[00:32:33] I'll probably be working requests Friday this week (yay 4 day weekend) so you won't be waiting terribly long if another steward can't get to it [00:35:23] just to be clear, no downsides to this, right? I couldn't find any but I'm no Mediawiki experts 😅 Also, the "Main_Page" couldn't it just be the base url? 🤔 [00:38:30] That's what the checkbox below the article path is for [00:38:50] So yeah you can request that too [00:39:34] nice, I'll add to the request as well then, ty :) [00:40:41] Is there any map extension on miraheze that allows the use of a custom map file and has a visual editor for placing waypoints around it? [01:01:22] no [01:01:30] DataMaps is available but there is no visual editor [01:04:31] Alrighty, thank you! [01:25:54] I mean we use some workarounds to visually edit maps on UT/DR but I'm not sure how suitable are those outside of our wikis [01:28:05] Are there any extensions in miraheze that allow us to push notifications to webhooks, like whenever a page is edited the extension pushes to discord? 👀 [02:33:10] [1/4] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Scandinavia [02:33:11] [2/4] I use [[mw:Extension:Maps]] [02:33:11] [3/4] I've seen it used with a custom background instead, (not sure how that works though). But there is no visual editor. I've done it via Source editor. Placing the pins on the map by Geolocation. [02:33:11] [4/4] I believe you can also make polygons. [02:33:11]

[02:33:32] https://maps.extension.wiki/wiki/Maps_for_MediaWiki [02:34:10] https://maps.extension.wiki/wiki/Visual_Leaflet_editor [02:35:36] There should be a visual editor for Maps [02:39:29] 💤 [02:43:38] Is it possible to get a user blocked globally for being under the age of 13? [02:46:47] Their admission is off site but it is right out there in the open [02:47:04] (I understand if this needs to go to dms) [02:56:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Underage_users <- in case you haven't seen it [02:58:19] [1/2] > Off-wiki admissions on places such as Discord or a non-Miraheze wiki cannot be corroborated as legitimate many times and thus cannot be used to cite that a user is under age. [02:58:19] [2/2] I don't understand what "many times" here means. It's in the original revision and no one seems to question that. [02:58:45] Maybe a typo of "most of the time"? [03:02:18] ^ @euphoria.holic [03:02:55] yea prob [03:03:08] Thank you, i was just hoping this one would count since they linked to their page on their mira acc [03:05:01] Bring it to a TS report please, best not to include details in the open [03:07:24] @agentisai Maybe Agent knows if this is a typo? [03:07:30] Sorry, someone did, will hope it works out [03:08:48] I apologize for my lack of an English degree despite being a college graduate but I did not and still do not see a spelling issue \:p [03:08:59] but “most of the time” would apply in this context, yes [03:11:07] Ah I see. By "typo" I meant to say "many times" doesn't seems to make sense in this context. [03:30:06] [1/3] Actually it does the grammar/structure is just off it should read as either: “… non-Miraheze wiki many times cannot be corroborated as legitimate and…” [03:30:06] [2/3] Or [03:30:06] [3/3] “… cannot be corroborated as legitimate many times, thus cannot be used to cite…” [03:54:12] What throws me off is that "many times" implies that off-wiki admissions often cannot be corroborated. This contradicts the remainder of the sentence where "cannot be used to cite" implies that off-wiki evidence should never be used. [03:54:51] I see it as the many times being the reason why they cannot be used [03:55:52] I think its really just how you interpret it [03:56:34] I read it as reason then effect, not the other way [04:25:10] This falls under my domain as TS director, will take a look at editing for clarity [04:55:47] It depends. I can think of maybe once or twice when it’s used as a corroborating factor in a decision but the decision isn’t based on that circunstancial evidence alone [05:00:15] What would be considered non-circumstantial? Like, does posting their age off-wiki count? [05:12:56] My [[mw:extension:PageNotice]] for talk pages isn't showing up [05:12:57]

[05:13:52] Is the server slow or is [[MediaWiki:Top-notice-ns-12]] the wrong id for talk pages? [05:13:53]

[05:15:03] The whole look of talk pages seems different now as well [05:15:15] Miraheze update? [05:18:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410493821577461780/Screenshot_2025-08-27_at_10.18.38_PM.png?ex=68b1383c&is=68afe6bc&hm=1515bdf2d7955ebdb83bb7a6a7d9ae564dfdb8cf391e908bd8d7a0bde6df913b& [05:19:06] Shidd [05:19:16] I see the issue thanks [06:46:02] Would it make sense to make an administrator/test wiki to see and modify things like templates (especially modified or specifically-made) ones on my own test wiki? If I don't need it anymore, I could just request to have it taken down, right...? 🤔 [06:48:50] not advised, there's public test wiki [06:48:55] :\ [06:48:57] Hmm... [06:49:02] I don't get how it works... [06:49:20] So, if I upload something on the test wiki, I can just delete it afterward, right? [06:49:42] 'Cause it's a bit too public... [06:49:43] [06:49:55] why not use placeholders? [06:50:11] Naw, I need to see how things actually look as if on a real wiki and stuff. [06:50:29] I don't need to test admin stuff, just have mockups and such. [06:50:36] Before using them on my main wikis. [06:50:44] i never needed a separate testing ground cus i already do everything on my wiki [06:51:05] like, everything can be fixed or rolled back or deleted [06:51:09] I almost completely ruined my wiki's theme recently. Took forever to get it back to normal. I freaked myself. [06:51:28] how [06:51:45] there's page history [06:51:59] you could pick an older revision and just force save it [06:52:04] The Common.css. I was trying to change the theme, but ultimately decided not to 'cause of all the experimentation it would take to get the theme right. [06:52:07] And I did do that. [06:52:33] that's why we use user space for testing too [06:52:41] It was a severe hassle, I did not ejoy it. Now if I had my own test wiki... [06:53:15] You can change themes in the user space? [06:53:51] 'Cause as things are... [06:54:03] :\ [06:54:12] wdym by themes [06:54:43] Theme layouts. Like Cosmos, Vector...They take different CSS. [06:54:48] And colors, too. [06:55:13] those are skins, they indeed have different layouts [06:55:31] however, Common.css is for general styling regardless of skin [06:55:39] Yeah. [06:55:44] if you modify skins you use skin CSS [06:55:51] MediaWiki:Cosmos.css [06:55:52] etc [06:56:02] My css page is going to be miles long... [06:56:30] you haven't seen long CSS if you haven't checked wiki.gg wikis lol [06:56:47] as for user spaces [06:56:59] ...I had CSS that was the size of a novella, once. 😑 [06:57:10] Don't want that again. [06:57:22] [1/3] User:Username/common.css for CSS [06:57:22] [2/3] User:Username/common.js for JS [06:57:23] [3/3] that way ot would work only for you, and it also works right away, perfect for testing [06:57:34] Hmm... [06:57:47] I see. [06:57:54] I'll try it out, I guess... [06:58:02] well, size of the code would depend on how you group things too [06:58:24] different classes and ids can be bundled together if, say, they all need a red border [06:58:42] I know, but I need to be able to read my code, and I'm not a good coder. [06:58:51] So I do what works for me. [06:59:00] i add comments [06:59:06] Yeah. [06:59:15] That also makes the code long. [06:59:42] you want good css? [07:00:07] No, I want working CSS. [07:00:14] And CSS I can read. [07:00:23] Like I said, I'm not that good... [07:00:28] also, again skin css id crucial [07:01:01] less things on common + no mix ups [07:01:37] it doesn't matter how it gets then [07:02:21] I think this would be easier with my own test space, but...I'll try this first, I guess... [07:02:47] you can try to request, but chances are it will be declined [07:03:15] im not reviewer or steward, bit it's general practice when such requests are redirected to public test [07:09:48] i forgot "long" lol [07:46:43] Do not test changes in Common.css. Browsers have built-in developer tools for a reason... [08:33:59] Maybe one day I'll make a video guide on how to use developer tools to test CSS changes on MediaWiki. I couldn't find one on YouTube and am tempted to make one myself. [08:34:48] Pretty sure River would have a blog on that [08:35:17] [08:36:04] unfortunately general public craves videos [08:36:20] /me, a video tutorials hater/ [08:37:23] This is really nice. I should link to it in the CSS guide. [08:39:13] I think most editors are like that since we mostly write text content and read manuals. But, videos are really good for beginners. Only past a certain point of mastery will text guides/manuals outperform videos in terms of efficiency, at least that's how I see it. [08:39:37] true [08:40:41] I recorded a tutorial several years ago for moegirlpedia, assembled it with ffmpeg, and uploaded it to bilibili. AFAIK it was the first video tutorial ever produced for that wiki and probably still is the only one. [08:55:09] [1/4] Unrelated side note: why are section editing buttons broken on Meta's help namespace pages? I don't see anything suspicious on `ManageWiki/namespaces`. Doing `?action=edit§ion=2` in the URL works, so permission-wise section editing is enabled for me (and my unprivilaged alts). [08:55:09] [2/4] The button does appear on non-Help namespaces. [08:55:10] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410548247914877052/image.png?ex=68b16aed&is=68b0196d&hm=99774d9937d0c976bcc62c78662cef4a1374eae926a75bc705975a2fb3e380fb& [08:55:10] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410548248346624000/image.png?ex=68b16aed&is=68b0196d&hm=bdf8172331aceb93279422314bfaf821b51711de58de3a0351cb95f8d0798a12& [08:59:16] I would like to change my theming, but I am clueless [09:02:03] A lot of them are marked with noeditsection [09:02:12] But not all, so not sure what's happening there [09:02:33] Language subpages do have edit sections [09:02:52] Ah thanks. I think it's `Template:Help_page`. [09:10:44] is there a way to stop commons images from polluting the search results on VisualEditor without disabling their use altogether? [09:10:51] it's like straight up unusable [09:13:36] What do you mean? [09:13:44] Screenshot? [09:14:48] exclude commons files from search suggestions i guess [09:15:03] only show locally uploaded [09:15:10] oh [09:15:11] idk how tho [09:15:17] me neither [09:15:30] [1/2] this is the exact name of a file I have on my wiki (minus the .png) but all this nonsense shows up instead [09:15:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410553367746580490/image.png?ex=68b16fb1&is=68b01e31&hm=51d783b55aafc618b5dea7192d374c8950b9e05f1d633075432156a5af81b370& [09:16:06] Hmm. I've never seen that [09:16:17] But then again, I've never used Visual Editor [09:16:28] the only option is to disable the commons images entirely ☹️ [09:16:40] :/ [09:16:56] normally I source edit for something like this but I was writing a help page [09:17:01] And what happens, if you put the search between ""? [09:17:18] "Special brand infinity" [09:17:40] No results found [09:17:44] hmm [09:31:07] I removed `NOEDITSECTION` in `Template:Help_page`. I would assume circumstances are different now from when the template was created by @zppix in 2018. [09:36:11] [1/2] i wonder where is the code to format Rodejong’s username located? i think it's js but i can't find it [09:36:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410558574265892944/image.png?ex=68b1748b&is=68b0230b&hm=f643348c8d2d3961050d22f00e57d50ccf2e9e132848f1dcb6bead83ea50046e& [09:40:26] Heh [09:41:14] [1/4] ```{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#switch:{{NAMESPACE}}|User=User:/span|User talk=Discussion:/span|}}R/spano/spand/spane/spanj/spano/spann/spang/span/span{{#if:{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}||2}}|//span{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}||2}}|}}/spa [09:41:15] [3/4] n}} [09:41:15] [4/4] {{#ifeq: {{NAMESPACE}} | | |

{{#IfEq: {{NAMESPACE}} | | | [[File:B_up.svg|40px|link={{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}#content]]}}/div}}``` [09:41:25] i see [09:41:34] it's bc of displaytitle extension [09:41:40] I'm not sure that's what they were asking for [09:41:52] What wiki is this [09:42:15] Any wiki I am on [09:42:30] (I'm Rodejong) [09:43:17] I just need any example man I'm not going to trawl CentralAuth just to find a wiki you're on [09:43:43] [[mh:xyy:User:Rodejong]] [09:43:49]

[09:44:45] https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong/Navigation [09:44:58] It's backed in my navigation [09:46:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410561101560680458/image.png?ex=68b176e5&is=68b02565&hm=c2e580ed2069e6f7cc76de6eb54a401216462947f4e3c89408756a1287b4920c& [09:46:16] Hm yeah I see it's indeed that extension [09:47:21] didn't expect the extension also works to user list and places like recent changes [09:48:58] Yeah, it will display it everywhere I am "listed" [09:49:02] our local sysops were like why that guy has such a cool username and then ||abused power and add links pointing to our userpages to sitewide css|| [09:49:34] LOL [09:50:15] https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-ColoredSysops.css [09:50:39] I mean that's how you'd usually do it [09:52:33] Never heard of that one. [09:52:44] [1/2] That's how you all look like this? [09:52:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1410562739163758662/image.png?ex=68b1786c&is=68b026ec&hm=ea9ce5d041134690b993ef3958ce0a3d31c3e556dc42c1974b324b214fac4a89& [09:53:00] yes it's at https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-ColoredCharacters.css [09:53:21] Ah. [09:54:05] I'm a copy paster. I really have no clue what I am doing with css. [09:54:29] it's generally inspired by https://bandori.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-linkcolors.css [09:54:58]