[01:00:14] Fear & Hunger would be a good example [01:19:20] they're on wiki.gg tho? [01:22:12] I meant an example of a subject where nudity/pornography would be acceptable [01:22:29] since the videogame features some artistic nudity [01:29:23] [1/2] This should be good, right? [01:29:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380357876383613049/image.png?ex=684395f3&is=68424473&hm=e84e9602a5825d09bc9721f60e186a87d800714923f91e57edefdc4be5169536& [03:09:22] huh just booted up fear and hunger for the first time in half a year [03:09:32] g00d game [03:10:42] I've watched it before but it looks a bit too hard for my enjoyment lol' [06:42:59] [1/2] Whenever I hover over my edit box, I get a pop up. [06:43:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380436796223127552/Untitled.jpg?ex=6843df73&is=68428df3&hm=605adcbb66432f4920a603eeb0dcf9eea077e54031ed642c5782f072236713c5& [06:45:15] wtf lmao [06:45:47] I've tried reloading and trying other pages, but I still have this error. [06:46:12] I can try a different browser [06:46:58] and it does appear to be an Edge issue. Has anything changed with how the sites interact with Edge, since last night? [06:50:44] I've checked with Wikipedia, and I am getting the same error, so I guess it's a Microsoft Edge error [07:09:30] commons images still dont work [07:09:39] I mean, the link is there and works but it doesnt actually show the image [07:09:44] Am I missing something? [07:32:59] did you try purging? [08:16:56] will do [08:17:35] Nope, still doesnt work [08:21:00] It worked for the ones I checked [08:21:12] Can you link one? [08:32:11] https://snagowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/SnagoWiki:Supporters [08:32:15] The flags here [08:32:16] for example [08:32:27] it links to it, but doesnt show .. [08:35:09] Thats because you have a : in front of file [08:35:21] Oh, but I was told that's how I had to do it, hmm [08:35:31] So your linking to it instead if you put a : there. [08:35:40] Yeah, it works [08:35:43] Thanks [08:35:48] No problem! [08:35:58] I have another thing, if you could? [08:36:26] If it's quick. I can. Otherwise im going to sleep here soon. [08:36:53] https://snagowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Flag [08:37:07] I'd like the flags generated by {{flag|}} for example to have a gray border around it (like wp) [08:37:11] I couldn't figure it out myself [08:38:31] I dont know it off the top of my head. I guess itd need CSS (if im understanding correctly) but im mobile and debugging CSS isnt easy on mobile especially when it's almost 3AM... someone else may be able to assist you though. [08:39:38] No problem, thanks for your help and have a good night [08:51:25] well, you were asking for linking? [08:51:38] that's how i understood it ... [08:51:46] Sorry, english is my third language haha [08:51:51] Sometimes I can use words confusingly [08:51:53] My bad [08:52:13] it's ok, been there [12:08:36] 502 Cloudflare? Others too? [12:09:49] fine for me, seems like the usual hiccups [12:11:09] It was gone after several seconds [13:24:07] yes [15:39:43] Why can I find multiple wikis above rank 500 closing? [15:39:58] Does their community just stagnate over time? [15:40:36] Or maybe it is driven by their owner and once they leave the whole wiki gets deserted [15:40:53] Or maybe it is driven by their owner and once they leave the whole wiki gets deserted? [15:41:21] mostly the latter I believe [15:54:52] My biggest fear fr fr [15:56:30] Also how does one rank up in the wiki [15:56:37] Mines is apparently #1486 [16:02:00] Someone know the module TNT transplanting from Wikipedia [16:02:02] hey [16:02:22] Could it work? [16:02:51] it's helpful to multi-language wiki [16:03:27] why it show gateway timeout when i import files [16:12:07] [1/3] Special:Import is unstable, it times out when files is too big or whatever [16:12:08] [2/3] using [[Special:RequestImport]] is recommended, you just will have to wait [16:12:08] [3/3] also Wikipedia modules are evil, few people can/are willing to deal w/ them [16:12:08] [16:14:23] can i change the way the wiki title on the top left is displayed? [16:14:36] change it for an icon? [16:15:16] depends on skin? [16:16:13] so its only based on cs? [16:16:25] i though it has some special page that specifies this [16:28:04] [1/2] i mean that some skins have settings, some only allow logo, some prioritize wordmark [16:28:04] [2/2] check Styling tab [16:30:12] Never heard of the styling tab and nothing comes up un the web [16:30:21] I'm using the timeless skin [16:32:13] [1/5] in Administration sidebar [16:32:14] [2/5] there's [16:32:14] [3/5] Manage this wiki's additional settings [16:32:14] [4/5] in there you get various settings grouped in tab [16:32:15] [5/5] settings available for wiki's look are in Styling tab [16:34:04] after last update, there's separate wordmark setting only for Timeless skin [16:34:43] you can put in there an image, it will appear instead of wiki title in top left corner/banner [16:37:30] [[ourfoodchain]()](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis) [16:37:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis [16:38:07] I don't know how often steward requests are checked [16:39:42] There are six of them and I guess they check once a week to twice [16:54:10] thank you :) [17:40:17] How would you slowly grief a fandom so you have a lower chance of getting blocked? [17:42:49] Its easy enough to put a link on an inactive fandom's main page [17:43:37] I guess you could use multiple alts to make it less obvious and put links on every non protected page [17:47:24] Forking a fandom is the easy way out if they ban miraheze links [17:47:34] Someone actually competent would find a way to mass copy pages [17:48:03] Forking a fandom is accepting the fact that all the admins get demoted too [17:56:25] best way to compete with fandom is to not interact [17:56:36] anything you do boosts their engagement [17:56:41] [1/2] Is there anyone here who registered for SnagoWiki? Cause I don't recognize some of the usernames. [17:56:42] [2/2] If you have: Do know that it will become public and free to edit on the 18th. [17:57:28] anyone who looks at your wiki whilst logged into any other miraheze wiki (accounts are global) will get marked as an user of your wiki [17:57:38] Ooh .. [17:57:45] So that's why I've been seeing users I don't recognize [17:58:06] indeed [18:18:43] [1/13] Hi, I want to do a simple arithmetic Lua function on my wiki for the purpose of getting a 'years since' value (so the current year subtracting the year it happened and then getting that to print) within an 'On This Day' thing, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how to implement this. I know I need to make a module to invoke, but I think I'm doing the invoking wrong? [18:18:43] [2/13] eg. I have the value 1980 subtracted from 2025, which gets me 45. [18:18:43] [3/13] my working Lua function is this [18:18:44] [4/13] ```local p = {} [18:18:44] [5/13] function p.calc( frame ) [18:18:44] [6/13] a = (os.date("%Y")) [18:18:44] [7/13] b = frame:getParent().args[1] [18:18:45] [8/13] return (a - b) [18:18:45] [9/13] end [18:18:45] [10/13] return p``` which is invoked by [18:18:46] [11/13] ```{{#invoke:Since|calc|1980}}``` which I want to the invoke to return `45` within "`45` years since xyz" [18:18:46] [12/13] but this gives me `Lua error in Module:[Modulename] at line 6: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'b' (a table value).` [18:18:47] [13/13] Could someone tell me where I'm going wrong with the b variable? [18:29:14] `b = frame.args[1]` [18:30:11] not quite sure why you would want the parent, if one exists at all :p [18:31:55] [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#frame.args]] [18:31:56] [18:35:35] ig im not sure how to get the invoke bit to pull the number I want for b [18:36:15] Or rather vice versa, I want the lua function to grab the number for b, but I don't know how that'll work [18:41:50] [1/3] i mean, you had it almost right but just had one extra bit that needed to be removed [18:41:50] [2/3] if you're asking how you would feed it to the module, then I'd probably grab it in the same template where you have the year of the event (or whatnot) [18:41:50] [3/3] then the module call would look something like `{{#invoke:Since|calc|{{{year}}}}}` [19:19:43] do gifs just not autoplay in general? is there a file size limit that causes it not to? [19:23:24] they should and you should be notified if it crosses the limit where it doesn't [19:23:33] [[mw:Manual:$wgMaxAnimatedGifArea]] [19:23:34] [19:23:50] (note that it may be different on miraheze but i wouldnt know :p) [19:24:18] thanks [19:34:39] @lightning789 you can change the above mentioned setting in managewiki additional settings btw [19:52:29] We do not condone or endorse this kind of behavior. While creative, this will ultimately cause more problems than it solves, per advice from others. [19:57:34] Also, if you're doing this on an active wiki, it's a great way to poison the community against the MH project you're attempting to move them to. [20:39:24] A wiki is for ideas and thoughts not for bullying. [20:55:00] [1/3] Attacking Fandom or sabotaging its content doesn’t convince anyone to move, it just alienates the very people you’re trying to reach [20:55:01] [2/3] Build something so good they want to come [20:55:01] [3/3] Long-term trust always beats short-term tricks [20:55:34] Won’t solve anything, boosts FANDOM, pisses the community, puts off readers [21:06:53] be gay do crime, but not this crime [21:07:37] Create a plugin that people can download that eliminates the FANDOM wiki from search results [21:08:14] Will help lower SEO contribution amongst users already on the miraheze wiki [21:09:38] doesn't indie wiki buddy already do that? [21:09:48] Maybe it does [21:10:04] I remember the Minecraft wiki doing that [21:12:06] https://getindie.wiki [21:21:52] it has like, a lot more than just minecraft [21:43:18] i'm so grateful for that thing for listing Equestripedia 🥺 it's like the only way people find us. [22:22:38] The bad news [22:22:57] If minecraft fandom gets even 10% of the page views miraheze gets its not a good thing [22:23:40] If high quality fandom wikis are allowed to stay its viewers will probably never learn about miraheze [22:23:53] The least I would do be to vandalize each page with miraheze links [22:25:04] fandom would revert it anyway :p [22:25:34] Could always try an edit war and give a good reason why official wiki miraheze is better More edits etc so the editors seeing it will think twice before they get rid of it [22:26:00] ehhhh i feel like it's more likely that they'll be pissed off more than anything [22:26:02] Let me say in no uncertain terms, malicious editing against a community that does not want to move to miraheze to try to convince it to move is a code of conduct violation. [22:26:11] Well on fandom [22:26:30] And could result in our termination of your access to the service here [22:26:41] I would strongly encourage you to drop this line of thinking [22:26:56] A clearly superior wiki with multiple times as many editors is clearly a community wanting to move [22:27:33] Convince them to move earnestly, the tactics you are suggesting are not welcome here [22:28:24] [1/2] ohey, our wiki is third on the list :3 [22:28:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1380674716196405299/Screenshot_20250607-082747.png?ex=6844bd08&is=68436b88&hm=d0e50381884e85f6e99a0b45d732b5860ceba69b1e1b1e120d5aa6aad919454e& [22:40:14] Considering most fandom users are children [22:41:13] They don't really count as part of the community yet if the active editors move and after many months it is stuck behind fandom its not a good thing [22:41:50] to wikipedia \o/ [22:42:34] best thing you can do is to be the official wiki of whatever you are doing [22:43:23] Well if they check search results for months they should click other results out of curiosity [22:43:49] that fandom wiki is actually the second fandom wiki [22:43:55] LMAO [22:44:05] the first wikia wiki (yes, it was that long ago) got shut down because of transphobic edits [22:44:21] aw, no epic fandom vs fandom battles [22:44:22] and probably because it hadn't been updated in like a decade, give or take [22:45:08] last comic page on that old wikia wiki was 31 March 2015 [22:45:20] so jesus fuck, really over a decade ago [22:45:43] anyway, the new one barely has any content lol [22:45:53] and was started _after_ our fork [22:46:00] still salty about that, but oh well [22:54:57] How is this possible? [22:55:07] The new wiki is 2016 [22:55:16] And the fandom has 0 recent edits [22:55:33] seo goddesses work in mysterious ways [22:55:38] Is the effect of braindead children so strong? [22:57:34] This is exactly why the only way is to put links on the wiki to guide the children off of it after most of the active editors leave [22:58:22] Its not like its going to get editored off given that there were 0 edits in 30 days [22:59:15] Ig you will have to make the url have a space in it and hope the readers are curious to delete the space [23:01:00] digging your own grave... [23:01:06] wait what? [23:01:22] which wiki specifically [23:02:02] http s://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Rain_(comic)?oldid=685 [23:02:21] verify your miraheze account to post links btw [23:02:23] #verify [23:03:21] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/?oldid=5 [23:05:47] likely because the fandom domain has too strong seo already tbh [23:05:56] i envision few children reading the rainverse tbh [23:06:11] not to say that it's impossible, but it's not really geared towards them [23:07:59] @blankeclair At least when I search rain comic wiki [23:08:11] the miraheze comes right after wikipedia which is boring to younger viewers [23:08:27] oh? [23:08:35] the main page kinda sucks ngl [23:08:48] it was inherited when we forked, but idk how to design one better ^^; [23:09:12] Maybe if you created rain webcomic page [23:09:25] It would overtake the dead fandom page that has less than 10 pages [23:09:38] so like... Rain (comic)? [23:09:43] Rain(webcomic) [23:10:02] eh, that feels like grasping on straws [23:10:39] how young are we talking about btw [23:10:58] Well given that people under the age of 13 Frequently create google accounts and discord [23:11:08] ig somewhere around there [23:11:16] don't call me out like that /lh [23:12:02] but i feel like there's little overlap between "those who like and enjoy the rainverse" and "wanting shiny" [23:24:27] pdia [23:29:24] your average 12 year old would probably be too poisoned by queerphobia to enjoy it [23:29:40] so a queer 12 year old would be more likely [23:30:07] and we have a bad habit of being traumatised, and in childhood, that'd make us grow up faster [23:30:22] so who's to say that they'd be turned off by something not shiny~ [23:30:58] [1/2] "bad habit of being traumatised" like we walked into it 😭 [23:30:58] [2/2] (im being silly) [23:31:10] frfr [23:34:26] https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/shattered