[00:18:13] oh thank god its been slow for others as well [01:04:17] hi all, I like miraheze but damn the UI is so confusing, how do you even make someone an admin? I click their name but it just makes a user page? so how exactly do you edit their roles [01:06:19] Special:UserRights, and if you click their name there should be a link on the side titled "Change user groups", which will lead to the same special page. [01:07:02] I see thank you [01:07:15] also, how do I roll back ALL changes a user made? [01:07:26] I dont see a rollback option anywhere in the UI [01:07:30] Special:Nuke oughta do it [01:08:22] I dont know what that means [01:09:43] [1/2] it's a page, you can just type it into search [01:09:43] [2/2] but in this case nuke wont actually help you [01:09:45] lemme check [01:10:03] im surprised there isnt just a button beside the user's name [01:10:05] The UI doesn't support a rollback all changes feature by itself [01:11:08] There are ways to do it, but it is a separate script that has to be installed, since it wasn't something the software we use was designed for alas [01:11:45] Is this a specific one off case you need done or a general question/ [01:12:13] well someone came in and overwritten most of the pages [01:12:29] I just want to remove all the changes they did [01:13:31] i think the easiest way is to just to have me run a maintenance script [01:13:43] for that I'll need you to #verify and link me the user on your wiki [01:13:51] what would that do [01:13:55] rollback all their edits [01:14:10] I cant just do that on my own? I literally made the wiki [01:14:42] no since you don't have access to the server and all the fancy scripts it hides [01:14:45] I can do it [01:15:07] no, mine, hissssssssssssssssssssssss [01:15:19] :3 [01:15:35] @renoki I can give you a script that does what you need and show you how to use it, or do it myself for ya [01:19:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437250173209415831/image.png?ex=69128f08&is=69113d88&hm=966ca5350eff8292a488631246fabe1757072c8e340c46f7c202af67b2319aa1& [01:19:11] so why does this change have a rollback function [01:19:14] but others dont [01:19:29] im trying to make sense of this [01:21:21] because it's the latest change in a page afaik [01:23:19] ok im fine now, I was able to find a rollback button after stumbling my way around the odd UI [01:23:29] what odd UI? [01:23:53] so turns out you have to go to Recent Changes, then click Contribs beside his name [01:24:12] Mediawiki [01:24:13] THEN theres a rollback button, but for some reason it doesnt rollback all his changes, just a very specific change for some reason [01:24:25] Only the latest change has a rollback link [01:24:33] they all should [01:24:56] i'm pretty sure it would mess up things [01:25:19] if some random greifer comes in and changes everything then im pretty screwed [01:25:40] you could use the moderation extension [01:25:48] At max each change that would be rolledback. Rollback reverts the page back to the last edit by a different user [01:26:02] Hence why not every did shows the button. [01:26:04] does that add proper rollbacks? [01:26:17] no it just makes it so edits have to be reviewed by a mod [01:26:20] No, it sends edits by untrusted users to a queue [01:26:26] ah I see [01:26:27] that [01:26:33] There is a way to add a mass rollback link [01:26:34] probably worth me setting that on [01:26:37] As I mentioned [01:26:50] I’ll send a screenshot when my laptop stops being freaky [01:27:08] appreciate the help though, im just frustrated at the UI, ty [01:27:12] . [01:27:18] I don’t blame you [01:27:33] mediawiki try not to be confusing challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) [01:28:03] I find wikia way easier to use but I hate ads so I refuse to use it [01:28:07] Barebone mediawiki like we offer is very confusing at times and is know for having a learning curve in exchange for its flexibility [01:29:13] FANDOM offers much less in features and customizability, but the abstractions are much better for being user friendly [01:29:18] For admins especially [01:29:20] yea [01:29:33] Though ironically I’m pretty sure FANDOM may have the same issue with rollback [01:29:35] fandom after making you have to contact them just to make a new namespace [01:29:38] I don’t think they change that [01:29:43] Exactly [01:29:46] I see [01:29:56] To be fair that’s a miraheze exclusive thing kinda [01:30:00] [1/2] i8'm gonna kill Someone [01:30:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437252925750640772/image.png?ex=69129198&is=69114018&hm=a31e87b4ed3c445615dcd00512505f6f6c874f177e4dbcf8bf9032dbb66e7d3f& [01:30:07] wiki.gg also doesn’t have a lot of the things we do [01:30:08] Where are my icons... [01:30:13] Strike [01:30:15] You will wait one day for a minor adjustment to your JS to be approved, and you will like it :irl_george: [01:30:45] So, would you like assistance in mass rolling back the edits? [01:31:40] no its ok for now thank you [01:31:58] Bet [01:32:05] Let us know if you need anything [01:32:10] ty I really appreciate it [01:32:18] gonna read more of the guide pages [01:34:25] At least in the case of JS I can understand it (due to how easy it is to fuck things up), but you really do have to make a support ticket for basically everything 🥀 [01:34:26] the servers this week have going rouge [01:34:54] roughe?? [01:34:56] i forgot the word [01:35:08] Feel free to ask as well since there will always be gaps in written documentation [01:35:27] ty [01:35:52] rogue [01:36:04] Toooooooo be fair, when was the last time anyone saw a :notdone: Not done on [[SR/RC]] [01:36:05]

[01:36:21] (Though that may change soon) [01:36:38] (never cause smallam just started using miraheze like, now) [01:39:55] :hmmm: [01:40:08] I said anyone [01:40:21] I was gonna write you actually but [01:40:36] https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721 [01:43:26] Yeah I'm having a stroke looking through the menu for additional settings, will get used to it eventually though [01:48:54] I think my biggest issue is that I cant click on someone's name to change their settings, instead it makes a page.. of them. why would I ever need to do that lol [01:49:57] instead I have to do the workaround of clicking recent changes, then click their contribs, THEN setting them [01:50:45] It makes sense once you're used to it I promise lol [01:51:11] I just hit cancel, then the tools drop down, and then whatever settings [01:51:49] The system of user pages/profiles [01:57:47] you' WILL enjoy it, LIKE it, and gives a THUMBS up [01:59:40] MediaWiki ™ [02:27:52] i can't log into miraheze, is there something wrong with it? [02:28:09] i was trying to edit something but it said there was an expired session and it told me to log out and log back in, but now it wont let me log in [02:29:42] what's it saying [02:30:07] no active login attempt is in progress for your session [02:31:33] clear your cache and cookies [02:31:59] if that doesn't work then you get to do a magic trick in the form of logging in on meta.miraheze.org and logging out [02:50:23] why dont you just do that right away [02:50:56] cause its the first option in a more annoying way [03:01:03] [1/2] I hate when templates do this 😔 why must they hate [03:01:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437275836733460490/image.png?ex=6912a6ee&is=6911556e&hm=111adc0372aaae62300c279ff039211196b99c0e7d4eb8af2fc2e77f7ea96f91& [03:02:06] no they hate newlines and ifs [03:07:21] Perhaps it is the usage of `#switch` then [03:09:24] Suppose I should try and find an alternative then [03:12:40] fandom answers 0 out of all my tickets [03:12:56] [1/2] no. there's a reason why a lot of wp templates are huge oneliners or why ours look like this [03:12:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437278825707868160/image.png?ex=6912a9b7&is=69115837&hm=db4110cc01b77e7f863bacb0a393cd4677aa22eb2f2dc851a88ddd1d04723c5d& [03:13:17] including bot application, woff2 format application etc [03:13:46] miraheze 1) allows local sysops to do these directly 2) has phorge where tickets can get tracked [03:13:50] much more advanced [03:16:00] My experiences as a user and local staff with fandom support have been nearly always positive [03:16:32] that's interesting [03:16:41] Yeah I never have an issue with fandom staff, they're chill af. Unless it's a time where they're not working, they're usually pretty fast as well [03:16:48] one of the few things they do really well imo [03:16:59] i had to ask one admin who has a bot account to help me perform bulk actions [03:17:04] to avoid flooding rc [03:17:22] Mhm [03:17:30] We love George ✊ [03:17:46] they never approved my application for a bot account and i wasn't able to own a bot account until we moved to miraheze [03:18:00] no approve and no reply [03:18:25] human support team that (usually) responds quickly in 2025 🥹 [03:18:26] tried 3 or 4 times from 2019 to 2024 [03:19:15] 🙂‍↕️ [03:19:24] That’s interesting [03:19:56] application to enable woff2 format is also ignored, tho their community central article says it's on demand by a ticket [03:20:18] managewiki is the greatest ever invention across all wiki farms [03:26:36] oh dpl is also described as such. continuous failure made me even give up the idea of making fandom a ticket [03:26:42] definitely [03:42:03] [1/2] Ah. I took it to mean them separately instead of at the same time whoops [03:42:03] [2/2] Apologies I'm tired, allergies have worn me out [03:44:05] Ty for the help tho [04:55:51] [1/2] so I have a box with a BUNCHHHH of tabbers and I was wondering how to make them stack instead of continuing on in one long line? [04:55:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437304729460801628/image.png?ex=6912c1d7&is=69117057&hm=ccf46f526b7ee4515ca6c0cd7a8a59bec7656faccce250edbf0740ef92ec0672& [05:23:04] [1/2] who's hogging all the resources on db171 [05:23:04] [2/2] (jk) 😭 [05:26:40] [1/6] try [05:26:41] [2/6] ```css [05:26:41] [3/6] .tabber__tabs{ [05:26:41] [4/6] flex-wrap: wrap; [05:26:42] [5/6] } [05:26:42] [6/6] `` [05:27:18] [1/2] seems to work ok when I tested 🙂 [05:27:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437312644896915559/image.png?ex=6912c936&is=691177b6&hm=07f6b4099184182c2bcee9846bae83c8e4378f774a9607dbcca97e6879cb0236& [05:29:53] ohhh cool! would I just put that in the css page then? [05:30:36] yes (and then wait a good 10 minutes 😭 ) [05:31:11] but sometimes stuff in there doesnt apply so we have to do !important on the rule to force it so we will see [05:32:09] mhmhm! thank you v much! [05:57:55] [1/2] IT WORKED!! [05:57:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437320347358593174/image.png?ex=6912d062&is=69117ee2&hm=5d1dc59e4522e572f3889f63e0604ca9ed615c2052156e4ef699b5244ee8e3d4& [06:02:55] add ?debug=2 to the url [06:03:12] wait... you mean ive waisted 10 hours of my life waiting for cache to clear? 😭 [06:03:23] that looks great! [06:06:09] i mean you could've also been using your personal css to see changes immediately but yeah [06:06:26] db171 must really be strugging. was a good 40 seconds for an edit webhook to show [06:57:00] yeah it's had issues for a day or two [08:56:37] has anyone ever tried making a 1:1 recreation of fandom's oasis? [09:08:25] I think the last time it was suggested, they were told don't look back in anger. [09:44:40] Same for 181 I guess [09:44:53] Miraheze is slow this morning (UTC) [10:02:06] am i doing something wrong? mirahaze is saving very slowly for me today [10:02:15] oh [10:02:16] nvm [10:02:23] i see its a issue for other people too [11:30:18] [1/2] updates were taking a while to go through and we got this, should we be worried? [11:30:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1437403997219586088/image.png?ex=69131e4a&is=6911ccca&hm=6ae24b87cc15d268fbad7678e104221c225754c8fb70037404009d5fd25e9e39& [11:31:19] Just try and save any submissions, just while the servers being difficult. [11:32:10] will do thanks [11:40:17] Can’t wait to get home and nerd out [11:40:21] 💔 [11:50:06] bad gateway <3 [11:56:51] I keep getting bad gateway too [11:57:58] me too [11:58:19] https://tenor.com/view/red-alerts-gif-17500883102560697857 [11:58:20] same [12:00:36] It seems to have fixed itself [14:09:16] Is it down? [14:09:35] No [14:55:08] depends on who's reading it. I once requested something from the "wiki representative" but they didn't do anything despite me reminding them for a while, then I emailed support and they fixed it within like 2 days [15:10:29] steam [15:10:41] god bless gaben [15:16:29] https://tenor.com/view/gaben-steam-steam-sale-discounts-lord-gaben-gif-5466782 [16:02:12] real [17:17:36] god [17:48:54] hello 👋 [17:52:36] Hej 👋🏻 [17:53:27] Hoi a:wave: [17:56:41] Ja doei! [18:55:58]