`, make text inside it look like header, give it an id for linking, but it won't appear in table of contents [11:56:26] and technically shouldn't be affected by mobile collapsing [11:57:41] I'm trying to do that on the main page, where I've hidden the default page title [12:01:42] [1/2] the intended effect is that the h1 tag acts as the title in a way that looks somewhat like this [12:01:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1389214309028204544/image.png?ex=6863ce25&is=68627ca5&hm=4b5dab9c4e57ed164eb36baeaee6637b66714955bdb7d4bb12ca62a42aff36d0& [12:03:53] In ManageWiki/settings "MobileFrontend Collapse Sections By Default ($wgMFCollapseSectionsByDefault" I believe fixes your issue [12:04:10] but it will affect the entire wiki [12:04:29] headers aren't really used on main page [12:05:15] it's divs w/ styled text instide [12:06:00] yea you'll have to use CSS [12:08:09] Alright [12:24:45] Test [12:29:13] test successful [12:29:31] (just for reference, this is not me, am just responding) [12:49:31] can someone explain why my wikis common.js is not being executed even tho theres nothing dangerous in it (as far as i know) [12:50:08] are you sure the code is correct? [13:15:30] i think [13:15:34] so/ [13:15:45] if someone can check for me id appreciate it [13:15:58] link? [13:16:11] https://animebattlearena.miraheze.org/MediaWiki:Common.js [13:30:58] oh its probably because of domcontentloaded [13:32:13] [1/2] also [13:32:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1389237091287957684/image.png?ex=6863e35d&is=686291dd&hm=c8f2d52d275b3b8f44e50aa33d84aa4f51c50efe3a47d5ac6ac1e01d8bf5b13a& [13:42:15] uhhh can you explain the messages a bit [13:42:22] since idk much about js [13:45:08] mw.util.addLink does not exist, that much I can tell you rn [13:45:37] admittedly I haven't done much interaction with js libraries on mw, so I'm researching things rn [13:46:12] Does miraheze allow "almost anything goes" wikis with rules that strictly prohibit nsfw, gore, illegal, and hate speech content? [13:47:06] wdym by that [13:47:31] do you want to make rules to prohibit those on your wiki...? [13:49:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy - I guess it would depend how constructive the page is, but a general rule is, if its illegal in the US then it's not allowed. [13:49:57] [1/2] define "anything goes" [13:49:57] [2/2] general encyclopedia kinds of wikis a la Wikipedia aren't allowed [13:50:01] [1/2] I wanna create a new wiki called "Anypedia", which is an online encyclopedia where you can put almost anything as an article, as long as it abides by miraheze's content guidelines! [13:50:01] [2/2] And articles on anypedia can be real, fictional, hybrid, etc. while the articles are explicitly tagged to describe them if they're real or not! [13:50:08] check the content policy linked above [13:50:37] yeah that definitely won't fly [13:50:41] won't fly [13:50:50] Yeah ur right... [13:51:00] Self hosting is hard for me [13:51:18] why do you need a wikipedia clone? [13:51:40] Since wikipedia has strict content guidelines [13:51:45] maybe they meant a place for stuff like meme articles? [13:51:53] or something that wikipedia wont allow [13:51:53] assuming you want other people a) use it b) contribute over there [13:52:16] competing wikipedia is nearly impossible [13:52:31] that kind of content, generally doesn't lend itself to money even through advertisements. Unless you can provide some kind of encyploedic value a wiki probably isn't the best avenue. [13:53:56] are there any other wiki farms that allow my idea? [13:55:53] fandom, maybe? [13:55:59] idk anything about fandom [13:56:11] Fandom is trash [13:56:34] it is yeah [13:57:18] [1/2] The problem is, your scope is way too large to have any hope of policing what is allowed. Say you wanted to include all media that includes blackface and its a section of your wiki. Whats to stop people from creating articles on a random youtube video that also includes blackface, but it isn't for the purposes of providing encyclopedic value such as could be [13:57:18] [2/2] included about an article for the use in early movies, but it is actually racist. There isn't a lot of sites that will just accept that kind of scope. [13:57:57] But at least I will add rules that prohibit that kind of content [13:58:06] vandals man [13:58:11] Mods, can feel free to delete my comment, since I know its kind of stepping out of the use of this general area, but I feel my point is made. [13:58:15] there always will be people to shit on rules [13:58:19] you'll need mods [13:58:26] then it's not really an Anypedia [13:58:37] It's why I say your scope is too large. [13:59:49] I agree [14:00:14] [1/2] not so sound discouraging, but such project is rather ambitious [14:00:15] [2/2] you don't have clear focus, you need to build a community, and you are essentially competing Wikipedia [14:00:31] You kind of need to pinpoint what you'd like, otherwise your gonna find you have 10,000 pages of pure racism and hate content, and no one is going to want to host that stuff. [14:00:48] least we forgot that there are several wikipedia clones or mirrors clogging up search engines too [14:00:57] Ok, I'll scrap the idea. [14:01:43] yes [14:01:54] [1/2] but [14:01:54] [2/2] t [14:01:55] not like [14:02:03] they are going to still allow such a wiki [14:02:32] You sound like you need a forum, maybe you can build a community around that, and then maybe if you have a few people, you can make a wiki about posts from that forum. But it'd help you flesh out your idea. [14:12:21] [1/4] I have an idea, instead of an "Anypedia", Why not make a wiki called "Multipedia", which is an online encyclopedia that explains a wide range of topics based on these types of reality: real, fiction, hybrid, hypotheses, etc. [14:12:22] [2/4] Users on multipedia can create articles about (almost) anything from their minds, and each article should be explicitly tagged with a template telling wether the info is real or not. [14:12:22] [3/4] And as of course, although it's less restrictive than wikipedia, not everything goes into multipedia, as it will only cover things that have gained popularity or alternative to things that have gained popularity! [14:12:22] [4/4] Is this a good idea? [14:12:56] nah [14:13:12] And btw, multipedia will OF COURSE have rules against illegal content, NSFW content, hate speech, and other bad stuff. [14:13:15] imean its still too broad [14:13:50] you're welcome to try and request such a wiki but you will likely be denied [14:14:27] I can't request a wiki cuz of "anti spam measures" [14:14:43] have you requested a wiki recently? [14:14:59] I requested anypedia, but rejected it for good [14:15:08] there's a cooldown [14:15:15] not quite sure how long it was [14:15:38] idk, I'm not sure there's that much difference between the Anypedia and Multipedia idea. [14:16:08] it feels like you just changed Any to Multi [14:17:12] just because you follow 2/3 of content policy doesn't you pass through remaining 1/3 [14:17:30] the scope is too broad, it still comes of as wikipedia coone [14:18:19] consider this - you want the wiki to be used/seen? you'll need a strong community for that AND to cover such wide range of topics [14:18:36] It's multi as in multiverse, representing different realities [14:18:42] ude [14:20:37] When we said your wiki encompases too much in its scope before, you still picked everything in the store. I was expecting you'd comeback with like a Sonic Wiki idea, where there's still like a large fanfic behind it, but you can desginate a difference between Real and Fake. [14:20:44] wikipedia clone also mean "im making wikipedia that will be less strict" [14:20:46] Like when we speak about narrowing your scope, thats kind of what we mean. [14:25:25] Have there been any major policy changes lately? A gold few translations on Meta have gone out of date it seems [14:26:02] i think so? [14:26:18] there's also draft or rfc for more changes iirc [14:26:50] I haven't been on top of it for a while, so I will have to handle it in bulk [14:28:18] One thing I wish the Xlate extension let you do is have canned edit summaries [14:38:46] [1/2] https://nfs.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [14:38:46] [2/2] Can someone inform the founder to merge with another wiki [14:45:59] Try and contact them yourself first [14:46:17] Also it seems like it's gonna be closed [14:46:26] so it's a non-issue either way [14:46:30] [1/4] this is the guy [14:46:31] [2/4] [14:46:31] [3/4] leave a message on their talk page [14:46:31] [4/4] however i feel it's loast cause [14:47:37] or email them straight since it might count as activity on the wiki [14:48:11] wiki is private tho [14:48:43] oh right you gave a meta link lmao [14:48:45] my bad [14:48:47] you either reach founder or wait for deletion 🤷 [14:50:07] [1/2] @asko1 fixed my js and for some reason it didnt load past the intial console log message [14:50:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1389256694340784189/image.png?ex=6863f59f&is=6862a41f&hm=6f144eac0f48e1901811f54500ea865e8824097d8a1c790dc3b432dbd8594edb& [15:07:42] [1/7] try [15:07:42] [2/7] ``` [15:07:43] [3/7] $( document ).ready( function () { [15:07:43] [4/7] // ... code ... [15:07:55] [5/7] } ); [15:07:55] [6/7] ``` [15:08:07] [7/7] instead of using domcontentloaded [15:08:26] you might also find https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_scripts/Guide to be helpful [15:20:41] this worked [15:20:42] ty [15:27:38] nvm [15:27:55] somehow it stopped working after i changed the font type in the template [15:29:39] nvm im just dumb [15:31:14] I ve tried tp contact them [15:31:29] wellp [15:32:13] if the don't check their email (very likely considering closed state of the wiki) then it's kaput, nobody can do anything private wiki [15:32:36] and it's gonna close soon enough [15:32:43] can we close it or merge it? [15:33:05] It'll delete naturally eventually [15:33:09] yep.So can we close it and redirect the url to another wiki [15:33:34] [1/2] ask on stewards request [15:33:35] [2/2] maybe they'll analyze situation and do something about it [15:33:37] you can claim their url upon deletion, yes [15:33:38] no guarantees [16:10:21] We do not, as a rule, accelerate closure/deletion of wikis beyond dormancy policy without a very good reason. [16:11:32] Taking a quick peek, there was actually some content created so this isn't a fully blank wiki situation where we might be more flexible. 😦 [16:13:25] [1/2] @huannengqizhaban ^ [16:13:25] [2/2] in short - wait for automatic deletion [16:19:56] that private wiki are competing with our wiki!! [16:20:06] our wiki isn't private [16:20:51] My idea is merge that wiki [16:23:05] how a private wiki and a public wiki would do that [16:24:40] they are straight up not competing with you [16:24:45] they are dead [16:24:53] [1/2] it literally not competing, it got closed for inactivity [16:24:53] [2/2] it just hangs there until it gets deleted automatically or owner wakes up and opens it [16:25:16] and yeah, no competition as well when it's private [16:25:22] like nobody can access it [16:33:41] Including search engines. The only page a search engine can see is the mainpage, which has no content of note. [17:19:29] is the rfxhelper not working on the steward request/permissions page? i tried sending smth over there and i think it isnt working [17:20:39] We've had some challenges with it from time to time. [17:20:48] Which permission option were you requesting? [17:21:05] request administrator or bereaucrat on a specific wiki [17:21:20] iirc [17:21:22] Thanks. Pinging @suzuneu to poke at it when they have a free moment [17:21:35] Feel free to file ta request without using the RfX helper in the meantime [17:21:44] alr, thx [18:27:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1389311383660662794/Screenshot_2025-06-30_at_2.26.59_PM.png?ex=6864288e&is=6862d70e&hm=b13df2553d4b1020cbe90e35eb41af163ad538092da83a9e3a7cc12d4f384f15& [18:27:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1389311386349338664/Screenshot_2025-06-30_at_2.27.05_PM.png?ex=6864288e&is=6862d70e&hm=395612e0bbde469b071259c0c1db23a989ae3edee4456d4335adaf296c3e02b5& [18:27:36] why is the image still massive even though i set it to 300px [18:33:38] i think it should be just 300? [18:33:49] actually wait [18:33:56] [[mw:Help:Images]] [18:33:56]

[18:34:45] `An image with frame always ignores the size specification; the original image will be reduced if it exceeds the maximum size defined in user preferences, and the page information will display a Linter error.` [18:35:11] @cat.bread ^ [18:35:30] :Cereal: [18:35:37] what the fuck [18:35:49] may i ask why this is the case? [18:35:52] i'm not familiar with CSS [18:36:08] yeah, i also never used frame [18:36:23] idk what exactly it even does [18:36:44] try w/o it [18:36:53] or use thumb [18:37:05] thumb gives ugly framing tho [18:37:09] true [18:37:16] but it's required for caption right? [18:37:27] if you don't have caption just don't use anything [18:37:32] just size and alignment [18:38:16] yea you need frame or thumb for a caption [18:41:54] Also never understood why image syntax only accept px for size... like relative units in general are just WAY better for anything that isn't like a border width or similar [19:04:36] fellas [19:04:43] when is miraheze birthday [19:05:49] July 22 [21:04:08] if my wiki's on a whitelist basis and account names only appear when people edit [21:04:14] what can i do to invite new users [21:08:19] Account names will appear when someone is logged in on your wiki. They don't need to edit to make that happen. [21:08:26] AH [21:08:27] ok [21:08:28] 👍 [21:44:33] Randomly found out my IP is banned on Miraheze [21:44:41] I didn’t even do anything so that cool [21:47:26] Depending on your FAI, most ip rotate/are shared [21:47:46] So could be someone else that did weird thing and got banned but now you have it's ip [21:49:57]