[00:01:40] [1/2] Don’t mind the broken files but this is cool [00:01:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403891011746271344/IMG_2862.jpg?ex=689932e4&is=6897e164&hm=f4dfe4c858b17b62baf97d8f968c551626dd09b6663d1d7550b3434a7299fd2c& [00:01:45] riiiiight [00:02:13] only thing I’m disappointed about is that whenever I open one in a row the others open too (but empty) but it’s fine [01:22:04] huh https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Harej_(Administrator) [01:30:53] Hey, is there a copy of the CSS used for wikis? [01:31:14] I want to have it so I can make my own and test it [01:32:09] ...I guess not, it's something else [01:32:25] you can look up custom CSS pages on any wiki that got one [01:33:23] [1/2] usually at MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Skinnamehere.css [01:33:23] [2/2] however w/o knowing the basics you might really confuse yourself and ness up the code [01:33:41] also when taking the code you should credit the source wiki [01:33:51] I just want to test the CSS locally [01:34:02] I will, but I wanted to use monobook [01:34:17] you can use personal CSS for quick testing [01:34:25] OK [01:34:28] User:Username/common.css [01:34:47] unfortunately I don't know any wiki that decided to modify Monobook [01:46:26] Oh God [01:46:35] I shouldn't have gone down this rabbit hole [01:46:42] It looks extremely complicated [01:47:25] CSS? [01:47:31] Yes [01:47:39] I looked it up [01:47:50] I keep getting stuff about TemplateStyles and instructions that don't work [01:48:31] Unrelated but I forget, do I need to go through a process to add an intertwiki to another wiki? [01:48:33] And Mustashe [01:52:03] no? [01:52:20] you may need to give yourself the interwiki permission tho [01:52:35] it wasn't included by default for some period [01:56:57] Yeah for awhile it was restricted to a global group depending on wiki was made not have it assigned by default [01:59:16] damn gatekeeping the cool stuff that 99% will never use [02:03:10] I remember filing a request here on Discord for an interwiki prefix [02:17:11] That's what I thought, was unaware it changed. [02:38:09] Anyone have experience getting wikibase set up? [03:17:26] [1/6] @soul_fabric There's [03:17:26] [2/6] https://ftlmultiverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [03:17:27] [3/6] and [03:17:27] [4/6] https://trollpasta.com/wiki/Trollpasta_Wiki [03:17:27] [5/6] Both use monobook. [03:17:28] [6/6] If anyone knows more, feel free to add them to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_customise_the_look_of_my_wiki [03:22:06] [1/2] Opinions 🕺🕺 personally I love it [03:22:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403941448981811331/IMG_2891.png?ex=689961dd&is=6898105d&hm=3e791cdf77d96879010c1ddc0552c9753d784b607868c963aa46497e616f90f0& [03:22:51] Ah wait it’s low quality [03:23:00] [1/2] https://blockstarplanet.miraheze.org/wiki/Building_Tools this should be better [03:23:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403941676329865286/IMG_2893.jpg?ex=68996213&is=68981093&hm=ed61efc195e7057ed6f391ab7434b30be64b55f8f6e9954fecc84961eee23b06& [03:23:50] (give the wiki a visit, maybe it’ll help beating the Fandom one…) [03:31:15] [1/2] NOOOO WAAAAAAAY MY WIKI IS SOMEWHAT SHOWING UP WITHOUT THE WORD MIRAHEZE [03:31:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403943756260048966/IMG_2897.png?ex=68996403&is=68981283&hm=1f9c4cbaa412487bcbaf9c4aacd023c42e37e7a0c52668f14fb7089a0e96f81b& [03:32:04] but not yet whenever I search “BlockStarPlanet wiki” [03:43:34] you didn't have to ping me tho ... [03:56:51] Gotcha. I thought you might be interested in knowing more about monobook wikis. [05:13:06] [1/3] uh huh what [05:13:06] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403969385525284935/Screenshot_20250810-081058.jpg?ex=68997be1&is=68982a61&hm=278ff158a78211e4799c8af507cd75ac5be53ecdd3fd67ee975fbba2467eb24c& [05:13:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403969385760162013/Screenshot_20250810-081100.jpg?ex=68997be2&is=68982a62&hm=e1810715d398cac50a0326923f6353ca21e19c5896bffd0b07c14d08fb054dee& [05:13:25] nvm, now it is ok [05:15:06] This might be of interest to you if you'd rather import the files on your end than wait for a tech member to get to your request: https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Mass_Copy_Upload [05:32:11] there are three wiki hosts under the same wiki on search: miraheze, fandom and wiki gg [05:33:19] bear in mind, for more precise results check in incognito mode; google might pick results ypu prefer based on search history or cookies or whatever [05:34:05] also fun fact chrome spies on what links users click and it contributes to seo [06:07:37] Hello chat [06:08:03] Where do I go to get help with wiki related stuff? [06:13:11] #support [06:18:30] Made it [06:51:12] [1/3] Hmmm CSP is going to be a big problem for js solutions, though in terms of user-friendliness nothing will beat javascript. [06:51:13] [2/3] I wrote a [python solution](https://github.com/lihaohong6/Miraheze/blob/master/importing/image_importer.py) a while back and have improved it in the past imports. The main selling point is that it handles a few errors automatically (e.g. redirect duplicate files, automatically invoke `imagemagick` to handle MIME type mismatches, etc.). You may want to try i [06:51:13] [3/3] mplement some of these too. [07:27:04] [1/2] The setup I had is admittedly "just a UI wrapper" that offloads the downloading part onto the MH server (in fact the client side doesn't download the files at all, all it does is send an 'upload' request with the static URL that it tells MW to download from). I definitely hadn't had the time to test it with various error scenarios like duplicate files or ty [07:27:05] [2/2] pe mismatch as you pointed out. [07:27:31] How can I import stylesheets again? [07:27:53] Like pretty sure you could split your CSS across multiple pages and then have them imported or smth like that. [07:28:36] if you keep everything on MediaWiki:Common.css it's easier to just copy over [07:28:42] I also admittedly gave up on the CSP part that'd have been a major blocker for the tool since it didn't make much sense for MH to open access to such big platforms like Fandom just so it'd have access to their APIs [07:29:02] Nowadays Skye is very active when it comes to xml/image imports, but if she ever becomes less available I think you will be more opportunities to test and improve your script. [07:29:05] But it's kinda an organizational nightmare [07:29:41] You can split them into gadgets by functionality. [07:29:54] TemplateStyles is good for unloading Common.css between templates and even individual pages, like Main Page [07:30:07] Oh yeah Gadgets [07:30:08] I love spliiting CSS by gadgets. Amazing shit [07:30:17] but things like font import still needs to be on Common [07:30:32] gadgets make more sense for JS [07:30:53] Splitting CSS by gadgets is prolly more performant than having to `@import` everytht [07:31:18] You can set CSS only gadgets [07:31:39] yeah, i don't see the point in using gadgets just for CSS, not to mention users have to enable them personally? [07:32:13] My experience has been that MW combines the various CSS-only gadgets that you have on your wiki into one stylesheet, so it gets loaded more efficiently [07:33:38] [1/4] ``` [07:33:38] [2/4] * css-gadget-stylesheet[ResourcrLoader|default|hidden|type=styles]my-stylesheet.css [07:33:39] [3/4] ``` [07:33:39] [4/4] will load the stylesheet for everybody without needing it to be enabled on Preferences [07:35:09] i see [07:35:32] but if user disabled scripts? [07:36:49] I'm pretty sure ResourceLoader loads my-stylesheet.css in my example as a CSS file, so it shouldn't affect if the user has all js disabled on their end [07:38:36] I really love loading CSS by gadgets in particular because you can choose the stylesheets to load based on skins and namespaces [07:49:57] I can't wait für mein wiki [07:53:00] my le wiki, le informed people??? [08:13:18] I know there's probably not many situations where an administrator would need the `(blockemail)` permission anymore, but it would have been great if Administrators still had the permission. https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1399059949262340207 [08:15:43] Idk, I guess I'm just tightfisted. [08:16:00] I hate losing access to things. [08:59:26] [1/2] no one but miraheze volunteers can use the email feature [08:59:27] [2/2] give me one good reason why you would need that permission [09:03:36] I'm not talking about using it. I'm talking about blocking access to it. But I guess you've made your point. [09:08:53] I guess I've always preferred retaining access to things, just in case there's a situation where access is needed. [09:21:42] that is principally where I'm at but short of a more radical answer up to simply ignoring that law, it is not an optional choice [09:22:51] a reasonable solution would be to encourage using it for business but then, if you can just open it up on that basis, it's no different in effect from having it open for essentially any purpose and sysop is still pretty close to general population and sees very limited use as far as I can tell in the feature's already limited use [09:24:01] I kinda misunderstood the blocking access, I'm of the mind you'd just be adding zero to zero [09:24:35] if we need to reach you by email it's probably gonna happen by any means necessary and if nobody else can do it then there it is. `blockemail` at this point is just permission clutter [10:01:49] So do you absolutely need to get sysop approval for every new language you want to add as a wikibase option? [10:03:28] Where has this been heard [10:05:31] ChatGPT [10:05:52] What was your prompt to it [10:06:17] https://xyproblem.info and also ChatGPT is an idiot [10:08:25] My installation of wikibase is only letting me enter english labels and not japanese ones. [10:08:57] Is it a Miraheze wiki? [10:09:08] Yes. Sloppy prompt. [10:09:27] What exactly are you trying to enter where [10:10:05] [1/2] https://evolutionism.miraheze.org/wiki/Item:Q1 [10:10:05] [2/2] I want to add a label in Japanese [10:13:06] It appears to allow me to create items with any language label https://evolutionism.miraheze.org/wiki/Item:Q5 but only edit english labels. [10:17:22] tried appending ?uselang=ja and then back to en? [10:19:12] It works. Is there a way to make it so it just always gives me the options for Japanese or any other commonly used languages? [10:19:20] ?uselang= [10:19:21] Wikidata does this with the babel userpage thing [10:19:35] Yeah but I don't want to do this every time. [10:19:46] unfortunately i believe thats the only way [11:05:00] What is the deal with my wiki right now 😭, everyone is getting logged out after clicking 2 buttons and initially I worked around this by giving them confirmed user now administrator doesnt even work [11:06:30] Please don't give users admin to work around login issues [11:09:11] Im not actually, just testing it with an alt eitherway though [11:18:42] [1/3] logout usually happens when user visits another Miraheze wiki he hasn't visited before [11:18:43] [2/3] is your wikis private or public? [11:18:43] [3/3] did updated url recently? [11:22:21] Its public and has not updated its url, nor do I think they've visited another wiki [11:24:47] i suggest to make [[phorge]] task, unless other tech team folks will give you solution/reason right now [11:24:53]

[11:25:16] Alright thank you, will do [11:25:50] you made soke changes in permissions settings previously tho? [11:26:08] user groups rights etc [11:27:34] If you give times they were logged out and usernames then we can look at the session logs [11:37:31] I did but they were just an attempt to revert them to the default settings to see if it changed anything at all [11:37:51] Sorry to be a waste of time but it seemed to have gone away completely so thats nice [12:52:41] [1/2] Are there any extensions that allow neat slideshows like the ones on Fandom? [12:52:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404085043235651646/image.png?ex=6899e798&is=68989618&hm=5c68d56d2e3c82dc76badaa1c7d3b9fc8a4c792cb257f0817088a500fbee769a& [12:54:23] I stuggle to read that text [12:55:15] [1/2] Because it's a terrible screenshot from my end [12:55:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404085690022494208/image.png?ex=6899e833&is=689896b3&hm=9558b2008ce445dd0910b15d5a34297fda437b4e9f55f22ee326a0d5d1601647& [12:55:57] That looks better. [12:56:30] Skibidi Toilet... [12:56:58] I only heard of it as a meme, but from your wiki server's desc, it is an youtube suris. Is it like a hunor suris?> [12:57:22] It started as a meme series, but has evolved to become more serious [12:57:30] it still has a somewhat goofy setting [12:57:38] Hm, 79 episodes is inpressitve [12:57:40] Mostly leans into sci-fi and action [12:57:43] fandom's slider is not available for other wiki, but there's a script/template solution, lemme find it [12:57:56] Do you like Game Thoery? [12:58:09] Yeah I watch them sometimes [12:58:16] I just wondered as it is a youtube suris that I used to watch [12:58:34] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Photo_Slider [13:00:33] Thanks! [13:06:02] Hey, that looks really nice [13:06:44] umm am I just supposed to paste it in a gadget or smth like that? [13:06:54] Or the Common.css + js pages? [13:07:39] no widgets here [13:08:58] [1/2] in Code section there's JS and CSS, although I'm not sure if it should be in common pages [13:08:59] [2/2] + copy template code [13:12:04] i haven't tried all that personally, i just never liked slider even back on fandom [13:14:01] How long did it take for create request to be approved? [13:17:55] if AI couldn't process it goes to human reviewer, usually up to 2 days [13:18:30] thank you🙂 [13:43:40] Yeah, for some reason they decided to move over fandom to wiki gg too [13:43:53] Idk the reason behind it but it’s quite stupid [13:44:00] It’s a 1:1 recreation of the fandom one [13:44:12] They didn’t even upgrade the main page [13:44:17] Not even a navigation or anything [13:51:19] [1/3] Also big difference, fandom does lack the most basic information [13:51:19] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404099798692532234/IMG_2919.png?ex=6899f556&is=6898a3d6&hm=26854d18dc027c2b75b80b10a71d20b764b96927d3b447724507b2f05f0e24c8& [13:51:19] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404099798990196776/IMG_2918.png?ex=6899f556&is=6898a3d6&hm=c6d9abd96d6cd994f2160ac268a284ebf94ccde6115625cff41124995c2520c0& [13:53:09] Also they made a seperate page for EACH DAMN ITEM ON FANDOM. [13:53:24] Including blocks, which is like 500 pages [13:53:34] And each of these pages have like 1 sentence of info [14:06:56] [1/2] Where on Special:Interwiki do I create interwiki links? Can't find it anywhere. These are my usergroups. [14:06:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404103729954951318/image.png?ex=6899f900&is=6898a780&hm=50b54fe9c42fb5aabb393b2de446c33ce60317c06b720edec5cfb06166ef77cd& [14:07:15] [1/2] Current request wiki queue: 3 days 7 hours (163 requests) [14:07:16] [2/2] We tend to review in the order received. You can check the queue to see where your request stands. [14:09:21] I couldn't wait and sent two requests, so if you have any similar requests, please reject them. [14:09:39] [1/2] you should add interwiki permission to bureau or admin, then Special:Interwiki will be editable [14:09:40] [2/2] for some reason it's not set by default [14:12:34] Where do I edit roll perms at? [14:16:18] nvm found it [14:16:55] Danke [14:17:08] [1/4] This is funny “will be finished soon” [14:17:08] [2/4] Last edit: December 2021 [14:17:09] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404106295807836243/IMG_2921.png?ex=6899fb63&is=6898a9e3&hm=430137d9da85bb7411dc8361aa3840bbbcfb7e41d730d7f1c2b4f9076e58dd9d& [14:17:09] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1404106296189255730/IMG_2923.png?ex=6899fb64&is=6898a9e4&hm=8037c892fc83c87cea04d8fbef1839052e02e25df67ba2956ac265693c066c8c& [14:17:41] That means a lot of crafting recipes of the game are just gonna be lost media I guess [14:24:44] Actually nvm I got the source code of the game I think I’ll be fine [14:37:12] what is one of the request numbers? [14:37:41] Where to see.. [14:40:03] It's at the end of the url: Special:RequestWikiQueue/ as a 5 digit number [14:40:58] 64038 [14:40:59] Here [14:41:49] My username is Gnu779 [14:42:11]