[00:22:12] There is no db cluster on cloud20 only mediawiki servers and a cache proxy which can affect uptime for all wikis more. [00:22:57] We forgot to document all of cloud19 and 20 I think lol. Those are new this year. [00:23:23] tbf a lot of the pages are just an infobox anyway [00:23:44] but its useful to know some information on them sometimes still. [00:25:21] Also for the record the naming scheme for all servers is so a server that starts with mw20x is cloud20, db151, would be cloud15, db161 is cloud16 etc... and those server names are also mentioned in ManageWiki now as well. [00:28:39] Yeah I have noticed the db number in ManageWiki, but it doesn't state the cloud directly like that, only, in the case of my wiki `db161 (c2)`, so yeah didn't really know where cloud20 fit into that picture [00:29:04] which would be cloud16 because it's db16*1 [00:31:32] though tbh the chances are with 2 cloud servers completely offline tomorrow we will be down almost entirly. So even if you aren't on db151 cluster prepare for an outage still. [00:32:24] miracle of life [00:32:31] Fair [00:32:35] how much of miraheze can be down whilst still being able to get mediawiki to work? [00:34:26] there are certain key services that if goes down the entire farm becomes unstable. cloud15 has one of them (redis/rdb151). We are working on improving that though. [00:35:25] kafka181 on cloud18 is another, db171 is the biggest that guarantees the entire farm being down. [00:37:13] Turns out the global database is a diva and causes a ruckus when it’s put to sleep [00:38:31] divabase [00:40:41] Diva is not based [01:30:10] re "We forgot to document all of cloud19 and 20 I think lol. Those are new this year." [01:30:26] they are documented (mostly) in https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Server_usage [01:30:34] the most recent few aren't [01:30:51] I gave up trying to maintain individual server pages [02:20:58] [1/2] the guidance seems to be not useful... [02:20:58] [2/2] I try to save all the images from a page on Fandom, but the names of these images are in numbers instead of its original name [04:10:51] hi, i want to ask why my multiple image template doesnt have border/frame? [05:15:13] [1/2] how do i make it function properly [05:15:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387662462920167544/image.png?ex=685e28e0&is=685cd760&hm=15b2fd801b9753fe1ba6afdeaa8a15988ff7c82a9454776d042ef44cc49f84ce& [05:15:36] it seems that you dont have a Template called Infobox [05:17:52] i remember importing a template called infobox [05:18:42] well you do have a template called Infobox country [05:18:42] and when i tried installing the portable infobox builder it didnt quite work [05:18:53] sometimes it takes a quick refresh [05:18:57] i dont think so [05:19:09] well i refreshed and the builder worked for me [05:19:11] :shrug: [05:21:19] [1/2] welp ima try the builder again [05:21:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387664001324027904/image.png?ex=685e2a4f&is=685cd8cf&hm=71d56b52edd2d76f13fd23701be7e0b595751fb3dad8779a1214ef16cfa63919& [05:21:52] does pageimages needs to be enabled [05:22:14] [1/2] and what needs to be enabled from here [05:22:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387664231540985989/image.png?ex=685e2a86&is=685cd906&hm=a1ef649f9c3f9a3acfce38c47c99520a29067bd7fef8293bb39cd659f21b91b6& [05:22:19] Theres no source for the infobox country template to work 🤦 [05:22:27] Where did you get the Infobox template from [05:22:32] Or did you make it via the builder [05:23:07] theres a country template? [05:23:14] im using company template [05:23:15] hold on [05:24:01] I meant company [05:24:15] [1/2] wdym source [05:24:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387664739345236079/image.png?ex=685e2aff&is=685cd97f&hm=89f1079a2ef84ebfd5e72a67184fad7bf59a1e6416680f091643e28509aae77b& [05:24:38] what should the source be [05:25:02] [1/2] i found this when i clicked the blue link [05:25:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387664936712273920/image.png?ex=685e2b2e&is=685cd9ae&hm=044e0c500b2727f7017e6ef82170e5d671dc7f8337b03c59f8565ded73403557& [05:25:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387665042354471014/1387664739546697799remix-1750915525451.png?ex=685e2b47&is=685cd9c7&hm=0b62caaa305f9bb4e6590a8adff901422a397810dae6492bc44db5f9d7f6d584& [05:26:10] ok it works now [05:26:18] the builder works now [05:27:52] so i have to put name, logo and caption? [05:27:58] idk im very stupid when it comes to these things [05:30:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387666416563654696/1387665042521980938remix-1750915853171.png?ex=685e2c8f&is=685cdb0f&hm=f53779ac095be55d575f56e09bee2884c491393e20c0c0fcbfce43623f826c82& [05:31:09] all the parameters in infobox company [05:34:34] i did [05:34:37] then what should happen [05:35:24] once you added all the parameters in infobox company to the infobox template via infobox builder, it should transclude [05:37:05] it keeps looping [05:37:12] and im not good at this wiki stuff [06:21:43] try making the infobox with the portableinfobox instead [06:24:07] by using Special:InfoboxBuilder [06:25:49] discord event is up for the maintenance [07:48:30] hi i just returned, is there any solutions for my question yet? [08:53:12] hi i am back, i want to ask again about my question [09:18:17] [1/3] Okay so wtf [09:18:17] [2/3] On mobile borders work as intended, gray border, white can be seen clearly separated from the background [09:18:17] [3/3] but on desktop, the border is white, and thus not very useful [09:18:18] How and why [09:18:29] And how can I make sure the desktop version is the same [09:50:28] man you'll have to repeat your question, unfortunately, general support chat moves fast [09:51:36] border on what element in this case [09:51:57] Files [09:52:02] Specifically flag icons [10:04:56] What do you think about Moegirlpedia?I think it's not good for censorship of PRC [10:22:56] #offtopic [11:19:19] hi sorry to bother but is my problem has any solutions yet? [11:20:03] which problem [11:20:33] my multiple image template doesnt have its border [11:32:31] man please attach what you mean [11:32:36] chat moves fast [11:32:46] irc disconnects don't help [11:37:27] sorry i was waiting for the reply but it takes too long so it often disconnects [11:38:05] https://ibb.co/qLRKxT2x here's the image, the template now has been fixed to right aligned, but it lacks the border or frame [11:43:35] was those border existed befoie? [11:44:10] when it was on fandom yes, but since i move to here it disappears [12:23:15] might be the issue with the class on css [12:23:39] what wiki is that? [12:24:03] https://chidurianwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Multiple_image/styles.css here's the link to my styles.css [12:35:24] Um, that logo feels like WMF trademark infringement [12:36:01] Chijd: is that the Wikipedia W? [12:36:36] thats wikipedia written in my own language [12:37:08] Thats the wikipedia W thoug [12:37:26] Chijd: you can't use the Wikipedia W [12:37:42] nor the word Wikipedia [12:37:53] i know i am about to change it soon, just dont know what will replace it [12:38:15] Chijd: you need to remove it asap [12:44:48] ok i have removed [13:18:51] [1/3] How do I enable citation templates on my Wiki, like the ones on Wikipedia? [13:18:51] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387784173342949376/image.png?ex=685e9a3a&is=685d48ba&hm=1ec0a0d3d0f6ff7377a9ac14894cbad6af3a1270d824dff8ca2048a1c5dfa917& [13:18:51] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387784173670109194/image.png?ex=685e9a3a&is=685d48ba&hm=ec7561a859a4f2f7fcebf81418c89df85ba41321e59a8adfd0a5d32cbaa92ebf& [14:50:21] add {{Relist}} on the == References == section [14:50:21]

[14:51:21] [[w:Template:Reflist]] [14:51:21]

[14:53:56] No, that's not what I meant. I meant templates like [Cite:Web](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web) and automatic citations. Currently, only 'Basic' citations are available. [14:56:40] ah, my bad, could've ask a bit for more details earlier [15:04:43] citoid is the extension for the auto cite, though i have no clue about the installation for it [16:52:10] Does anyone know how to change the homepage text to a custom image i uploaded? Sorry if its a simple question, i just havent found any instructions for it written anywhere. I should clarify im on vector-2022 [16:53:11] homepage text? [16:53:20] you mean name of the wiki at the top? [16:54:04] Brr brr Elgg [16:54:17] on vector 2022 it's a wordmark, after you uploaded image to wiki you need to get its raw URL and put in wordmark setting [16:57:11] [1/11] yeah, the little top left button that takes you to the main page. I have a custom image i want to replace it with, but Im not sure if im doing it properly I entered this but it didnt work [16:57:11] [2/11] ``` [16:57:11] [3/11] #p-logo { [16:57:12] [4/11] background-image: url("https://static.wikitide.net/sovereignsunderingwiki/1/1a/Sovereign_sundering_transparent.png"); [16:57:12] [5/11] background-size: contain; [16:57:12] [6/11] background-position: center center; [16:57:13] [7/11] background-repeat: no-repeat; [16:57:13] [8/11] width: 160px; [16:57:13] [9/11] height: 80px; [16:57:14] [10/11] ``` [16:57:14] [11/11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387839117961990268/image.png?ex=685ecd66&is=685d7be6&hm=68b1b9bbb1f9d38d9540363ea11810f6b62980322c4ca6429d3d39e54763a1cc& [16:57:46] oh its not done in vector-2022? [16:58:35] [1/3] I repeat, you should do that in wiki settings [16:58:35] [2/3] there must be Administration sidebar, click on Mamage this wiki's additional settings link [16:58:35] [3/3] look for wordmark setting (either w/ little search bar on in Styling tab) [16:59:14] iirc admin sidebar should appear under tools on the left, in vector 2023 [16:59:47] *right [17:00:19] Ok i see now, thank you, i thought i had to change it via CSS [17:45:04] In an hour and half, emergency maintenance will be happening [18:04:04] it's in the public domain [18:04:45] also doesnt have a ® [18:04:58] Not true [18:05:06] They have a valid trademark [18:05:15] [1/2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia%27s_W.svg [18:05:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387856251920191629/image.png?ex=685edd5b&is=685d8bdb&hm=f061bf6da53376ea70eb987746e043dcf1a0e4341520fba3c6a2099830b8da4c& [18:05:19] Please see Wikimedia's brand guidelines [18:05:29] ive read them [18:05:31] just now [18:05:32] Copyright = trademark [18:05:40] There is a valid trademark in place [18:06:37] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Wikimedia_trademarks [18:06:48] they are CC [18:06:53] BY-SA [18:07:04] That doesn't matter [18:07:08] ie free to adapt commercially [18:07:11] The trademark rules apply too [18:07:23] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Policy:Wikimedia_Foundation_Trademark_Policy applies [18:07:46] The trademark in place takes precedence over the copyright license [18:08:56] The 'W' icon is a trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation and permission must be sought for use that falls outside of the trademark policy & brand guidelines [18:09:19] hm [18:09:48] Thank you, it's working but sadly (.-) returns after the first match, is there a way to add the regex tag "global" [18:10:33] the W has no specific visual guidelines [18:11:46] There would need to be permission from the Wikimedia Foundation's legal department [18:13:08] oh actually [18:13:08] no [18:13:13] its not the wikipedia W [18:13:26] its just a W in a serif font [18:13:44] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387858383910211795/128px-Wikipedia27s_W.png?ex=685edf57&is=685d8dd7&hm=c916a7298f8fbed684a7608fb26de972bf637bb3205c07b9d8cd3bb2164a28c4& [18:13:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387858384241557745/latest.png?ex=685edf57&is=685d8dd7&hm=121fdd4ed0bc9671e9ea1609452acc663e76a9237fdb7540a1a4a2cc771290bc& [18:14:07] whether Wikipedie is infringing im not sure tho [18:16:00] i wouldnt say it's misleading necessarily [18:26:19] why is it we cant ctrl + B to bold and ctrl + I to italicize anyway [18:30:23] [1/2] Whether its “exactly the same” logo, or just a serif W, its stylised exactly like, and looks exactly like the Wikipedia W; that is presumably done to make it seem like there is some connection to Wikipedia and is an effort to use Wikipedia’s reputation to add some beef behind the wiki. If someone were to navigate to that wiki and not see the MH logo and t [18:30:23] [2/2] hink they were on Wikipedia (by the logo and the name, which makes it 10x worse), thats a clear infringement on WMFs trademark [18:44:30] [1/2] miraheze math 😍 [18:44:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1387866129200058529/image.png?ex=685ee68e&is=685d950e&hm=d8db0d9774e46ebb133454c5944c2d0352e7590b67a4f849493dcae699a82dea& [18:45:36] That was originally correct but when we expanded to cloud20 we expanded by 30 minutes. [18:46:13] and forgot to update the minutes lol [18:46:21] indeed [18:46:33] it would be really funny to make a PR for this real quick [18:46:58] not going to though, I am cooking [18:47:01] throwback when a PR was made just to fix a typo 😍 [18:47:12] two actually [18:47:19] Won't be needed 13 minutes before maintenance lol [18:47:52] hence why it would be funny but a waste of... everything really [18:48:07] looks fine to me fr [18:48:24] is this dig wiki [18:48:41] every wiki but the screenshot is from there yes [18:49:00] yeah i guessed where you took that from [18:49:07] big surprise [18:49:21] dig [18:49:29] :thanks: [18:49:41] what does 0.1 + 0.2 equal [18:49:49] :thanks: [18:50:46] wrong, try again [18:50:55] cosmic did you type something for 5 minutes then erased it [18:51:08] :WikiTide: [18:51:12] I was gonna post here but will post in #tech instead. [18:51:17] wrong, its 0.30000000000000004 [18:52:43] doomsday starting 7 mins [19:00:34] ho ho ho [19:00:36] just in time [19:00:41] finished like 30 seconds ago [19:00:42] argh [19:00:42] thank god [19:04:51] it's doomsday, doomsday [19:04:53] gonna get down on doomsday [19:05:08] everybody's looking forward to the death of all of us uh [19:05:44] (taken from ||epikrika on youtube||) [19:09:50] We'll be fan [19:10:03] It's only replacing 2 of the fans to a better spec that matches the rest of the fleet [19:19:48] are wikis down? or is it just me [19:20:36] #announcements [19:20:44] See #annoucements and the event [19:21:58]