[00:52:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <revolvingunknown> @rhinosf1 should i submit my import request on phorge since its been in progress for like almost a day now ( 1164 btw)
[02:44:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> [1/2] Anyone know why my wiki looks like this only for me? Just things aren't loading and it isn't an issue with CSS. I'm wondering if I need to reset my cache or something.
[02:44:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374216176694984764/image.png?ex=682d3e0c&is=682bec8c&hm=a9b59af51976c24a6dc49eba91e1f0652cbec5a692e1794c6e136f374a8ae120&
[03:18:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> I experienced something similar like that recently. Files weren't loading on any Miraheze wiki fairly consistently with them randomly coming back occasionally only to break again soon after. It's resolved now after I updated my Macbook
[03:49:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> i seem to be unable to remove $wgWikiSeoDefaultImage ? removing and saving says "No changes were made" but going to the special page again still has it
[05:36:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to revolvingunknown> No, we'll deal with it
[07:16:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> General question for fellow wiki editors
[07:17:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> When writing pages, do you guys follow your own style of writing or do you try to be as faithful as possible to the writing style of the source material?
[07:25:13] <BlankEclair>	 i try to follow the existing style around the page, or across the wiki
[07:25:20] <BlankEclair>	 and if there's nothing, i do my own style (though i haven't had that happen)
[07:28:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm trying to stay encyclopedic? injecting quotes sometimes
[07:29:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on Russian  Borderlands wiki I used to be more loose in writing
[07:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and very much writing article things outside of wikis
[07:35:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_> [1/2] have a wiki for a smaller community, content is nearly all original and the complexity of the writing style reflects how abstracted the topic is, though it also tries to use common language and ideas since it tries to teach people to apply the concepts themselves
[07:35:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_> [2/2] so i guess its my standard, and its as long as someone new could understand it since thats really all that matters
[07:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> So like either having your own style entirely or have a mix then?
[07:37:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_vrm_> i would say a mix, more wiki style when dealing with boilerplate and canon, own style when writing about emergent ideas from them
[07:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to etherealtraveller> It's not even a writing style for me, it's more of an entire wiki style cuz my wikis are structured based on my experience working on the Pikmin Bloom pages on Pikipedia. So my wikis are quite compact but with lots of info on each page.
[07:41:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> So basically, I don't do pages for each item because it's more efficient to put em all in a table
[07:43:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths> I also just don't like the look of pages with very minimal content
[07:57:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> Seems about right
[07:57:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> My original rule of thumb is to follow how Valve writes things (I have a branch wiki for a Valve game)
[07:58:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> But Valve wording is criticized for sounding funny sometimes so I debated on doing it my way
[07:58:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> Even though Valve wording is more canon
[08:24:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn> Personally, I go for a kind of neutral and structured style of writing - which isn't easy at times. Though I don't think I use the original source material wording (the Wiki I work on is for an extensive roleplay world based on canonic material...)
[08:25:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <su35.flanker> [1/2] Hey so how can I change the copyright here to CC BY-NC-SA, I changed it in managewiki and it changed the image but not the text, ive asked this before but the solution did not work (using lang=qqx to see the ID because it still did not show it)
[08:25:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <su35.flanker> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374302041790349382/KdXergY.png?ex=682d8e04&is=682c3c84&hm=d877b45abd1fa58df0b8835540db9bc01abc2618f8047cdfc65b253214c2efe9&
[09:10:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-tagline
[10:13:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> I go for a lighthearted writing style for Equestripedia since if I wrote about technicolor horses in a very academic style I’d probably go insane
[10:37:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to amelialoveheart> Understandable, but it would be incredible to read
[10:42:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> The fandom wiki already does that and it’s lowkey unbearable
[10:53:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to snowstacked> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13724
[10:54:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller, replying to amelialoveheart> Suddenly curious about your wiki, do you have a link?
[10:55:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> I also thought of going full academic given the nature of my wiki/archive but I feel like I'd bore myself out first before anyone reads it, and I had my fair share of scholar crap
[11:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <etherealtraveller> Maybe I should really look into other wikis and adapt how editors there write their work
[12:19:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp38
[15:17:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot, replying to tennisplayer4157> My device seems to be all up to date.
[15:23:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> I'm guessing it was probably because the device was restarted in the process, not because of the update
[15:28:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot, replying to tennisplayer4157> I've restarted my device too.
[15:28:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> And I just deleted all my cookies for Miraheze.
[16:10:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> [1/2] Don't know what else you can do then. This was showing up in the console when the issue was present
[16:10:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374419079317815376/Screenshot_2025-05-14_at_2.png?ex=682dfb03&is=682ca983&hm=a3ef9fc4cdc8a1631c9077d927474d047d441d47d2d732530d2c9186e142f337&
[16:21:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sean_morabitoyt> This is still not resolved. We found an out backup of our svg settings so I've posted it there. https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1372090180596666450/1374421355474456656
[16:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot, replying to tennisplayer4157> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374425634847068240/image.png?ex=682e011e&is=682caf9e&hm=356638c480c6f0354cb8f93ab6194ae8e2c1727633d8187eded9ef520651655a&
[16:36:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> Similar for me.
[16:38:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to mr_oofalot> What wiki?
[16:38:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> https://mythcommunity.miraheze.org/
[16:38:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> I've been told that it looks fine for others.
[16:39:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> So it seems like it is just a me issue.
[16:39:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> Or at least not an everybody issue.
[16:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> Also, it is only doing this for Miraheze and no other websites.
[16:44:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr_oofalot> And it is not just my wiki that isn't loading, it is doing the same thing for other Miraheze wikis.
[18:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365> [1/4] Hello,
[18:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365> [2/4] regarding this: https://nonciclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Discussioni_Nonciclopedia:Bettola/Miraheze_sta_per_toglierci_il_servizio_DNS?curid=193413&diff=2447107&oldid=2447102
[18:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365> [3/4] Can a tech person please explain to Nonciclopedia's bureaucrat how to take the next steps to get their custom domain back?
[18:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365> [4/4] Thank you!
[18:12:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> [1/5] Hello!
[18:12:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> [2/5] A while back, I created a wiki for Exodus, a new game from Archetype that's coming out next year. I knew a FANDOM wiki had also been established and I did try reaching out to one of the admins on there, but they never responded. Eventually, after creating a wiki on Miraheze, the FANOM wiki staff reached out to me, and, after some deliberating, we decided to fuse our two wikis on a ne
[18:12:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> [3/5] w one on Miraheze - details that were included in the request they lodged with Miraheze shortly afterwards (they made a new request instead of simply forking out on FANDOM and onto my wiki so they could retain general ownership - something I could understand, given the time and effort they put into it). However, the person on the FANDOM wiki managing board that requested the new wiki
[18:12:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> [4/5]  got a message saying this new wiki is pending confirmation from my end. In spite of that, I haven't been contacted by Miraheze in any shape or form in order to confirm the merger. Is there any way you can help me with that?
[18:12:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> [5/5] Thanks in advance!
[18:18:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> pending? have you made an import request or something?
[18:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> It's not my request that's pending, it's theirs. There's not been an Import request so far. In fact, the wiki itself hasn't yet been created.
[18:30:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ignivex> So you are waiting on the wiki request to be approved?
[18:31:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> Yes.
[18:32:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> It did also vanish from the queue.
[18:32:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Did you get any emails about it?
[18:33:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ignivex> The only request I see from your account is an approved request for [[mh:exodus]] on May 13
[18:33:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://exodus.miraheze.org/wiki/>
[18:34:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex, replying to pixldev> As I was saying, it wasn't me who lodged the request. It should be a user named ExodusWiki for the following domain: exodusgame.miraheze.org
[18:36:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ignivex> Ag, I see it
[18:36:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It was placed on hold pending review from another reviewer
[18:38:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> Well, that's something I wasn't told. So that means we'll just have to wait for somebody else to manually review the request?
[18:38:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yeah, holds intentionally don’t give notifications I believe
[18:41:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> And is there any way you could give me a rough estimate of how long that's gonna take? Just so I can get back to the requester and fully lay it out for them
[18:44:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ciuf365> Hi
[18:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You will need to follow the instructions on [[Custom Domains]] from scratch again
[18:44:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_Domains?action=edit&redlink=1>
[18:46:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365, replying to rhinosf1> [1/2] Can you please pass the link to User:Fantinaikos? It would be greatly appreciated.
[18:46:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365, replying to rhinosf1> [2/2] Also, the other bureaucrat did a bad practice: made it impossible to reach out to him on his talk page.
[18:46:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ciuf365> I don't speak Italian unfortunately but you're more than welcome to give that link to them
[18:47:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365, replying to rhinosf1> Okay, I will. Also can Miraheze remove rights to inactive staff on the wiki?
[18:47:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ciuf365> See [[SR]] for that one
[18:47:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR>
[18:48:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ciuf365> Ok, thanks!
[18:51:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex, replying to pixldev> And is there any way you could give me a rough estimate of how long that's gonna take? Just so I can get back to the requester and fully lay it out for them
[19:24:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arwencim> How can I create my wiki in other languages?
[19:25:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arwencim> So, for example, it currently contains Turkish and Turkish content, can I install it separately in English?
[19:27:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arwencim> I was going to add an interlanguage link with Wikibase but I can't do that either, wikidata doesn't recognize my site, I guess the steward have to do it
[19:28:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There is a bug with wikibase
[19:28:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We're working on it
[19:29:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But basically option a) is interlanuage links with wikibase b) is use Translate to have multiple languages on one wiki
[19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to arwencim> [1/2] on fandom and wikipedia different language wikis are exactly separate, different instances, supported by different communities
[19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to arwencim> [2/2] this can be done on Miraheze as well, but it also offers Translate extension - examples are Meta Wiki and mediawiki.org, in this case different language pages are exactly translations of whatever is set as original, English in these examples
[19:29:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arwencim, replying to rhinosf1> en.wiki tr.wiki Think like
[19:30:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to arwencim> Ye so wikibase is the correct route
[19:30:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There is a bug with the way we're populating the sites table
[19:30:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you open a Phorge task, we might be able to manually add it in the mean time
[19:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arwencim, replying to rhinosf1> Thanks I opened a ticket
[20:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [1/2] Is there any way to embed audio on the webpage/in a template?
[20:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374484337101246504/M0mKfmr.png?ex=682e37ca&is=682ce64a&hm=0389a886ff1231b9ba08807033f07dfaed04d31fcfcf7b151126db3fd7be16ce&
[20:30:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [1/2] Fandom does it by default.
[20:30:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374484407867408404/wgW3egj.png?ex=682e37db&is=682ce65b&hm=86bffdac253135f8ecf4d9ecfd4d5b1bb7b8402b473c276dad86d1fe6a846143&
[20:32:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to 90gq29> Yeah, I just forget which extension
[20:32:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to 90gq29> TimedMediaHandler
[20:33:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> Thanks.
[20:40:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [1/2] Also, is there a way to restrict image searches to just stuff on your wiki?
[20:40:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374486913398083684/qcbEq7x.png?ex=682e3a30&is=682ce8b0&hm=e59590fddc6d90897e6ee7d28dcd199106818185c91adb975c824b0cf7190789&
[20:40:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> None of these images are on the wiki, but they're showing up in search results.
[20:45:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to 90gq29> they're from either miraheze or wikimedia commons
[20:47:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29, replying to abaddriverlol> is there a way to not have those show up or am i out of luck
[20:48:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to 90gq29> is that the images menu from VE?
[20:49:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29, replying to abaddriverlol> it is yeah
[20:52:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to 90gq29> i think if you turn commons of these images should disappear to
[20:52:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> let me find the setting
[20:52:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374490022815862964/image.png?ex=682e3d16&is=682ceb96&hm=5bb873fec479fa14d0573d641b94bb2d6e7593095419ce4bd58713cbecc20322&
[20:56:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29, replying to abaddriverlol> worked
[20:56:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> thank you
[21:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [1/3] is there any particular reason as to why there’s a flag of the indian army automatically uploaded to a wiki that has no relationship with the indian army whatsoever 
[21:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [2/3] (I only came across this because i was trying to find another file that had the same name)
[21:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374494902955544656/IMG_5829.png?ex=682e41a1&is=682cf021&hm=19480ee7de8d519ba36806c36ccc84f7bfd2dd806fe1ed02c0d9d54adf4a9c29&
[21:14:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> at least it's an svg
[21:14:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to chenopodium_quinoa> [1/2] literally discussed before your message lol
[21:14:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to chenopodium_quinoa> [2/2] it got linked from Wikipedia's file vault
[21:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> this can be turned off
[21:20:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i dont know how to read 💔
[21:35:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to blankeclair> Morning
[21:35:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> And good night
[22:00:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to rhinosf1> nini xD
[22:45:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to ignivex> my apologies for the confusion, I was the one who was seeking confirmation from the bureaucrat of exodus.miraheze.org
[22:47:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex, replying to raidarr> No problem. I'm said bureaucrat — and yes, I confirm the merger.
[22:48:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to ignivex> Would you like dumps of the text/images from the wiki you made? It is now deleted but I made backups
[22:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> I would if that's alright.
[22:55:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to ignivex> [1/3] the image folder is a little messy, that's how it comes in I'm afraid
[22:55:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to ignivex> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374520884345442394/exoduswiki_image_0cda9ff36db17679d9b5.tar.gz?ex=682e59d4&is=682d0854&hm=8d4e153ab2f04ad3aa9cd165a777fa08e0969467e711beabb5662f3139913adc&
[22:55:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to ignivex> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1374520885058211871/exoduswiki_xml_5ef24cd39580b37af84a.xml.gz?ex=682e59d4&is=682d0854&hm=5b269e54e6166c7fa295d71f67ecd7c83370228924f2408cde098de2cfc80c10&
[22:55:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there weren't many of them iirc
[22:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> Thank you!
[22:57:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> I should be able to import these into the new wiki, right?
[22:58:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yep, that should work, although it could be messy if there are existing pages with those titles in what the fandom wiki imports. Then the newer material is what will display
[23:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ignivex> Then that shouldn't be too much of a problem. I didn't have the chance to create that many "normal pages" anyway. I'm more interested in the templates, modules, and the wiki/skin CSS.