[01:06:08] oh the grow a garden wiki main page just redirects to fisch [01:06:53] mild vandalism [01:10:29] On Miraheze? [01:10:38] yea [01:10:44] prb a cvt thing [01:12:44] Link? [01:13:02] https://growagarden.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?oldid=371 [01:13:14] most of the wiki has been vandalized [01:15:58] I can’t believe I have to ask this but what’s the last good revision [01:17:13] [1/2] i think its this one [01:17:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1377818096404009051/image.png?ex=683a5898&is=68390718&hm=ece27ee71231d959163f874984783cf51e075b5ec6c8addbc7c8d852d22d9a65& [01:17:53] https://growagarden.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?oldid=317 ? [01:17:55] wait [01:18:20] Are there any active admins? [01:18:39] i wouldnt know i was just trying to find the wiki [01:18:43] and it led to fisch [01:18:51] okay [01:18:52] i did like 5 takebacks [01:18:57] There looks to be like [01:18:59] 3 vandals [01:19:36] so per the CVT mandate, I’m just gonna revert, curb this by semi-protecting the page and dump this on the admins lap [01:22:54] I forgot logged in protection is a thing [01:25:40] Fixed hopefully [01:25:47] if i messed up the revery lmk [01:26:13] 👍 [01:34:30] Can I just rename/move the main page of a wiki? Or does that mess everything up? Basically I just would like the main Page to not say Main Page anymore in the title [01:35:10] You can change the page name but you must also change it in MediaWiki:Mainpage [01:37:51] How do I do that? [01:38:27] You click move button on main page to change the name [01:38:41] You change page title in MediaWiki:Mainpage [03:12:43] ok I think I figured it out [03:12:54] thank you! [05:12:54] How do I generate a list of all pages on a wiki for export reasons? [05:16:22] Special:AllPages [05:40:43] I ultimately had to make an import request after manually copying the text from special:allpages to special:export. [05:42:41] If it's a public wiki, we can do it for you [05:43:05] Fandom you can also request a dump on [[Special:Statistics]] too [05:43:06] [05:43:24] We will happily process the import for you [05:49:43] It was a site, also I should probably note that the wiki I am copying has leftover garbage images as it covered content of more than one project at 1 point. [05:50:27] Ok [07:08:53] is it just me or am i not able to download images straight from multimediaviewer [07:09:01] like when i open an image and hold it i could download it [09:26:31] [[User:Raidarr/Miraheze Monthly/May 2025]] [09:26:32] [09:26:59] yeah, bot dint behave in that channel [09:27:05] link is updated [09:32:47] How do you add the discord icon and the discord link in the citizen sidebar? [09:34:14] [1/8] Hey Volunteers! [09:34:15] [2/8] So recently, I tried to archive every image from the old Mapping Wiki that was previously on Fandom, There were about 150-500 images saved from the old wiki which may sound alot, but there far more that are sadly not archived and deleted by Fandom in late January, hopefully you guys find a way to bring these files back. I am aware about the ArchiveBot discord bot and if possi [09:34:15] [3/8] ble, to dump every image from the wiki. I'll give you some links and files that will help [09:34:15] [4/8] https://mappingwiki.org/ - Current Mapping Wiki [09:34:16] [5/8] https://themapping.fandom.com/ Old Mapping Wiki [09:34:16] [6/8] Below are the XML files of the old one to find which files to download [09:34:16] [7/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1377943177780002886/diarchymapping_pages_current.xml.7z?ex=683acd16&is=68397b96&hm=3cd95cea0daba77dac770b47439564a55cff870208e3b685582edaa9bb374ceb& [09:34:17] [8/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1377943178119745547/diarchymapping_pages_full.xml.7z?ex=683acd16&is=68397b96&hm=80dc7b36fa9dbd7048b78fcbd94ef267c2551bbe0f3f24ff6747e093d5ba98cb& [09:37:44] @dardanilbmapper hi, please try https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImport with the _full version 🙂 [09:39:08] Will it dump images? I am pretty sure this has already been done to the wiki if you are talking about the pages [09:39:31] what I want is to dump every single image and import it to the miraheze wiki [10:07:23] Someone know the Echo in Massmessage [10:10:57] Hello everyone! I just created the LudoGlossia wiki. I have no idea what I'm doing, but the gist is that LudoGlossia tracks and documents pop culture localizations of particular motifs and how they're commented on by the game, so that it's easier to understand what the games are trying to say in their original language and how companies try to bridge the cultural divide. [10:37:42] should be fixed? [10:46:37] No, XMLs don't contain images. You can read about what to do for images here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze#Moving_from_Fandom [11:31:45] [1/3] I should've made this clear but I meant to dump the right images, the XML file has a batch of those and it contains the names of all the files [11:31:45] [2/3] I only realized this now but the new Mapping wiki has names for the files too so I suggest use this page to track down missing files [11:31:45] [3/3] https://mappingwiki.org/wiki/Special:WantedFiles [12:55:29] [1/2] My wiki is down but I don't see any announcements saying there are any outages. Is it just me? 😮 [12:55:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1377993821417111582/image.png?ex=683afc40&is=6839aac0&hm=b97955d6e27c1c6eb192ade914b0c1fc247a36bc112fca6b3b7b833b9bb1a68b& [12:55:51] give it a sec [12:55:57] Okay. 😄 [12:56:06] Oh it worked now. [12:56:08] Strange. [12:56:18] Guess I was too quick on the draw to report it immediately. [12:56:22] Where can I request adding the Relpace Text extension to my wiki? [12:57:36] Phorge [13:30:43] [1/2] is there a way to enable this extension? [13:30:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378002676599492658/image.png?ex=683b0480&is=6839b300&hm=86628c989ecd89df99d6b7a68c2bce9feed66e5a1b41a6be6b0fe86552c0fcef& [13:31:24] it's essentially a dead extension, nowadays no sane wiki has it [13:31:51] you see im not sane [13:32:25] [1/2] but you won't be the one to deal w/ fatal errors and security risks [13:32:25] [2/2] miraheze tech team would [13:33:20] so there is no way to enable it right? [13:34:08] [1/2] ask on phorge, i guess [13:34:09] [2/2] click the task number link to see details [13:36:37] Unlikely we'll enable it. It has security issues [13:36:51] it was somewhat patched a few months ago but iirc that didn't alleviate all the concerns we had. [13:37:32] i would if it gave me access [13:45:24] Its a private task [13:46:47] ah rip [13:56:02] i mean what's the point of pointing to them without letting us know more on why it was disabled lol [14:14:45] WikiForum is being looked at by @.labster [14:18:57] Consider the reason WikiForum is still around as being legacy support for already-enabled instances that have no alternative. We don't enable it for new wikis. [14:19:37] Hopefully we'll one day have something we can solidly recommend as an alternative. 🙂 [14:33:23] DPLForum is something else that i know of [15:02:49] There is no legacy support for already enabled one. It's globally disabled. [15:03:08] It's still there so we can re-enable it should a fix ever come which is fairly possible. [15:03:26] @.labster was working on improving code standard. [15:03:52] We only remove extensions when there's no / very little chance of them ever coming back. [15:29:12] Oh! My knowledge is/was out of date then. [15:29:50] Labster's project - I'd understood that as a brand new distinct extension, not a refactor for the existing extension's codebase? [15:32:10] Oh, or was I conflating this with the whole structuredDiscussions/discussionTools thing? [15:43:40] I can tell you from experience that wikiforum was kinda hard to use and super messy [15:43:46] Not really worth it I’m afraid [16:04:59] Can you make a page name italicized? Or would it just show up as ''Page Name'' [16:06:05] CSS will do the job [16:06:24] ^ if you want all of them be like that [16:08:24] could probably do it with a templatestyles if you really want to italicize select pages [16:08:48] doesn't displaytitle does that too? [16:09:00] good point [16:09:12] pretty sure that's what wikipedia does [16:09:14] Was juts curious because, if it was possible, I'd like the name of book pages to be italicized (as book titles typically are). [16:09:39] It's not a huge deal though [16:09:49] yeah, displaytitle seems to be your friend here [16:09:56] you need to jump into additional settings admin menu, and swap checkboxes of "allow DISPLAYTITLE" and "restrict ..." [16:10:11] (it should be allowed, not restricted) [16:10:51] [1/2] This? [16:10:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378042988340445194/image.png?ex=683b2a0b&is=6839d88b&hm=03af92a2b93ea5b9237be0f33349f679d1a82c08300472ca0a6bc0c59093d3fe& [16:11:20] So should I disable restrict display title? [16:11:56] (both were enabled when I checked) [16:12:08] huh [16:12:28] yeah, make restrict one unchecked [16:12:39] you dont actually need it to be unrestricted for formatting [16:13:59] man i hate these settings [16:16:44] So do I use the magic word on the page that's title is being affected? [16:17:37] yeah, `{{DISPLAYTITLE:`...`}}` [16:17:44] yup something like {{DISPLAYTITLE:''pageName''}} [16:18:02] the `''`...`''` for italics [16:18:14] i wonder if you could make it a template [16:18:31] i tried to check how actually wp does it but idk [16:18:45] there's no magic words [16:19:24] There sure are a lot of them lol [16:19:36] lots of customization is good :p [16:19:42] I think I spent my first several hours on Miraheze just exploring them [16:19:49] and testing out what some of them did [16:19:56] no it's the just displaytitle ones are always source of confusion [16:20:14] this is correct newcomer behavior [16:20:21] omw to explain the difference between a page title and a displaytitle to a beginner [16:21:36] I remember how overwhelmed I was when I first saw source a little less than a year ago. [16:21:41] but Fandom is using it [16:22:10] Nobody know the echo function in massage [16:22:16] used before wikia brand was thrown away [16:22:19] Lots of trial and error [16:22:44] (and snooping at the pages of other wikis) [16:23:04] I can copy the list from special page about specify users? [16:23:10] i know how wiki forum works, used it w/ other admin on one big wiki, we were against its renoval [16:24:28] no until now [16:25:00] what fandom has is not wikiforum, it's their own thing [16:26:24] and fandom doesn't like sharing w/ the rest mediawiki folks [16:27:19] Fandom is like the North Korea of wikifarms (half joking). [16:28:00] Though I'll say, the way they handle wiki-corporate communcication is... it's odd I'll say [16:28:14] they seed their paid moderators into the discords and admin teams of bigger wikis [16:28:17] i think it must be something worse to be compared to nk [16:28:33] they do? [16:28:44] the representative program was nuked previous year [16:29:35] well I know some function not open-sources [16:29:40] yeah, they a while back on the Nukapedia editor discord they tried enforcing a cooldown on the general channel despite the server being "unofficial" in the regard that Fandom doesn't own the server. Some other mods made it on their own. [16:30:02] Hell, they actually managed to get the cooldown enforced for a while [16:30:27] huh [16:30:51] They tend to forget that 99% of editors are... volunteers, not employees. [16:31:52] seems like belief from their higher ups lol [16:33:30] Their "threats" of replacing mods with Fandom approved mods have weight, yeah. But like, they act like they're threatening to fire them. Nobody's lives are riding on their rank on a Fandom wiki. It'd suck but at the end of the day they're just a volunteer, they aren't being paid—except for the select paid ones, but they're very loyal to Fandom. [16:33:37] This is only a thing with big wikis though [16:33:41] like the big boys [16:34:15] Nukapedia and Minecraft (before they broke free) are the only two I know for certain had this stuff going on [16:35:18] there's indie fallout wiki [16:35:24] same case [16:35:27] At the end of the day fandom is a company. And, as a company, they will do what they deme best to make money. [16:35:37] I don't like them (whole thing) [16:35:44] But the founder/owner isn't a good person [16:38:30] The important distinction is they didn’t found that wiki yo escape fandom or anything. Kate created that wiki because she took over the Fandom one, completely devastated it (deleting hundreds of pages), and then when she finally got usurped and banned from Fandom for the harm she did. She went off to create her own wiki—taking her supporters with her. [16:39:46] Anyways, yeah. I’d love if Nukapedia left Fandom. But the uh, Independent Wiki that exists. It just isn’t it lol. [16:54:47] <34.29cm> [1/3] Hi, very random, but does anyone know why "link=" is stretching my image, and if I can keep it... without the stretching? [16:54:47] <34.29cm> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378054043468824726/image.png?ex=683b3456&is=6839e2d6&hm=ea468bb5cebde853abd81c1449ad4267ecd9c66771e229c8ed6ecc15aefe15b2& [16:54:47] <34.29cm> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378054043682865243/image.png?ex=683b3457&is=6839e2d7&hm=6863b3e1914bd897cc2051f7bf0e5430890bb57bafb053d6f0a14286c0fc58d8& [16:58:19] you checked w/ element inspector, they really get different heights? [16:58:25] sounds like a bug [17:00:53] <34.29cm> [1/2] Ah, for some reason changing another image on the page fixed it, and it's not longer stretched. I guess we'll never know...? [17:00:53] <34.29cm> [2/2] Some empty space at the bottom of the image was also being ignored, but no longer is. I'm confused by this one but at least it fixed itself [17:02:18] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [17:02:55] sometimes things render strangely [17:09:37] I am worried about thr monopoly and censorship appearing in some Fandom wikis. Does Fanfom has democracy? [17:10:21] The company is a company, run like a company [17:10:43] Individual wikis are wikis, free to govern themselves, by consensus of their editors [17:11:29] <34.29cm> (or their admins rofl) [17:11:42] I have known that the usage of Massmessage, thanks [19:35:44] [1/3] How would you go about making the sidebar look similar to the image on the right? [19:35:45] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378094543001485413/IMG_5613.png?ex=683b5a0e&is=683a088e&hm=3fa6135908dcaf9c36ca14e266a738542222647ecdbaafd0752efe934d7c7f28& [19:35:45] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378094543458668574/IMG_5614.png?ex=683b5a0e&is=683a088e&hm=7535c803b71dedeaead6f6b1d880350e070199c157b399bee90619d6c1cdd937& [19:37:23] mods we need CSS letters or logo emoji [19:46:15] vector 2022's main menu is called ``` div#vector-main-menu-pinned-container.vector-pinned-container``` on css [20:30:50] [1/6] Hello, me and my friends are in the process of moving a wiki and I got stuck being in charge of the layout and all that. [20:30:50] [2/6] I decided to use the Timeless skin as I just like the look of it the most out of all the base skins. [20:30:50] [3/6] I've managed to get relatively far from just playing with CSS and such but there's still a lot I have yet to figure out. [20:30:51] [4/6] One that has been bothering me the most is where the Wiki Tools box is. [20:30:51] [5/6] Is it possible to move the Wiki Tools over to the right side of the page instead of awkwardly at the bottom of the left section? [20:30:51] [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378108413640314880/image.png?ex=683b66f9&is=683a1579&hm=d6da37824c91f90afaa35f569e24bcb79f38bc69fffceb5249e242e0b58065b5& [20:36:52] [1/7] via JS that's possible, example: [20:36:52] [2/7] ```js [20:36:52] [3/7] $(document).ready(() => { [20:36:53] [4/7] $("#site-tools").appendTo( $( '#mw-related-navigation' ) ); [20:36:53] [5/7] }); [20:36:53] [6/7] ``` [20:36:54] [7/7] (to use it, add it to MediaWiki:Common.js; it should work with all skins in theory) [20:42:11] [1/3] Great! [20:42:11] [2/3] Perfect, thank you! [20:42:11] [3/3] I haven't messed with js at all yet so this is good to know 👍 [20:48:54] hey [20:54:49] [1/8] A couple of other base things I am stuck on: [20:54:49] [2/8] 1. How do I change the default link colour from blue to a custom colour? [20:54:50] [3/8] 2. How do I change the background of the sidebar boxes to be a different colour from white? [20:54:50] [4/8] 3. I can't seem to find the piece of coding to change the page and sidebar box outlines. [20:54:50] [5/8] 4. What code do I need to change the colour of this green bar and the text colour on the bottom legal box? [20:54:50] [6/8] 5. I also can't seem to find the coding for the background colour of the search bar ribbon either. [20:54:51] [7/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378114449923375114/image.png?ex=683b6c98&is=683a1b18&hm=02199de29a6749900682f8fd5c338553d10412035a2966857e4b691e7df36007& [20:54:51] [8/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1378114450271371408/image.png?ex=683b6c99&is=683a1b19&hm=0f06732ca751efc27d17401db2d4cfe2f32bc5bd0518ead4b44f5da5958b6a98& [21:13:10] <34.29cm> [1/11] 1. Default link colour is done with "a" in the site's CSS. See here https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_link.asp [21:13:11] <34.29cm> [2/11] 4. [21:13:11] <34.29cm> [3/11] ```#mw-content-container { [21:13:11] <34.29cm> [4/11] border-bottom: [Green border properties]; [21:13:12] <34.29cm> [5/11] } [21:13:12] <34.29cm> [6/11] .mw-footer-container { [21:13:12] <34.29cm> [7/11] color: [Legal text colour]; [21:13:12] <34.29cm> [8/11] } [21:13:13] <34.29cm> [9/11] .mw-footer-container a { [21:13:13] <34.29cm> [10/11] color: [Miraheze link colours]; [21:13:13] <34.29cm> [11/11] }``` [21:16:04] btw all those elements can be found with Ctrl+Shift+C in most browsers and clicking on the sought element. That'll open the inspect element menu, with css rules found under the styles tab [21:18:45] Oh, that's great to know, thank you! [21:30:54] [1/2] I can't believe I didn't think of the inspect element window before DX [21:30:54] [2/2] It's so much easier! XD [21:46:18] makes the whole process of finding rules insanely easy and fast hah [21:46:46] [1/2] Oh yes XD [21:46:46] [2/2] Thank you very much! [22:20:28] 🙂 [22:47:09] The finances are impressive. [22:47:22] 👀 [23:06:26] I'm trying to learn how to edit the appearance of my wiki, I tried finding stuff and editing Common.css but I don't really know what I'm doing, I just mainly tried to change the background color as a starting point. Does any one know a good guide for this stuff ? [23:07:23] I think someones doing the same thing above... might read that actually [23:55:06] I am not sure I understand infoboxes. Can i create custom infoboxes for just one wiki? Or are infoboxes a mediawiki-wide default thing? [23:59:08] You can customize them for the purpose of your wiki.