[00:40:46] gotcha. thanks! [01:34:52] [1/2] Wow [01:34:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399203424351944854/image.png?ex=6888253c&is=6886d3bc&hm=f6eab05cdadc193a31f08b9c305d7149d5cff35fa54e2e6b8c9f108866410286& [01:34:55] never knew of rthis extension [01:35:30] is 1 account allowed to make multiple wikis? [01:35:35] yeah [01:35:53] got it [01:35:55] thank you [01:38:06] [1/3] Trying to make a single border go across the entire thumbnail (image+caption) but my old code broke and I can't find any updated code that works with the current version of Timeless (and css viewer software haven't really helped either). Anyone have a fix? [01:38:06] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399204235454844938/image.png?ex=688825fd&is=6886d47d&hm=69ba3c366b9ed6afedd004d01f61c7d2d60599bce8d4d51da4cf1906ae0de9b4& [01:38:06] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399204235723149334/image.png?ex=688825fd&is=6886d47d&hm=35cf1068970164658505751a80db24c4ceb3a5d3c7026581d5c0eafebebc8175& [01:42:55] i read it as WeChat :bonkcatsmile: [03:58:41] is there a way to rename user groups [03:59:07] nvm i found it [04:31:26] Question: is there a way to use DPL3 to output, within a given category, only subcategories that contain X amount of pages? [04:52:30] I don't think so but there will be in DPL4 (which will be finished soon) now that you gave me the idea lol. [04:53:23] Thanks! I'd really appreciate the feature, haha. [04:54:35] It could be useful yeah. DPL4 will be finished this week. Well its kinda already finished other than whatever bug reports come up but now I have something else to add lol. [04:58:24] Will it be possible to use DPL4 to get the parameters in a template and pass them into Lua? [04:59:04] DPL 4.1 or whatever I decide unless I do decide to make it in the original version will have native lua support. [04:59:33] so you could call DPL itself all through lua. [05:00:44] I didn't plan to make that in the initial release of it but it is something ive planned to add eventually since I started working on DPL4. [05:02:59] Pulling all the stops, I can't wait [05:06:02] [1/3] another question. below ive attached an example to explain it better. but i was wondering if it was possible to make the header (Non-Player Characters) link to a page? I still want it where it is/how it looks, but was wondering if I'd be able to link it to the relevant page to save space on the sidebar. i tried the same method of linking that was used for "NPC List" but it doesnt wo [05:06:03] [2/3] rk. any help would be appreciated! though it might just be a problem with the styling of the wiki page itself ^^ [05:06:03] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399256567160766514/image.png?ex=688856ba&is=6887053a&hm=a30f01f76dc305b270174e2b3252b0cee86e85c46126228f30aa28f3f1c667b8& [05:06:05] Just asking, can I ask for an oversight for something that I believe are violating our local law? [05:07:09] why not [05:08:24] Idk if you will hide that but illegal betting site? [05:25:33] How could I add new elements to a skin? [05:27:22] JavaScript [05:31:04] And also, Citizen works best in 1920x1080, how am I supposed to use a template to modify the skin? [05:31:28] So I can have a roadmap on what the site looks like, instead of having to depend on text CSS editing [05:34:35] A template (i.e. a page in the Template: namespace that you use on other pages) can only modify the HTML and inline CSS styles at most [05:34:36] What you're looking for is modifying the site look using CSS and by using JavaScript to add HTML elements / add UI behaviour [05:35:19] Not a template used for wikis, but a reference the skin so I can get a roadmap on what the wiki looks like [05:35:25] And also a visual CSS Editor\ [05:35:38] CA rewriting key extensions on a lark, benevolence edition. [05:36:40] DPL4 is a great step forward, jokes aside. Looking forward to once it's been through user testing and fully stable. 🙂 [05:45:29] hey lol. [05:45:33] First, I would add a header that will include the wordmark, searchbar and account profile (which will be moved to the top right) using JS [05:46:20] And then, the Edit, Edit Source, Purge, View History and Watch Icons will be circular buttons in the bottom right [05:48:50] The main font will be Non Bureau, a free font I got from Béhance and the secondary font will be Nyght Serif (just like Wikipedia) [06:02:47] wait a second [06:03:04] should i nuke my bootleg forum solution too? [06:03:33] what i did w/ custom namespaces and dt [06:18:25] Oversight requests should be emailed to stewards@miraheze.org [06:18:45] Please do consider hiding the revisions to admin level in the mean time [06:34:50] Is there a way to create a redirect page to other wikis in Miraheze (or external links in general) [06:37:31] there are interwiki prefixes but i never tried to use them as redirects :ThinkerMH: [07:01:12] oh they do work [07:01:15] thanks [07:26:24] So I filed a request to have my wiki reset to a save that i provided like almost 2 days ago now? I understand theres probably a lot more pressing stuff for miraheze staff and all but I was just wondering how much longer I'd have to wait. I dont wanna come off as impatient, but I was just wondering cause it does seem to be taking longer then I had hoped [07:30:19] It'll be done when it gets done [07:30:32] We're all volunteers and it heavily depends on availability [08:36:46] 2 days is on the pretty low end still, it can take a good bit [10:01:21] Is it possible to modify the skin for a certain wiki using JS? [10:17:33] In theory you could do it, but to achieve something like your previous piece of the developer's nightmare, will requires extensive works on that- [10:31:40] fun fact: I originally built Cosmos basically exactly how it actually looks today as a JS over timeless lol [10:32:21] [1/3] JavaScript and jQuery are tools that you can use in MediaWiki. jQuery is technically a tool that is used within JavaScript, and it makes a lot of things easier to do than if you were to use only JS. [10:32:21] [2/3] https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/dom-manipulation-in-javascript/ [10:32:21] [3/3] https://www.w3schools.com/jquery/jquery_dom_add.asp [10:33:11] But yes, Pisces is right in that what you're trying to do is a huge amount of work for a dev to do, so it might be difficult to find a volunteer [10:33:34] Indeed [10:34:40] i hate it when i accidentally make skins smh [10:51:08] [1/3] echoing pisces [10:51:09] [2/3] in general it is not advised to use js too much [10:51:09] [3/3] wiki skin modification isn't about sculpting it into completely different thing [10:51:28] atp just make your own skin [10:51:57] you gotta think/build from basic skin you have choosen, not the other way around [10:52:27] not the first time normal web devs are stumbled when it comes to managing a wiki [10:53:54] do i even want to know what the high end is? [11:02:18] ...but then I'd have to learn php [11:03:17] much better than JS lmao [11:04:32] Ok but as someone who was forced to use es5 so I can test my script on local MW1.39 I might actually believe this [11:07:49] Not necessarily [11:08:38] MediaWiki supports Mustache for a while now, such that its possible to make a skin entirely out of Mustache (assuming you don’t need to fetch your own data from anywhere and can survive with just what is provided by SkinMustache::class) [11:10:35] Does styling works with Lua? [11:11:49] All Lua does is create the HTML elements that are styled either by your CSS stylesheets or by inline CSS styles [11:12:08] In other words, not in the way you're thinking of [11:13:19] Lua is primarily for wiki templates, to be used in editable content area of a wiki page [11:13:32] Lua also only creates elements in the boundaries of `.mw-parser-output`, so it can't change anything that's part of the wiki layout (e.g. navbar, sidebar, footer) [11:38:10] Does Miraheze support Semantic MediaWiki? [11:47:26] Yes [11:55:24] Yes [11:55:34] [[SR/RC]] [11:55:35] [12:13:25] [1/3] Thankfully the overlords answered our prayers and were back on search results [12:13:25] [2/3] Thanks again for the help 🙏 [12:13:25] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399364118108049478/IMG_1896.png?ex=6888bae4&is=68876964&hm=f5fcd97b46d18e89e2b407aab1139b033f99f7e4ff9aa40967a66bfa7a12b667& [12:13:37] Our main page hasn’t been indexed just yet but I’m not too worried [12:13:53] I changed the name of it so it’s expectes [13:21:44] anyone knows ho to create a bot that redirects mobile users to another page [13:37:45] Not as an intended MediaWiki way. So you would have to use something like jQuery to do that [13:48:25] [1/2] The wiki mockup updated: [13:48:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399388023375794186/WikiMockupv4.0.png?ex=6888d128&is=68877fa8&hm=8bbc59ec3788476a67505966da2eab7022761aa21536b968b6c79b2072a3a26d& [13:49:06] The Switch button in the top right switches from Read and Discuss [13:50:25] But damn, the built-in menu in the Citizen Skin is better [13:54:15] I don't know what to put at the third row, so I added links and socials [13:56:33] Please note that this is not final and is subject to change [14:00:03] That is relaly pretty [14:03:41] For instance, the menu will be in a glassmorphic pop-up menu due to the Citizen Skin already being built-in with it [14:04:09] And suggestions for the third row (below AoTD and News)? [14:04:45] Expanded to 4096x2048 prior to my screen resolution [14:06:05] Also, Categories and Chapters will be in the article mockup [16:02:06] Hey, so I can kick this off, but I don't think it's going to do what you want it to do... [16:02:24] Import from XML doesn't overwrite the most recent version of a page if there's more recent edits. [16:02:51] It just imports the versions stored in the XML, the most recent version of a page date-wise still takes precedence [16:07:44] Do we know where the request was filed? [16:08:43] Yeah, Special:RequestImportQueue/1246 [16:20:24] Ye that won't work [16:20:51] Best way would probably to be recover from a db backup but they would be 2 weeks old [16:21:03] I think [16:26:25] Anyway, import queue cleared [16:34:02] [1/3] i can't remove the reference thing >:v so annoying [16:34:03] [2/3] it's not in the source code anymore yet it's visually there 😭 [16:34:03] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399429707660923050/IMG_1937.png?ex=6888f7fa&is=6887a67a&hm=66158255ab5147147d4b542e92cbbd2757bf04b586c00553507be18c49d3eb82& [16:37:20] you mean you removed the `` tag? [16:37:36] Hi ! [16:37:40] that isn't enough, you have to remove the `` that created the reference [16:38:46] howdy :HatTip: [16:39:53] welcome to wikis land [16:41:26] yeah... i swore i removed all mentions of it in the page, and yet [16:41:33] ohh [16:41:38] let me try to find it [16:48:51] The Forsaken wiki [16:55:47] this tells me nothing [16:56:49] i think he meant it as an example [16:56:56] https://forsaken.wiki [16:59:52] thanks! i found it [17:00:28] [1/4] now... [17:00:28] [2/4] why in the world is the caption not showing even though everything looks right? 😭 [17:00:29] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399436358971555911/Screenshot_2025-07-29-00-59-33-682_com.vivaldi.browser.jpg?ex=6888fe2c&is=6887acac&hm=5edc521a4b36b32da2a74adbd957bb62a381b554be6d7b1145103b8347aba270& [17:00:29] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399436359218892861/Screenshot_2025-07-29-00-59-17-741_com.vivaldi.browser.jpg?ex=6888fe2c&is=6887acac&hm=87fc644ff881e3eb00f1c0f2b3adc43590ec63cac1dd5ee5064315e273db6503& [17:00:43] miraheze never ceases to amaze me with hidden issues 👀 /s [17:01:02] (the group section also disappears from the infobox) [17:01:10] (although the template itself has everything) [17:06:33] whatever, i wasn't worth of ping [17:12:24] it might be because you're using more than one image in the gallery tag that activates the tabs ("Official Art" and "Comics") [17:12:39] its not a miraheze specific issue, and i dont know if there's a workaround for it [17:15:22] [1/2] hmm, strange [17:15:22] [2/2] there's originally supposed to be two in the first place, and the template page's contents is all working well [17:15:30] 😭 [17:21:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestSSL hey does miraheze still do these? [17:22:20] I got an email few months ago that they cancelled custom domains [17:23:09] tl;dr we no longer do hosted DNS custom domains [17:23:29] we still do them another way tho, see [[Custom domains]] [17:23:30] [17:25:22] As @pskyechology said, we no longer host DNS. We still do custom domains if you manage your own DNS. [17:25:30] I probably sent you a few of them emails [17:30:25] You can't kill GOD. [17:38:23] Hey, sorry to crash in unannounced, but you can call me Gene. I'm known on Miraheze as "NoneOfYourBusiness." I'm here for research, and to clear up some misunderstandings. [17:39:06] welcome [17:50:21] [1/2] What does this mean? [17:50:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399448911831105546/Screenshot_20250728-144951.png?ex=688909dd&is=6887b85d&hm=2db577f06b888c136692615b764ec9bb29f8dd1c10dca133127a63a437683f90& [17:52:04] did you recently import an XML dump to your wiki? [17:52:17] Yes [17:52:22] Yesterday [17:52:28] well, that's what it is [17:52:58] Oh, i thought it was to meant to show mh:blockbears2reincarnation>UserName though. [17:53:08] it does only show that [17:53:32] MediaWiki default is the user that creates the default main page, it is from your wiki [17:55:07] No I know Mediawiki default [17:55:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399450230872608808/1399448912065990747remix-1753725332111.png?ex=68890b17&is=6887b997&hm=409102b4eee8ff9608fa26184a48eaa0fe78005799c6f1f6cb06b2c7a9906a35& [17:55:44] It's this [17:56:08] that's just a regular imported edit [17:56:18] Oh, ok [17:56:21] just like the one below it [17:56:23] Thank you [17:58:02] np [19:16:27] Hey skye, can I still contact you to opt-in my wiki to media wiki 1.44 for beta testing [19:16:40] yeah, what's your wiki? [19:17:01] https://arsenalrobloxwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:22:38] I wonder what changed [20:23:22] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/REL1_44/RELEASE-NOTES-1.44 [20:30:06] I totally u understood this :EpicFaceMH: [21:16:22] Hey guys [21:16:39] What's the best place where I can send feedback about the platform [21:20:28] [1/2] If a user on the wiki gets banned on server directly related to said wiki, for something like say, harassment of other users (just an example), is it allowed to also block them from editing the wiki? [21:20:28] [2/2] What about if it's clearly outlined in the wiki policy that being banned in the Discord will result in a block from editing the wiki? [21:24:53] well, if local wiki policy considers behaviour in discord, then ofc local block is real and true [21:25:06] it won't warrant global lock tho [21:25:41] what kind of feedback [21:26:05] That makes sense. I would assume we can't apply global blocks anyway, that sounds like miraheze staff levels :LUL: [21:26:26] hi [21:26:32] i need some help [21:26:37] with? [21:29:21] [1/2] some images wont load for some reason [21:29:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399504026277515406/Screenshot_2025_0729_002855.jpg?ex=68893d31&is=6887ebb1&hm=a54160f8fd7fe75808b000bcd123aa001c2f67828fb20c05f411f7b12150a4fb& [21:29:52] red links usually mean those images don't exist on your wiki [21:29:57] I know [21:30:01] But they do exist on our wiki [21:30:06] i checked the file list [21:30:09] Even updated some of the files [21:30:14] nothing changed [21:30:19] can you link [21:30:28] this didnt occur until one of our admins made the wiki private vtw [21:30:30] btw [21:30:40] https://aceistan.miraheze.org [21:31:05] That's expected behavior if viewing a private wiki while logged out [21:31:14] im signed in [21:31:17] And im an admin there [21:31:23] If you're logged in though, there might be swift container troubles? [21:31:48] Probably worth a [[phorge]] ticket, in that case. [21:31:49] [21:32:26] heres the thing [21:32:32] an admin made the wiki private [21:32:36] Then the owner made it public [21:32:47] Now some files arent loading despite being in the wiki [21:32:52] yeah that probably messed with it a bit [21:33:00] will check in a moment [21:33:02] is there a solution? [21:34:03] [1/2] heres a part of the logs when it occured btw [21:34:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399505206751920230/Screenshot_2025_0729_003336.jpg?ex=68893e4a&is=6887ecca&hm=c91d024103830b17498acda7da23b9543eeeb09e843bbe795310d9a9bebe2524& [21:51:29] Phorge ticket, as mentioned, is the best way to make sure this gets sorted [21:54:23] whats a phorge ticket? [21:55:24] [[phorge]] [21:55:25] [21:55:44] It's a ticket for our technology team to investigate issues on wikis [21:56:10] i see [21:56:30] Without it, this probably won't get solved as this chat moves pretty fast and tech folks are around the world [21:56:52] what can i do exactly [21:57:29] Follow the instructions on the page I linked. [21:59:09] @paladox can you take a look? [21:59:40] Lol my ip is globally blocked for being a vpn [21:59:42] Makes sense [22:00:18] also just a note [22:00:29] do i have to be beaurocrat in order to do this [22:00:46] no, anyone can report issues [22:01:33] being a bureaucrat is only relevant if you're requesting config changes, imports or SSL stuff [22:01:56] i'm not sure what the problem is. [22:03:30] they are deleted [22:03:53] this isn't a swift issue. Swift issue would be showing the missing thumbnail image and you'd see console errors about 404s. [22:04:14] well either deleted or they were never uploaded to begin with [22:04:39] https://aceistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete [22:04:42] shows a deletion [22:05:22] https://static.wikitide.net/aceistanwiki/e/ec/Acepedia.svg [22:05:23] ? [22:05:45] They are uploaded [22:05:47] it claims original file is missing [22:05:56] [1/2] as seen here [22:05:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399513232573464747/image.png?ex=688945c4&is=6887f444&hm=1e14daf3cf1cdeba632e8d7badf4ecb9ea42f1ff32b572a9ec5f02a7f31ff4a3& [22:06:08] hm [22:06:36] Why is this? [22:06:53] https://aceistan.miraheze.org/wiki/File:WikiFavicon.svg exists [22:06:54] [22:06:55] [22:06:56] [22:07:03] you gave mediawiki dementia [22:07:50] [1/2] ayo, i need nitro to delete this message [22:07:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399513709742657596/Screenshot_20250729-080730.png?ex=68894636&is=6887f4b6&hm=91aa2ad212e69b054c4957f32077ca6d691b3388937ae41574423f8d2f5769a6& [22:08:34] \🗑️ [22:08:42] OHHHHHH [22:08:43] hmm it's saying upload original file [22:08:53] also when i open the editor the images load perfectly fine [22:09:07] Did the container somehow get disassociated with the wiki? [22:09:21] can you delete and undelete it to see if that fixes it [22:09:29] just this https://aceistan.miraheze.org/wiki/File:WikiFavicon.svg [22:09:42] [1/2] i dont know all i know is this is what occured in th logs [22:09:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399514177185517638/Screenshot_2025_0729_003336.jpg?ex=688946a5&is=6887f525&hm=16ee891e8549ac1258ff9b966efe187ea75f7591889e80822422daa11abab1c0& [22:10:00] so silly how it forgot the original file but still does previews fine [22:10:10] it forgors when wikitexting [22:10:15] but rembers when viewing page [22:10:19] yes [22:10:39] The imagelinks table might need rebuilding [22:10:46] it did not fix it [22:11:31] [1/2] also this doesnt apply to all files [22:11:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399514636444893204/Screenshot_2025_0729_011110.jpg?ex=68894713&is=6887f593&hm=0e9facca4ca1a132b0e451e6a4cc16c704c6f00467962b98417d0f82899dab00& [22:12:24] i've run rebuildImages.php, didn't fix it. [22:14:01] @kingplaystation is the owner of this wiki by the way [22:14:46] are you a sysop on the wiki [22:15:24] no [22:15:27] Im an administrator [22:15:36] that is exactly what a sysop is btw [22:15:43] do this pls https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1399514094133968946 [22:15:57] ok [22:16:34] (just noticed that paladox himself also did that) [22:17:47] i deleted it then undeleted(under same file name) didn't work [22:17:51] i guess you can just download the image and do a re-upload [22:18:09] yeh https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1399514450356076675 [22:18:13] i did [22:18:53] you downloaded it and re-uploaded it using the link it gave to upload? [22:38:36] Ah damn [22:38:43] Well thanks for clearing it anyway I appreciate it [23:46:01] [1/6] So what does CirrusSearch do exactly because I feel like ever since I got it added to my wiki, the search function has kind of just been cooked. [23:46:02] [2/6] stuff doesnt show up in the search bar unless i type in the exact name, and when i try to use the manual search, stuff often doesnt search at all with this error message. stuff doesnt search but says i have a page with that name if i manually search exact page name [23:46:02] [3/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399538418069016586/image.png?ex=68895d39&is=68880bb9&hm=fa773d6715af5f73704fd0493e98e586e520ca6c03b32de24d26338e6782dad9& [23:46:02] [4/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399538418349899776/image.png?ex=68895d39&is=68880bb9&hm=50e9119586ed6e335a46f2df5d86403f5aeb68d250fd874c4010639b17a58f90& [23:46:03] [5/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399538418656088085/image.png?ex=68895d39&is=68880bb9&hm=227e5372188fbbb0780d4113015829a917d0ad07b217ae3d0b474f2fe9821f3b& [23:46:03] [6/6] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1399538419025313872/image.png?ex=68895d39&is=68880bb9&hm=a8bbb7f63a11e260f94c2b0d1bb6e0700964f62e34973719138bbff8b1737de7& [23:53:15] yeah it's broken, I have deployed the cutest security reviewer [23:53:50] afterglou: now fixed [23:56:17] okay thank you [23:56:19] much appreciated