[00:46:31] [1/3] Why is my main page logo bigger? [00:46:32] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381434251979001916/Screenshot_2025-06-08_174548.png?ex=68478067&is=68462ee7&hm=91f124fe1d1e67e356c4c5660befa5dcc29d4a543e7ac285b31ac9efdc65e5ca& [00:46:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381434252301697236/Screenshot_2025-06-08_174554.png?ex=68478067&is=68462ee7&hm=0732a498701b9853737f82b22242ca25ed28a09f5e222299ab26290d4623f200& [00:51:43] caching, for me it is the same size everywhere [00:52:10] purging may or may not help as it also depends on the thumbnail cache which you cannot affect [00:52:27] Was wondering if that was it, been messing with it so much the last few hours trying to get the size right finally [00:52:34] and it's been hell with the cache lol [00:52:50] It all looks like the first size, right? [00:52:59] Not the 2nd, smaller size? [00:53:14] unfortunately it looks like the second [00:53:21] might want to revert [00:53:23] https://tenor.com/view/coraline-dad-gif-typing-gif-18806780 [01:52:09] i came back for the first time in a while [01:52:14] why is miraheze w*ke? [01:52:51] i cannot support this... [01:52:55] I think I finally got it working 😭 can someone please check and tell me if the logo is the right size https://projecteden.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:54:01] id say that it is fairly small [01:54:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381451443013156874/IMG_0484.png?ex=6847906a&is=68463eea&hm=7a9b881d65b8af162148170bfb0921687fea49413a28ecea19f81234b0e70bc4& [01:55:11] it could be bigger but i mean if it works for you then it works for you lol [01:55:40] guessing main page has the smaller one cached rn, other pages have it bigger [01:56:41] Well I found exactly which file version was the size I wanted and changed it to that. Then I stopped touching it to see if it'd change it just now did. So yeah, idk anymore. [01:56:55] [1/2] I refreshed and got this [01:56:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381451966097657906/image.png?ex=684790e6&is=68463f66&hm=66b5d29595cd7cd637bf3e058d10be8523958d87017195678a29f2b34c85c4b9& [01:57:34] Ima just leave it as is and see if it just needs a few more hours [01:57:43] ok yeah, new size is pretty good! [01:58:31] its just caching iirc, i think control+shift+r does the trick [02:01:18] What's "grafana"? I was going to a page and briefly saw something like "If you're seeing this..." before refreshing the page again and continued on as normal [02:01:52] No screenshot, sorry [02:04:01] tab's haunted [02:04:36] grafana is monitoring [02:04:46] there's a weird intermittent bug where going to wikis have a chance of pointing you to grafana [02:04:59] We have a very inconvenient intermittent unreproducable extremely unannoying bug where requests get routed the wrong host sometimes and it becomes grafana, which is another backend. [02:05:17] Potentially foolish question, but is it 100% necessary to have ffmpeg installed on your server if you want TimedMediaHandler to display webms correctly? I'm considering migrating my wiki from a shared hosting service to miraheze because the service explicitly prohibits ffmpeg from being installed. [02:05:20] Ah, I see [02:05:26] Thanks for the answer [02:06:28] We have ffmpeg installed. As for if it requires ffmpeg Im pretty sure it does to at least function properly... [02:06:47] Okay that's what i thought [02:07:17] [1/2] Got this whole mess trying to upload one without ffmpeg [02:07:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381454575843934268/image.png?ex=68479355&is=684641d5&hm=a9ff145539e80414693ace298c21cc86d550e1451f6a31318bba1a9f2f000795& [02:08:24] Seems about right yeah. ffmpeg is a very powerful program for transcoding. It is also very intensive which is probably why the other service prohibited it... [02:09:30] huh, ffmpeg is actually installed there [02:09:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381455179399827558/1749434978549.png?ex=684793e4&is=68464264&hm=8a7c6cdb99be5cb5247db41901bcbc084b333ddff37cd056b2ec7a7f968c68e2& [02:10:21] im the conservatives 🗣️🔥‼️ [02:10:32] free hormones, in this economy? [02:10:47] idk that's what the conservatives say [02:10:54] wdym [02:11:11] one of the few times i wish the conservatives were correct 💔 [02:11:11] ffmpeg is installed on that server, but it's failing to generate a thumbnail for some reason [02:11:25] huh [02:11:52] im still waiting for my woke left free underage hormone mandates to kick in [02:12:08] out of curiosity, what's the file? [02:12:09] I can't find the installation path of it anywhere in my ftp client [02:12:11] im starting to get very impatient [02:12:18] it's in /usr/bin/ffmpeg [02:12:29] i'm assuming you only have access to your home direcotry? [02:12:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381455894574792724/Saw_Sweep.webm?ex=6847948f&is=6846430f&hm=38331280eaeb6e7c1b26b82c3208e5d997a4c698b59ed78eb2fa5419e359fa8f& [02:13:25] [1/2] this is all I canaccess [02:13:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381456118760472616/image.png?ex=684794c4&is=68464344&hm=e968a7dc32aae2e44af33de0ae56f3d2b38dbc746194f9ee4f10a16dd3f72291& [02:14:18] i wonder if $wgMaxShellMemory could be the problem [02:14:38] ah hmm, probably not [02:15:14] if needed, you can probably try to copy over your own copy of ffmpeg and point mediawiki to it [02:15:16] did Composer install it or something. I barely understand anything I've been doing the last couple days lol [02:15:48] it's globally installed on the shared host [02:18:08] rumages for Proud to be a WOKEpedian pin [02:39:55] wokeheze 💔 [02:40:46] wokeheze when mirasleep walks in [02:41:32] im too deltarune brained rn [02:41:46] i legit was reading that with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdACwUDYmFY playing in my head 😭🙏 [02:50:20] hold up gonna listen to this in a bit but thats funny ag [02:50:33] Watching the Tony rn [06:20:07] [1/3] hey chat, ive asked this here before and couldnt get understandable help and someone on the help desk directed me back here, so [06:20:08] [2/3] i'm trying to add a table into a infobox like this one on wikipedia (observe attachment) but without the 'm' and 'ft' entries and just length. i looked at wikipedia and its in a different programming language or whatever (see my previous messages) [06:20:08] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381518205285302393/image.png?ex=6847ce97&is=68467d17&hm=714f7421813b07d6995a16c3505877d28c57f723f596197e4065be0542643be5& [06:22:13] what type of infobox you already have (normal table, or portable)? [06:22:43] No clue, how do I check that [06:26:44] [1/2] this is what i have on the template page though, im trying to add a table thing at the bottom like the ones on Wikipedia [06:26:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381519870751015004/image.png?ex=6847d024&is=68467ea4&hm=0fb2fcc93068bccd4d28f91bb03fd6efa967e8222ab1489cb0c1c307f9940627& [06:27:39] Ok, werid [06:27:53] it had 2 image fields on it yesterday [06:28:06] but they're gone and there wasn't any edits [06:48:05] this is portable infobox, simplified coding method [06:48:41] ok [06:48:54] template page itself is usually not reflective of how infobox will actually look [06:49:42] [1/2] the thing about portable infobox is ths [06:49:43] [2/2] at you should put the little table bit inside tags, before /infobox [06:50:05] if you edit template you'll see the code is HTML like, w/ <> tags [06:52:52] aight im already confused [07:11:45] good luck [08:33:42] better than asleep ei [08:34:02] ts so peak [08:34:08] i got banned from 2 servers [08:34:24] not a proud thing I think [09:37:18] [1/2] Eyyyyyyyyyy, grafana [09:37:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381567826573398107/image.png?ex=6847fcce&is=6846ab4e&hm=03122518a1fdaaacdceff2acd1a7abe2c0619a30cbcf83aec67ce9e5029fe6e3& [09:37:50] Look like this? [10:22:31] Again? [10:22:33] Ffs [10:22:42] That was supposed to have been fixed by @cosmicalpha [15:26:59] How do you enter a single line break with VisualEditor? Is "Shift + Enter" disabled? [15:27:42] think you need to do a double space? ie enter and enter again [15:42:54] What is esential for infoboxes to show up properly? [15:43:01] Mine are just floating text on the left side [15:43:08] Send a screenshot [15:43:29] The page? [15:43:35] The infobox [15:43:37] And its source [15:43:43] or alternatively a link, if your wiki is public [15:43:47] That too [15:43:55] (I’m in mobile rn though tbf) [15:44:35] Well I just copied it from wikipedia [15:44:38] nothing else added [15:44:41] I thought it would work lol [15:44:52] Yeah that’ll do it [15:44:52] Template:Infobox organization [15:45:03] Wikipedia uses Lua among other stuff for a lot of templates [15:45:32] On top of extensions and some templates rely on other templates [15:46:03] What can I do [15:47:07] I’m looking at it rn [15:48:08] My recommendation is just to recreate it from scratch. It’s fairly basic from what I’m looking at. [15:48:26] Hell, I could do it for you when I get home if you wan. [15:48:39] In like 40 minutesish [15:49:11] I appreciate the offer but I'm meant to be runnin' this thing myself so I need to learn how to make stuff [15:49:39] Am I missing some modules or some general code in common.css or something that would make them not show up properly? [15:49:43] Do you have visual infobox builder? [15:49:59] Or are you doing infoboxes in source entirely? [15:50:45] I’m not fully sure. I just know that I’ve been warned against using Wikipedia infoboxes for the reasons I mentioned above. [15:50:48] I am source-only [15:50:59] Hmm.. [15:51:19] Fandom stuff is normally compatible though. [15:51:27] Ah, it seems to work better now [15:51:42] I added wikipedia's code to the common.css and common.js [15:51:52] Though there's some weird formatting [16:56:46] Change didn't work. It made it a tiny bit less common but still happens again... [17:13:35] re \s: perhaps we can explicitly say smth like "\s is shorthand for `[ \n...]`" [19:10:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381712123717091338/namoon-the-moon.gif?ex=68488331&is=684731b1&hm=24a9e7900eaf55ad53b5a954ad7aee9a63c157dc687721643256b02bc5f0c2a3& [19:20:02] [1/2] when the h [19:20:03] [2/2] more like when the #offtopic [19:27:50] Thanks! Done. [19:33:54] hey so im waiting for my wiki to get approved, and i understand it will take a while cuz theres a lot of requests, but i want to already start writing content for it before i lose all of my ideas - so is there any way for me to use the editor somewhere to write a page, then save it to my computer or something, and then import it to my wiki when its created? [19:34:38] public test wiki, maybe? as long as it's in your userspace [19:34:48] and txt file [19:35:14] they said "any way for me to use the editor", so i'm assuming that they're not completely writing the wikitext themselves [19:35:23] imo it's not worth it to save, and export, and import a page [19:35:33] i think there's like two wikitext editors and one VE lol [19:35:39] learn source editor [19:35:45] it will help you a lot [19:35:53] wikk text isn't hard [19:36:07] and you just copy/paste the entire thing [19:38:34] idk all the markdown and elements of the wikis though so i would prefer to use a visual editor [19:39:20] [1/3] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [19:39:21] [2/3] [[mw:Help:Links]] [19:39:21] [3/3] for starters [19:39:22]

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[2/2] [19:39:23] why does miraheze always have the nerve to just go "BAD GATEWAY ERROR" whenever i try to do smth [19:39:43] and then 2 seconds later its back up [19:39:53] also syntax highlight - click the blue marker button [19:39:59] <_arawynn> it hates you specifically? /j [19:40:23] Because that's our servers for you [19:40:43] idk man cp38 is just driving me insane [19:40:58] it's always cp38 that's causing problems [19:41:16] i love cp [19:41:21] what [19:41:27] especially when it decides to direct you to grafana for no reason [19:41:27] claire [19:41:28] We're a tiny bit sad [19:41:29] ? [19:41:38] blank u cant be saying that [19:41:42] ?? [19:41:43] oh [19:41:45] oh [19:41:46] fuck [19:42:00] thanks, also is there any way i can get a preview of the page after i write it without having a wiki yet? [19:42:01] I don't particularly know why the mediawiki servers are being grumpy [19:42:06] BlankEclair: just no [19:42:17] (which part specifically) [19:42:35] the part where you like the cache proxy [19:42:36] what's wrong with cp38 why is it always grumpy [19:42:50] Lingo2: it's the mediawiki servers that are sad [19:42:52] that was sarcastic :p [19:42:56] [1/2] as blankeclair said earlier, we have publictestwiki.com, but you better do that in your user page [19:42:56] [2/2] also in source editor there's preview button [19:42:56] oh [19:43:01] cp38 is just the caching proxy that you go through [19:43:23] BlankEclair: can you see why mw is sad [19:43:29] so cp38 essentially makes the entire website work properly [19:43:46] it makes it not fall down to its knees, yes [19:44:00] Lingo2: we have 2 caching servers serving wikis [19:44:04] cp37 & cp38 [19:44:08] Soon to be 3 [19:44:21] cp37-39 [19:44:21] well cp38 is misbehaving [19:44:29] You'll always hit the same one though [19:44:38] r.i.p cp36 [19:44:43] Caching at the varnish level is directed based on url [19:44:58] Lingo2: I think it's mediawiki that's misbehaving [19:45:22] There's a couple of mediawiki servers with high worker usage [19:45:30] so what abt cp1,cp2,cp3,cp4,cp5,cp6,cp7,cp8,cp9,cp10,cp11,cp12,cp13,cp14,cp15,cp16,cp17,cp18,cp19,cp20,cp21,cp22,cp23,cp24,cp25,cp26,cp27,cp28,cp29,cp30,cp31,cp32,cp33,cp34,cp35 and cp36 [19:45:42] we only have cp{36..38}} [19:45:45] cp36 is the old legacy service [19:46:06] when did cp36 get removed [19:46:11] what's the naming convention for cp*? [19:46:27] the generic convention seems to be , e.g. mw181 [19:46:30] better question why is it called cp [19:46:33] cache proxy [19:46:40] makes sense [19:46:45] > [10/06/2025 05:43] BlankEclair: can you see why mw is sad [19:46:47] cp1 was Debian Jessie [19:46:52] nothing very telling rom the grafana dashboard [19:46:56] from* [19:47:11] An old EU cache proxy [19:47:12] basically the only thing peculiar is that there's 1.4k refreshLinks jobs [19:47:19] and cp2? [19:47:26] cp2 was the Atlanta Jessie server [19:47:26] oh never mind [19:47:38] the mw servers are shitting themselves; i forgot to set grafana to autorefresh [19:47:43] cp3 was the Asia stretch one [19:47:43] did it just kick me out [19:47:50] also why am i lingo89 [19:47:51] what the hell [19:47:57] cp4 replaced cp1 [19:47:58] bro got promoted [19:48:02] lmfao [19:48:19] cp10-12 was OVLON [19:48:32] i think you skipped cp5-9 [19:49:06] > [10/06/2025 05:47] the mw servers are shitting themselves; i forgot to set grafana to autorefresh [19:49:09] not anymore? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:50:24] watch miraheze get hacked in the next 2 weeks by some random kid that got mad at minecraft [19:50:34] Lingo89: cp2 got replaced with cp8 [19:50:41] ah [19:50:54] > [10/06/2025 05:50] watch miraheze get hacked in the next 2 weeks by some random kid that got mad at minecraft [19:50:57] no one tell Lingo89 about orain [19:50:58]