[00:40:08] How do you promote another to bureaucrat again? [00:47:47] Special:UserRights [00:48:07] Is there a way I can check on the state of my import request? [00:48:30] It just says "request in progress" [00:48:58] I don't know why but I have a feeling I did something wrong [00:52:48] alright thanks much appreciated [00:52:56] i had forgotten since i never had the need to use it up until now [00:56:29] [1/2] also curious as to if you can adjust the size of a wiki's logo, or does that require css [00:56:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408615846083035206/image.png?ex=68aa633c&is=68a911bc&hm=1f2706f626f9288ffcbc1cda5215b34f677e52986f4c0f6f46860823d7359118& [01:27:26] [1/2] is there a way to make the cosmos toolbar stay in the right rail like how fandom does it instead? [01:27:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408623638013542424/image.png?ex=68aa6a7e&is=68a918fe&hm=ee0c686c916f8ea8c8bda707b3ef066e53931eba14f50c598657558ccf96d686& [01:33:34] Try align:right. [01:34:09] no i mean... make it part of the right rail instead of it being a toolbar (that i absolutely DISLIKE) [01:36:39] I have no clue what a rail is... Sorry. I'm stupid. [01:37:00] [1/2] this thing from cosmos [01:37:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408626046865244170/image.png?ex=68aa6cbc&is=68a91b3c&hm=3c2364de16c190fc043ed59dabc1d5c44150521ad64bd2720256bcba336da40c& [01:51:49] you mean turning it into a sidebar element? Or making it retract? [01:52:02] sidebar element [01:52:09] should've been more specific, sorry about that [01:54:37] custom js/css can probably get you there [01:55:05] probably both js and css [01:55:31] yeah [03:06:06] the dangers of commons enabled [03:06:24] while transfering my wiki one of the photos from the old wiki was on commons [06:02:12] How is everything [06:22:01] [1/2] how to make this stop appearing on yt embeds? [06:22:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408697773553094687/image.png?ex=68aaaf89&is=68a95e09&hm=beeb92af03aeda7b3dac9bfae5ecfd84ca79ab04f5015cf50e772452400ba5c6& [06:23:57] [1/2] I'm having an issue with DPL3 where `includematch` isn't filtering the pages. In my screenshot even pages that don't contain the word "January" are being returned. [06:23:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408698260004274216/image.png?ex=68aaaffd&is=68a95e7d&hm=8081d47a61b9654e303526092e728facc25ac4dbe7d5cf486966f4773525c11e& [06:29:38] disable $wgEmbedVideoRequireConsent on ManageWiki [06:36:30] Are you testing on VLW? That is a known DPL4 bug but should not occur on DPL3. [06:37:08] It is on VLW (which should be on 1.43), yes. [07:07:46] [1/2] @cosmicalpha New DPL bug found. This one affects DPL3 so it's probably not a big concern as long as DPL4 is fixed. [07:07:47] [2/2] On [this test page](https://bluearchive.wiki/wiki/User:PetraMagna/sandbox2?oldid=104941), two identical criteria for page selection result in different page sets, likely due to (again) `mode` affecting `includematch`. [07:09:18] [1/21] Queries: [07:09:18] [2/21] ``` [07:09:19] [3/21] {{#dpl: [07:09:19] [4/21] | category = Gifts [07:09:19] [5/21] | includematch = /doesnotexist/s [07:09:19] [6/21] | mode = userformat [07:09:20] [7/21] | format = ,,, [07:09:20] [8/21] | ordermethod = title [07:09:20] [9/21] | include = {Item{{!}}CharacterGifts.dpl} [07:09:21] [10/21] | noresultsheader = No result [07:09:21] [11/21] }} [07:09:22] [12/21]

[07:09:22] [13/21] {{#dpl: [07:09:23] [14/21] | category = Gifts [07:09:23] [15/21] | includematch = /doesnotexist/s [07:09:24] [16/21] | mode = inline [07:09:24] [17/21] | ordermethod = title [07:09:25] [18/21] | inlinetext = • [07:09:25] [19/21] }} [07:09:26] [20/21] ``` [07:09:26] [21/21] The first one returns `No result`, as expected. The second one returns everything despite `includematch`. [07:19:23] I think `includematch` only works with `include`. Very interesting. This might be the intended behavior, though I don't see it documented anywhere on DPL3 wiki or fandom's DPL manual. [07:21:37] [1/2] In fact, if `format` is set to something non-empty, DPL will output both "No result" and a list of pages. `mode` doesn't really matter here. No matter what mode DPL is using, it'll ignore `includematch` except for content generated by `include`. [07:21:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408712770991423518/image.png?ex=68aabd81&is=68a96c01&hm=739a780114c9e50b5bd34f38db5959592f1d0c6658da9a70d251dfc0c448bf6a& [08:36:15] [1/2] I just talked to electricsheep about this. The existing documentation puts `includematch` in the "Criteria for inclusion" section, which doesn't match the extension's actual behavior. As an alternative to fixing the extension, documenting `includematch` as an accompanying parameter of `include` would match the documentation with the implementation. [08:36:16] [2/2] This is backwards-compatible (in particular, bug compatible) but doesn't sound like a good idea, especially since `includematch` is also broken in DPL4 (and broken in a different way). [10:37:26] `{{#if` coupled with repeated text has been showing up in meta discussion pages for a while, and I think I fixed it since [[Special:Diff/487088]] did not result in extraneous text. [10:37:27]

[10:38:29] This might have been discussed a while back? I can't find the conversation now, but hopefully everything will be fine from now. [10:41:00] silly little trim template [10:41:07] cheers for fixing! [10:44:57] Did a bad import occur on Meta a few years ago? The trim template was broken by User:FANDOM, which also has some revisions on pages like https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage?action=history. [10:45:38] something very weird happened for sure [10:45:49] I think we talked about that a while ago, nothing was on the import log yet there are broken revisions that throw exceptions everywhere [10:49:55] Sounds like good urban legend material [10:59:12] [1/2] There seems to be a lot of them. Fortunately Ro is going through unused pages. [10:59:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408767525952688279/image.png?ex=68aaf07f&is=68a99eff&hm=1f9383c19df9301eb98500a38239284080c6aacedec452c5df69a48a99ad2317& [10:59:47] oh, I'm talking about a different thing then, oops [11:00:30] I was talking more about revisions like https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta?diff=prev&oldid=473373, of which there are lots in the history of all pages [11:05:44] [1/2] Ah yeah I noticed them too. They're definitely different from the FANDOM ones since these revisions don't exist. [11:05:44] [2/2] Both anomalies seem to come from bad imports, though. [11:52:20] is it safe to replace all templatestyles tags with {{#css: offered by the css extension [11:53:09] templatestyles only allows sanitized css that sucks [11:53:35] why can't i even edit a sanitized css page that's already saved then a null edit is not allowed [12:02:56] where can i request a wiki url change [12:03:05] does it show any errors then? [12:06:17] [1/2] it does [12:06:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408784406906273953/image.png?ex=68ab0038&is=68a9aeb8&hm=283ee80e71bbfd92588ef46c198fdf9496dc5ef73ff5b5f8e80565513df5c0fc& [12:06:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408784435054120981/image.png?ex=68ab003f&is=68a9aebf&hm=fe47b2a72556fc5ba3bac90e7b6b92a9364705ae739c76aa156c17b819ed6fb0& [12:06:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408784446345183365/image.png?ex=68ab0041&is=68a9aec1&hm=1a097e0a3d5b63e6defaafe481ddddd0e1e51c337ad2db3457d11e073afe9f7f& [12:06:40] but this has been saved [12:06:50] even a null edit gives the error [12:08:13] the page is at https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:EmbedMedia/styles.css [12:08:59] if this is safe i'd disable templatestyles [12:20:54] [1/2] background: var(--variablename) [12:20:54] [2/2] --variablename: rgba.... [12:21:06] this is due to a templatestyles update that breaks it [12:21:19] templatestylesextender* [12:27:29] there's ts extender extension [12:27:31] oh stupid update [12:27:57] i think it's enabled [12:28:16] iirc CSS ext is sanitized too [12:28:35] it used to be more robust alternative but it was unintentional behavior [12:28:51] oh no [12:29:30] but doesn't it allow me just {{#css:.write-some-css{--where:here}}} [12:29:35] how can this be sanitized [12:29:54] not sure about that [12:30:01] again, iirc [12:46:57] It only sanitizes external URLs IIRC. It allows unprivilaged users to make pages like https://exttest.mirabeta.org/wiki/CSS/Test2 [12:47:44] [1/9] Things like [12:47:44] [2/9] ``` [12:47:45] [3/9] {{#css: [12:47:45] [4/9] body { [12:47:45] [5/9] visibility: hidden; [12:47:46] [6/9] } [12:47:46] [7/9] }} [12:47:46] [8/9] ``` [12:47:46] [9/9] is permitted by the extension and can be written by anyone. [12:52:49] it just says your mh account is compromised [12:54:21] okay. action=raw works [12:54:54] so this is not sanitized [13:25:50] where can i request a wiki url change [13:28:10] Phorge [13:28:47] period! [13:41:37] discordapp.com/invite/crCmayNDhr @everyone [13:41:37] @johnnycoolmn87 No invite links. [13:41:58] Woah-oh... did the wiki die? [13:41:58] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp37 [13:42:09] My ediiiiiiiiiiits! T^T [13:42:10] NOOOOO. [13:42:25] I was submitting an edit when it happened. 🙁 [13:42:31] Wait, and when the wiki gets back, try to go back [13:42:40] Oh yeah! [13:42:45] Often it is still cached [13:42:49] turn edit recovery on [13:42:55] I HAVE IT, Thank the god almighty Librarian. [13:43:11] That an extension? [13:43:18] nope, a preference [13:43:28] Ooooh, I'll check it out. [13:43:54] And we're back [14:07:27] Is there an extension which gives you a list of suggestions whenever you're inserting a wiki link? (like on Fandom) [14:08:50] i think it's VE's personal setting? [14:27:04] LinkSuggest i think [15:08:14] Do I need to do anything else? I added it to the wiki but it's not... working. 🙁 [15:12:53] Do you have syntax highlight enabled [15:13:03] I just turned it off. Still not working though, hmm. [15:13:30] It might take a bit [15:13:37] Try &debug=2 [15:13:56] What's that? [15:14:18] OH IT WORKS [15:14:19] Yay. [16:03:20] [1/3] I’m looking to help the first 10 people interested on how to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username 👇 [16:03:20] [2/3] @Officialsteven247 [16:03:20] [3/3] Or The Telegram Link in my bio [17:13:22] is it loading slow for anyone else today? I've had one or two hiccups today it feels like [17:34:12] [1/2] What is this banner [17:34:13] [2/2] https://wikitidestatus.net/ [17:34:40] It needs to be changed [17:35:52] ? [17:36:33] It's so large [17:37:32] no? [17:39:39] [1/2] ?? [17:39:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1408868303287615619/Screenshot_461.png?ex=68ab4e5b&is=68a9fcdb&hm=fa8415e2f65a9f73312883153ca401ad804e78b1be8d46968fd5820d7191106b& [17:40:35] classic chromebook/tiny school laptop experience with way too much scaling [17:41:07] personal laptop (lenovo) [17:41:16] 🥀 [17:41:27] then reduce your scaling lol [17:41:36] sometimes atlassian scales it pretty large [17:41:44] instatus better... 👀 [18:42:06] [1/2] @notaracham I don’t know where else to inquire about this as I’m not home right this second, but regarding my request to remove a bureaucrat from my wiki, our rules differ from default rules, permissions can be held in abeyance by executive action until/unless a majority of bureaucrats oppose permanent removal, gotta admin I don’t really understand why you put my req on hold with tha [18:42:06] [2/2] t info in mind [18:43:00] i accidentally edited a page without being logged in, is there a way to "claim" that edit as my own or otherwise remove my ip? [18:44:57] Flit: congratulations, you have one a trip to oversight requests [18:45:25] Oh, if you have local rules specifically calling that out, then yes we can potentially do so. With public Miraheze projects no individual crat is normally considered the owner so removal requires community consensus. [18:45:51] yerp we dooo, the power of rules lawyering [18:45:57] is... that a no? i'm bureaucrat, surely i can do something [18:46:01] Huzzah. Then yes, happy to handle that [18:46:46] Sorry for the confusion Flit. Yes, I can help with removal of the username for the IP edit. [18:47:05] ok, since i'm on irc how should i send you the information? [18:47:10] If you have a link handy (or know where to direct me), I can verify and get that done, otherwise I'll take a perusal [18:47:19] Flit, one second, I'll hop over [18:47:31] cool ty! [18:49:42] Alright, done [18:50:31] thanks! is there no way to do this myself as bureaucrat without deleting the revision? [18:51:14] You can hide the revision username from all but other administrators, but full suppression (also known as oversight) requires fancy global powers as that exposes more user/sensitive data [18:52:01] The way to do this is go to the page's history, check the box for the revision wyou want to change, then click 'change visibility of selected revision' [18:52:41] With that, you can select whether to hide the text of the revision, the edit summary, or the username of the editor [18:54:25] as long as the general public can't see it i'm satisfied. thanks! i'll keep that in mind [18:55:14] https://www.lei.miraheze.org/wiki/Policy:Bureaucrat (subtitle Procedures, section "Removal of Permissions", last paragraph of that section is the applicable rule) [18:55:59] Aces, thanks for that, I'd stumbled on the same page intuitively. [18:56:10] wow our minds are connected [18:56:37] the power of mirahezeship [18:57:01] Alright, that one's now done as well [18:58:32] Is it possible to designate a part of a page to always be the same dimensions no matter how much content it has? With scrollbars [19:03:47] with css you can set a height: and/or width: value and `overflow: scroll` [19:08:12] Is this the place where I can ask questions about RimJobWorld? [19:08:42] what [19:08:54] this is a server for Miraheze, a wikifarm [19:11:43] I found this place from the RJW wiki. I have a bug to report about RJW. Could someone please tell me where I should go? [19:12:34] [1/2] sorry, you should've specific what it's a wiki, hard to keep track with over 20k of them [19:12:35] [2/2] what's the issue you're facing? [19:14:06] do you mean the most ethical wikifarm? [19:16:08] sorry im Chinese，use deepseek to talk with you ,plese wait me for a while [19:16:30] I try not to insert my own opinions too much [19:16:43] and let the users decide what they wanna call miraheze [19:16:52] that's ok, take your time [19:17:56] Go to the rjw discord [19:18:24] It's linked on the wiki main page [19:18:31]