[00:01:18] My internet has gotten so bad I can never tell when it's an outage or not till I check here. [00:54:47] Oh, useful links! They showed me that MediaWiki engineer is the wrong role! I would rather go in the direction of MediaWiki Specialist... What I have to do for this? [01:15:45] they dont know you're being satire man Regardless if satire or not threats of harm will not be tolerated. [01:25:24] If that continues a punishment could be issued. [01:25:37] @kai84 ^ [02:01:02] i have a question, would sane search work for a wiki that has a lot of fully uppercase page titles and fully lowercase page titles? or would it just redirect to a version of the page that doesn’t exist with ‘proper’ capitalization [02:02:53] [1/2] is the citizen skin supposed to be here? can't find it. sorry, i'm new. [02:02:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1421316136082870312/image.png?ex=68d8974d&is=68d745cd&hm=bf0bf73adcf9ca7e88edc32831449036ac693556fbd193d2e62e9da3d60178ac& [02:03:24] You may need to enable the skin firsr [02:03:27] First* [02:03:42] where could i find that? [02:03:45] under manage extensions [02:04:15] ah! [02:04:18] thanks! [02:04:21] Np [02:04:25] surprised its not a default haha [02:11:54] Helping out on [[phorge]] and #support in a way that demonstrates familiarity with MediaWiki helps. [02:11:54]

[02:17:18] 95% of these are code issues! [02:17:52] So, stuff for MediaWiki engineer... [02:18:40] Or stuff for stewards (import, rename requests etc) [02:25:36] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14325 could make it a default. From usage numbers, we should remove a few skins and maybe add a few more. [02:26:18] NOOOOO MY ROLE ICONS [02:26:59] A lot of these such as https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1421321300051497001/1421321300051497001 simply requires familiarity with how Miraheze wikis work. [02:27:15] tbh i think timeless and vector should be the only global skin [02:27:35] saw something on phorge about that [02:27:55] is that not https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14325 [02:38:09] Have found something [02:38:09] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/6126 [02:38:12] Correctly? [02:39:53] Have found something [02:39:55] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/6126 [02:39:56] Correctly? [02:43:37] We've became... basic users™! RIP the neat header image, too. [02:48:59] Isn’t that managed via ManageWiki? [02:51:36] I just saw that too! However, it's the same on another wiki! [03:30:15] +monobook? [03:31:41] [1/2] i've been setting like these bc i really have never seen wikis using them [03:31:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1421338482584064051/Screenshot_2025-09-27-11-30-50-351_mark.via-edit.jpg?ex=68d8ac1d&is=68d75a9d&hm=152b2316452188996a3341a4211e3c96e39c01d6b8b98075412aad09bfb00b9a& [03:32:03] but i did see some wikis enjoying monobook [03:32:27] interesting thing is that modern actually means outdated [03:33:16] when i saw the skin's name for the first time on wp i really imagined how modern it could be [04:10:04] and now its outdated [04:56:41] All is right in the world now. [04:57:07] #tuff [04:58:25] Aww, yeah! [06:07:24] still no tag 😔 [06:22:55] TIL Left 4 Dead Wiki is now hosted here [06:22:59] that's awesome! [06:34:38] ikr [06:34:54] but they gonna have a hard time taking over fandom ceo [07:19:23] Dev-complete game, but passionate fanbase... it's possible. Uphill, but possible. [07:41:09] Hello, I am trying to make use of the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Popups](Popups) extension, tho I am running into a few as it doesn't display an image nor text despite the page having both, as a second question is it possible to force popups to use a specific text / image I can controll myself? [07:44:01] I think it's related to SEO iirc [07:44:04] i believe you need to edit page for preview to generate [07:44:47] Or nvm [07:44:51] forced data, maybe w/ wikiseo syntax [07:44:58] haven't tried myself [07:45:36] Could it be an issue with namespaces? I just noticed all pages in the default namespace show "There was an issue displaying this preview" anything outside of the default namespace shows nothing at all [07:46:15] you enabled textextraxt and pageimages beforehand? [07:46:34] yes [07:46:45] there are some settings as well, but sinc you already get a popup i suppose they're ok too [07:47:44] [1/2] you can check what it's supposed to show in Page information [07:47:44] [2/2] but usually it's either edit or wait some time to generate [07:48:43] I enabled the extension days ago /edited relevant pages multple times but put the issue on hold as it wasn't priority [08:10:44] can someone help me with making a miraheze for my roblox game [08:31:59] god forbid i say "fix it please" LOL [08:44:10] which kind of help? [08:46:45] lk js making the stuff in general [09:31:21] i mean, you already got the wiki created? made templates or some articles, planned categories, or nothing? [11:03:07] Try purging the page, iirc text extracts and page images doesn't run until the next Parser cycle - optionally I think there's a script we can run to force page images to generate [11:16:14] <90gq29> is there a way to redirect footer links without using redirects on the page? [11:16:48] <90gq29> i'm looking to not use Project:General_disclaimer and instead have it go to another page [11:17:55] <90gq29> nvm chatgpt got me [11:24:46] is that dali [11:58:06] i had a similar issue last week and the reason why the popup previews weren't showing up was because i had a

at the start of the previewed page (i used it to make the text smaller), when i deleted that it all showed up properly [11:58:22] oh and doing a null-edit of the previewed page also helped [11:58:28] maybe that can work for you [11:59:13] what is a null edit? just editing and saving without changves? [11:59:21] yep [12:00:14] alright ill give it a shot thanks [14:45:52] [1/4] does anyone know a good solution to trying to test an image in css? [14:45:52] [2/4] i cant use an external link as the CORS blocks it, even if im writing client side CSS [14:45:52] [3/4] and i cant upload the image to the wiki until its finished, because it takes ages for it to recache each time [14:45:53] [4/4] lmk if this makes sense, LOL. im trying to test a custom image used for a background on an element and im not sure the best way to go about it [14:47:11] do it like i do and just upload each image seperately [14:47:19] :emote_ANGUISH: [14:47:34] i am NOT waiting for the image cache [14:47:40] i guess i can give them dummy names and then delete when done [14:47:52] annoying that CORS applies to client side too [14:47:52] fancy [14:48:01] i dont even delete the leftovers [14:48:03] Does anyone has an access to deleted pages and/or sites without archive.org since it doesn't put everything (i.e. last edit before deleted)? [14:48:24] if you restore the page i think it restores its history? [14:48:28] but im not 100% [14:48:43] only people who can delete pages can restore them [14:56:24] If it wasn’t deleted for copyright or safety concerns you could ask local staff to restore it as a subpage or something [15:08:49] I think there’s technically a separate permission but basically [15:09:42] pretty huge argument to be made that no one touches sysop rights and no one gives others than sysop delete rights [15:10:04] on average [15:28:39] Hey I wanted to ask how long it can take for a wiki to be accepted by a volunteer [15:30:19] It's normally faster at the weekend [15:37:49] Who is the local staff? [15:51:02] That depends on the wiki [15:55:25] yeah, the game is old, and I don't think there's anything new coming out from that franchise [15:56:07] unless they give a highlight to modding [15:56:10] idk [15:56:13] maybe [17:26:37] I mark pages that mention real-world political matters with a disclaimer for obvious reasons. [17:32:32] Okay cool [18:22:35] [1/3] I'll help the first 10 people interested on how to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 15% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram [18:22:35] [2/3] @leena_anderson [18:22:35] [3/3] Or Click /use the the telegram link on my bio [18:24:24] @Discord Moderators [18:24:50] damn it [18:24:54] hah [18:24:55] also hi Brandon [18:25:01] been a while [18:25:07] Thank you both [18:25:09] I beat all 3 of you and I’m still limited lol [18:25:16] And ye nice to see you @brandon.wm [18:25:24] 2* [18:25:24] Zppix: thank you to you too [18:25:41] likewise [18:25:48] i pop on when i’m pinged lol [20:45:16] does anyone know if miraheze has an extension or something like wikipedia where you can split the source editor with a live updater [20:45:27] or is that custom to there only [20:50:21] The live preview tool? [20:53:24] @kim_nakyoung wgWikiEditorRealtimePreview should be in ManageWiki [20:56:48] oh awesome!! how do i enable it? [20:57:19] Go to Special:ManageWiki/settings, find it, tick the box, press save [20:59:32] Oh thank you so much!! [20:59:52] That's so much easier than clicking preview every time [21:00:42] Yeah, I use it too. Should be default imo [21:00:43] I think it just needs a second to process [21:01:52] Ok it works now, thank you 🙏 [21:13:28] Can I use deleted wiki because I want to do research? (don't say Wayback Machine because they don't archive any page before it deleted) [21:15:22] there are chances that a backup of the entire wiki is stored on internet archive [21:15:34] but you'll have to unfurl it by yourself [21:15:52] oh well, okay [22:42:09] I seem to be having the same issue with AWB on totaltennis. I'm not sure if it's to do with last nights outage? [22:42:58] oh interesting the magic seems to have disappeared [22:43:18] we seem to have taken a trip to Oz. [22:43:33] try again [22:44:11] [1/2] it's still coming up with the same error [22:44:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1421628515354153012/Untitled.jpg?ex=68d9ba3a&is=68d868ba&hm=8a281e006e9156a854395ce85635af7c10d3fc013b411574ab45fb4c9ee45250& [22:52:25] err i'm gonna have to get back to you with this tomorrow [22:53:09] No worries, I don't need it immediately so thats fine [23:02:14] although as a reminder TLS 1.2 will be killed after october [23:07:26] Are there any easy to use alternatives for AWB? [23:10:38] depending on your use case, JWB [23:11:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joeytje50/JWB [23:12:02] I'll take a read, thankyou 🙂 [23:25:11] this is the exact message awb is giving another admin on the battle cats wiki. it's not happening for me at all [23:26:27] tell them to upgrade to windows 11 [23:27:19] also I think TLS 1.2 was vaporized for everyone a bit early but I gotta check that first [23:46:38] well the issue is still present on windows 11 [23:46:50] its not a win 10 issue its an AWB issue iirc [23:47:15] or does windows 11 use some different kind of http handler that uses TLS1.3 [23:47:17] awb works for me on windows 11 though [23:47:40] I looked it up and it seems like tls 1.3 isn't enabled by default on windows 10 [23:47:58] but it is enabled by default on windows 11 [23:48:37] [1/3] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/secauthn/protocols-in-tls-ssl--schannel-ssp- [23:48:37] [2/3] right two columns are tls 1.3 [23:48:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1421644731448033362/image.png?ex=68d9c954&is=68d877d4&hm=7c2157d8de254377f29887e1b5309a38588f7362e0b4a29218d95bedca9e38b9& [23:49:00] AWB has supported TLS1.3 for a while [23:49:01] this is why we don't use windows! [23:49:03] since like february [23:49:13] funny thing about AWB... [23:49:52] _insert shameless plug for my rewrite cross platform which I haven't finished_ [23:50:10] as long as it's not on fucking svn [23:52:07] in the big 25? never [23:52:24] when is a replacement for git coming... [23:53:01] whenever we get mediawiki 2 [23:53:05] probably [23:54:13] https://sourceforge.net/p/autowikibrowser/code/HEAD/tree/ :) [23:55:49] isn't that just mercurial [23:55:59] horrific [23:56:11] trying to navigate to implementation of some function? never