[00:08:11] is it possible to get ctrl f to trigger the wiki search and replace instead? [00:14:49] Crtl f no [00:14:57] There’s some tools and extensions [02:58:19] [1/2] so it looks like images on my wiki won't display [02:58:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380017869504516207/image.png?ex=6842594b&is=684107cb&hm=b31cef888b83c1708b71ac39a51b1e67c555504b7d610692e2acf033a4d1b33c& [02:58:53] [1/2] yup, I seem to have the same issue as others from few months ago [02:58:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380018011880161331/image.png?ex=6842596d&is=684107ed&hm=ebd0dc82a5c5efe0c8aae2e04b7ee85629fe59fcffff8b83489c755148ba9fe5& [02:59:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380018084672180304/image.png?ex=6842597e&is=684107fe&hm=0aa5ceeb002826c82b6405882b44c369f20f26d0f0ab1f30ca4666890a4c08ba& [03:01:38] is there a way to fix this? [03:39:24] nevermind, i think it's the image aspect ratio that's why its not displaying [06:14:58] [1/2] Hi, can someone check why I can't upload file? [06:14:59] [2/2] [0226d144ed0e05d297d7da5d] Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [06:17:13] I something going on with Wikimedia Commons? [06:17:29] I've noticed acrossed two wikis now that images from Commons aren't displaying [06:19:10] first it was Question.svg, which I chalked up to some other editor or maybe even my browser. But now The Blue Marble (5052124705).jpg on my personal wiki isn't working either. [06:20:30] To be clear, images I've uploaded work fine. [06:20:37] In all instances. [06:20:48] It's just images taken with Wikimedia Commons. [06:21:51] Same [06:23:17] Their servers must be on the fritz or something. Hopefully not an attack or anthing—maybe maintence? But I feel we would've been notified of that. [06:33:21] Likely some bug from MH cuz common server is working normally [06:54:29] Still an issue? [06:55:04] Let me check [06:56:32] [1/5] Appears so on both wikis. [06:56:32] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380077813633253376/Screenshot_2025-06-04_235520.png?ex=6842911f&is=68413f9f&hm=3391b926145d465ad0aeddcf7bd9748aa7830fe5c095e6c1171adda42d16ef4a& [06:56:32] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380077813880852572/Screenshot_2025-06-04_235528.png?ex=6842911f&is=68413f9f&hm=c6cf472d58b75d22986c2b386f50f55683b4b0e88813eab9b564b6ffbe631e94& [06:56:32] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380077814111277217/Screenshot_2025-06-04_235559.png?ex=6842911f&is=68413f9f&hm=c4767c4066a3cf6f8970ab46340d521027035bd27709c331af45190eb4527a7c& [06:56:33] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380077814409199616/Screenshot_2025-06-04_235613.png?ex=6842911f&is=68413f9f&hm=00127c1a18865c2c1afe9fc0cd829f604d7e83c2bdae63aa5c6a85a189924a78& [06:57:03] Try purge the page? [06:57:07] @the_mrbob [06:57:21] What does purging do? I've never done it before. [06:57:37] clear the cache on our side [06:58:01] No change. [06:58:26] `?action=purge` sometimes works better than button [06:58:29] Everything was working fine earlier today [06:58:45] Where does that go, in the link? [06:59:01] add in URL and git enter [06:59:29] Still no luck. Want the link? [07:00:00] To make sure it isn't a me thing at this point [07:00:08] yes [07:00:19] [1/2] https://projecteden.miraheze.org/wiki/Earth [07:00:19] [2/2] https://argalactica.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [07:00:55] Should be an image in the infobox [07:01:15] and two images in the categories gallery [07:01:32] There was an outage [07:01:46] But it only lasted a few minutes afaics [07:01:47] Hm, maybe it need some time? [07:02:00] @blankeclair @cosmicalpha able to look? [07:02:10] i'm in calss [07:02:11] class [07:02:30] I just find it especially odd that it's happening to two seperate wikis [07:02:34] so it's not just mine [07:03:02] I suppose I could also try removing the file, saving, and readdding it [07:03:22] Just wait [07:03:24] K [07:05:09] I am on train, will look when I get to uni [07:05:52] [1/2] Ok but wait, this page works, which I'm pretty sure also uses commons? [07:05:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380080163915829268/image.png?ex=6842934f&is=684141cf&hm=58003d23bbdf03060f936384bdb2c7dbb02741baca34e6c9313502bb3ccfee88& [07:06:06] [1/2] At least I don't name files like this [07:06:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380080225391480832/image.png?ex=6842935e&is=684141de&hm=1081548f00119f4dd635e1f735340765e60d4a68d3e4c4d0778929ebfd2f732a& [07:06:19] Nor would I waste time uploading a file of the moon when commons has many [07:06:40] See #announcements [07:06:55] > We're aware of an issue affecting images displaying from Wikimedia Commons following an earlier, brief upstream outage. This is under investigation. [07:07:02] Thats very odd doesnt seem to be reading it at all but some does but not all. I have no idea right now. Ill look more later. It kinda resolve itself. [07:07:19] Not all commons files seem affected just some [07:07:33] @cosmicalpha it makes me think the QIC cache is too aggressive [07:07:57] So if you can find where that's cached, it might be worth purging it [07:08:11] let me look [07:08:29] My train route's WiFi is useless though [07:08:49] We're about to go through a signal black spot [07:10:11] QIC doesn't seem to use its own cache? Something from core maybe? [07:11:23] ah yeah it uses core's repo cache [07:11:33] so WANObjectCache -> memcached [07:13:14] can we find the memcache keys with the metadata in and kill them ? [07:45:30] Hi! Any ideas why my wiki doesn't have red links/ [07:45:36] Is there an extension I need? [07:45:37] thanks [07:50:08] Have you turned any extensions on @stefan_57 ? [07:50:12] What's your wiki? [07:50:22] SnagoWiki [07:50:28] I changed the font if that means anything [07:50:39] Where there would be a redlink usually, it's just regular text [07:50:54] Yeah but when I looked there wasn't anything explicitly mentioning red links. [07:50:57] Sorry, I'm quite new to this. [07:51:30] Hmm ok [07:51:42] Check RemoveRedLinks is off [07:51:48] Otherwise I'll take a look shortly [07:52:38] Oops [07:52:41] It was indeed turned on [07:52:57] It said it's only for logged out users, (and im logged in) so.. yeah, haha [07:53:00] Thanks :p [08:01:02] ight i'm back [08:05:29] i love negative caching :D [08:05:44] can't wait for positive caching [08:05:50] that's just called caching [08:08:31] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/QuickInstantCommons/+/refs/heads/master/src/Repo.php#104 [08:09:36] huh, why's it lasting so long then [08:10:40] yeah, it's supposed to be fixed, someone made an attempt, but idk what happened [08:12:11] I'm pretty sure that extension doesn't split PC [08:15:31] well that's gonna be amazing [08:15:32] [1/2] I've got a content policy question, I've created a spoiler system that puts a blur filter on images (by default), would I still need to have images/text be collapsed by default as well or would this be enough to comply? 🤔 [08:15:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380097698409091183/image.png?ex=6842a3a4&is=68415224&hm=d0b0f0a7c2e1730c25d9cbd49d013e7c613215b1aa53469f530d5b782b396f6a& [08:16:21] It's been 130 minutes now [08:16:26] Ye it is [08:16:54] A blur is fine [08:17:04] As long as it works on all grade C browsers [08:17:16] So be careful with any newer JavaScript syntax [08:17:30] How do I know if it works on all grade C browsers? :o [08:17:46] The blur filter is mostly CSS but there is JavaScript involved. [08:18:20] Testing [08:18:53] Unless you're using something fairly new it should be okay [08:19:07] Not sure if I am, very new to all of this :0 [08:19:17] Could I share the code here? It's very small :o [08:19:54] Use a #support thread [08:20:29] What would I title the post? 🧐 [08:21:15] perhaps smth like "Does this image blur implementation abide by the content policy?" [08:21:31] [1/7] re commons fuckery: [08:21:31] [2/7] ``` [08:21:31] [3/7] > $repo->fetchImageQUery($query) [08:21:32] [4/7] = null [08:21:32] [5/7] > $repo->fetchImageQUery($query) [08:21:32] [6/7] = null [08:21:33] [7/7] ``` [08:21:36] the first line took some time to execute [08:21:40] the second didn't take any [08:21:46] so there's some kind of meta fuckery [08:21:57] and i poisoned the cache for five more minutes lmfao [08:22:33] @blankeclair yes metadata is cached [08:22:53] the first took time to execute, so it seems like there was a cache miss? [08:22:57] Because it reduces the time to load for a page with 80 images from 17 minutes to a few seconds [08:24:16] https://blog.bawolff.net/2022/07/making-instant-commons-quick.html?m=1 [08:24:19] [1/6] ``` [08:24:19] [2/6] > sudo $url = $repo->turnQueryIntoUrl($query) [08:24:19] [3/6] = "https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=File%3AQuestion.svg&iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime%7Cmediatype%7Cextmetadata&prop=imageinfo&iimetadataversion=2&iiextmetadatamultilang=1&iiurlwidth=120&format=json&action=query&redirects=true&uselang=en" [08:24:20] [4/6] > $repo->httpGet($url) [08:24:20] [5/6] = false [08:24:20] [6/6] ``` [08:24:20] fun [08:24:28] (httpGet isn't cached; httpGetCached is) [08:26:34] `[warning] [quickinstantcommons] Error fetching URL "https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=File%3AQuestion.svg&iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime%7Cmediatype%7Cextmetadata&prop=imageinfo&iimetadataversion=2&iiextmetadatamultilang=1&iiurlwidth=120&format=json&action=query&redirects=true&uselang=en": (curl error: 35) SSL connect error` [08:26:53] [1/13] ``` [08:26:54] [2/13] [blankeclair@mwtask181:~]$ curl -v 'https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?titles=File%3AQuestion.svg&iiprop=timestamp%7Cuser%7Ccomment%7Curl%7Csize%7Csha1%7Cmetadata%7Cmime%7Cmediatype%7Cextmetadata&prop=imageinfo&iimetadataversion=2&iiextmetadatamultilang=1&iiurlwidth=120&format=json&action=query&redirects=true&uselang=en' [08:26:54] [3/13] * Trying [2606:4700::6812:7be]:443... [08:26:54] [4/13] * Connected to commons.wikimedia.org (2606:4700::6812:7be) port 443 (#0) [08:26:55] [5/13] * ALPN: offers h2,http/1.1 [08:26:55] [6/13] * TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1): [08:26:55] [7/13] * CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt [08:26:56] [8/13] * CApath: /etc/ssl/certs [08:26:56] [9/13] * TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS alert, handshake failure (552): [08:26:56] [10/13] * OpenSSL/3.0.16: error:0A000410:SSL routines::sslv3 alert handshake failure [08:26:56] [11/13] * Closing connection 0 [08:26:57] [12/13] curl: (35) OpenSSL/3.0.16: error:0A000410:SSL routines::sslv3 alert handshake failure [08:26:57] [13/13] ``` [08:27:53] [1/2] oh, i forgor to proxy to bastion [08:27:53] [2/2] proxy through bastion works [08:29:09] huh [08:29:19] does the extension _not_ use proxies? [08:30:18] code path doesn't seem like it [08:39:40] Help, how can I make sure flags generated by the {{Flag icon}} template automatically have a border around them? [08:39:40]

[08:44:31] I think I figured it out [08:44:39] But the border is white? How can I make it gray? [08:56:46] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/QuickInstantCommons/+/1153954 [09:07:56] crap [09:07:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380110895845474364/image.png?ex=6842afee&is=68415e6e&hm=15344f4f0a7b4d93662822011feca567ea0c1688e58a038ef1819169303d10b4& [09:08:29] oh, back are we? [09:08:34] seems to have been a hickup [09:10:23] [1/2] ```Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp38 at Thu, 05 Jun 2025 09:08:06 GMT [09:10:23] [2/2] Varnish XID 2294013, serving A.B.C.D.``` [09:10:52] ahh... back to square one... [09:46:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380120514445447229/image.png?ex=6842b8e4&is=68416764&hm=09c33ec6a13a9b20c1d1a572a84f86d1c65925b59516068f5f61c7387c31190f& [09:46:36] Any idea how I can push the template on the right so it alligns with the template on top like the one on the left? [10:00:30] are you using floats? [10:13:21] yes [10:15:23] [1/2] are they inside another div? [10:15:23] [2/2] if it doesn't have `margin: auto;` try to add it to container [10:16:27] Okay, I have another problem now [10:16:36] How can I make linking to files with w work? [10:17:07] as in, using files from commons? is that possible? [10:18:32] you have wm commons enabled in settings? [10:18:39] yes [10:20:02] [1/3] like, you already can just add images [10:20:02] [2/3] to make links to images you should do `[[:File:...]]` - it's the `:` that does the trick [10:20:03] [3/3] in theory, it will take to a file page of that wmc image, although still rendered on your wiki - it will have all information from wmc [10:20:33] ahh got it [10:20:39] I thought its like linking articles [10:20:45] Like [[w:]] [10:20:46]

[10:20:50] as for going exactly to commons, there must be a different interwiki prefix, i think [10:21:02] not w yeah [10:21:18] w is to Wikipedia, mw is to mediawiki.org, etc [10:21:34] Thanks. [10:21:55] check Special:Interwiki page, there must be something [10:22:16] im just on phone, my memory isn't good [11:41:54] [1/2] so I did this [11:41:54] [2/2] "[[:c:File:Flag of Germany.svg|22px]]" [11:42:01] It links to the file, but it doesnt show up. [11:42:03] What to do? [11:42:25] i'm making an educated guess that there's a network change for the mw* servers [11:42:36] where all outbound traffic finally must go through the bastions [11:42:49] but E:QuickInstantCommons doesn't support $wgHTTPProxy [11:42:56] so now we're blocked on my two line patch for that :p [11:44:39]