[00:38:02] I know whats happening here, but I'm not immediately sure how to fix it. Basicall [00:42:03] I'm trying to set up WikiSEO on my wiki, but it doesn't seem as if my wiki even recognizes or processes the ```{{#seo|...}}``` parser function at all [00:42:09] When I put it in, it just appears as plaintext [00:42:23] have you enabled the extension? [00:43:00] Yes- it's been enabled for almost as long as I had the wiki (>2 years), but I never tried actually implementing anything with it until today [00:43:15] Do you think turn-it-off-and-back-on may work? [00:43:18] can you link the page [00:45:54] Here's the template where I tried to implement it [00:45:55] https://wgtropes.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:SEO [00:47:34] (Just a heads up the wiki contains NSFW stuff but the page itself doesn't have anything) [00:51:42] Question: When using Dynamicpagelist3, how do I set it so that they're listed alphabetically? Right now, they're just in some completely random order. [00:52:49] ordermethod=title [00:53:25] Thank you kindly. [00:57:12] You forgot the colon after `seo`. It's `{{#seo:|...}}` [00:57:16] ^ [00:59:19] https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057 [00:59:22] And now it seems to be working! Thanks! [01:36:19] What happened [03:00:42] @reception123 your website said to contact you for the IP block coming from galatic hub [03:01:41] @reception123 your website said to contact you for the IP block coming from galatic hub [03:22:00] well i saw new logged in user on my wiki is using veโ€ฆ i'm really not sure if they switched manually or it's default [03:25:03] is there a way to just enable ve but keep it minimum like it's only available when you manually turn it on in preferences? don't make it default for anyone and don't advertise it when anyone starts editing in the normal editorโ€ฆ [03:29:33] I just tested with an alt and the wiki gives me VE by default. I suggest creating a task on [[Phorge]] so that this issue can be tracked by tech. [03:29:33] [03:30:48] so $wmgVisualEditorEnableDefault does not work at all [03:38:29] [[phab:T14223]] [03:38:30] [06:26:58] Mostly just curious. When do modules get loaded? Is it every time they are needed when rendering a page or are they passively active after changes are saved? [06:35:31] They'll be loaded on parse [06:35:48] Which we heavily cache both the old parser and Parsoid output [06:35:58] Although some things will harm its effectiveness [09:18:56] is it possible to create a personal wiki? [09:19:07] I think i have seen them before on here [09:19:21] a private wiki? yes [09:19:28] checkbox on special:requestwiki [09:19:36] if already created, toggleable on special:managewiki [09:20:01] oh ok [09:21:59] test [09:22:29] I wanna request one but like [09:22:36] idk what to add lol [09:23:02] "this wiki is a personal wiki for [my username]" doesn't seem like enough [09:23:56] ok now im verified [09:46:01] For some reason the parameter isn't being passed as you said even though it exists in the frame [09:46:42] The code for generating those format tags is such a mess it was hurting my head to look at though so I will revisit later today [10:03:00] vanity wikis aka wikis about the persona of requester aren't favoured and most likely to be rejected [10:03:30] unless you mean something else by "personal wiki" [10:04:20] it's not like a autobiography [10:04:28] like see BWM's wiki [10:05:16] elaborate [10:05:29] idk what's that [10:05:43] https://brandonwm.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [10:05:59] [1/2] .... [10:06:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1413102789336498206/FLvn4NX.png?ex=68bab607&is=68b96487&hm=fb6af92dd07a42e74ac87ea9ba9dac6706833ca1c6a1588bbd504d73ca05ab97& [10:06:18] well dude [10:06:25] i can't read thoughts [10:06:35] oh sorry [10:06:35] could be anything so ive asked [10:06:41] ? [10:06:45] oh [10:07:12] a wiki that is personally owned by a user [10:07:27] and what is going to be on the wiki? [10:08:15] my interest's and Projects [10:08:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1413103442137714719/b0q8vDO.png?ex=68bab6a2&is=68b96522&hm=a3e46400a7c660e47e813af376cc5ae5d468c62d50f8b968231d00a8f224ebff& [10:09:04] i suppose this works, similarly to development and worldbuilding wikis [10:09:51] yeah [10:59:43] The problem with your request (I saw it) is that it is very road with several topics and different scopes. [11:03:05] [1/2] Even though it is a personal wiki, (which we generally are more relaxed with) we require a wiki to have one topic and one scope, one purpose. [11:03:05] [2/2] That is a hard requirement for public wikis, and if your wiki ever was to become public, would fall under that same requirement. [11:03:39] you want me to cut it down? [11:03:44] So the scope is too broad. [11:03:45] Yes [11:04:28] [1/2] Keep it under one scope. [11:04:29] [2/2] e.g. World building can include some politics. [11:04:54] everything i listed can be under worldbuilding [11:05:11] But `LGBTQ and Gender studies` is not really worldbuilding [11:05:28] That is a scope for itself [11:05:41] I removed everything but worldbuilding [11:05:42] have you considered using a notes app instead? you can get pretty advanced with some of them and it'll be much easier to update [11:06:24] no thanks, nice suggestion although [11:07:34] I specified something like "this may or may not include everything listed" [11:10:08] [1/3] "May or may not" is not really a guarantee ๐Ÿ˜„ [11:10:09] [2/3] You need to have your topic, scope and purpose ready when you start requesting your wiki. [11:10:09] [3/3] Asking first and then see what you want to do is the wrong priority imho ๐Ÿ˜‰ [11:11:06] And if you want to change the scope at some point, you need to request that from the Stewards [11:11:16] well I've fixed it, thanks for the advice [11:21:25] [1/5] fellas, it's been months since timeless update [11:21:26] [2/5] did anyone figured out what's wrong w/ footer badges [11:21:26] [3/5] here i haven't modified them, but the problem persists even w/ mods like on pizzatower.wiki [11:21:26] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1413121773053935737/Screenshot_20250904-151900.png?ex=68bac7b5&is=68b97635&hm=0fea832b188bf363dd1797f976e1d3d33a1abd2fe39160c063faf32717255b2e& [11:21:26] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1413121773460914236/Screenshot_20250904-151933.png?ex=68bac7b5&is=68b97635&hm=8213d83777317a0bf0d25fb564d970bd81f5e04e50ada5b28af7f659c6e18d4a& [11:24:55] I don't really think it's a problem [11:24:59] the backround is just gone [11:25:10] yeah man [11:25:23] it keeps disappearing at random points [11:28:31] Perhaps @cosmicalpha can answer that? Otherwise maybe create a [[Phorge]] if there isn't a task for that already. [11:28:32] [11:36:10] How much should I throttle my bot? [11:36:46] I'm currently using the ones suggested by the PyWikiBot manual on meta but can't we go faster than that? [13:21:37] CSS extension doesn't work in edit preview after that fix, isn't it? [13:40:19] this is annoying [13:45:27] How can I enable Extension:MobileFrontend? [13:45:44] wait nvm [13:45:47] it is built in [13:45:51] in miraheze [13:45:53] Go to Special:ManageWiki/extensions, there you can search for MobileFrontend and tick the box next to it [13:46:29] thanks but I already have it enabled [15:38:06] Any way to reliably get a list of unused files? (Special:UnusedFiles is unreliable ๐Ÿ˜ข) [15:48:46] By unreliable you mean cached for a day? [15:53:01] No he means he's blocked cause he hit the api at a peak of at least 11 requests a second [15:53:31] Tech can go faster than the limits [15:59:47] hello, i enabled the Portable Infobox in the extensions screen but when I go to the link (https://lifetcg.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder) it says no such special page. any ideas? [16:00:10] Special:Version does not list PortableInfobox [16:00:16] Maybe you need to wait a bit? [16:03:24] [1/3] Go through every file and list every page that links to it. If such a list is empty, the file is unused. [16:03:24] [2/3] Note that this is still unreliable because file usage can fail to be updated sometimes (just like categories). It will also ignore advanced usage such as `{{filepath}}`. [16:03:24] [3/3] You can probably just wait for the special page to be updated. Deleting unused files is not a high-priority task anyway. [16:05:23] Oh :p [16:14:15] it works now you were righht [16:47:40] Is there a way to edit infobox templates in the portable infobox builder instead of only the html? [16:49:19] no, builder is only for creation [16:50:18] thanks [17:02:20] Hi. Tell me, I don't want to sound rude, but I think it's been four days since the procedures for reopening the wikis were โ€œfrozenโ€ in a way. I have no idea if this is the normal process, I just wanted to point it out. [17:28:33] is there a way to make data in the infobox dynamic? lets say I have a header and two data elements, but on rare occasions i might want to add multiple header and data elements, but i dont know how many those rare pages may need. Instead of having to manually create data1/2/3/4/5 into infinity is there a way to create these dynamically? [17:29:44] normally you give parameters easy, more understandable names instead of dataX [17:30:17] now sure why you need the dynamic part, since infoboxes are tenplates [17:30:50] (i just, seen newbies putting infobox code directly on article not realizing the purpose of templates) [17:31:53] Technically you can build the entire infobox in Lua and add new sections as you detect new numbered parameters, but that's more of a hack than something PortableInfobox was designed to do [17:32:27] Yeah im talking about regular infobox templating now [17:32:57] But I'm not really sure if it makes sense to have an infinite amount of sections in an infobox anyways [17:33:11] I mean, the infobox is meant to be a quick overview of the article [17:35:29] hmm i might have to rework the page organization [17:43:12] [1/2] technically [17:43:12] [2/2] it should be possible to swap first paragraph and infobox w/ just CSS? :ThinkerMH: [17:44:02] talking @media queries here [17:44:39] because my current solution is making first paragraph a part of infobox [17:45:51] obviously not very convenient [17:45:55] or it's js only solution? [18:07:02] hi!!! [18:09:01] me and a bunch of friends are starting work on a wiki, like everyone else [18:09:13] im not the leader, but another one is, and their wiki got approved just now [18:09:31] theres a bit of a tiny problem tho... [18:09:48] as stupid as this may seem, how do we like invite collaborators? [18:12:25] yeahhh we're VERY new to this lolz [18:12:44] finding editors in general usually starts w/ gently promoting the wiki in corresponding or close topic communities [18:12:56] if this is what you mean [18:13:12] we're in a little discord server as a team [18:13:15] ive created mine [18:13:20] leader's created their [18:13:21] s [18:13:37] and now we're learning the ropes of miraheze [18:14:04] what's the wiki about? [18:14:19] ehh its like plenty of others [18:14:28] a fanwiki about a videogame [18:15:50] yeah, then you post about your wiki, say, in game's reddit or in game's tag on tumblr [18:15:51] and this wiki is being worked on by a group of people, im in said group [18:17:01] you need to let the fans know about the wiki [18:17:05] im not quite sure if im wording this well [18:17:27] like how exactly do we put certain users in higher groups of a wiki? [18:17:39] or ranks [18:17:49] ah well, see [18:18:45] go to user's page, in side/toolbar there should be Change user groups link [18:19:03] it will open another page where you can manage that user's rights [18:19:10] mmhm [18:21:13] im guessing there's already some preset groups? [18:22:12] yeah [18:22:50] bureaucrat is the highest one that should be given away freely, the user who requested the wiki becomes the one [18:22:58] then administrator follows [18:23:40] both can do same things on the wiki, bureau is just the one who can promote and demote other admins and only promote bureaus [18:24:08] im guessing administrator is the most suitable for me and the others in the team? [18:24:10] typo typo, i meant not [18:24:20] yeah [18:24:25] alrighty! [18:24:42] once the leader comes back online, ill get to helping them set the thing up [18:24:47] thanks buddy!! [18:24:58] anything else before i go? [18:26:03] [1/3] regarding user rights, no [18:26:03] [2/3] it is not advised to poke deeper permissions settings in the beginning [18:26:03] [3/3] as you'll have more questions, you can ask further [18:26:18] alright!! [18:27:12] ill get going now!! [18:27:25] if i have any other questions, ill be sure to ask! [18:28:20] bye for now!!!! ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿ˜Š [19:09:22] Does whichever bot that manages the <@&408620741647663115> role remember you if you leave this server and rejoin later or would you need to re-verify? [19:12:52] I think so [19:12:58] If not just use #verify again [19:15:00] fair enough, thanks ๐Ÿ‘ [20:23:43] guess im staying w/ my dumb template solution [20:36:34] [1/2] Currently getting an error page on my wiki: [20:36:34] [2/2] > Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp201 at Thu, 04 Sep 2025 20:35:46 GMT [20:36:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1413261503196303370/image.png?ex=68bb49d7&is=68b9f857&hm=495f6f8924fbb6ce82cb6e163136340d9321b948285ade113dc10cb065534a5f& [20:36:44] Miraheze is down [20:37:08] bro, just when i was uploading file lol [20:37:35] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp201 at Thu, 04 Sep 2025 20:35:41 GMT [20:37:35] [2/2] Varnish XID 945946636 [20:37:39] Correct [20:37:54] oh [20:37:56] Tech is notified [20:37:58] i thought i was the only one [20:38:14] good thing I'm editing a long page and don't need to save right away :emmmLUL: [20:38:22] i saved luckily [20:38:59] here goes my file description [20:39:16] this one is probably unsalvageable [20:40:56] your browser should probably have saved them and will resubmit them when you refresh the page once miraheze is back up [20:41:01] assuming you haven't closed the tab [20:41:23] nah it's at Special:Upload [20:41:39] not sure if it keeps data [20:42:30] I always copy the whole page in my cach "CTRL+A" then "CTRL+C" before I submit, so that if the page gets lost, I can just past it again [20:42:45] oh i just realized its back [20:43:06] It is indeed back [20:43:15] Seems it was a temporary issue that self recovered. Apologies for the inconvenience. [20:43:27] It did for me [20:54:46] Is creating a stylish wiki just a matter of pure coding? [20:57:08] CSS mostly yes