[00:32:59] me 2 on my wiki! various times [03:12:36] i want to ask [03:12:41] how to add custom buttons to the wiki footer? [03:12:56] i see some wikis like fisch wiki have an extra button in the footer [03:16:30] what do you mean [03:16:35] the irwa button? [03:16:36] https://fischipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Timeless.js [03:17:04] at the bottom it just clones the miraheze button and replaces it with IRWA stuff [03:17:15] didnt even let them clarify [03:17:41] ...we dont really have any other extra buttons besides that [03:17:49] ah [03:17:51] lol [03:17:53] thanks [03:18:07] yeah that was i'm implying [03:18:28] Line 49 of the Timeless JS [03:18:37] ermmm what about Donate to Miraheze... [03:19:14] believe it or not, built-in [03:19:47] Don't clock me like this Asko [03:20:01] :thanks: [03:49:42] you do realise that we can add button on request, right? [03:50:11] [1/2] 1. i havent had anything to do with it [03:50:12] [2/2] 2. that's not fun! [03:51:11] o [03:54:38] omw to make 8 tickets for the 8 irwa wikis to get a silly little button added :3 /j [03:54:50] it can be just one :p [03:55:15] aight i'll get the bureaucratic process in motion [04:28:45] im motioning [05:11:07] we're gaming [05:34:56] we're gaying :3 [06:03:26] were mirahezing [06:08:33] So is semantic mediawiki the thing that wikidata uses? [06:21:15] @blankeclair is Semantic mediawiki the thing that wikidata uses? [06:21:24] no idea lol [06:21:26] doubt it tho [06:21:39] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Version [06:21:42] looks like a no [06:24:34] wtf 1.45?? [06:25:19] wmf runs 'em precocious [07:08:23] crazy [07:31:43] It's wikibase [07:35:52] [1/2] How come people who requested their wiki today are already getting it accepted, and i’ve been for like 4 days now and i still don’t have any response? I know it’s checked by volunteers and i’m not rushing anyone, but for me it feels kind of unfair for the people who have been waiting in the line. [07:35:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382262040264966144/IMG_4282.png?ex=684a8357&is=684931d7&hm=f245117454507c8cfcc713bcc74332ace3255cf57f305d83a97c45f8618f51d1& [07:36:39] ...were they approved by the AI? [07:44:46] AI approves/disapproves quickly, if it's unsure or needs more details request is moved to human review queue [07:45:02] and there comes volunteer factor [07:46:19] I never had any AI check my request [07:46:30] dw, we used to have like 10 days queue times before AI solution was deployed [07:46:54] link? [07:47:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/60732#mw-section-comments [07:48:19] AI errored or ran out of credits [07:48:30] there was something on 9th [07:48:32] which gets you sent for human review [07:49:16] So can I delete the request and make a new one so that the AI checks it ? [07:49:33] unadvised [07:49:43] please dont [07:51:05] Or can the AI be run again on my existing request [07:51:34] Idk i’m kinda annyoed that any new request that gets made now gets instant decision from AI and i Can’t get any response yet [07:51:48] Looks like no request on June 9 was approved due to the outage [07:53:00] I think it’s a good idea to run the AI again on those requests that never got AI review it would loosen up your queue too. [09:12:39] I'll put it forward to run the AI again, But each request done by the AI costs money, so when the credits are out ... [09:13:41] If a request has gone for human review, you can probably expect a 7-10 day wait [09:14:14] [1/2] that makes sense for those who got rejected by the AI already [09:14:14] [2/2] but last I checked, AI doesn't cost during outages [09:15:06] i don't think it's unreasonable to try running the AI again on requests that didn't even get touched by it [09:17:51] We'll see what we can do [09:18:18] But if any WCs are around, please continue to review them [09:32:45] [1/2] silly question, but can i request file import from specific pages and not from the whole wiki? [09:32:46] [2/2] there are some unused files from the old wiki btw so i'm curious [09:37:04] [1/2] you can export selected pages into one xml file, via Special:Export on source wiki [09:37:04] [2/2] but files themselves aren't part of xml in any form (unless you mean File: namespace pages, which have descriptions etc) [09:38:09] oh i mean the files, not the pages haha, like images, audio etc [09:38:42] i knew that they wouldn't be imported if using the export pages tool [09:40:12] [1/2] you can scrap files but unsure if there's a way to pick certain ones [09:40:12] [2/2] you can delete things from archive after full scrap, and then give that for import [09:42:42] [1/2] ah i see, ig i should upload manually for now [09:42:42] [2/2] (i think scrapping might take even more time) [09:52:28] [1/2] also how can i fix this issue? [09:52:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382296421075783680/image.png?ex=684aa35c&is=684951dc&hm=81f081deeb4e85997e0c4116158f87194e5a498086ef968a82e05e9957300646& [09:53:27] refresh [09:54:00] tried it, didn't work :/ [10:23:49] Wait a few seconds and refresh [10:23:55] Nothing you've done wrong [11:15:38] [1/2] Got my wiki approved! As I'm tangling with it, it becomes apparent that I haven't edited a wiki for 20 years 😮 [11:15:38] [2/2] How do I create a new wiki page and create a word-link to it? I vaguely recall from wikipedia that it's a simple as making a link, then pressing the link and then editing that page to create it from scratch, but what is the code for making the link? [[ ]] or something like that? [11:18:06] [1/2] simplest way to create a page is to search for it and clicking the red link [11:18:07] [2/2] links are indeed made with double square brackets, try `[[Main Page]]` for example [11:20:28] oh cool, thanks! [11:20:38] what do you mean by clicking the red link? [11:21:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382318817681870952/image.png?ex=684ab838&is=684966b8&hm=e5de10eb49e236f71412c0215270096dfe68e1a4759788e41ff687812023a1e2& [11:22:50] oh word [11:22:52] that is easy [11:24:00] @theubusu AI approves in like 10 seconds if you give enough detail [11:24:43] [1/2] anyway, if you haven't already, I recommend checking out our [[How-to guides]] [11:24:44] [2/2] and if anything is confusing or unclear, there's always people around to help out [11:24:45] [11:24:46] i wish [11:25:36] my request wasn’t seen by AI because of an outage [11:32:17] [1/3] i usually link these guides for beginners [11:32:18] [2/3] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [11:32:18] [3/3] [[mw:Help:Links]] [11:32:18] [1/2] [11:32:18] [2/2] [11:32:37] Hopefully someone puts the 100 wiki requests that couldn't be reviewed through the AI agai [11:32:54] It shouldn't cost much [11:33:40] this already answered three of my questions 😮 thx! [11:33:49] i hope [11:35:28] i just want my wiki 😭 [11:48:31] [1/2] Learned how to make progressive blur 🎉 [11:48:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382325622508093490/image.png?ex=684abe8e&is=68496d0e&hm=ef6eb7daf9ec8b1101bab645d79dc00e04e2ed925cd133470b92efc26611211f& [12:04:30] [1/2] speaking of, i noticed there an older, inactive wiki that covers the same topic as mine [12:04:30] [2/2] nobody has edited it for a while, and it got marked for deletion recently, so... should i report that wiki so it would be closed? [12:08:15] <_arawynn> If they're already marked for deletion I'd say it's not necessary that wiki [12:09:47] there's opening and adoption procedures tho [12:09:58] [1/2] oh wait, it got marked for being inactive, not deletion [12:09:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382331021567201331/IMG_20250611_190939.jpg?ex=684ac396&is=68497216&hm=516c74daef21f881196b30399ab98f6ead0ebfe7ed3f7b3262b01ff85130852f& [12:10:43] [1/2] opening in case wiki got closed for inactivity [12:10:43] [2/2] adoption in case if you want to become an admin of a wiki and current bureau/admin is unreachable [12:11:23] inactive means you can just edit it and banner should disappear [12:11:49] [1/2] well, i did currently hosting another wiki that covers the same topic [12:11:49] [2/2] i didn't know there was a similar wiki before mine [12:12:29] i guess let the old one to get deleted [12:12:42] it got very different url? [12:13:03] yeah, apparently [12:13:19] well, only a word difference [12:13:52] is that wiki also forked? [12:14:36] hm... i dont think so [12:16:04] it's funny because the wiki i'm hosting is a forked one [12:30:56] so the problem is that it takes 6 months after close to be eligible for deletion [12:31:20] if what you made was already approved then yeah, we could expedite the close and maybe lock for good measure, if not adoption would probably be a more final process [12:33:43] [1/2] if the old one started as clean wiki and became inactive, chances are admin burned out [12:33:43] [2/2] forking is usually a much simpler solution [12:34:26] https://milgramproject.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page here's the wiki link, if you're wondering [12:34:35] it's preferred to adopt over the dead wiki [12:34:57] private wiki [12:35:03] on top of this all [12:35:19] rookie mistake [12:35:20] oh, well it can be flat deleted in some conditions, but close/lock might be the way [12:36:10] [1/2] oh btw i'm not the admin there, nor member [12:36:11] [2/2] i just stumbled on it when trying to search for my wiki [12:37:53] let me see what the pulse is, which already isn't great for being inactive but who knows [12:38:58] there is evidence of resurrecting it in march with the apparent intent to work on it eventually [12:39:31] this is a case where there isn't an explicit basis to tell them 'sorry you missed your shot, pls contribute to the people who've actually made it work', but that is probably the most equitable answer to avoid competing wikis down the road [12:41:51] also i don't think this wiki would see the day, iirc it was last edited in 2024 [12:42:13] eh maybe i shouldn't be bothered about it much and just ignore it [12:44:25] that would be best imo [12:44:45] policy greatly favors the incumbent wiki as the place to contribute to though it doesn't really consider what happens if someone sets private for setup and then just, buggers off [12:45:20] the operator did touch a few months ago hence only being inactive and not closed, but it's evident there is no passion there [12:47:43] yea, it speaks volumes [12:54:36] ive seen enough examples of wikis set private as a wip and then dropped [12:55:08] ngl im currently waiting for one such wiki to free the url [13:02:22] not our finest system on that tbh [13:03:04] I do think if someone comes in with intent to develop it and then they just drop the ball, hog the domain, rely on our protection against duplication in a way, then that protection should be summarily dropped if someone comes in with a clearer game plan [13:03:09] not sure how to express that as a policy though [13:07:07] man infoboxes are hard.. I eventually caved and just tried copying the documentation, but that doesn't give me an infobox, just a link saying "sample: infobox character" [13:07:12] [1/2] here's my preview: [13:07:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382345423397720106/image.png?ex=684ad0ff&is=68497f7f&hm=a8cab3871d97f2d29953858974fdb730e5954e3f734142270b9b772e5ca771b2& [13:07:14] what am I doing wrong? [13:10:01] well, documentation subpage is a description+usage example of template, not the template itself that will be used [13:10:32] infobox is a type of template [13:10:59] oh [13:11:16] I have gone through both the infobox help docs and I can't understand how to actually make one... [13:11:43] we suggest to make them w/ PortableInfobox extension (method developed by Wikia/Fandom) or import from our Dev Wiki for an already made one, if it fits the purpose [13:11:47] [1/3] chat i'm new to miraheze and making a wiki with my friends [13:11:47] [2/3] how do i like [13:11:48] [3/3] add new categories and articles and stuff [13:12:08] I have approved the extension for using P.I. but how does that lead to me having a box on a page? [13:12:21] like how do I use the exten [13:12:27] [[infoboxes]] [13:12:29] @link [13:12:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/infoboxes [13:12:39] there's a visual builder which lets you to make simple infobox [13:12:59] in that guide linked below there's visual instruction too (collapsed) [13:13:10] *above [13:15:29] [1/6] basic method to create new page is clicking on a red link to one [13:15:29] [2/6] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1382317970948358317 [13:15:30] [3/6] or type new page name in URL (after `/wiki/`) [13:15:30] [4/6] categories are added anywhere in the code like this: `[[Category:`Name here`]]` [13:15:30] [5/6] category is a page w/ Category: prefix (in category namespace) [13:15:31] [6/6] a page w/o prefix is an article (belongs to main namespace) [13:16:00] mkay thanks [13:16:26] is it this one? https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Infobox_101 [13:17:00] no, what BlankeClair posted (via bot) [13:17:08] [[Infoboxes]] [13:17:09] [13:18:34] Still don't get how I actually create the infobox.. It suggests going to a miraheze fandom wiki and just copy one, but that doesn't allow me to dictate the specs myself [13:19:02] miraheze fandom wiki?.. [13:19:05] okay, look [13:19:10] the other way i mentioned [13:19:24] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]] [13:19:25] [13:19:33] you can copy these templates [13:19:44] Ok 😮 [13:19:48] there are portable infobxoes tooo [13:20:01] you can edit them by yourself on your wiki after import [13:20:13] still, i suggest to carefully read the Infoboxes guide [13:20:45] Ok! [13:25:25] There is an api to list files used on a page, but it doesn't seem to be exposed to the end user directly [13:25:45] Okay, so to use Visuel Editor, it seems like I should "go to Special:InfoboxBuilder on your wiki", but when I type that in, it informs me said special page doesn't exist? [13:25:52] can you reverse special unused files? /j [13:27:04] [1/3] wait [13:27:05] [2/3] you need PortablInfobox extension to make an infobox, and to use that builder [13:27:05] [3/3] VisualEditor is completely different thing, is just to edit pages (as opposed to source editor where you type wiki text) [13:27:19] I have added the PI extension [13:27:54] what's your wiki? [13:28:14] [1/2] I tried to follow this part of the guide: [13:28:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382350717859266612/image.png?ex=684ad5ed&is=6849846d&hm=1080df6bbeb00bc80cab50bf2dd2a10218d147cb39012abacd2eeacf20dc1620& [13:28:20] krigslive.miraheze.org [13:29:31] This is the page I wanted an infobox for: https://krigslive.miraheze.org/wiki/Johan_Becker [13:30:19] [1/3] PI is not enabled [13:30:20] [2/3] make sure to click save changed after ticking its box [13:30:20] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382351244613390508/IMG_20250611_172950.jpg?ex=684ad66b&is=684984eb&hm=fe38115ce112c9a7f24aaf18fa8dcda69d5999d1f7779953d1404abf626e6a55& [13:31:16] that's weird, I coulda sworn I saved it [13:31:23] oh well, it's ticked and saved now [13:32:28] so the next step is going to Special:PortableInfoboxBuilder .. or? [13:32:50] what language is this wiki on? [13:33:06] Danish [13:33:48] it started working now, took a bit [13:34:00] [13:34:13] if it stuck on loading refresh it [13:34:47] extensions and some settings might take a bit of time to start working [13:34:49] Oh it isn't spelled in bloody Danish -_- [13:34:59] In Danish, it's "speciel" not "special" [13:35:12] For sure. Thanks Legroom! That was a lot [13:36:04] I just type such URL's in eng on different lang wikis, they suppose to convert address by themselves [13:36:23] but in some cases extensions get translated too [13:36:33] [1/3] Hm, it's just giving me this: [13:36:33] [2/3] "such a special page does not exist" [13:36:33] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382352810007461959/image.png?ex=684ad7e0&is=68498660&hm=183234525c94e29cbfc9ad61b434a41000be7383378018e5f840616d00d5cd21& [13:36:58] you clicked what I posted?try to Ctrl+F5 [13:37:31] when I click on yours I get a progress bar.. if I refresh that, I land on the "not found" page [13:37:41] funny how half my requests bring me to the 404 [13:37:43] :ThinkerMH: [13:37:45] I'll give it some time [13:37:48] try again [13:37:53] i love caching [13:38:23] eat the cache button when [13:38:34] im on phone so it's endless load for me [13:39:10] okay susie [14:38:58] hi, i want to ask how i can increase the width of my content box? it just leaves two blank spaces to the left and right. you can check my main page here:https://chidurianwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedi%C3%A9:Tag%C3%A9_chi%C3%A9 [14:50:54] [1/2] @theoneandonlylegroom we rollin 😎 [14:50:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382371522714402836/image.png?ex=684ae94e&is=684997ce&hm=953d20459c19e0b95f34c5705a1b5c17e1eb59fd09e715d822539c8cb0f37b9e& [14:50:58] thanks again! [14:52:00] np 👍 [14:53:15] i suppose you're using Vector 2022 skin? [14:58:48] yeah [14:59:03] oh but wait i found it, i just have to change the width in the appearance settings [15:00:23] by the way, can you see whats wrong to my multiple image template? it doesnt show the frame as well as align to the right. the example is here: https://chidurianwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Marta_(hesta)#Satelitas [15:12:43] im on phone so things aren't proper for me [15:14:59] here: https://ibb.co/x8BLDRtX [16:23:43] um [16:24:35] hm? [16:28:54] why do i not have perms to edit my wikis settings [16:38:31] [1/2] help i waited like 5 hours and i still get this error when making request [16:38:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382398606564397157/image.png?ex=684b0287&is=6849b107&hm=c522fc8b448397476474eeeb14faea47877888cd56206cbf6eabd89453493187& [16:45:09] what were you trying to do? [16:45:28] make a wiki request [16:45:48] i tried to do it on ipad but safari said couldnt send connection was lost and now i tried on pc and this happens [16:45:54] [1/2] the wiki just was created? [16:45:54] [2/2] there's a bug that sometimes perms don't apply, but just make sure you're actually logged in too [16:46:12] weren't you told to not create new request? [16:46:18] i am impatient [17:17:21] that won't cut it [17:17:35] making another request will take considerably longer [17:20:21] no because i will get the AI to review it [17:20:28] my request never got an AI review [17:20:55] because of some error [17:21:43] in that case it is subject to manual review which admittedly can take a while [17:23:59] so why not make another request and get instant AI review [17:28:12] You are not permitted to have multiple open wiki requests at the same time @theubusu [17:29:46] okay i didnt know? 😭 [17:30:14] Which wiki? [17:30:39] [1/2] again, it's just a bug, uncommon occurrence [17:30:39] [2/2] you checked you are logged in after all and still can't change settings? [17:31:58] I was able to do it somehow tho [17:31:59] THanks [17:32:08] oh ok [17:32:09] I had to just go in group and give my role perms [17:32:18] but can i use another account [17:33:28] bro asking miraheze if they can circumvent miraheze policies 💀 [17:33:44] beueehhe i just want the AI to check my request [17:34:06] You will likely find your access to our services terminated if you do so [17:34:10] Please be patient [17:35:31] you couldn't change one certain setting? [17:35:46] no.. [17:36:05] We're all volunteers, patience and politeness will get you a long way [17:36:05] okay, if it works then, sorry [17:39:39] [1/2] i know im not ven talking about that im just annoyed that all the people that make request now get instant answer from AI but i didnt like imagien if you were in a store that gves out free candy and at the enterancve there is a robot that gives it out but when u entered the store the rboyt was broken so you have to wait in a manual line and while u wainiting in [17:39:39] [2/2] that line for 999999 days you see the prople that walk into the store and get the candy instatnly from the robot and you are mad cuz u been waiting longf and got nothing this is how i beel fel el rignt now and deven kmy keyboard is broken so [17:40:19] You're not waiting 999,999 days [17:41:27] I know its exxatrertation whatever however you speel it but like compared the time ive been waiting to the instant response from AI i am sorry really imn ot blaming anyone im just sharing my sad feelim s so bmaybe itys better if i just wait rn so like waity [17:41:28] [1/2] just another quick question, does this take a while to load, because my icon keeps appearing in some pages and then just breakin in other pages.. im new to miraheze so its a bit confusing 4 me 💔 [17:41:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1382414446521221221/image.png?ex=684b1148&is=6849bfc8&hm=2a248ad8ebdd08fad9716161bb32494a457c2ff0df41ec344361ba25da249477& [17:41:57] You've been told multiple times though and are simply trying to find ways about it [17:42:05] You are not making anyone any more likely to help you [17:42:26] The decision for the AI to only ever make a single (attempt to) review was explicit [17:43:02] Unfortunately, yours encountered a technical issue which meant it got sent to human review [17:43:06] i suppose server hickup, should resolve in the end [17:43:38] okayy ty [17:44:25] The current backlog for human review goes back to the 6th June and is being addressed in order [17:44:40] We have said we will look at getting the AI to retry [17:45:13] if the ai reviews the request and wiki creators disagree with the result that could also screw you up worse than just having it reviewed manually in the first place [17:45:26] i know man really it’s cuz i’m envious of the people that litteraly made request today and get instant response i know it’s kinda childish but whatever i will go wait now [17:45:52] Please do wait yes [17:58:37] hey, anyone have a good tutorial video / blog / or anything on miraheze? i'm incredibly new and would love to learn [17:58:47] can't find anything that's informative really [17:59:38] what is it you're trying to know? [17:59:49] mostly everything, pages, categories [18:00:16] general mediawiki know how in other words [18:00:45] there's the main guide mediawiki itself puts in but it can be a lot to start off with and things about editing the wiki's data files would instead be [[ManageWiki]] things typically [18:00:45] [18:01:16] [[Guides]] or smt exist as a compendium page [18:01:17] ohh ok [18:01:17] [18:01:21] I forget the oahw name [18:01:23] Pagw* [18:01:27] I hate spelling [18:01:40] the how to guides cover various specialized questions [18:01:51] not a large amount on the basics though, which seems to be what's needed [18:02:19] [[How-to guides]] [18:02:20] [18:02:48] i swear we had something for the basics as well [18:02:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/How-to_guides [18:13:03] Fandom guides also apply and are pretty comprehensive [18:13:20] (Although there might be slight differences such as galleries, most is a 1-1 fit) [18:13:28] most of what I pump out is miraheze specific quirks or not really useful for the basics [18:13:33] [[mw:Help]]? [18:13:34] [18:14:15] You could just raw dog it and read mediawiki source code as an alternative 😉 [18:20:45] does updatnig something in the css with the old vector skin take a while to update? im updating the code but nothing seems to update in the page itself [18:21:05] MediaWiki space changes take some time to update and are ineffectual for quick edits/tests [18:21:19] you get far more instant results by editing or even previewing in a user space css file [18:21:54] ohh okay thanks [18:22:44] do u know how long would it approximately take for a short 2-3 line edit? [18:23:44] it can depend, I have not checked in a while but I've known to check back in an hour and need to wait longer [18:29:11] you can kick cache w/ Purge button or by adding `?action=purge` in URL [18:30:11] (Size of the change has no impact on time taken for changes to be seen, just fyi) [18:30:48] `?debug=2` my beloved [20:11:54] Can we get wikibase done on our own wikis? [20:12:16] It’s in [[ManageWiki]], not even restricted iirc [20:12:17] [20:13:57] What @pixldev said [20:36:14] @theoneandonlylegroom I've been cracking at it, and now I have published a template for a portable infobox! Now, how do I add to a page? [20:37:27] you don't have to ping me for something here, anyone capable can help, we are like have same right to that, miraheze is volunteer run ... besides, im going to sleep now [22:27:36] [1/3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [22:27:36] [2/3] You'd probably want to start with something basic like this if you don't know how to use templates. [22:27:36] [3/3] I find LLMs pretty unreliable for complicated tasks, but for something simple like this they work pretty well and are most importantly more patient than humans. [23:26:52] I enabled it, but how do I actually run it? Is it in namespace management? [23:45:40] Never used it myself, best I can do is point you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase