[00:04:28] https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-stare-staring-funny-gif-13590085 [00:42:13] I color-coded https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance/2025. The protection on the finance page is pretty-much non-existent since Cascading Protection is not enabled. [00:43:14] thank you! [00:44:23] It hurts my eyes to see `style="text-align:right;"` repeated so many times, but I guess if it works there's no need to clean it up... [01:37:32] Ugh. Thank you for doing that, but definitely going to set up some abuse filter rules for finance + subpages [01:37:52] As there's really only a handful of people who should be making changes there [01:57:06] [1/7] Hello, hola [01:57:06] [2/7] I'm making a RPG wiki with miraheze, and the characters have diferent stats I would like to show on a horizontal chart, Like [01:57:07] [3/7] Attack:======== 20 [01:57:07] [4/7] Defense:=== 3 [01:57:07] [5/7] HP:======= 15 [01:57:08] [6/7] Speed:=========== 30 [01:57:08] [7/7] Something like that, anyone have an idea how it can be do, maybe a template can be used? [02:13:47] Like, in an infobox? [02:18:41] Mmm maybe out, on the page. I think in an infobox will be reduce the space [02:30:08] [1/2] I found an example, something like this [02:30:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381822715606077440/image0.jpg?ex=6848ea30&is=684798b0&hm=a18811256437e710d4b59f9a02535052f6f72b37b829d558fdabf222a3f7cf29& [02:34:25] Oh like a bar [02:59:10] It's not too difficult, but would require some knowledge of CSS to accomplish (e.g. specify the width of a `div` to be the same as the stat). [03:15:05] Something like this https://strinova.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/sandbox?oldid=30984, though you'd need a LOT of fine-tuning to make it presentable. [03:16:59] [1/2] Thanks, Ill see the code, I know a little of CSS. [03:16:59] [2/2] Thanks a lot [04:10:20] Fixed with AF, thanks for the heads up [04:16:32] `page_title` doesn't take the namespace into consideration, so talk page messages will be blocked as well (e.g. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/1248754). [04:19:02] Ah, good call, I'll add a namespace condition to it [07:15:16] I need help with making flag icons have a gray border instead of a white border [07:15:21] What do I have to change? [08:04:34] It seems that the CreateWiki AI is down? Every single request on June 9 got `This request could not be automatically evaluated. Please wait for human review.` as the response. [08:09:53] miraheze gone broke [08:10:12] :broken_heart: [08:12:13] you need to look into sub templates, find which one render the flag, it most likely has a class to provide it, and then goes CSS [08:16:20] Do you know how to modify it [08:16:27] I think it's Template:Flag/core [08:50:50] [1/2] I can't if i can't see it [08:50:50] [2/2] but I'm also on phone rn [09:31:02] [1/3] I think Fandom's SEO is scoundrel and disgusting [09:31:02] [2/3] I saw a page name just with a dot [09:31:02] [3/3] can be easily searched [09:32:24] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:TNT [09:32:24] [2/2] @blankeclair [09:32:29] meow? [09:50:50] this issue has been appearing more and more frequently [09:53:12] hi friends, have discord embeds on wiki links broken for any of you? theyve stopped working for phwiki as of about 2 days ago [09:54:55] youtube embeds or? [09:58:19] oh no like, linking a wiki page in discord, an embed no longer shows up [09:58:39] they worked consistently until now so im not sure if something broke 😅 [10:00:35] what page information shows? [10:00:49] at the bottom should be wikiseo data [10:07:04] [1/5] heres what i have [10:07:04] [2/5] first is what its doing now, second is what it should be doing (it was working as of early yesterday!) and third is page info for the main page (linked in both screenshots) [10:07:04] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381937700965191741/Screenshot_20250610_110537_Discord.png?ex=68495547&is=684803c7&hm=4c41a8a9ddcee06f4d71125623ba7efd845d4437c5d650132474d77cbcd094f4& [10:07:05] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381937701858574417/Screenshot_20250610_110521_Discord.png?ex=68495547&is=684803c7&hm=95780047fc67ac09863044da8a161deb370c8b61da29938203434904445502df& [10:07:05] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381937702328471622/Screenshot_20250610_110624_Chrome.png?ex=68495547&is=684803c7&hm=65806ac1b11c694afc3b53d3994515cef56796c9a1729f57946717b2c641c0c4& [10:07:46] discord embeds are working in general, i just tested with google.com [10:21:49] Maybe Discord's servers are getting blocked? [10:24:57] ohhh maybe [10:27:12] me 2 but twitter [10:28:01] Joined the club [10:34:21] like wiki links on twitter? [10:35:26] yeah [10:35:31] utg.miraheze.org [10:35:37] no embed or anything [10:36:30] ooh so its a mira issue it seems [10:36:36] glad to know its not just me [10:44:09] Probably Cloudflare, tis gotten a bit trigger happy lately [11:16:34] looks like cloudflare https://discord.com/developers/embeds?url=https%253A%252F%252Fphighting.wiki [11:16:44] 403 [11:17:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1381955411502170193/IMG_1598.png?ex=684965c5&is=68481445&hm=3729cb2201af1a27c3d24f734038ff7e33daabcbfab84cd16f1dfd603c5791f8& [11:19:16] same with all mira domains [11:28:23] using discord’s user agent doesn’t block [11:41:00] dang cloudflare [11:41:14] thanks for that, i wouldve never known to check such a thing!! [11:58:08] yep, blocked by cloudflare due to AS396982 being blocked for ai scraping [11:58:12] i.e. google cloud platform lmfao [12:00:47] @rhinosf1 ^ [12:09:37] i'd unblock discord myself if they had a consistent ip address, but i couldn't find one :p [14:10:32] Fun [14:10:39] I'll have a look [14:10:58] After work [14:11:05] I am supposed to be in a meeting [16:06:50] Obviously not a critical issue or anything, but seems embeds (when posting links on discord), as well as webhook pictures seems to not be working ATM (ie. it uses the stock discord profile picture instead of the `Discord Notification Avatar URL ($wgDiscordAvatarUrl)` setting it is supposed to use) [17:22:30] We're aware [17:53:23] [1/2] Anyone got something like that too? 😮 [17:53:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382055058224447659/image.png?ex=6849c293&is=68487113&hm=28e8ac4f6c981605aae5d7f60d776532ea04666336e83a4a413737653d863bb2& [17:54:18] [1/2] OK, now I've got something like that. [17:54:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382055288865161316/image.png?ex=6849c2ca&is=6848714a&hm=72ca34f36938728a597e17de57900578fa4d3055dae42d3c60838176aa447692& [17:54:30] And again. [17:56:18] Yes, getting bad gateway every other edit or page load. [17:59:46] lmao my bot got a grafana error [17:59:47] Same, it’s also just being slow to load in general [18:00:32] give it a few, will probably get better soon [18:03:20] Seems to have magically fixed itself all of a sudden. Fingers crossed. [18:09:43] common occurrence, it is advised to ring the bells when it keeps happening for 5 min straight [21:45:54] *yawn* another day, another miraheze acting like an idiot [21:46:19] not even [21:47:14] logged me out a bunch of times [21:47:28] visual editor on Meta barely works at all [21:47:49] just don't use the visual editor, ez [21:48:01] i never use the visual editor [21:48:19] but sometimes miraheze just redirects me to the visual editor and it pmo [21:49:05] and my wiki just doesn't have visual editor because miraheze won't let it function like at all [21:49:27] :( [21:49:32] oh ffs [21:49:33] why not [21:49:41] also damn it logged me out too [21:49:54] :( [21:50:14] yay it disconnected me again [21:50:54] anything to not go to a multi-billion dollar company that actively steals my data [21:51:04] *cough cough* discord [21:51:52] you never know what the miraheze cabal does with your data tho....... [21:52:24] well at-least it's better than discord [21:52:59] btw you can disable visual editor in preferences -> editing -> enable the visual editor [21:53:12] idk discord doesnt really sell data that much afaik [21:53:24] sir [21:53:34] DMS are unencrypted [21:53:42] doesn't mean they sell it [21:53:54] well they do sell it [21:53:56] just google it [21:55:13] [1/2] >doesn't use discord because it sells data [21:55:13] [2/2] >tells others to use google [21:55:36] i mean search it [21:56:13] what if I LLM it instead [21:56:24] girl idc how you search it [21:56:38] i use dickdickgo who's gonna stop me [21:56:39] duckduckgo* [21:57:01] would it be funny if your ISP sold your data as well [21:57:19] they don't track searches [21:57:27] atleast my ISP doesnt [21:57:30] idk abt yours [21:57:33] wasn't saying they were [21:57:41] i check privacy policies [21:58:03] yes i'm that kinda guy to do that [21:59:57] idk man the discord privacy policy explicitly states that they dont sell personal information [22:00:24] check where it says what counts as PII [22:00:30] to discord [22:02:24] we slurp it over tea [22:03:03] https always, dnssec, custom dns server mostly accounts for this with little trust required [22:03:25] or, vpn, then you trust whichever that is instead though that needs to be done very carefully... [22:03:55] everyone should use tor!!! is the next step probably [22:04:05] I do encourage it on principle [22:04:18] but never mix it with banking or real id logins [22:04:37] hmm yes let me identify myself... [22:10:36] BRO [22:10:39] oh hell nah [22:11:23] fym the nickname lingo2 is already in use [22:11:35] there [22:11:39] close enough [22:11:42] your old session probably [22:12:04] idk i dont really see discord being that awful with my data [22:12:08] irc be funny like that [22:12:26] and there it goes [22:12:33] yay [22:12:38] right now discord is not that horrible relative to the industry but I would expect that to change in the near future [22:12:47] that a 100% tho [22:13:12] they have to start selling data or crank up the monetization like crazy [22:13:15] I am confident enough that I've been looking at de discording for a while, though it would have serious drawbacks [22:13:27] well the latter is well on its way and they do have an actiblizz ceo now so [22:13:35] yup [22:13:47] im out [22:13:51] byee yall [22:13:54] bye [22:14:02] the data is a treasure trove and in this market it would be foolish tbh to do nothing with it, it's not like they are a privacy company [22:14:22] i would dediscord but god damn is it too convenient and popular [22:14:38] dropping it would sever a few communities I'd rather keep an eye on [22:15:07] for just information and news i suppose you could make a dummy account [22:15:07] but I'm happy to support, endorse, push alternatives when it arises [22:15:24] it would get the facebook treatment if it came to that yeah [22:16:04] cant even get rid of my facebook account as all my boomer relatives and friends use it [22:16:23] you can go a long way to sever its connection to anything else [22:16:41] by paying lmao [22:16:59] I use it to blackpill select groups and people into learning why not to use facebook often [22:17:34] well facebook is pretty much stuffed into its own browser on its own machine accessed in a regimented way with heavy content blocking enabled for spite [22:18:14] heavy "lock it in the deepest basement of area 51" vibes [22:18:41] pretty much tbh [22:22:19] what would your alternative to discord be when it starts going bad? [22:22:37] Guilded :steamhappy: [22:22:43] i will strangle you [22:22:46] that's a hard question because the front runners I feel have some very deep problems and some 1:1 alternatives are not developed [22:22:58] guilded shot itself before it became a threat which kind of relieved me, I never trusted it in the first place [22:23:14] selling to roblox, great idea [22:23:26] matrix is the most mature alternative and frankly I just don't really like it much [22:23:27] can't blame them for cashing out though [22:24:28] revolt is still essentially a pet project that has not faced real adversity and therefore if it survives or will develop or what have you remains in question, but it's the most mature alt-discord [22:25:28] there's good software you can host like zulip or what have you but I don't think the future at scale is federated however much I'd like that idea [22:26:09] I fundamentally trust mastadon more than I'd trust bluesky on principle but the bluesky is always going to outpace the mastadon [22:26:17] wasn't revolt the one that andrew tate used for his... whatever you wanna call it [22:26:32] revolt is the one andrew tate stole the source for his crappy clone yes [22:27:05] stole because he could not follow the meager minimums asked of its license [22:27:49] surely if the best and brightest use it, it must be good [22:28:18] -# the network effect in a nutshell [22:28:38] it's adequate but lacking in ways that will hamper its adoption until it gets its rewrite, and the rewrite is dragging [22:29:12] it's slimmer which I like tbh [22:37:55] unfortunate that fediscord isn't the way [23:50:55] [1/2] curious, anyone know why very rarely (and randomly) a page will load without formatting like this? [23:50:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382145033498529802/image.png?ex=684a165e&is=6848c4de&hm=332f697a4e0df89ea3a70e7e48a7a0d42260711e1a91fa42715e34f20f774183& [23:51:20] eats your CSS cutely [23:52:14] not quite sure why it happens, but I've noticed it happens more often during 503 hiccups. might be related [23:52:30] I've had it happen to other websites before [23:53:06] back when I had to use chromebooks for some classes I noticed it'd happen a lot on them. To be fair, those are pieces of crap. [23:53:49] free performance gains? simply dont load any CSS [23:54:12] this is what the pinnacle of web designs looks like people [23:54:55] we're going back to wbo 1.0 with this one lifehack