[01:45:23] Hello? [05:43:17] man [05:43:20] time zones [05:43:32] it depends on browsers [09:04:19] I was using the same browser for both [09:35:09] Soo what's Libera? [09:36:30] woah [09:36:35] that's me [09:36:50] Omg it goes both ways [09:40:01] So are there any benefits for using Libera or is this just here because it was made and when it was made it was useful but uhm now it's just here doing nothing [09:58:51] Libera is used by users who may not want to join the Discord, and is also where are tech monitoring alerts are sent in -tech-ops and such. Beyond that both platforms are practically identical use wise [09:59:14] Miraheze did use IRC first however before we started using Discord [09:59:59] Were they asking for the benefits of using Libera over Discord? Like, the benefits of not using a heavy proprietary chat client that constantly tries to sell you stuff? [10:01:30] See I dislike the whole proprietary argument, while yes open source is inherently better unless society does a complete 180, proprietary is always going to exist [10:07:41] I don't mind it existing, but it being proprietary is the reason you can't turn off the shop. [10:35:17] [1/2] Yeah, tried to import IIWiki's commons.php file, but the result is the same (the table's not floating): [10:35:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376871378040520784/image.png?ex=6836e6e5&is=68359565&hm=c0f59b43fbcbb18f92aa6b6e0829f0c4af88a9d3c761c89b818ce995a4c0c5d6& [10:35:35] @theoneandonlylegroom @asko1 [10:35:45] @blankeclair [10:36:13] i'll take a look at it post-shower [10:36:20] assuming adhd and hyperfocus allows [10:37:24] Well, here's the link to my wiki's own file: https://terramir.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [10:38:33] [1/2] please don't ping me, i literally might be busy [10:38:33] [2/2] anyone here who's online might help [10:39:05] and that's not php lol, that's css [10:51:32] shower: completed [10:57:56] these styles are of interest: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/94c691bdb108e79028109b8459b41bc2b6c2c1ac/resources/src/mediawiki.skinning/content.thumbnails-common.less [10:59:38] Yeah coypasted that and it doesn't work [10:59:47] oh? [11:00:15] [1/2] yeah, the table still doesn't float [11:00:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376877660336295966/image.png?ex=6836ecbf&is=68359b3f&hm=286fe9b348ac5e4a7e1ee580ff27deaeb378377d307d41e97391c712cce4662d& [11:00:43] I mean you could check to see for yourself: https://terramir.miraheze.org/wiki/Ausonia#Religion [11:01:58] where did you copy it? [11:04:01] First, Wikipedia, then IIWiki [11:07:34] ...where to? [11:12:53] I just copied and pasted it (or rather overwrote it) onto my wiki file: https://terramir.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [11:13:19] ctrl+f shows no tleft or tright? [11:14:51] I don't recall. I just copypasted from the link you showed me, and I'm actually going out and reverting to Wikipedia's commons file [11:15:11] oh, caching [11:17:54] what does that mean? [11:34:09] <_arawynn> It can take a while for changes in CSS to be visible for you [11:38:54] Well tell me, does it float on your end? [11:44:18] It does not for me [11:48:06] @ieph it doesnt work because you havent imported the skin css from your old wiki (vector.css) [11:49:02] actually it might be something else [12:08:02] i'll be honest i have no idea where the CSS for those classes is coming from [12:51:38] [1/9] @ieph hi, so here's the thing: that's basically some legacy code that is not enabled on MH wikis and you'll have to replicate the CSS yourself [12:51:38] [2/9] fortunately you dont have to do the entire thing [12:51:39] [3/9] adding this to common.css should do the thing: [12:51:39] [4/9] ``` [12:51:39] [5/9] div.tleft { [12:51:39] [6/9] float: left; [12:51:40] [7/9] clear: left; [12:51:40] [8/9] } [12:51:40] [9/9] ``` [13:06:17] (big thanks to the cutest @blankeclair for straight up telling me the issue helping me figure it out) [14:05:09] Do I have to pu this at the end there? [14:06:56] [1/2] Like this @asko1 [14:06:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376924637891661835/image.png?ex=6837187f&is=6835c6ff&hm=2f8a2677655dbe595e4fe827af3319c043699445cc77863c46dfce6c57edfd90& [14:07:48] yeah that oughta do it [14:08:23] surprised the warnings are actually on point for once [14:13:33] [1/2] Yeah, it still doesn't work even with the changes. [14:13:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376926303344918689/image.png?ex=68371a0c&is=6835c88c&hm=b8c48149c44e04b33db8849e216ee9e00183c764602d0a2c9745f29d9216f740& [14:13:47] [1/2] This despite the fact the code is in there. [14:13:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376926361159073792/image.png?ex=68371a1a&is=6835c89a&hm=5931d55508f09aac1bcf65c8bc078a51369ade3ace6b064052fe4850d682780f& [14:13:52] https://terramir.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [14:14:09] I mean, you could try and edit this out yourself [14:14:57] caching most likely [14:15:04] protected by default [14:16:06] How do I set the protections so that you can coem in there and fix it [14:17:08] [1/3] unrecommended, besides, it worked [14:17:08] [2/3] also add `margin: 0.5em 1.4em 1.3em 0` to tleft [14:17:08] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376927203463270551/image.png?ex=68371ae3&is=6835c963&hm=91b42d30093c1fda353024c583324b9917ef911160b8c8cb398c2b2605dd5431& [14:18:24] permissions to edit MW namespace pages is usually granted through the `interface-administrator` group [14:18:50] [1/2] Like this: [14:18:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376927631743778907/image.png?ex=68371b49&is=6835c9c9&hm=66a25a8aa504c421e3785112cf29aefb79f8fa98a7303d1463da320844a39161& [14:19:05] probably not correct for tright, let me see if i can find it [14:19:59] `margin: 0.5em 0 1.3em 1.4em;` for tright [14:26:05] did it work? [14:26:30] purge the page [14:26:44] should be under "tools" [14:27:45] [1/2] The spacing doesn't work [14:27:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376929877877325906/image.png?ex=68371d61&is=6835cbe1&hm=d48982ddd5165945fde91077c8e3895ba83552db10e4336e9bc838ecea6f1963& [14:32:54] [1/2] lol [14:32:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376931172449386536/image.png?ex=68371e95&is=6835cd15&hm=d5c531245f75fa03c552a24b80491cd9e2ac5cce048870879498bdcd6e07d87e& [14:33:21] oh OK [15:57:57] [1/2] Quick question, does this mean that I have to file a request with the code for FeaturedFeeds if I want to set up a Page of the Day thing? [15:57:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376952576515510543/b90c51f16e23aec4a81c57d8ca4e4f53.png?ex=68373284&is=6835e104&hm=cc6dfc2c22581701e8eb1b04215e4f089c6f49bb684b6c53fa7b3069582aaee2& [16:02:25] maybe [16:08:03] Also how are content pages counted again? I did 39 full write ups on articles so far but my statistics only said there's 26 [16:11:11] in namespace settings [16:11:42] by default only main namespace counted as content pages [16:14:04] Gotcha, I also saw it mentioned something about a internal wikilink [16:18:49] oh yeah, i don't remember details tho [16:23:27] Think I figured it out anyways ty ty [17:31:23] Would it be possible to request permission changes via a steward here? We've tried the steward requests via the meta page but I'm not sure if it went through [17:42:31] i guess the form glitches again [17:43:06] you can add a request manually via source editor [17:51:46] thanks, would this also work for wikis hosted on wikitide ? i don't see an option to change the subdomain [17:53:01] [1/2] wikitide is essentially miraheze so yeah [17:53:01] [2/2] but i suppose this had to be requested via phorge? im not sure [18:04:42] would it be possible to just talk to one directly? this one is a little complicated [18:12:17] What’s the request for, if it’s something more complicated probably best to mark on wiki, if it’s a routine mishap fix discord is probably fine [18:13:17] its bureau perms being abused, editing wars, that kind of stuff, basically off-site drama being pushed onto a wiki [18:13:29] hard to solve without external intervention because of the horizontal power structure [18:13:54] Ooooookay then, that should go on wiki. [18:14:08] I love this gadget but it always breaks at the worst miments [18:14:39] Are you able to edit the page directly to add the request do you know [18:15:35] i can try, it'll probably be janky [18:16:34] I can fix the formatting if needed [18:16:46] I feel like maybe that form should just be removed, until it can be properly tested at least, Seems to be a LOT of people having issues with it [18:17:07] I wouldn’t say remove it, but maybe add a backup option yea [18:17:30] May be more worth while to just spend the time investigating the issues [18:17:48] wiki tag???? [18:18:05] answer them first sorry [18:18:13] @suzuneu I believe you were looking into the RfXHelper eating requests before yes? [18:19:46] I mean editing the page directly is the backup option?, but seem like a lot of people, just don't realise that if it doesn't appear on the page, it didn't go through. At the very least, should probably instruct the user then to make sure their request appears on the page then. [18:20:02] Yeah [18:21:38] Not wrong but the best solution would be to just fix the thing tbh, telling them to verify is good though [18:24:00] I mean sure, but with MH being volunteer based and all, the timeline for fixing things that are not critical for the servers themselves to run, does tend to be lengthy, so it more like something shortterm should probably be done to ensure request don't disappear into the aether [18:24:39] Not gonna disagree [18:25:01] If you wanna [[WP:BEBOLD]] and add something I would welcome it, I’m gonna be a bit swamped today probably [18:25:02]

[18:29:35] It seems like doing it manually worked, the form must be bugged as there was something submitted yesterday [18:32:17] [1/2] I want to do something with the Mass Upload extension so that it automatically adds a category to it, so I can keep track them and can add the necessary information later on. [18:32:18] [2/2] Does any one know if that's possible and if so, how I could do that ? Would be really help me a lot in the long run. [18:54:25] [1/2] If I could somehow edit this automatic text, I think that would solve all my issues [18:54:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1376996987190251641/image.png?ex=68375be1&is=68360a61&hm=2e55a888dc08f744d019aacd2b2edbbd48db4fed29a5b441a552bf0989bae7ca& [19:01:47] Or alternatively, just a way to have categories added to any file, that'd probably be better. [19:32:19] <22poptartz> [1/2] is there a way to put line breaks in tables without the text looking like this? [19:32:19] <22poptartz> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1377006525209645146/image.png?ex=683764c3&is=68361343&hm=cf7540a5308130df4c8b54893b34a447bc3327e9462a663172417b7aa34249cb& [19:35:28] don't leave space break in the beginning of new line [19:38:13] <22poptartz> thanks [19:38:16] <22poptartz> that fixed it [19:52:37] you can edit this text at `MediaWiki:msu-comment` in your wiki [19:52:48] Thank you so much [20:15:47] @abaddriverlol @pixldev so its been a few days and i literally have not experienced any of the issues i was experiencing after disabling MF so i think that is infact the culprit [21:03:41] The Prosecution will be pressing charges against MobileFrontend soon. [21:08:11] Hooray! 🎉 [21:15:34] nice! [23:17:07] [1/2] Hey ho everyone I requested a wiki yesterday and I just wanted to ask about the approval process and wait times. The automatic approval thingie said it couldn't evaluate my request. Do I just wait? Or is there something I could or should do? The request was already very detailed and specific. Is the automated approval process just not suited to requests outside of videogame wikis? Or [23:17:07] [2/2] did I do something wrong?https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/60125#mw-section-details [23:18:03] If I should just be patient that is fine, I just wanted to ask if I made a mistake somewhere [23:18:17] yeah just wait [23:18:17] seems fine to me, the ai probably just goofed up [23:18:20] normal ai fuckup [23:19:19] [1/2] yeah just wait patiently [23:19:19] [2/2] in my honest opinion as a random guy, it will probably be approved [23:24:22] [1/2] Usally means one of two things: [23:24:22] [2/2] *The AI endpoint is currently unreachable [23:40:41] how hungry is requestqueue [23:41:27] Is there some sorta way I can see the status of a pending custom domain request / will I be told if its successful or not, or it just a matter of repeatedly checking until it works [23:42:40] [1/2] should've gotten a link after sending the request to follow it [23:42:40] [2/2] you can gently draw attention from tech team members but do so at your own risk [23:43:30] yeaaa I think I remember smth hyperlinked after I sent the req but I closed that tab and cant find another way 💀 so basically my own stupidity [23:43:45] oopsie woopsie [23:44:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestSSLQueue [23:44:20] thank you :) [23:45:55] that should be linked both in [[Special:RequestSSL]] and [[Custom domains]] ngl [23:46:09]

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[2/2] [23:46:10] Probably. I'll see about an update when I have time [23:46:23] awesome! [23:48:21] Not sure if I can modify the specialpage, but I'll take a look in our github repo [23:56:01] [[Special:AllMessages]] look for `requestssl-text` [23:56:02]

[23:58:48] Ah, hmmm, so it's getting pulled from translatewiki.net most likely. I need to step out, will come back to this later. [23:59:34] oof bureaucracy [23:59:44] slowly starting to see why they're called bureaucrats