing site or Phorge
[08:43:37] <RhinosF1>	 IRC can only share text
[08:43:45] <RhinosF1>	 Or join discord if that's a more familiar experience
[08:43:55] <Guest42>	 Don't you see an error there
[08:44:09] <RhinosF1>	 I can see the error
[08:44:19] <RhinosF1>	 But you need to share your Cloudflare dns page
[08:44:20] <RhinosF1>	 With us
[08:44:21] <Guest42>	 So what's the issue
[08:45:28] <RhinosF1>	 Your dns records aren't resolving
[08:46:12] <Guest42>	 Please share your temporary email
[08:46:21] <Guest42>	 So that I can share you the screenshot
[08:46:42] <RhinosF1>	 you can email tech@wikitide.org
[08:46:43] <RhinosF1>	 Or
[08:46:51] <RhinosF1>	 Reply to the emails about hosted dns we sent you
[08:48:28] <Guest42>	 Sent
[08:48:54] <Guest42>	 Please check the email at tech@...
[08:50:34] <Guest42>	 Received????
[08:50:53] <Guest42>	 Or shall I remove the entire domain from cf
[08:51:07] <Guest42>	 To solve this issue
[08:51:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> why is the bot talking here
[08:52:00] <Guest42>	 MirahezeRelay who is the bot here?
[08:52:01] <RhinosF1>	 Guest42: I've got it
[08:52:10] <RhinosF1>	 I'm not sure what the problem is
[08:52:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to 90gq29> MirahezeRelay is a relay between IRC and Discord
[08:52:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We're both human
[08:52:56] <Guest42>	 Do I need to remove the CNAME for miraheze from domain panel
[08:53:52] <RhinosF1>	 Guest42: no
[08:53:58] <RhinosF1>	 The CNAME is correct
[08:53:58] <Guest42>	 Aren't you able to kick out Cloudflare from there ?
[08:54:06] <RhinosF1>	 No
[08:54:09] <RhinosF1>	 It's not resolving
[08:54:12] <Guest42>	 Please solve this issue bro
[08:54:15] <RhinosF1>	 I have no control over that function
[08:54:25] <RhinosF1>	 All I can suggest is contacting Cloudflare support
[08:54:58] <Guest42>	 Okay then I don't need the  Cloudflare rubbish
[08:55:10] <Guest42>	 I am removing the entire domain from cloud player
[08:55:23] <RhinosF1>	 A quick check looks like the system is propagating properly
[08:55:24] <Guest42>	 So that you should be able to kick out the cloud playr there
[08:55:43] <RhinosF1>	 If you don't use Cloudflare, you will have to follow a more involved process
[08:55:59] <RhinosF1>	 And given your technical proficiency, I don't recommend it
[08:56:07] <RhinosF1>	 Or you will loose your custom domain
[08:56:30] <Guest42>	 FYI I know how to do this
[08:57:31] <RhinosF1>	 Then contact Cloudflare support and tell them you are not seeing your CNAME for wiki propagating properly and are receiving DNS errors
[08:57:42] <RhinosF1>	 Technical support is available from them for free
[08:58:34] <RhinosF1>	 The error im getting is ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED and your setup is fine so there must be a temporary fault on their end
[08:58:34] <Guest42>	 Hold on I have another method
[09:00:37] <BlankEclair>	 right, i'm unbusy now
[09:00:43] <BlankEclair>	 wiki.qadrishattari.xyz now resolves for me
[09:02:34] <BlankEclair>	 RhinosF1: want me to proceed w/ cleanup?
[09:02:57] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: yes
[09:03:08] <BlankEclair>	 is it task worthy for a single pr on dns?
[09:03:13] <BlankEclair>	 (i have commit perms on ssl)
[09:03:17] <RhinosF1>	 Just do the PR
[09:03:36] <RhinosF1>	 Guest42: looks like it's starting to work but very slow to
[09:03:40] <BlankEclair>	 forgot this was initially a CNAME, we don't have it on dns lol
[09:04:07] <BlankEclair>	 oh it's already done
[09:04:13] <RhinosF1>	 If it was initially a CNAME, it's probably already done in most places
[09:04:22] <BlankEclair>	 certs.yaml as well
[09:04:23] <RhinosF1>	 Cause it would have been moved months ago
[09:04:26] <BlankEclair>	 oh right
[09:04:31] <BlankEclair>	 i forgot about that ^^;
[09:04:35] <RhinosF1>	 so ye this is purely a case of waiting on dns
[09:04:46] <RhinosF1>	 Which we have no control over
[09:05:08] <BlankEclair>	 blame the caching goddesses
[09:05:32] <Guest42>	 Hi
[09:05:52] <Guest42>	 I am able to do this by kicking Cloudflare from the entire domain
[09:05:53] <BlankEclair>	 meow :3
[09:06:03] <BlankEclair>	 i mean, i guess that works
[09:06:50] <BlankEclair>	 hm, dns still hosted by cf
[09:07:43] <Guest42>	 But the wiki is working fine with me
[09:08:06] <RhinosF1>	 If it's working fine for you, there's nothing to do
[09:08:08] <BlankEclair>	 good enough lol
[09:09:41] <Guest42>	 https://wiki.qadrishattari.xyz/wiki/Main_Page
[09:09:53] <Guest42>	 Do you seeing any problem there
[09:10:47] <Guest42>	 I mean DNS
[09:11:36] <RhinosF1>	 I am, Claire isn't
[09:11:44] <RhinosF1>	 It's 100% slow propagation
[09:11:51] <BlankEclair>	 oh negative caching, a bane of my existence
[09:11:54] <RhinosF1>	 Which patience is probably the answer too
[09:12:10] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: dns is the bane of my existence
[09:12:35] <RhinosF1>	 I can run a global DNS check and only the UK fails
[09:12:47] <Guest42>	 Shall I leave now?
[09:13:37] <RhinosF1>	 That's up to you
[09:13:48] <RhinosF1>	 There's no requirement to leave when your question has been answered
[10:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] @rhinosf1 any updates on the command pallette update on citizen?
[10:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1373239870813638656/image.png?ex=6829b0ca&is=68285f4a&hm=26a7ed1ac10b94b6e04f3459161e4ef871fd1ed94db793900977b4ac918832eb&
[10:10:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to snowstacked> No
[10:11:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @blankeclair you still reading?
[10:11:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> nope ^^;
[10:12:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @blankeclair can you update citizen on prod and merge https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5926
[10:12:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i assuem you need me for something, right?
[10:13:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oki, i'll go kill two stones with one bird
[10:13:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @snowstacked you should almost never believe my timelines
[10:14:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If i promise to do something in the future, ill almost certainly forget
[10:14:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> merged and mwdeploying
[10:14:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to rhinosf1> lol
[10:14:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel, replying to rhinosf1> So what you are saying, is we should get you to promise you not to do something, to get things done? 😄
[10:15:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to gummiel> we'll forget not to do it
[10:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to gummiel> Or just annoy me into doing it
[10:16:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Assuming I'm not at work, that works very well
[10:24:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> fully updated UwU
[10:25:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @snowstacked ^
[10:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> thank u!
[15:03:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Out of curiosity, does Miraheze have an equivalent to Fandoms ‘big wiki’ list? That was a section of their site where they listed wikis with over 5,000 articles
[15:24:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to amelialoveheart> [1/2] As of my knowledge, no
[15:24:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to amelialoveheart> [2/2] We however does have [[Special:WikiDiscover]] for every wiki instead
[15:24:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WikiDiscover>
[15:39:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You could check wikistats
[15:41:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There's only 70 wikis on https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh with over 5K articles
[15:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <revolvingunknown> [1/2] Hello can someone explain this for me: "─ As most content is copyrighted keep the Rule of thumb in mind, that when no license is mentioned, the content and images are fully protected and not allowed to be reused under our Creative Commons license." If CC is a license allowing for content to be (in a way) freely distributed, then why is it stated that contents are not allowed
[15:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <revolvingunknown> [2/2]  to be reused?
[15:51:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sean_morabitoyt> Howcome the last few days Miraheze keeps going randomly down for a few minutes?
[15:52:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> sometimes servers have mood swings and we cant rlly blame em
[16:32:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Does it?
[17:21:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sean_morabitoyt, replying to agentisai> yes, it has happened multiple times now. Though it doesn't last long, I can go back onto our site after a few mins.
[17:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> It’s happened to me a few times but it’s never lasted more than like two minutes so haven’t reported them
[17:44:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to revolvingunknown> It’s saying copyrighted images are not to be freely used under CC
[18:00:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jonaswirhalt> @everyone CHIEF NAZIS CHIEF MOTHERFUCKER!!! Visit: https://realnessmc.miraheze.org
[18:00:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @jonaswirhalt Watch your language.
[18:00:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jonaswirhalt> @everyone CHIEF NAZIS CHIEF MOTHERFUCKER!!! Visit: https://realnessmc.miraheze.org
[18:00:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @jonaswirhalt Watch your language.
[18:00:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jonaswirhalt> @everyone CHIEF NAZZIS CHIEF MOTHERFUHKER!!! Visit: https://realnessmc.miraheze.org
[18:00:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jonaswirhalt> @everyone CHIEF NAZZIS CHIEF MOTHERFUHKER!!! Visit: https://realnessmc.miraheze.org
[18:08:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude, replying to jonaswirhalt> can someone delete this
[18:08:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> @zppix sorry 2 ping but
[18:11:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> Better to ping @Discord Moderators in general, rather than a singular person for things like this.
[18:11:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> ah
[18:11:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> thank you
[18:11:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <macabreexude> wasn't sure
[18:13:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Handled
[18:16:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> And a great proof of my point, ping the moderator role in general, to ensure the first possible see it, rather than relying on a single person 🙂
[20:13:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thestarlightfantasy> Will the finance page be updated for 2025? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance
[20:15:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> previously it was updated every month or so but things get in the way
[20:15:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I believe it was mentioned that it would soon
[20:15:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Working on it, I'll hopefully be getting view access after the upcoming board meeting and can act as backstop for this.
[21:26:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [1/2] how expensive is this
[21:26:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1373411322322096239/CVXHTP8.png?ex=682a5077&is=6828fef7&hm=8eaca44a6aa7aeddf754f11965b1de2ee6ab241d34c63e5c8b3606602092f859&
[21:26:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> check the parser stats
[21:26:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> they should be displayed somewhere under the edit form iirc
[21:27:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [1/2] is this good or bad
[21:27:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1373411578472304784/6g6xtUZ.png?ex=682a50b5&is=6828ff35&hm=018ac8b899bd6da29aa2c3da3784efb09706c576b929df6090acc89d4ab68dfc&
[21:27:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> assuming like there are like 8 of these
[21:29:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> doesn't look too bad to me, considering there is caching
[21:30:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> pages which use web requests via extensions take way longer to be parsed
[21:31:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> speaking of, is there anyting that can render html tables as a tooltip
[21:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> js
[21:41:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_> you can misuse the cite feature and make a table out of unicode pipes
[21:57:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_, replying to _vrm_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1373419194229723217/cat.mp4?ex=682a57cc&is=6829064c&hm=be92a4366ea0660ea6a79510d87743743863ac22552afc0aa9f0f9cfb5a2ed5a&
[21:57:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_> nvm... works as intended in edit but not read mode
[22:03:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317712767343394839/1331861257413988403/togif.gif
[23:17:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to agentisai> No TM?
[23:17:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> What happened to the Treasurer?
[23:44:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell, replying to pixldev> howd u bold ur tm
[23:45:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> ™️
[23:45:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toastedwell> oh literally just bold it