[01:03:08] lol I cannot feel dumb after I realise it's easier than I thought to import templates [01:06:51] https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-annoyed-st%C3%B6hn-oh-no-oh-nein-gif-24943313 [03:09:37] hey how do i request a wiki submission to be rereviewed [03:14:08] Editing the description reopens the request for consideration [03:16:17] ok perfect [04:07:22] hey sorry for asking but how long does it usually take for a rereview to be accepted? [04:12:46] Depend on the current backlog and stuff [04:13:11] But in an optimal situation, it would take 2-3 days [04:13:26] Even less [04:15:22] alr, tysm [05:42:18] What was the page for deleting namespaces that normally can't be deleted again? [05:43:29] I'm trying to delete all the namespaces related to extensions that have since been removed. Or namespaces no longer relevant to the current version of MediaWiki. [05:46:13] There was a way to bypass the restriction. But I forgot how to do it. [05:55:05] i think maintenance script reveals them [05:55:24] i remember randomly stumbling on leftover namespace pages [06:02:34] cleanupTitles iirc [06:48:11] I'm pretty sure users can delete them as well. [06:48:24] I just forgot precisely how to do it. [08:26:59] [1/2] hi, a user on our wiki tried to create a page but got blocked because it was too large. is there any way to bypass or turn this feature off? [08:26:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407642057396322435/image-3.png?ex=68a6d853&is=68a586d3&hm=275e9111522f158204cb192fbd88d904eae2cc4190f9ad7ff200f3646a2f01e8& [08:37:45] I don't think you can turn global abuse filters off. You could take a look at the edit in `Special:AbuseLog` to see if it's legit. If it is, grant this user the `confirmed user` user group, which should prevent them from tripping most abuse filters. [08:45:28] thx [09:44:37] Is there any way to tell if T&S received my email since there doesn't seem to be an auto-response [10:03:40] does Miraheze support custom fonts? [10:04:00] yes [10:04:30] we support wiki admins fully customizing their CSS so by extension we allow custom fonts [10:05:18] cool, got any idea where/how I import a custom font for use? [10:06:02] [Google Fonts](https://fonts.google.com/) is somewhat popular from what I know, as for how to import them gimme a sec [10:06:35] It's a font I made, so I just have the raw ttf file on my computer [10:07:01] oh, in that case you'd upload it to the wiki like a normal file then get the static.wikitide.net link to it [10:07:10] nice, thanks for the help [10:07:43] then I assume you know what CSS to change, you have to add it to [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] on your wiki [10:07:44] [10:11:15] [1/2] Yeah, that's no issue. Though it seems Mira doesn't support uploading ttf files? Do I need to package it in some way or convert the file to a different, supported one? [10:11:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407668294499958846/image.png?ex=68a6f0c2&is=68a59f42&hm=cfeab2414a81a7c778318b7227d874d74e608bd5fc071e2213e97df024258932& [10:11:34] Or is there a wiki extension I just forgot to enable [10:11:45] right, you have to add it as an allowed file type on Special:ManageWiki/settings [10:12:36] isn't woff/woff2 preferred for the web? [10:13:36] If it is I'll happily convert it [10:14:21] i just never tried uploading ttf but if setting works/allows [11:19:11] hey theres, I need to ask [11:19:21] How do you guys enable visual editor on yer wikis? [11:21:07] On your wiki's Special:ManageWiki/extensions, you must search and enable the VisualEditor extension [11:21:23] then what do we do after? [11:21:57] it's not showing the visual editor pop up [11:24:22] [1/2] Ah, in your user preferences you have to enable it [11:24:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407686695985352734/image.png?ex=68a701e5&is=68a5b065&hm=9f16f052d6251dc5dbdfa3027c756835566cb95f7c29a4a8e58ef030a06821d0& [11:24:34] I think it automatically enables it for new users [11:24:43] aah alrighty [11:27:32] [1/2] nope, had it opened already [11:27:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407687492177498254/image.png?ex=68a702a3&is=68a5b123&hm=ae130fd6725ab1cdd23c13c3073a775ca262a8a919b6d1d9680dc8dde288d56c& [11:28:19] I tested it on a different wiki and it works just fine [11:28:23] but not on my own wiki [11:29:10] oh wait, it works now somehow [11:29:19] I decided to turn it off then on again [11:29:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407687980164055141/image.png?ex=68a70318&is=68a5b198&hm=c4d8ad3b6f8c874e72b15b308b9cd804bd1b5545e07f97a2a17eb6432600b50e& [11:29:48] the button might not show up if you haven't purged the page [11:30:59] Aaah I see [11:32:22] By the way, wasn't there an option for ensuring the custom skin CSS was loaded in system pages? I mean user preferences pages, login/logout pages... [11:32:50] oh? Not sure bout that one [11:34:54] $wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages [11:36:06] Ah, I guess that's something a steward or Phorge issue then [11:48:07] We won’t set that to true [11:48:55] ^ [11:51:02] Even if user CSS is disabled and the MediaWiki:*.css pages are protected? [11:52:29] yes [11:53:25] Yes, because that variable controls Common.css et al inclusion as well [11:54:09] Ahhh I think I see the problem [12:20:51] how long does it usually take for SEO changes to come through? i wanted to alter the embed description of an article and it doesnt seem to have changed since the past 50 minutes or so [12:22:41] i believe the syntax is correct cuz the different one does show up in the seo properties when viewing `?action=info`, but yeah it just doesnt seem to be really taking effect and i dunno if i should wait more or if somethings up [12:26:19] For whatever reason CSS loaded through [[mw:Extension:ThemeToggle]] bypasses $wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictesPages. Not sure if that's intended behaviour. [12:26:20] [12:33:15] It is not; that will probably have to be disabled until its fixed [12:34:44] neat [12:43:55] man [12:44:15] but Cosmos does that too [12:55:00] not that I'm super familiar with how Cosmos works, but I thought that was because the styling was provided through the config file? [12:55:17] Does it? [12:55:54] i haven't checked in a while but it def did when i had a wiki on cosmos [13:13:15] anyone know where i can find `$wgGalleryOptions` [13:13:24] i cant find it in `Special:ManageWiki/settings` [13:16:22] where you got that from [13:17:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGalleryOptions [13:17:26] i was told, i can just change the default mode of all galleries on my wiki [13:17:41] and im starting to realise the person who told me this did not even read this [13:17:51] (me included until i realised) [13:21:17] if you can't find a setting in ManageWiki then you gotta request it via [[phorge]], and in this case you need to decide the exact settings you want, w/ size etc [13:21:18] [13:30:53] hm [13:30:54] okay [13:30:57] thanks mate [16:12:30] Intentionally, yes. Because Cosmos doesnt allow arbitrary CSS, just colors and when invalid colors are found (because it checks to change other stuff based on dark or light colors) it just doesnt load. Its all config based thats allowed there not arbitrary on-wiki CSS, and no JS. [16:13:12] Personal CSS file? [16:13:47] hmm? [16:15:37] are you really going to disable themetoggle when several wikis implemented it at last, or find the solution w/o disabling? [16:16:18] I’d rather we swiftly patch ourselves and try to get it merged upstream [16:17:00] I'm looking into it now. Depends on severity of the issue here. [16:17:46] all it hopefully needs is an if clause and a return [16:32:42] [1/2] In the future when you find issues like that, even if you arent sure whether it is or not, if it even seems likely to you, please don't post publicly, and instead create a task on phorge using the "Report Security Issue" form. It's best not to have discussions for something that could be a security vulnerability (even if it ends up not being in the end). Tha [16:32:42] [2/2] nks. [16:37:19] if you're not sure you can always reach out to us individually (we don't bite, I swear) [16:37:57] can't wait for the day when we can send stickers to responsible reporters [16:39:11] Tbh I thought the issue was alr semi-known but I'll keep it in mind if I ever find another security concern [16:40:56] Thank you! That's appreciated. It's fine this time, but just for future reference, if you are even remotely suspicious it could be a security concern do reach out private or create a security task on Phorge. [16:42:04] Its better to be wrong about one and report as such anyway. [16:48:28] is it ok if I yoink the footer from just the main page? Doing CSS for it and it might look nicer without the footer... Just asking cause it contains a bit of miraheze branding :eys [16:51:18] should be fine [16:51:39] though it would still be nice to have some of those links there [16:51:42] hm [16:52:04] I'll defer that question [16:52:41] It's nice, just trying to go for a minimalistic look for the main page [16:53:23] some community members actually got excited hearing about miraheze 👀 [16:59:22] Also why is parsing MediaWiki > plaintext so hard? [17:18:51] [1/2] Uh-oh. I can't login to my account. I get this error. [17:18:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407775906545533040/image.png?ex=68a754fb&is=68a6037b&hm=4913dda4c7849b979d01ba6d71668b57d2a3087330d3d570e8dd23a70c25a7bf& [17:19:09] I looked at another wiki. Did that break my account again? T^T [17:19:19] delete your cache and cookies and try again [17:19:22] Oh. [17:19:38] it's a bit silly at times, but your account is fine [17:20:06] SUCCESS. Thank you! [17:26:59] Use Special:ExpandTemplates or make a call to `api.php?action=parse` [17:30:21] What about if I am trying to parse away it in a dump after stripping xml? [17:34:02] Okay, so how do I have my wiki links embed an image from the article rather than the wiki logo? Like if I paste a page in Discord, it should link the image in the infobox.. something that isn't just the wiki logo. [17:36:26] [[mw:Extension:PageImages]] [17:36:32] [17:38:13] Do I need to do anything else after that or does installing that extension means... that's it? 😮 [17:39:49] it grabs the image after saving the page so you might need to make an edit [17:41:21] you're going to have to make a call to your local MW API to parse wikitext anyway since no local library will be able to make a decision as to how to parse e.g. `1234567/youtube` without checking what your local wiki has installed [17:45:13] (using `` as an example since Extension:EmbedVideo and Extension:Youtube both use ``) [17:45:35] This is a non local wiki with 3000+ pages [18:26:54] Mmmm i thought it was CC BY SA 2.0 [18:28:19] wasn't it 3.0 on wikia and fandom for years now [18:28:31] *wp [18:28:48] 2.0 is a bit old yeah [18:45:23] how does it work [18:46:04] idk the differences between CC versions [18:46:44] [1/2] all I know is that they wouldn't bother making new ones if there wasn't a reason [18:46:44] [2/2] a reason why you probably don't want to use older versions [18:52:26] ngl i kinda like the Mirage skin more than Cosmos [19:05:18] 💔 [19:05:34] Most of the stuff in common i want to use is cc 2.0 [19:21:15] Yippee! [19:30:27] I assume it'll take some time to get implemented? [19:32:42] i think you need to wait for a new version release yeah [19:38:38] you can still use that stuff, it just needs to be properly marked as CC 2. [20:39:56] [1/2] What is this filter even doing?? [20:39:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407826510349598841/image.png?ex=68a7841c&is=68a6329c&hm=3edb918dcfa421d99387a89d6f82c9097757582d059d7e767ecd975a92a2b908& [20:40:06] I'm certain the user isn't meaning to add anything malicious [20:40:42] (He is just bolding some text) [20:41:18] is there any quick way to embed the discord iframe widget in the wiki? 🤔 [20:42:24] What do the details say [20:43:31] @tali64 i think your filter is a bit off [20:43:56] This may have already been fixed? [20:44:48] @bitbyte10 you heard 'im, sacrifice your editor once again [20:44:59] Alright [20:45:20] What does the filter do anyway? [20:45:45] preemptive alt detection or smth??? [20:47:02] it's a filter specifically against one of the LTAs, can't tell you more [20:47:19] Can I know what LTA stands for? [20:47:23] long term abuse [20:47:24] Long term abuse [20:47:27] Ahh fair [20:47:33] Maybe the filter should've been named that [20:47:39] it is lol [20:47:55] Anti-LTA #8 [20:47:56] I mean maybe it should've been named "Anti-long term abuse" [20:48:01] it is lol [20:48:10] oh you mean written out [20:48:13] Yes [20:48:17] How many LTAs are there now? [20:48:20] Because I also had to look up what it means [20:48:43] [[Acronyms and Abbreviations]] [20:48:51] [20:51:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407829515320823909/image.png?ex=68a786e8&is=68a63568&hm=0755f7b89c5455f05044948e2f912f06e9b98f479bb182066dc35e2af6e1bbab& [20:52:16] What if CA was contributing to CA how would we ever figure out what that means [20:52:35] ts pmo icl [20:53:03] dont ask for the difference of MW and MW [20:53:32] Or what if CA wanted to use CA but the certificate on Meta expired so they first have to request one from a CA [20:54:03] he'll have to go to CA for that [20:54:08] or maybe the other CA [20:54:33] (canada and california) [20:55:07] or any of these: [[w:CA]] [20:55:08] [20:55:45] Me when I want to change something in my MW instance but MW doesn't let me so I have to change MW config first [20:56:44] [1/2] But at least it's not Schrödinger's abberviation [20:56:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407830739373920326/image.png?ex=68a7880c&is=68a6368c&hm=43b54dd97484b920d3dc3a8bf7d39194d800e7fbbfd8d8ede7aa552808dfc430& [20:56:55] A [20:56:56] Sometimes it's NA, but sometimes it's not [21:00:29] I was going to say maybe ManageWiki should've been named WikiConfig but [21:00:46] worse: WikiManage [21:00:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407831758228946954/IMG_7535.png?ex=68a788ff&is=68a6377f&hm=e6c7b2e00f9700a96c7c3758623c3ae61ccc3cd53a06a81512bc0e6c7bc6f1cc& [21:00:58] This is the one that stuck out to me lol [21:01:23] what's wrong with WTF? [21:01:35] perfectly accurate acronym [21:01:54] Well that one at least doesn't have an existent abbreviation [21:18:12] I remain acronymic [21:35:39] Wiki Mechanic [21:36:03] hey chat, anyone know how to edit the cosmos toolbar? [21:44:34] fine we'll rename you to a Mechanic (of) Wikis [21:44:36] oh wait... [21:50:39] [1/2] this thing [21:50:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407844304298442875/image.png?ex=68a794ae&is=68a6432e&hm=5341dfb8c6366f1e4b9cd4628926470357a1461e954d721f687552ed0ac703ee& [21:50:42] if u do, please ping me! [21:51:23] in which wqay [21:51:33] like, edit what's linked there [21:51:38] i dunno [21:51:46] don't use the cosmos skin that much [21:57:47] If this uses the equivalent page tools menu to Vector's then I think you can add things under the `* TOOLS` menu in MediaWiki:Sidebar [22:00:01] TOOLBOX* [22:00:35] Yeah that [22:01:37] But I'm trying it again and it doesn't seem to work anymore? [22:01:53] Maybe I'm tripping [22:03:01] you can add to MediaWiki:Sidebar 's TOOLBOX section, not sure if you can change the already existing links [22:03:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407847442333962280/image.png?ex=68a7979a&is=68a6461a&hm=5d56408cdbf133faafb45d4532551ba422554826d8aa3605edf5ec54cc1bc81a& [22:04:04] that worked, thank you! [22:04:33] Oh yeah it probably didn't work because I didn't specify the link text [22:04:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1407847841325514862/image.png?ex=68a797f9&is=68a64679&hm=7646a0042c1ad810f0abaaa0e1f3b7f82a0a447dab167482f0f44c5106827162& [22:05:01] yeah you gotta do that, it gets pissy [22:05:53] I forgor [22:26:55] fun fact: Cosmos never actually uses MediaWiki:Sidebar it uses MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation which just defaults to `{{int:sidebar}}` [22:27:55] cool! [22:28:03] I had to look that up as even though I made it I forgot it defaulted to sidebar lol [22:28:11] lmfao [22:28:15] I was like wait why does that work lol [22:28:24] ngl I wasn't sure if the toolbar was included in Cosmos-navigation [22:29:09] Honestly I forgot the toolbox even worked like that in Cosmos... perhaps it doesnt and something in core loads it from the sidebar. [22:29:39] So it is possible it doesn't but can't remember lol [22:29:45] cosmic magic at work again lol [22:30:11] Its been so long since I worked on Cosmos. I really should work on it again lol [22:40:37] The core does append page tools from the sidebar to the array with all other tool links [22:42:16] On UT/DR we have a completely separate navigation bar parser with a different format but the sidebar thing still adds the tools because that's just what core does I guess [22:50:18] how to make a link go to a specific section of another page [22:50:57] cfmca: [[Page#Anchor]] [23:42:25] Thinking of adding [hH]ater to our big list of filtered regex, anyone see any obvious holes on that plan? [23:42:36] It's a drastic measure, but this vandal is getting obnoxious [23:43:03] haters are gonna hate that one [23:43:15] Sure are, but they can spend five seconds and think of a better name [23:43:56] I'm debating going full-bore and trying to make a more complex filter to cover all the permutations this dingus keeps throwing out, they're incredibly predictable [23:44:13] it's an arms race, for sure [23:44:15] they're very fond of XisbetterThanY names too