[00:02:48] <.guardianx.> [1/2] @abaddriverlol [00:02:48] <.guardianx.> [2/2] thank you so much, was it something I did on my side that caused the issue? [00:05:20] no, it was an issue with the extension [00:05:30] if you were able to cause errors like this with invalid input or something else, it would still be a bug that would need to be fixed [00:06:03] <.guardianx.> Awesome, thanks again! [00:23:39] You know what gets weirder (idk if they’ve removed em since), but back when i was tech, I would create fake dbs so that people couldnt accidentally create wikis with mw131.miraheze or whatever, so actually sometimes you could be touching an empty db (if they kept en) [00:48:06] Hi 👋 [00:52:42] howdy :HatTip: [01:08:27] [1/8] hi friends, someone pointed out an issue with MW's base search for us: [01:08:27] [2/8] `ban` matches to the article `Ban Hammer` [01:08:28] [3/8] but `oof-y` does not match to the article `OOF-Y GROOVES` [01:08:28] [4/8] all song articles on this wiki are written in all caps as that is how they are officially styled, and as a result they cannot be brought up in the search bar without also writing in caps [01:08:28] [5/8] the question is: i keep being suggested to use CirrusSearch. does anyone know if CS would improve this behaviour? [01:08:28] [6/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401371101468295299/image.png?ex=6890080a&is=688eb68a&hm=8cf9d4dd773a4ba8d0e0c89d1148066ea78a9385c16f60539b646cd28588a3a7& [01:08:29] [7/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401371101765963796/image.png?ex=6890080a&is=688eb68a&hm=8e4220db64eac9f18a2009c4f8f399184a3b380ed06f3aa5af71e209bcdfd92b& [01:08:29] [8/8] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401371101992321084/image.png?ex=6890080a&is=688eb68a&hm=78e0479a105b697a540930675ed0891861e3f90bb253f950127cbea6fbec2349& [01:08:57] there are 75 articles named this way (in all caps) and are a big part of the game + wiki so to find out they arent easily searchable is like d'oh [02:23:28] hi, this is pinging me again https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/743072681057845378/1401389073381331116 [02:24:28] i blocked the relay now but it's probably affecting more people than just me [02:26:26] oop [02:26:31] uuuuuuuh [02:26:45] @cosmicalpha do you think we could make that ping thing a setting? [02:29:42] If I somehow have time to get Visual Studio up and running on my PC again lol (I'll try soon) but there has been no changes to it recently wonder why it randomly started again lol [02:30:27] NO MORE MOBILE CA CODING???? [02:30:39] Can't do that from mobile lol [02:31:07] If I do start working on it again I can upgrade it to components v2 also lol [02:31:18] [1/2] Does anyone know if I can resize the Source Editor window? [02:31:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401391952385020086/image.png?ex=68901b76&is=688ec9f6&hm=f1fb77d910d5e9b62cd1ccc4b4433673c2e46a6aef9157e1d5238dee4469edb0& [02:31:25] Vertically [02:31:32] also props on not picking 'wiki' for your guild tag [02:33:44] before it came out we really really really wanted a pencil icon + wiki [02:33:50] and it was a bit tragic that pencil isnt an option [02:33:54] yeah [02:34:00] oops i mean edit, not wiki [02:34:04] they're adding more [02:34:07] wikipedia already had wiki so we didnt want wiki [02:34:09] oooh really [02:34:12] nice i hope we get pencil [02:34:13] aaaaa would be so cool [02:34:20] that cost more [02:34:27] [1/2] ✏️ EDIT [02:34:28] [2/2] that was the original plan for the tag [02:34:59] 😭 pencil where [02:35:14] hexagon... [02:35:21] FANDOM took it soo [02:35:39] also river [02:35:42] hi [02:35:42] while you're here [02:35:50] uhoh [02:35:52] mind if i ask about a wiki gg extension [02:35:55] yeah [02:36:00] although alex is maybe a better person to ask [02:36:03] but i can try [02:36:09] prob lol since they made it [02:37:07] we got a Phorge task open asking partially about the porting tools in DataMaps? lemme get it [02:37:14] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14066#282142 [02:37:17] oh [02:37:26] i couldnt find docs for it on mw.org [02:37:29] datamaps rewrite has been the 2nd highest prio thing for like 2 years now [02:37:39] we dont have full docs because that time would rather be spent rewriting it [02:37:44] and format is gonna change [02:37:46] total rewrite? [02:37:55] not total but pretty substantial [02:38:00] the current version was intended as an ark-only extension [02:38:20] asking since idk if we need to do a security rereview [02:38:22] and it's really hard to fill feature requests in current architecture [02:38:24] oh [02:38:31] after we relaunch it yeah probably [02:38:39] how bad lol [02:38:51] bad enough that we are planning a rewrite [02:38:53] 😆 [02:38:56] fair [02:39:14] do you know if the current setting would be useful for this case? [02:39:26] no i have no idea thats def an alex question [02:39:28] lemme link u the channel [02:39:37] <#1022165082148450333> ask here [02:39:46] [1/2] :sobbing: [02:39:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401394084802986044/image.png?ex=68901d72&is=688ecbf2&hm=9c921570b8ca3744972f9bed45e22f2c83e40e754b6a53ce8c49d2cd1b7891ba& [02:39:53] welp [02:39:54] oh i thought you were there [02:39:55] discord.gg/wikigg [02:40:01] womp womp [02:40:04] omg [02:40:05] i used to be [02:40:06] a while ago [02:40:08] i got automodded [02:40:09] i left i think [02:40:12] rTnST57tuW [02:40:15] actually yeah i forgot [02:40:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401394259898273967/2025-08-02_21-40-26.png?ex=68901d9c&is=688ecc1c&hm=1bb8f88648fb90ba1cab8fe948f10b95ff81bd0d49d394c14367fa1e3017040c& [02:40:29] thats my bad i used my mod powers to bypass by accident [02:40:32] take that automod [02:40:38] #server-invites is exempt [02:41:19] wiki.gg, a Miraheze wiki? 👀 [02:41:25] ty lol [02:41:36] clearly we're a wikipedia wiki, isnt that the software we use [02:41:41] by that logic we own wikipedia and maintain mediawiki as a pet project [02:42:29] Well, they're affiliated, so it's compliant with the topic \:P [02:42:47] >for other wiki related invites ask a moderator [02:42:48] uuuh [02:42:52] :wikipetan: [02:42:58] wiki friends [02:43:17] [1/2] this is our version lol [02:43:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401394968303505619/2025-08-02_21-43-10.png?ex=68901e45&is=688eccc5&hm=8b7a19fb107629cd8639ca3a95c432f11e647fd4d3bc23ae3031b0e9cbc97afd& [02:43:25] does that happen to you too or just us [02:43:58] never actuallu [02:44:04] we have plenty of wikipedia imports [02:44:08] I've seen our server used more as general MediaWiki support rather than confused for the Wikipedia server [02:44:16] so much so we have [[wikipedia]] [02:44:16]

[02:44:24] maybe the name? [02:44:25] we get general mediawiki occasionally but usually it's "thinks we're wikipedia" [02:44:27] [1/2] hey it remembers [02:44:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401395263809261648/Screenshot_20250802_224324.png?ex=68901e8b&is=688ecd0b&hm=976376348a9af1d76aefc10ce24bf05aa169e08e526a8c7c2612009cf8853f5c& [02:44:56] the main thing i remember is pcj announcing every new wiki on the site [02:45:05] thats a bot now [02:45:10] since like 10 months ago [02:45:11] lmao [02:45:32] it's pretty helpful to use that feed to answer "what should my wiki look like when i launch" [02:45:45] actually wonder [02:45:52] how many of wiki.gg wikis are active [02:46:02] i have no idea [02:46:05] i know you guys have a much more involved process in applications then us [02:46:17] yeah we only take about 10% of applications [02:46:35] every single wiki had some activity cos otherwise we wouldve canceled it (or it was made in early 2023) [02:46:54] i dont think we have stats on approval/decline ratio [02:46:56] but we dont atm have an inactive wiki policy [02:46:58] lemme see [02:47:10] so we have a lot of inactive wikis, some "content complete" and some abandoned [02:47:18] i need to finish a PR for our policy lol [02:47:27] we had an amendment made like a year ago or more [02:47:33] then i started to make a PR to add it [02:47:35] and uh [02:47:40] https://github.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/pull/605 [02:47:48] whoops... [02:47:53] ADHD go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [02:48:02] lmao thats really a year ago [02:48:16] almost lol [02:48:23] the policy was earlier [02:48:29] it should be mostly done [02:48:36] we want to eventually have an inactive wiki closure policy but it's not particularly high importance since by definition none of those wikis is a drain on resources really [02:48:40] but CI is broken with smt or other and i dont know how to make tests [02:48:47] cos it would be inactive + empty [02:48:52] we dont care about inactive [02:48:58] yeah [02:49:07] for us its also like [02:49:10] not a big deal [02:49:19] would prob make reviewing flagged wikis easier [02:54:55] [1/2] I believe the reason for this is because pages have to start with an uppercase letter, so any search that starts with a lowercase letter is treated as if it started with an uppercase letter instead. [02:54:55] [2/2] My understanding is that CirrusSearch is case-insensitive, which would solve your issue (along with having various other search improvements) [02:55:27] fasciniating names some of these https://discord.com/channels/951501892553424917/953079302889541692/1396914169457934416 [02:55:28] i mean [02:55:32] us too [02:55:38] just easier to see in this format [02:57:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401398638248202310/Screenshot_20250802_225738.png?ex=689021b0&is=688ed030&hm=e00c38cbe45b111bff64a2a495dcc6dcd2e4b7b9c5a64f138ec8e83c2ed49be8& [02:58:02] wiki people are interesting [03:05:50] I did a sample a while back and the approval rate was around 60%? [03:06:33] huh [03:06:36] I just fixed CI to pass again in the main branch so you can try and rebase yours. [03:07:06] neat [03:07:32] on cli right? cant do from web [03:10:18] [1/2] I think I just opened a few random pages and came up with that number. A sample size of a few hundred is sufficient I suppose. [03:10:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401401765231984680/image.png?ex=68902499&is=688ed319&hm=0b7f955616191b34c500d923de2ff7f23ff53fb8f3c5249a4a3983d859671323& [03:11:29] i wonder if i could bribe CA for a database dump [03:12:11] ive worked on data viz from database exports of requests before [03:12:14] i made a chart [03:15:46] I'm waiting for 1.44 and the new charts extension so that I can replace this Lua graphing module. The idea to make charts without any js is cool but too troublesome. [03:16:14] i made one with matplotlibs [03:17:35] . [03:19:41] Ah yeah I think I have a similar script sitting somewhere. Updating an image timely would be harder, though, unless I can have a bot automatically graph data every week and reupload the resulting image. [03:21:00] The best part of https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/number_of_wikis is that it gets updated automatically on a daily basis because the bot updating the json data page is sufficient in triggering an update for everything on the statistics page. [03:46:27] I wish we could remove them [03:46:54] what [03:47:42] Like, remove our accounts from wikis [03:47:53] Cause I have too many of them connected in my account [03:48:42] how many [03:54:27] I forgor [04:34:52] Gonna say... I've got like 2.5k attached to mine [04:35:06] it's a bug w/ codemirror iirc, can be fixed w/ CSS, someone drop the code, i can't check rn [04:42:35] die inside every time i see someone calls fandom "a wikipedia" [04:46:49] people do that to us too [04:46:54] presumaby GG too [04:48:21] Yeah it's common for every wiki site. [04:48:28] but I dislike fandom so it hurts even more [04:51:05] People basically don't understand, that wikipedia is a specific website, not a concept of a type of website [04:51:31] Just realized it only happens when I have syntax highlighting turned on, so it's not much an issue [04:52:17] Although it would be nice to be able to turn it on lol [04:52:35] yeah syntax highlight is from codemirror but i personally value highlight toouch lok [04:53:00] my wiki has a code but it's not perfect, so i was hoping someone else share better solution [04:54:58] The Mirahezepedia [04:55:03] [1/7] This is what I use to fix it, sets it to a decent default height, and allows it to be resized. And yeah editing without syntax highlight... is just pure torture imo [04:55:04] [2/7] ```css [04:55:04] [3/7] .CodeMirror { [04:55:04] [4/7] height: 60vh; [04:55:05] [5/7] resize: vertical; [04:55:05] [6/7] } [04:55:05] [7/7] ``` [04:55:21] Wasnt there a Miraheze wiki in fandom [04:55:31] And I assume I use something like Tampermonkey to apply this? [04:55:49] Sorry I'm a wiki noob [04:56:04] you can apply personal css and js on wiki [04:56:21]