[00:32:34] I'll make sure to give you a ping once it's fixed, thanks for continuing to bear with us. [00:41:39] [1/4] @notaracham There were two requests for the same wiki. [00:41:40] [2/4] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/67338 [00:41:40] [3/4] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/67339 [00:41:40] [4/4] @mxGhos [00:45:30] As the [wiki was closed on Fandom](https://noveterre-200ht.fandom.com/wiki/Noveterre_200-HT_Wiki) I guess they both requested the same wiki at the same time. [01:34:09] Hello hellp [01:34:18] Just got my first wiki so I decided to pop on here [01:37:29] heya [01:47:57] welcome [02:25:35] hello, ho wcan I get in contact with stewards to be able to change the topic of a wiki [02:30:13] [[Steward requests/Miscellaneous]] would be the avenue [02:30:13]

[02:32:42] [1/2] is it suppose to look like this [02:32:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1427846619423969402/image.png?ex=68f0594a&is=68ef07ca&hm=8f159fc216e8c52c40c73d64d70bfce220438669797f4b03b0e3ff8d55601f40& [02:39:25] nvm I just fixed it [03:19:19] [1/2] hi um, our search is broken, i dont see anything about it. is anyone else having this problem? we have cirrus enabled [03:19:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1427858347918364672/image.png?ex=68f06436&is=68ef12b6&hm=834a3ea18795280a9aafc58cd5a987e7c884424f58b907e6a86dce9c01e64187& [03:19:29] the actual search bar works, as does autocomplete to specific pages, but not the search results [03:36:51] Whu oh [03:37:01] when did this start [03:37:02] hi pixl [03:37:06] uhh atleast a few hours ago [03:37:15] within the last 4 hours i think? i didnt use search before then so i cant tell [03:37:21] Hm, still on going? [03:37:30] indeed :( [03:37:42] you can test yourself, doesnt matter what i put or what search mode [03:38:31] Hmmmm, @blankeclair can you check the error here without a graylog ID? [03:39:00] meowing wiki [03:40:43] hi claire! [03:40:57] if anyone has any idea whats going on lmk LOL i need my multimedia search [03:41:35] will take that as a yes [03:42:29] Unexpected connection error communicating with Elasticsearch. Curl code: 60 [03:42:31] fucking christ [03:42:49] CURLE_PEER_FAILED_VERIFICATION (60): The remote server's SSL certificate or SSH fingerprint was deemed not OK. This error code has been unified with CURLE_SSL_CACERT since 7.62.0. Its previous value was 51. [03:43:20] Oooooooooh [03:43:36] Must be the same issue as mattermost [03:44:17] NOT OK ❌ [03:44:25] @blankeclair do you have access to restart NGINX [03:44:30] nope [03:44:45] lets be real bestie none of us are [03:44:46] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1006789349498699827/1427864720253390960 [03:44:54] except for me :3c [03:45:08] is this only happening to us or like everyone [03:45:34] every wiki w/ cirrussearch [03:45:51] ahhh ok [03:45:54] thank God im not uniquely cursed [03:45:59] thank you for the quick response at this hour LOL [03:46:12] just 2:46 pm for me :3 [03:46:20] 4am for me XD [03:46:25] lmeow [03:46:39] then again, i've gotten a response for electrolysis aftercare concerns at 9 pm my time [03:46:44] (it was ~6 pm for her) [03:49:43] LOL? [03:51:36] @tedkalashnikov fixed [03:52:02] thanks to the very epik voidwalker [03:54:35] THANK YOUUUU [03:54:45] :banheart: [03:59:14] my face zappies recovery go baddie [06:12:31] if someone made a page in their own wiki that has encyclopedic content and they realize it is wrong should they delete the page and move the content to another non miraheze wiki [07:50:08] They can, but they didn't have the delete permission by default so they can only delete the content, not history. [07:50:50] And if someone got the history = able to recover all the contents if they want to [08:09:04] well i'm an admin in my own wiki and i realize i kinda fumbled my wiki by putting encyclopedic stuff so i have to mass delete pages and move them outside miraheze [08:09:37] i kinda broke my own rule and i'm already deleting pages [08:09:43] oh, you are admin then it's fine to delete [08:09:56] the page was so damn forky [08:12:55] And i did something really stupid by importing wikipedia templates now theres a lot of fucking junk modules and maybe templates [08:12:55] @qawqa0417 Watch your language. [08:14:35] I think I've deleted all the wikipedia-ish pages and the mainspace pages are just stories and important text just like what it was intended [09:01:15] Congrats, and enjoy! [09:05:37] Please read [[Help:Infoboxes]] [09:05:37]

[09:06:00] And check [[:dev:]] [09:06:01]

[09:09:08] is it okay i deleted the few wikipedish page [09:10:14] it was drifting from the scope a bit since it's just text about a few languages related to the conlang [09:20:05] Ofcourse [11:10:37] on second thought is it okay to restart a wiki like moving most or all important content to a distinct wiki while having the old one shutdown [11:11:33] i assume it's too much content to delete on old place? [11:12:38] too much content that needs to be deleted while even deleted the wiki now feels off [11:12:57] especially when the few deleted pages look like unfinished wikipedia conlanged [11:13:15] i'm the only guy working on it [11:25:56] It's fine, I even did delete whole wiki and only keep some small parts that is worth to keep [11:37:38] The easiest thing to do (when it is not many pages to save) is to copy the content you want to save in to Notepad++ and then get your wiki reset. Then start again from scratch. [11:58:19] you can import several pages into xml (including templates and MediaWiki:), it's just you most likely will have to request import on Meta [11:59:08] after getting new wiki [12:26:13] [1/2] Hello, so I'm not even that new to wiki editing, but I have a question, how exactly can I change backgrounds (I assume there are backgrounds for both light and dark theme), the icon in the tab bar and generally the look of the wiki? [12:26:13] [2/2] Thanks in advance! ❤️: [12:28:28] -# Specifically speaking, I really really like to look of certain wikis (https://adren.miraheze.org/) (https://parkourreborn.wiki/), but obviously I do NOT want to copy them directly. [12:29:18] through .skin-theme-clientpref-day and .skin-theme-clientpref-night [12:29:39] so how exactly do I get there? [12:29:48] MediaWiki:Citizen.css [12:30:34] might help [12:31:21] Thanks. [12:46:25] There's also which I found very helpful [12:47:38] That page is empty when you first start the wiki, right? [12:47:43] Thanks. [13:01:10] yes [13:01:31] So everything needs to be put in by me, right? [13:01:33] That's fine. [13:01:46] Just making it more complicated for me. But I'm sure I'll figure it out. [13:03:25] it's always like this w/ CSS/JS and some other pages w/ MediaWiki: prefix, they are blank by default [13:34:39] Alright, so how would I add a background for both light and dark themes? [13:35:29] I just can't seem to figure it out. [13:45:48] [1/2] How to fixing Character Infobox template on the Strip Poker Night at the Inventory wiki? [13:45:49] [2/2] Is that portable infobox is now enabled on the Strip Poker Night at the Inventory wiki?? [14:06:09] pls provide your links [14:16:22] https://duckov.miraheze.org/ (if you meant me too) [14:27:07] Is that an among us [15:14:10] where can i request for a wiki to be rebooted free of old revisions [15:15:26] complete reset? make a [[Phorge]] ticket [15:15:27]

[16:00:45] are there any benefits to using dpl4 over making everything manually with lua modules parsers from one database module or maybe I am confusing the purpose of dpl4 in the first place [16:01:44] Enable portable infobox [16:04:46] [1/3] go to Special:ManageWiki/extensions [16:04:46] [2/3] find PortableInfobox [16:04:47] [3/3] you will see if it's enabled with ✓ [16:14:04] i think in the lua case the data can only be edited in the database module, but with dpl4 you can use the data that are stored on different pages [16:15:21] is there any way to see how many users on my wikis are using a certain skin/interface language? [16:16:15] i think i don't want to spend time doing styling or i18n that no one would actually see anymore [16:16:50] best returns me something similar to gadgetusage [16:51:53] [1/2] You can take a look at [our wiki's CSS]() for a top header to get a general idea. (The CSS won't be the same, since I'm not targeting the page background here, but the same principles apply.) For light mode, set it via CSS normally. For dark mode, there are two ways to handle it (as desc [16:51:53] [2/2] ribed in the [Meta essay sent previously]()) and you'll have to set your dark mode background for each handler. [16:56:57] Heya, question. I don't get how I change the favicon, do I just put in the link like for `$wglogo`? [17:01:45] Are you talking about the icon that appears in a browser tab or the icon that appears in the top left of the Vector skin? [17:02:03] Browser Tab [17:02:57] [1/2] It's `$wgFavicon` [17:02:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1428065626773262447/image.png?ex=68f12541&is=68efd3c1&hm=1386fe9a2cb09a4d536da5521222e21d2c007c7ba3af251448ab73998b276f9c& [17:24:52] Alright figured it out [17:24:54] Thanks [17:25:22] My issue was that I didn't put the original file link, rather just the file link. [17:58:39] <.hedwiga> [1/2] why are multiple bot-like accounts appearing on my wiki with absoluetly no activity [17:58:39] <.hedwiga> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1428079639921688586/image.png?ex=68f1324e&is=68efe0ce&hm=8b63c98cda2376fc4cbda22daef5eae61e7c5cc7a865a5d6d02681ef6920c611& [17:59:44] very common occurrence, a tad annoying, but they stay harmless in the end [18:00:25] <.hedwiga> a but frustrating too because why they are appearing, definetly not to read my crappy articles [18:00:36] <.hedwiga> nor edit them [18:01:04] <.hedwiga> or do anything else for the wiki [18:03:24] feel ya [18:16:44] How do you have it so that trying to create a meta page doesn't redirect to meta.miraheze.org [18:17:50] Like say I have example.miraheze.org/Meta and I try to create a subpage called Meta:Issues, it'll redirect to meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Issues [18:17:56] is it impossible? [18:18:22] subpage is `/`. Meta/Issues [18:18:51] I mean I was able to do it for other categories. Meta is the only thing that triggers this [18:19:23] like if I were to do Book:Issues no redirect would happen and I'd be able to create the page just fine lol [18:19:32] idk if local interwiki rules overwrite the default ones. try adding meta to interwiki rules again but don't forward it? [18:19:57] sorry, how does one do that again if you don't mind me asking [18:20:50] oh local interwiki overwrites global ones [18:21:10] so you can do it in your wiki's Special:Interwiki/add if you have the right [18:22:19] [1/2] it seems I don't lol (I'm the owner of the wiki so I'm guessing it's an admin thing) [18:22:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1428085597381066833/image.png?ex=68f137da&is=68efe65a&hm=b6534223464affbb3649fc462a26dbecff8eb0972ce06405e00a3ce37a790eed& [18:24:04] might need to give yourself the interwiki right if your wiki was made a while ago [18:25:55] [1/2] would it be from here? [18:25:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1428086503711441046/image.png?ex=68f138b3&is=68efe733&hm=04b064b292b8df04f1345aa69cdab6e04e039fcdbd89907a647529d41b6870f8& [18:26:24] no, from Special:ManageWiki/permissions [18:32:10] [1/2] hmm [18:32:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1428088078135857182/image.png?ex=68f13a2a&is=68efe8aa&hm=17949da31b5653329f6fc062ec3e7f9c06ae8d2f66398572a6a71e449f4ee73a& [18:41:50] yes it now doesn't redirect to meta [18:42:22] ||still not editable tho|| [18:44:40] so seems it's possible to rewrite a global interwiki rule, but not possible to clear it? [18:45:03] what would happen if an empty local rule is added [19:44:39] Like just make an interwiki page but don't specify anything? [21:28:47] Where find Portable Infobox is that? [22:03:41] [22:26:31] [1/2] is there a way to color the background of a header in a wikitable [22:26:31] [2/2] using the usual style background color etc doesnt do anything, that only works with cells [23:02:52] [1/5] I think with DPL4 you would be able to get data directly from the relevant pages, but with a Lua module if something changes for the subject of one page you'd have to update both the page and the data that the Lua module is using [23:02:52] [2/5] For example if you had a bunch of images relevant to one article, and the images were named something like `File:PAGENAME 00.png` then you could use a DPL query to just get all the images that look like that and display them all. Then, if you wanted to add a new image to the gallery, you would only need to upload the file and it would automatically be added to [23:02:52] [3/5] the page. [23:02:53] [4/5] Using a database module, you might get something like [Cats/names.csv](https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Cats/names.csv), where it's fairly obvious when this page needs to be updated, and all moderators and admins know this page exists and it's never going to silently fail if something is done wrong. [23:02:53] [5/5] They have different use cases and advantages/disadvantages. a database module means another page that needs to be updated when data is updated, but it's also always in a predictable format and it's all in one place [23:06:16] [1/3] Well, the cases you provided can be still covered with lua [23:06:17] [2/3] The only real advantage I see is that its easier for regular users to edit pages without having to know about all the datamodule pages ') [23:06:17] [3/3] Thx anyways [23:09:15] [1/3] yeah basically [23:09:16] [2/3] So if it's something you can do automatically, it's probably much easier to use a data module page [23:09:16] [3/3] If it's something where it's realistic that a random user would be changing this information or adding in something new, DPL4's probably easier [23:27:02] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/data [23:27:03] [2/2] Your main options are DPL4, Cargo, and Lua. I wouldn't recommend SMW considering the state it is in. @thewwrnerdguy has explained the pros and cons of Lua pretty well.