[00:01:10] omg its john wingdings [00:01:19] miraheze is "fun" [00:01:21] coding is "fun" [00:01:27] gotta figure this out man [00:03:43] That's just mediawiki [00:04:54] you're right [00:04:57] you're so right [00:25:05] https://babelredux.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox/styles.css [00:25:09] nothing changed for the infoboxes [00:28:17] Do non-english wikis exist in Miraheze? [00:28:26] [1/3] For some reason, even if I pass the image manually by using [00:28:26] [2/3] ```| seo = Fear Logo.png``` [00:28:26] [3/3] It still chooses a random image from the gallery [00:29:23] I'm also aware that some seo changes may take 15mins-1 hour, I think I've waited long past that [00:30:24] I put the seo parameter after the gallery, like in the example you showed as well [00:30:46] yes, quite a few actually [00:31:30] So like, if there's a existent english wiki, is it possible to make a non-english wiki for it? Like how Fandom does it [00:31:45] i don't see why not [01:09:16] I've seen many Russian, Japanese, Mandarin, and Spanish wikis, so yeah [01:10:20] [1/2] btw, only me? [01:10:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1397385310488232016/image.png?ex=688187fc&is=6880367c&hm=59c9319bb1baab4ae15536e83086e1694daee47c7d699ae592d8209e1b92ffb2& [01:10:29] nope! was wondering if it was only me [01:10:41] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp201 at Wed, 23 Jul 2025 01:10:31 GMT [01:10:41] [2/2] Varnish XID 617776489, serving [ip] [01:10:41] Yeah wiki just exploded for me as well [01:10:48] Signs suggest something may be on fire [01:10:53] Nope [01:10:59] we have deployed the void to eat the fire [01:11:25] free seats available in the server room upon request [01:13:06] Back for me [01:13:11] miraheze on fire on its 10th anniversary, happy anniversary yall [01:13:40] not a proper birthday without a heart attack in the end [01:13:40] Back for me too [01:13:58] I geuss someone tried to set of fireworks in the server room too celebrate? 😛 [01:14:03] i was gonna say lol [01:14:24] what kind of birthdays have you been attending [01:15:07] old people ones lmao [01:15:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1397386529852358736/Miraheze.gif?ex=6881891e&is=6880379e&hm=0bc64622ed0f97af596d0ff6af149bf7b8b8fe9fee6d5497cc2a9ab06d386243& [01:16:57] my page isloading now [01:17:01] same [01:17:17] just a hiccup [01:26:22] @bartomelow Hello and thank you!! 🥳 Learning lots on a new system! [01:28:34] if you're like, wanting to go with easy steps first, you could use the cosmos skin [01:30:27] The devs overruled me and we're using Vector 😌 It's fine I'll just rewrite the entirety of the CSS it's chill [01:30:49] ar eyou su,re [01:31:06] The cache for our DPL has been my main struggle today! So we'll see how that turns out tomorrow! [01:31:25] pls use dpl34 [01:31:44] anyone caught using old dpl will have a sadder time [01:31:45] I am definitely using DPL3! [01:31:57] you wont believe what just happened a few hours ago lol [01:32:04] [1/2] Frantically searching "this vs this" all day today [01:32:05] [2/2] Oh no 👀 [01:32:17] a lot of things to search :3 [01:32:23] oh nothing scary but dpl4 is a thing now [01:32:36] newer better badder [01:33:20] I only found out today that 4 even existed! I look forward to it 😈 [01:33:27] (i'm terrified) [01:35:44] that's because it became a thing just today lol [01:36:08] Oh literally today!! Wow [01:36:11] (or well, it's been in the making for a bit but kinda officially got renamed today) [01:36:35] 🥳🥳 Happy birthday to dpl4, may you live long and prosper [01:38:49] Ohh, what are some of the improvements in the new 4 over 3? [01:41:33] displaytitles are finally supported, for one [01:42:12] performance gains from using querybuilder [01:42:22] not to mention reliability [01:42:50] you can make a slideshow with the gallery mode [01:43:08] more changes here: https://github.com/Universal-Omega/DynamicPageList3/releases [02:01:17] a lot lol. Basically completely rewriten fixed more than 20 bugs, improved performance and security, and introduced a bunch of long requested features. [02:02:15] Template:Extension DPL is no longer used either so if using DPL4 feel free to delete it lol [02:02:35] who better to answer than the author himself [02:08:03] [1/16] The primary reason I chose now to rewrite it is because the old version was never going to be able to get working on the next release, MediaWiki 1.45 due to categorylinks changing and it was just a great opportunity to release an entirely revamped DPL4 that is just totally different with a bunch of new features and bug fixes. There will still be more added. Like a `gallerysize` [02:08:03] [2/16] to change the image size. Before you would have to do like this: [02:08:03] [3/16] ``` [02:08:03] [4/16] namespace = File [02:08:04] [5/16] count = 3 [02:08:04] [6/16] format = ,%PAGE%\n,,/gallery [02:08:04] [7/16] ``` [02:08:05] [8/16] And even then not everything was possible with it now it literally works just like: [02:08:05] [9/16] ``` [02:08:05] [10/16] namespace = File [02:08:06] [11/16] count = 3 [02:08:07] [12/16] mode = gallery [02:08:07] [13/16] gallerymode = packed [02:08:07] [14/16] ``` [02:08:08] [15/16] so all thats left to simplify such stuff and make it much easier to use is size control lol. [02:08:08] [16/16] Also `namespace=main` works now (and will eventually be required but for now isn't for backward compatibility), before it just used `namespace=` for main namespace which isnt to clear lol [02:09:12] plus you can now make a galleries of actual pages (not just file pages) using images from PageImages also. [02:10:00] Anyway just the tip of the iceberg with the changes it has lol [02:22:09] So is it installed on MH already, or if not, is there an estimate when we can expect it? [02:23:31] Its installed on MH wikis using MediaWiki 1.44 so if you don't opt in to NextTide you can expect it after the primary MediaWiki 1.44 upgrade for all wikis. [02:24:59] (ooo you wanna sacrifice your wiki to nexttide) [02:25:09] DPL4 is technically still in alpha release stages, but in reality the "alpha" release is more stable then the "stable" release with how many bug fixes etc... lol [02:25:47] Funny how stable/unstable terminology, vs reality can work sometimes 😄 [02:26:26] unstable always makes it sound like it's a bomb smh [02:27:09] unstable? you mean my parents' emotions? [02:27:32] ma'am, therapy channel is that way [02:27:36] Except bombs do tend to pretty stable, afterall you want the explosion to happen, when you want it to, not some random time 😛 [02:27:53] just kidding, just kidding [02:28:01] only my mother is emotionally unstable [02:28:04] my father is abusive all around [02:28:18] Yep lol. DPL4 also makes it possible for me to actually fix future reported bugs. I hardly understood the old code (it was well just a total mess lol) but the new one I have written basically 100% from scratch so it makes future maintenance much easier and it to become a truly maintained extension that it hasn't been since the Hydra days. [02:28:35] i assembled it in a shed out of fertilizer, it's.... a load of shit really [02:29:34] No idea who or what Hydra is, but that alone sounds like a massive benefit for sure [02:29:52] I edited the message to clarify. Hydra was Gamepedia [02:30:00] Ahh [02:30:10] how many extensions has CA rewritten this year alone [02:30:19] machinetranslation, createwiki, managewiki, DPL4 [02:30:27] many lol [02:30:44] DataDump, WikiDiscover, GlobalNewFiles also lol [02:30:50] my fucking god [02:30:53] well [02:30:59] at least they're now modern codebases :D [02:31:10] yep lol [02:31:21] i guess you could say they are cosmically better than before [02:31:24] now i wonder [02:31:31] what's the oldest piece of software i've written that i still use [02:32:07] wow, and most of those are certianly not small on their own. Do make sure you take care of yourself too though, can't rewrite you afterall 😉 [02:32:11] my local fork of waybar i guess?? [02:32:16] june 2023 [02:32:26] idk about you but i have a gun ready to shoot any software i've made [02:33:04] ah, my script that starts up mpd: october 2021 [02:35:30] I got a (good or bad?) habbit of fully rewriting extensions when I see just one piece of code I don't like now lol. I go to make a PR to fix that one issue and it turns into a PR with over 800 commits, almost 15,000 lines changed and over 100 files lol (as happened with CreateWiki and similarly ManageWiki) [02:35:38] good for code quality [02:35:44] bad for time management + your sleep schedule [02:35:51] but if we're being honest, your sleep schedule is fucked either way [02:35:55] What sleep schedule? [02:36:37] Never heard of it [02:37:01] you won't believe this, but i've started sleeping at 22:00 and 23:00 recently [02:37:02] circadian rhythm might be asleep [02:37:06] LMFAO [02:41:26] Oldest code I've written that's still in use belongs to any of my user scripts that I initially wrote in like 2017. Several of them even still work, if you can believe it :P [02:42:34] I mean they do kinda have to (at least partially) work, before you can even consider them "in use" afterall 😉 [02:42:48] omg user scripts [02:42:52] i have one dated feb 2021 [02:43:09] s/i have one/my oldest one is/ [02:52:10] [1/5] This is how what I want my wiki to look like: [02:52:11] [2/5] - The Menu (from Vector Legacy and Timeless) or specifically Citizen Items will be in the menu [02:52:11] [3/5] - The Edit, Edit Source, Purge, Watch and History Buttons will be scrolling in the bottom right [02:52:11] [4/5] - The Top Header will take inspiration from the Cosmos Skin [02:52:12] [5/5] - The design is taken inspiration from ProleWiki [04:05:40] Can be shrunk? [04:15:44] [1/3] As the day of our decade anniversary, I just wanted to take the time to mention here on Discord (in addition to what I said on wiki) that Miraheze definitely would not be still operating if it wasn’t for our Donors. Thank you for contributing financial to a project that myself and several others have dedicated a lot of long restless nights and hard work into over the years. [04:15:44] [2/3] It’s crazy to think 8 years ago I joined Miraheze, and the SRE team trusted me fresh off the street to assist in wiki creation, then just short time later the community at the time entrusting me to operate the (now defunct) Proxybot to enforce our proxy policy (while myself hadn’t even had any global rights), then entrusting me to join the tech team for a couple years. [04:15:44] [3/3] It’s been a fun ride, and I’m ready to see where it goes from here in the next decade. [04:19:01] ohhh, is that why the logo is different [04:19:06] Yes [04:19:27] so Miraheze was established today? [04:19:32] on the 22nd [04:19:33] 10 years ago tep [04:19:44] damn, one day later and it'd be on my birthday [04:19:52] smh [04:31:40] I probably use some of em 😂 [04:49:40] Bruh, if only u could css [07:57:36] does anyone else know how this can be solved? [07:58:04] infobox was created using [SimpleInfobox]() [08:03:23] Are you using any custom CSS [08:03:56] I just did this [08:04:05] but the issue existed even before I did that [08:05:01] I might have been using a CSS for some templates that required it (I don't remember which exactly) but otherwise no [08:05:33] Can you try adding ?safemode=1 to the end of the page’s URL and see if its still doing it [08:12:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1397491427419881544/image.png?ex=6881ead0&is=68809950&hm=5af0fd4f4edd02f1a965476b0afc5a4803bc5a31c0e33deb553e9fccf7c6676c& [08:12:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1397491551860686941/image.png?ex=6881eaee&is=6880996e&hm=4deb96e86c293882a4ae3df652cec3da761afc96d4c73d845d1d18bcc1ddb515& [09:32:17] I should of clarified, on the article page [10:06:14] omg girl im seeing your VISION [10:06:24] 🤩 [10:17:07] Updated with Glassmorphism Design: [10:18:49] [1/5] - Pencil Icon: Edit [10:18:49] [2/5] - "I" Icon: Edit Source [10:18:50] [3/5] - Bomb Icon: Purge [10:18:50] [4/5] - Clock Icon: View History [10:18:50] [5/5] - Eye Icon: Watch [10:36:35] i absolutely love this [10:36:38] its so pretty [10:43:13] the closest alternative may be Citizen unfortunately 😓 to me this seems to be a mix of 3 skins: vector 2022, evolution, and citizen [10:45:06] I wanna customise it [10:46:11] [1/2] the right-lane buttons should have labels as well [10:46:12] [2/2] i read them as edit, ?, delete?, history, watch? [10:46:34] the usual process is to poke page w/ browser's web tool/element inspector, then apply changes to skin's CSS page, for example Vector skin - MediaWiki:Vector.css [10:46:37] It looks very good [10:51:40] Gm [10:55:45] it looks so pretty indeed [10:55:56] if only mediawiki skins were easier to do/maintain [11:05:36] That's not the animated prototype. I made it so that the labels wil appear once you hover on the buttons. [11:06:39] ah i see [11:08:39] oh, yeah, when I add it to the article it should be, I'll do that, sorry! [11:12:13] https://tenor.com/view/walter-walter-white-walter-white-absolute-cinema-white-walter-absolute-gif-10929974052418095046 [11:18:36] WWW [11:18:57] nice that you designed it on Figma [11:19:09] but have you prepped the css? [11:19:38] I know css-ing all that will be hard [11:30:08] I have to convert it to CSS [11:32:07] Exactly, This skin is used in ProleWiki, one of the communist encyclopedias [11:40:48] and it's origin was from star citizen wiki [12:03:44] oof good luck [12:28:30] how do i stop p tags from escaping from details tags [13:11:57] one of what [13:22:16] bump this again [14:32:19] somebody update dar news section on meta's main page!111!!! [14:38:30] I probably will if I dont get beat to it [14:43:45] Actually looks like it was just for some reason Cache isnt updating on that page [14:43:47] Hmmm [14:44:11] Purging doesnt even cause it update… weitf [14:46:45] just normal mediawiki jank ig [14:47:36] oh wait [14:47:39] It was added yesterday, so it should be showing by now either way [14:47:42] you need to mark the page for translation [14:49:32] then it should work [14:59:12] [1/9] The Tools Tab: Options that include: [14:59:12] [2/9] - What links here [14:59:12] [3/9] - Related changes [14:59:12]