[00:40:10] [1/2] can we add the domain to csp [00:40:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438689934624952350/image.png?ex=6917cbe9&is=69167a69&hm=e7e848aaa50174493702f0c46278ca90e2f5f6d16162781366d34534b4f902a9& [00:41:14] seems like db161 is down [00:41:55] :slugimjust: [00:42:44] or put the js on dev bc the template and module are also on dev [00:43:28] uhh [00:43:37] :beforreal: [00:43:43] miraheze might be down? [00:43:51] same [00:43:55] It's down for me too [00:43:56] https://tenor.com/3K7V.gif [00:44:00] yep tis down [00:44:02] does it save progress if i was mid edit [00:44:07] because i just did a lot of work and didnt save [00:44:11] Explosion [00:44:13] don't close it [00:44:16] oh boy i sure hope my edits didn't go away haha [00:44:47] Apparently you need to setup on your own settings to keep them in cache, I really think this should be a default feature 👀 [00:46:59] one of our engineers did indeed do an emergency restart on one of the db servers [00:47:02] Explooded? [00:47:08] should be just a sec [00:47:22] back [00:47:34] [1/2] Great work team [00:47:34] [2/2] Cookie to share: 🍪 [00:49:24] <3 [00:49:26] Amazing work. I joined the server to see if it was down for everyone and you all fixed it instantly [00:51:32] [1/3] to specify: [00:51:33] [2/3] - `mw.loader.load('https://strinova.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tab.js?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');` triggers csp [00:51:33] [3/3] - `mw.loader.load('https://strinova.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tab.js?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');` seems to give an extra BadMethodCallException and then triggers csp [00:57:55] nvm. `mw.loader.load('https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lihaohong6/MirahezeDevScripts@master/gadgets/Tab/index.js');` works [02:01:47] does miraheze have some sort of "customization policy"? [02:02:18] not really [02:02:38] from what i know its just [02:03:15] "at least have the footers have an applicable icon, dont do anything that risks security" [02:03:25] send link? [02:04:31] i dont think theres a page yet [02:04:42] what i said are just basic unspoken rules [02:05:32] Yeah afaik as well there is no formal policy [02:06:39] i think there are skins without footer icon [02:06:47] so maybe it's not a must [02:08:00] It boils down to just be reasonable [02:08:08] iirc monaco doesn't have it [02:08:25] probably cause it's a fork from fandom [02:09:41] Also don't put ads on your wiki [02:09:46] That's a great way to get evicted [02:10:43] i think that's common sense [02:10:59] YOU WOULD THINK, AND YET.... 🤣 [02:11:05] The things Stewards have seen. [02:12:02] ☠️ [02:12:23] I think the 'you must pay to create a page on our wiki hosted by miraheze' was the most brazen misuse of our service so far. [02:13:11] That's insane omg [02:14:07] would removing the footer icons in minerva break any of the, well, unspoken customization policy [02:14:41] hmm maybe we should have an rfc about a customisation policy [02:15:18] would be pretty small so i think it's better to add them on one of the existing policies [02:16:46] i think it would be good on the content policy [02:40:10] No, I believe the only thing we require is a link to our terms of use and privacy policy [02:43:40] even donate can be removed? [02:47:12] While it could, we'd prefer you not [02:51:06] the servers can sense when you're being mean to them, and trust me, you dont want that.... [02:58:35] no not even trying. just literally translating only ToU and PP are required [02:59:55] they will personally cast upon the horrific cascade my wiki once went through [03:01:17] Unforeseen Consequences ahh level [03:06:32] lmfao yeah [03:07:25] i still cant get over how a redirect became a file description calling for a character page and the british flag [03:10:16] like damn it mustve fucked up real bad for that to happen [04:42:12] ported the navbox from the dev wiki but its telling me to import the css for it now ☹️ [04:43:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438751051129032725/IMG_3145.png?ex=691804d5&is=6916b355&hm=0e3ff73132f83b21aaa6bc2784eceed782ea8b6cba8b99737f615fcd665b2c68& [04:47:33] [1/2] Follow the instructions here. If you log in to dev you can also import all dependencies in one click, though you may end up with a bunch of extra stuff. [04:47:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438752189458812980/image.png?ex=691805e4&is=6916b464&hm=5cd24a7fa4574ae438169d979b620de4259e110e065cb0b92ff12dbcb8b7c193& [04:48:17] thanks [04:49:10] [1/2] now i realize [04:49:10] [2/2] i really dont read ☹️ [05:07:40] anyone else not being able to log in> [05:07:47] what error [05:07:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438757303506436106/image.png?ex=69180aa7&is=6916b927&hm=d760abf644e31802ab171ed8143365f7833dbcf1f0d2e40c1c09bed8cbcd07dd& [05:08:01] i tried the logging out of meta thing [05:08:54] Clear and purge your cache and cookies for the site [05:10:28] nope [05:12:15] do it all in the same tab [05:13:25] [1/2] also this is at the end [05:13:25] [2/2] ?centralAuthAutologinTried=1¢ralAuthError=Account+on+central+wiki+is+not+attached+%28this+shouldn%27t+happen%29 [05:13:49] and nope [05:14:09] idk atp just use a different browser [05:16:25] thats kinda funny [05:16:30] whats your username [05:16:39] I can try and see if I can fix it [05:32:13] ello yello fellos [05:32:57] crystalite13 [08:44:12] is there any way to get the current page's latest revid? `{{REVISIONID}}` doesn't work bc miser mode is on [09:58:13] does any other wiki here use labeled transclusions with #lsth? the transclusions disappear from our wiki and im trying to figure out if its on our end or the extension itself [10:23:33] [[mh:dev:]] does I believe [10:23:34]

[10:28:04] Not sure [14:14:16] ive seen lst used there now, and they also use dpl [14:14:24] no lsth [14:14:45] Oh hey so what's RCMaxAge exactly? I saw Paladox changing it on AVID to experiment with some kind of database issue apparently? [14:15:07] Don't have an issue with it dw, just curious [14:20:01] It's the maximum age of recent changes entries; once entries reach this age, they are purged from the table [14:20:19] It was changed from 6 months to 1 month [14:20:46] This doesn't make any practical difference as there are more than enough edits in avid that edits older than one month wouldn't be shown at Special:RC anyway [15:15:43] since there is a communities wiki, what will happen to https://wikis.miraheze.org? [15:16:37] ahem nevermind [15:19:33] huh [15:21:36] communities is exclusively about Miraheze wikis [15:22:05] this one aims to be more broad [15:22:21] ohhh [15:54:53] [1/3] i'm trying to put a mp4 file on the gallery, but it won't resize [15:54:54] [2/3] is this intended? would my only option to add in a separate gallery? [15:54:54] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438920132008214588/image.png?ex=6918a24d&is=691750cd&hm=231e2eff2e6d8fb17e74ab5863165acfb8c11bcecce447b695cc85bed6b7493c& [15:55:48] gallery tag is `````` [16:01:43] how do you edit something site-wide? [16:01:48] like the navbar for exmaple [16:02:06] [1/2] Works normally for me, I think you need EmbedVideo extension [16:02:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438921947743522926/image.png?ex=6918a3fe&is=6917527e&hm=55c9d0290203099bbd09b3bf41979ea6039fb472b95d85183b478cec56510151& [16:03:30] Do you mean MediaWiki:Sidebar? [16:10:09] [1/3] we do hate it, i'm afraid it might be a problem of the video itself :xsob: [16:10:09] [2/3] what is the size of your videos? [16:10:09] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438923971356659915/image.png?ex=6918a5e0&is=69175460&hm=37855e3688997c7c04c7b261d6ab61be795a59b998dbe6d6855d50c1f8258185& [16:10:19] 1080p [16:10:35] Enable it in extension setting [16:10:47] by default that thing isn't enabled [16:10:53] [1/2] the big one is 1980p from the same creator of the first screenshot, there is other 2 mp4 on the same gallery and they properly work [16:10:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438924158305173605/image.png?ex=6918a60d&is=6917548d&hm=f7c10dd5f49e245769bf2882f5744cc70fc793e1c6d90a1b255d65c56b84b7b3& [16:11:42] i'm not a bureaucrat, but it's enabled already [16:11:55] i think so, im using the citizen skin and i wanna make the top bar floating [16:13:28] or at least give it like a glass effect almost [16:17:08] 90% things to do w/ the look is CSS [16:18:22] changing CSS usually involves poking around the page w/ browser's element inspector and putting changes into CSS pages, in this case MediaWiki:Citizen.css [16:25:21] Aounds like youe looking at editing MediaWiki:Commos.css or similar skin pages to me [16:30:30] ok tyy [16:38:49] im pretty sure this is it [16:45:09] Link to the page? Note that you need to #verify first to send links. [16:58:21] here https://www.sekaipedia.org/wiki/Kamishiro_Rui/Gallery#2DMV_Illustrations [16:59:23] [1/3] What are ways of creating a "skill tree" graphic inside the wiki, specifically with clickable links? [16:59:23] [2/3] I've created a draw.io diagram, exported it as .svg (attached), and the upload gave me an error about the xHTML being not permitted (I already looked into that one and couldn't find a solution myself). [16:59:23] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438936361678671912/Skill_Trees.drawio.svg?ex=6918b16a&is=69175fea&hm=c5ad88acd64554b5d068617cd19d82770d0a129b8c48b48e88d90eae862e7b8e& [17:06:47] hmmmmm [17:06:52] is it possible to deactivate the light mode theme in minerva? [17:07:20] can you show a pic of it, not svg? [17:07:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438938461133344828/Skill_Trees.drawio.png?ex=6918b35f&is=691761df&hm=72fe0658a3ac372d6072dd04184b9cb5c34d6209b46eec2d5c01e743b4e1644f& [17:08:18] Naturally, it would be nice to click on the nodes and get redirected to the relevant page [17:09:47] [1/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Tree_chart [17:09:47] [2/2] I found this as well, but I doubt that it can accurately represent diagonally intersecting arrows... [17:11:57] my first thought is use image as bg and overlay it table w/ links ... but this is formatting nightmare [17:12:18] This method or this skill tree specifically? ^^ [17:12:26] method [17:13:02] i don't remember how ru borderlands wiki made skill trees [17:13:25] but they mamaged to replicate game ui [17:13:51] Yeah that would be the best case scenario pretty much ^^ [17:15:27] Oh I forgot that the huge video looks like you put it outside of other galleries [17:17:16] [1/2] The packed resize based on number of images/videos, [17:17:17] [2/2] If you put only a single video, it will have buggy size like that [17:17:19] [1/2] Other solution is to replicate this, which is pretty much also just a table (Google Sheets) [17:17:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438940876448464896/image.png?ex=6918b59f&is=6917641f&hm=ba4b2925773009e5978d2721c0a991b4dc40a2fea1508a23dfe072f09cf40f94& [17:17:57] But I admit, it could be prettier XD [17:18:13] Or: "More elegant" [17:23:42] I would worry that it wouldn't render well on mobile [17:23:48] :Thinkeng: [17:24:34] That is valid, though there isn't much of a focus on mobile for my project, or for the part which includes the skill tree at least [17:26:27] fair tbh [17:37:09] Why does Vector 2022 look so bad on mobile? I cannot see stuff very well on WIkipedia desktop mode when I use a mobile sim [17:39:51] [1/2] What does it look like? do you have a screenshot of that? [17:39:51] [2/2] Also the Vector skin isn't mobile optimized [17:39:51] because it wasnt made for mobile [17:39:56] thats why theres minerva [17:49:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438948911451734117/Screenshot_from_2025-11-14_17-49-06.png?ex=6918bd1a&is=69176b9a&hm=dfeb648dbe50368368df4502b1d70f640654fd924e3ac900405bfe385cec94a1& [17:49:41] Oh [17:50:24] Yea that skin is crap as wikipedia use minerva for mobile [17:52:10] I use Minerva for mobile too - copied Wikipedia's set up with that regard [17:52:11] Bug reported https://github.com/StarCitizenWiki/mediawiki-extensions-EmbedVideo/issues/148 [17:53:44] MobileFrontend messes with Vector 2022 and prevents it from functioning normally. Try https://strinova.org/wiki/Main_Page or https://dappervolk.miraheze.org/wiki/Dappervolk [17:53:57] [1/2] Looks good to me [17:53:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438950093402411141/Screenshot_20251115_005321_Firefox.jpg?ex=6918be34&is=69176cb4&hm=ed13f2cb221460a5678fd807cbc0718682470cf60d146313e307789954540bb8& [17:54:23] thank you, petra!! [17:57:59] [1/2] Still looks bad [17:57:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438951109304520856/Screenshot_from_2025-11-14_17-57-50.png?ex=6918bf26&is=69176da6&hm=644b35ff97b54273dc4c01c09fa2521713e9c24d06e81c6927ebaf57fc29b49d& [17:58:15] Yoo [17:59:49] [1/2] I disabled mobile frontend and my wiki still looks bad [17:59:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438951572699742239/Screenshot_from_2025-11-14_17-59-35.png?ex=6918bf95&is=69176e15&hm=3679aa7a1780bdfcb826dad95dc7fd7bfba8e7ef5596726908ad78f72da331ce& [17:59:55] because its minerva [18:00:11] yes because vector 2022 isnt made for mobile in mind [18:00:45] [1/2] THis wiki looks good [18:00:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438951807261872279/Screenshot_from_2025-11-14_18-00-28.png?ex=6918bfcd&is=69176e4d&hm=560d20ce1f396c3e47236360cfd9b6050527314877afa477c3f441099e8f9e1e& [18:01:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438951971846357042/Screenshot_from_2025-11-14_18-01-17.png?ex=6918bff4&is=69176e74&hm=0fd0c4fca07f01384c49e2a5c5a3d88a4152611a8e7944a203b851d88e13f441& [18:01:55] Is Json a good syntax? [18:02:06] I disabled MobileFrontend, same error/look [18:02:20] for what? [18:02:46] it might be used by some extension, but it's not what goes for making wiki articles [18:03:24] for making a language [18:03:46] how it's related to miraheze? [18:04:05] idk, this is not the main chat? [18:05:46] Try the usual tricks for caching, or view it on a real mobile device [18:07:55] main chat is reserved for miraheze related discussions and support, there's offtopic channel otherwise (idk how irc works) [18:08:42] real device = shows desktop skin. Catching, no change [18:11:52] [1/2] Works fine on my end (Chrome's mobile device simulator). [18:11:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1438954604271501472/image.png?ex=6918c268&is=691770e8&hm=94c4f0b94e2ee7fbde7f37c2077c575e7a3e2147a743c5fd72ea5281a027ad39& [18:12:03] Also, I just noticed that the wiki is not hosted on Miraheze... [18:12:30] Not on my smartphone or sim (I turned mobile frontend back on) [18:13:19] lol [18:15:11] How do I temporary disable css? [18:16:23] `?safemode=1` [18:16:26]