[00:28:25] @pixldev problem is still persisting (my login problem) should i just switch browers [00:29:47] Probably yes, I can’t see anything of the problem on meta and can’t investigate a private wiki [01:07:44] Anyone know any social media account that promotes wikis outside Fandom? We really need something like this to let people know there are alternatives [01:12:35] I think we may try to block some OpenAI stuff generally just they still get data [01:12:44] This is more performance [01:13:03] @rhinosf1 could tell you the current stance on full and partial scraper blocks [01:20:20] idk about wiki promo accounts but some people mention their wikis on the subreddit for the topic [01:30:25] Already do this, but a popular Twitter account for promoting independent wikis would be game changer [01:32:54] the issue is the popular part. I don't think there's that many peoplr who just want to know about new independent wikis in general [01:33:19] people have their individual fandom or whatever interests, then they look for a specific wiki for them [01:34:34] I'd be interested to know if something like that existed but it seems unlikely, at least at a meaningful level of popularity [01:35:49] Loads of people complain about Fandom on Twitter everyday. Yeah the acco7bt would need to start from zero, but it's something that miraheze could do on it's account for example [01:36:31] there's an extension called Indie Wiki Buddy or something [01:36:42] can inform them and they'll add yours to their list [01:37:20] it's for independent wikis where a fandom version exists [01:37:32] will redirect and replace google search results [01:38:02] they also have a full list you can browse through, not quite the same thing but yeah [01:40:05] Yeah, I've submitted mine but no answer so far. Still if miraheze could promote its own wikis like Fandom does, that would greatly help. People abandoning Fandom is only to grow more and more, and miraheze is the only real ad free non corporate option [01:47:04] Miraheze doesn't really have any setup or volunteers for promotional stuff and in-house is not quite in order if I'm being honest [01:47:25] we tend to focus on staying afloat and most else beyond that is sluggish [01:47:40] you can submit your wiki to miraheze monthly [01:47:59] which does mean the opportunity to step in, provided confidence in the candidate can be established, is bountiful [01:48:20] miraheze monthly is a lovely thing but only really useful to people within the miraheze ecosystem, and not for promoting it to people who don't know about it [01:52:32] Just automate posts promoting the wikis that sign-up for this on the main Twitter account [01:59:07] we have a bluesky account for good article feed to promote our move [04:52:01] [1/2] The wiki I help work on's search is broken due to CirusSearch. Is this okay to do until CirusSearch gets manually indexed by someone from tech team? or is this a huge no-no? [04:52:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439478089426931723/image.png?ex=691aa9f0&is=69195870&hm=acf17cea506ded893b9ac6f61f1442eec57e45772bce1af7fd717f93e57a8d3e& [04:52:30] (links to a cse.google.com search engine that searches only the wiki) [05:01:00] i don't think miraheze restricts where you link to [05:07:39] If that hangs on for more than a day, you'll want to file a ticket at issue-tracker.miraheze.org [05:08:20] But yes, that'll most likely require tech team assistance to complete [05:09:10] ah okay so should I delete #Search broken and just wait a day? My bad. I saw someone get help here for CirusSearch and didnt realiee it should have been on Issue Tracker [05:09:49] I would leave that up, the support forum channel is a great venue for that as well [05:09:55] thank you πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ [05:10:20] The reason I suggest phorge (issue-tracker) is because that's the tech team's official work venue [05:42:02] there's another earlier https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1436926851305181356/1438270999316398415 [05:51:16] hey so uhh [05:51:36] [1/2] apparently im able to reopen the wiki myself but [05:51:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439493084097548318/image.png?ex=691ab7e7&is=69196667&hm=61c27e5f69c72942a31676b55e3f5e336c3e25113a530da79319299348a2b187& [05:51:37] how...... [05:51:57] 😭 im confused [05:52:54] https://robloxrivals.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core [05:53:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439493466659881062/image.png?ex=691ab842&is=691966c2&hm=be770ca1e102621303fc21a93c151ed66fd3cf4009e8718ad7f59f4af1aecd1c& [05:53:10] i cant change them [05:53:22] huh, are you not logged in? [05:53:38] ooooops [05:53:43] it didnt save me being logged in [05:53:44] LOL thanks [05:53:46] oops [05:53:47] yw lol [05:54:15] now i gotta learn how to use miraheze [06:26:53] ChatGPT has been mostly blocked for a long time [06:29:55] are there any official miraheze tutorial videos [06:35:04] not any afaik [06:35:15] unless if someone surprises me lol [06:37:05] ALSO [06:37:09] i know when creating a wiki you can [06:37:12] fork from another wiki but [06:37:18] i had to use an already existing domain [06:37:22] is there a way to still fork from another wiki [06:40:30] ye [06:40:37] how can i do that? [06:40:42] bulk xml imports go in [[Special:RequestImport]] [06:40:43] [06:40:47] image imports go in [[phorge]] [06:40:48] [06:40:59] xml?? [06:41:00] btw ive never done [06:41:01] any of this so [06:41:02] im confused [06:41:53] i probably should've linked to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze ^^; [06:43:04] TY [06:43:15] yw :3 [06:52:12] uhh so [06:52:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439508419437658172/image.png?ex=691ac62f&is=691974af&hm=49c536f795d4f7199c6cccc69a614ca59d554af212d4b39fbb3a3e17b23cdc8b& [06:52:35] 😭 theres nothing here [06:54:39] no request button as well? [06:55:39] nothing [06:55:50] i mean i can go to special:export and just type all the pages [06:55:53] theres only 158 [06:56:04] that's a giant pain, but i'm not stopping ya ^^; [06:56:52] (make sure you get _all_ pages, not just content pages btw) [06:58:05] [1/2] well i can just copy all of these [06:58:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439509815381594152/image.png?ex=691ac77c&is=691975fc&hm=a450dc061e93c9802ad916126b7e80d9f706cd70a77877ceeac7a186ae5a0364& [06:58:10] unless thats not considered all pages [06:58:15] i just went to Special:Allpages [06:59:12] [1/2] you need ~all of these as well to have the wiki be readable ^^; [06:59:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439510092386009140/1763276350105.png?ex=691ac7be&is=6919763e&hm=7fab677b5b936ba5be7c346e892a22de48036bbf9a0c573c70191b09e014b634& [06:59:37] oh boy [06:59:42] okay where do i find those [06:59:49] oh nvm [06:59:50] i found them [06:59:52] I NEED ALL OPF THOSE [06:59:58] ya..... [06:59:59] wow okay [07:00:06] it wont be too hard [07:00:56] you also have to consider images... [07:01:17] oh i know that [07:01:19] but also [07:01:20] oki [07:01:24] do i need users 😭 [07:01:30] okay, probably not [07:01:35] (i said approximately all ^^;) [07:01:39] ahhh okay [07:01:46] key ones are mainspace, file, template, and module imo [07:02:07] if you want, i can dump it for ya lol [07:02:14] [1/3] hello! i am nosmi and this is my first message in this server [07:02:14] [2/3] the reason i joined miraheze is because i wanna have a goal that may be too much for a new miraheze user, but i wanna make a new wiki for the cartoon "zig & sharko" and probably it's spin-off (the adventures of bernie) too [07:02:15] [3/3] the fandom of this cartoon is kinda incomplete, or just nonsense (in my perspective) [07:02:39] [1/2] wait so this is all the files LOL [07:02:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439510964725616690/image.png?ex=691ac88e&is=6919770e&hm=3eb6f967347e6350124ba3932587d252718ce18ed00ba6bb27950eca5e4f0d4c& [07:02:43] whats this importing [07:02:47] cause ik its not importing the images [07:02:50] you can get a count via Special:MediaStatistics [07:02:55] the file description pages [07:02:59] oooohhh [07:03:06] i mean if you want to 😭 [07:03:10] i dont really know what im doing [07:03:31] [1/2] basically this part [07:03:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439511185140744225/1763276606293.png?ex=691ac8c3&is=69197743&hm=3e55d598f3aa363bf57911a214794977e6f33a876ceba58b7e0cfb0e69df1161& [07:03:36] [1/2] oki :3 [07:03:36] [2/2] link to wiki you're forking from:? [07:05:43] uhh okay i cant post links but its [07:05:48] robloxrivals.fandom.com [07:05:49] #verify [07:05:51] oki :3 [07:06:09] oh there we go [07:06:20] now dumping [07:06:33] already??? [07:06:34] how 😭 [07:06:44] https://github.com/saveweb/wikiteam3 [07:06:56] woahh thats awesome [07:07:25] ikr [07:07:32] its use is... legally dubious [07:07:49] so for images [07:07:52] how would i do all of that [07:07:52] 😭 [07:07:57] it also dumps them :D [07:08:00] OH [07:08:03] thats amazing thank you [07:08:06] ifkr [07:08:25] 1.3k images oh my lord [07:08:43] 😭 [07:08:49] yeaaa the reason im moving the wiki is because [07:08:57] it has so many issues and trolls and [07:09:06] fandom is just BAD [07:09:16] i certainly can relate to the latter lmeow [07:11:38] woahh [07:11:41] the feeds channels are cool [07:11:44] seeing them in real time [07:12:26] imma go eat dinner before i forget again :3 [07:12:50] alr ENJOY!! [07:32:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439518504494567444/image.png?ex=691acf94&is=69197e14&hm=b139e25881abde1925b75f3b7702220d3e5b14ed9f791703e6cbf4c30ddb61fc& [07:32:41] what is interwiki prefix [07:41:31] hello, i made a steward request but the template isn't showing up [07:41:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439520757578203180/image.png?ex=691ad1ad&is=6919802d&hm=d3b03519b072f4558d63c087f5fed717bf2c78a67f107111c9617f3e30c039f8& [07:41:42] [1/2] ughhhhhhhhhhh [07:41:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439520793859198998/Screenshot_20251116-184119.png?ex=691ad1b6&is=69198036&hm=288c24a530fc184d304779fae187b5fa17aedcf2283c74935f2597aed7520c28& [07:41:50] apparently i'm missing an extension, but i have no idea what i'm doing [07:41:52] woah is this an error [07:41:54] 😭 [07:41:57] ye [07:42:07] can't upload to the internet archive [07:43:06] okay so [07:43:06] hmm [07:43:15] i can do the xml file but idk about the images [07:43:19] 😭 [07:43:27] i'll upload to my own server in a bit [07:43:32] 😭 alright [07:43:36] still eating [07:47:02] alright [08:03:36] [1/2] question... [08:03:36] [2/2] i made my account (`Asyncmeow`) a while ago (back in february), and only now realized (bc I've been inactive πŸ˜…) that it had a capital `A` at the start when I'd rather it be all lowercase (ie. `asyncmeow`) - is that something that's possible + should i just do it as a username change req? [08:04:47] no all usernames have to begin with an upper case [08:04:53] aa :flop: [08:08:40] you can change your sig and/or use DISPLAYTITLE on your userpage if you want tho [08:09:00] oh what thats why they made mine Mozzalicious [08:09:02] thats lame [08:09:58] is displaytitle something that would be shown in place of my username [08:11:09] yeah [08:11:33] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#DISPLAYTITLE [08:11:39] but only on your userpage [08:15:31] [1/3] i need some help so upon making a request, the proper descriptions for the templates are not showing up and i do not know why [08:15:32] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439529304638750830/Screenshot_2025-11-15_11.40.46_PM.png?ex=691ad9a3&is=69198823&hm=f858e7ca99772053a2515ff7680f0a97c10036ae02013b334b9b60f0728bfc6c& [08:15:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439529305141940224/image.png?ex=691ad9a3&is=69198823&hm=4849bef0ebf7a932c3299453f30019f5e3182cad99c7a916e336ed9d1cb6e899& [08:16:09] uh oh [08:16:47] the fields have been filled out [08:17:53] https://files.sharkgirl.ing/~claire/dumps/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-wikidump/ [08:18:13] WOAH okay what do i do with this [08:18:40] wait, i forgot to upload the uncompressed history file [08:19:48] [1/4] the xml dump is https://files.sharkgirl.ing/~claire/dumps/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-wikidump/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-history.xml [08:19:48] [2/4] images are both: [08:19:48] [3/4] * https://files.sharkgirl.ing/~claire/dumps/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-wikidump/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-images.7z [08:19:48] [4/4] * https://files.sharkgirl.ing/~claire/dumps/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-wikidump/robloxrivals.fandom.com-20251116-images_mismatch.7z [08:20:14] where's this ? [08:20:17] i can try 2 help i think [08:21:22] okay so [08:21:27] [1/2] now what do i do [08:21:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439530795822878730/image.png?ex=691adb06&is=69198986&hm=686fe6c6390300ac363af546590b56e9531d9df01090716784c10c6e656798ef& [08:21:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions#Plagueplagueplag@lexingtonandconcordwiki [08:23:01] just fixed [08:23:39] thanks a lot [08:23:42] what was wrong? [08:23:44] [1/4] interwiki prefix is fandom:robloxrivals [08:23:44] [2/4] feel free to check the assign edits box [08:23:44] [3/4] comment probably should be something like "Import all pages from [[fandom:robloxrivals:]]" [08:23:45] [4/4] leave import to original namespace [08:23:45] [08:24:12] and then what do i do with [08:24:12] the uhh [08:24:16] image files [08:24:32] you left the parameters commented out :p [08:25:50] [1/2] first, login to [[phorge]] (wiki page has step-by-step instructions because the account flow is unintuitive lol) [08:25:51] [2/2] after logging in, https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/18/ [08:25:51] [08:29:12] [1/2] so im supposed to do this? [08:29:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439532747289792583/image.png?ex=691adcd8&is=69198b58&hm=9501826cec6a95f94573ba471acec274371d247f29e8007186ec146f02adfa07& [08:29:40] [1/2] it's either 2 or 3 (not 1) [08:29:40] [2/2] and link to the image dumps :3 [08:30:19] wait what links though 😭 [08:30:23] i just have the zip files [08:30:32] OHH [08:30:36] was i not supposed to download them [08:30:48] you can download them if you want lol [08:30:51] but link 'em here [08:30:56] oohh [08:31:06] (please don't upload them onto phorge, we still haven't figured out how to limit file sizes πŸ™) [08:31:39] so in the future, how can i fix that (im sorry i dont know what you mean by "commented out") [08:32:10] [1/7] for this part: [08:32:10] [2/7] ``` [08:32:11] [3/7] |wiki = [08:32:11] [4/7] |user name = [08:32:11] [5/7] |discussion= [08:32:11] [6/7] ``` [08:32:12] [7/7] remove the [08:32:20] (except for the status line, leave them there) [08:32:28] ohhh [08:32:34] and where do i put the links? [08:32:47] make a new line and put it there :p [08:32:51] ah okay [08:32:53] it's a freeform textbox ^^; [08:33:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439533726206791830/image.png?ex=691addc1&is=69198c41&hm=cc553dace8bced6cbcdb51a0383de6cf8ba944750e111cb02a0c07afa7c8c2ee& [08:33:16] works well enough [08:33:38] i'm going to upload a 1 tb file [08:33:42] and crash the entire farm [08:33:44] yamete kudano [08:34:01] okay i submit so i just wait for now? [08:34:04] ye [08:34:24] awesome [08:35:57] okay so when i was uploading the xml file [08:36:00] [1/2] it just crashed [08:36:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439534456712200336/image.png?ex=691ade6f&is=69198cef&hm=90522c364b24b5df9d026f281c5515c5bc67aca47f1ca5a08ac3d0962af3b299& [08:36:01] 😭 [08:36:03] is this normal [08:36:28] which page did you use? Special:Import or Special:RequestImport [08:37:56] Special:Import [08:38:05] ah, that's more for smol dumps [08:38:11] like, a handful of pages or so [08:38:12] ohhhhh [08:38:15] gotta have to use the latter ^^; [08:38:33] hm [08:38:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439535107764391966/image.png?ex=691adf0a&is=69198d8a&hm=631fbd0107217c23668bee8d23e91e1c2bf2d678d4a3af11009c49d41c87abbe& [08:38:50] [[Special:RequestImport]] [08:38:51] [08:38:53] ^ this one [08:38:58] oooooooooooohhhhh [08:41:31] [1/2] AWESOME [08:41:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439535846163218442/image.png?ex=691adfbb&is=69198e3b&hm=e6b59a9a0a5465ba128278c9e2f1354009595b35ce49f9f172eada93e9db730b& [08:42:44] oh wait your wiki's rivals [08:42:49] oooooo [08:42:58] 😭 yeah [08:43:10] i tried adopting the fandom wiki but [08:43:19] i have to be active i think for a week straight [09:28:07] both imports done :3 [09:30:54] just checked and theyre all here TYSM [09:30:58] yw <3 [09:31:11] [1/2] i mean its not perfect obviously but now i can fix it up [09:31:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439548346975916042/image.png?ex=691aeb5f&is=691999df&hm=c62482eee39c83c75e0b910aa50bf1a4278038f867034c9bed0ab319f64303a8& [09:31:26] [1/2] i just wanna do cool stuff like this 😭 [09:31:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439548407860428931/Screenshot_2025-11-15_220118.png?ex=691aeb6d&is=691999ed&hm=fd85871d1bf452e0958e8b8f38ce9ff9a3da047c06a1ec3a68ab52f2abfd3ff7& [09:31:29] idk how they did it [09:31:49] idk how to design things to look good 😭 [09:33:06] if interested feel free 2 join the roblox wiki member server β†’ https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1001373934874284112/1343717044763234355 [09:37:55] [1/2] ill be honest w/ ya - this very complicated and not newbie friendly [09:37:56] [2/2] start w/ simple things [09:39:33] this - edit and save page w/o changes, or remove a line break somewhere, so the code start working, this is a known issue w/ portableinfobox [09:40:08] and make sure PortableInfobox extension is enabled [09:41:05] i had to add warning on css page to refrain lol [09:58:36] gg [10:00:27] the main things i want is like [10:00:30] just like [10:00:31] themed colors [10:00:34] something like that [10:01:29] there's themetoggle extension which creates themes and switcher for them, but each require separate css code, variables are used [10:01:39] idk what any of that means [10:03:59] Then this is indication that you want to start with the basics. E.g. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_write_HTML_and_CSS [10:07:39] yeah, modifying look of a wiki in 95% CSS [10:08:10] atm only Cosmos skin offers simple color customization [10:09:01] whats that? [10:11:47] skin is basic layout, roughly speaking a basic theme [10:12:01] default skin on Miraheze wikis is Vector 2022 [10:13:42] check [[Help:Skin]] [10:13:43] [10:14:43] actually wait don't [10:15:20] look for admin change of a skin on wiki, not user preference [10:16:02] petra, don't mind if ill rework changing section? [10:27:00] [[Help:How to customise the look of my wiki]] [10:27:01] [10:36:15] Hmmm [10:36:20] 503 [11:30:35] [1/2] So we had this duplicate wiki on Skibidi Toilet that was technically created earlier than the one forked from Fandom. But it has like zero content, extremely inactive etc. I think I sent a steward request but they said it would be closed as per the dormancy policy. It was almost about to get closed, but then some very nice person decided to edit the wiki for no good reason and re [11:30:36] [2/2] set the timer again. I don't want to have a duplicate wiki perpetually remain just because a very nice person happens to stumble by every now and then. Should I send a steward request to close it again? [11:32:34] i guess duplicate clause will have to be forced here [11:32:37] idk [19:40:01] [1/2] hi, i'm trying to change the color of these buttons (and give them a border if possible), but i cant seem to change them no matter what i section i target. would anyone be able to tell me what i should change? [19:40:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439701561478615231/image.png?ex=691b7a10&is=691a2890&hm=69aaf131322b530bd315fd1cdc98f8d391458aa515a3bc5000060d7169fda880& [19:50:16] is this the citizen skin? [19:50:54] yeah, i figured it out just now though actually :) [19:51:34] oh alrighty! [22:24:52] had them in fandom and nobody could be bothered to rewrite them [22:27:10] wdym "nothing that can be done"? [22:29:25] The syntex comfuses me [22:49:18] Huh is it like HTML syntex ina way? [22:49:51] XML specifically which is stricter [22:57:09] I thought it was just for the dumps of content [23:10:09] XML is a widely-used format. JSON's taken over for most things but XML's still alive and kicking [23:11:37] you can still build websites based on a variant of it iirc [23:20:03] xhtml for the masochists out there [23:55:58] [1/3] my wiki is forked from a fandom wiki, and so the tables now look like this with 0 outline or background, how can i make it have one like fandom wiki? [23:55:58] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439765972729724999/image.png?ex=691bb60d&is=691a648d&hm=f178e4b5cee289db20f50679c970c782dab13e2f108b0ebc5f909203c2e3cd8e& [23:55:58] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1439765973174587554/image.png?ex=691bb60d&is=691a648d&hm=c1396a97b30472ecdde0a4157c22335787f1454ded08299778f57069da17c060& [23:57:22] I imagine that would be CSS, no?