[00:40:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to squib__> for the record, administrator makes confirmed + rollbacker obsolete
[00:40:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> confirmed might be temporarily useful if the user is not autoconfirmed but a little activity goes well past that bar and rollbacker is a right built into admin
[00:41:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> you may very well know this but I see a lot of wikis assign permissions exactly per that screenshot and so I may as well leave this out for the record
[01:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sjsm> i changed my main page to a different page, but now the home button redirects to it but it says (Redirected from Main Page). how do i change which page the home button links to?
[01:21:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to sjsm> go to MediaWiki:Mainpage
[01:22:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> replace with your current home page
[01:22:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sjsm, replying to tangoer_man> ty
[01:25:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> How do I remove the timeless wordmark?
[01:43:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to bartomelow> [1/3] ```#p-banner.mw-wiki-title.wordmark {
[01:43:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to bartomelow> [2/3]     visibility: hidden;
[01:43:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to bartomelow> [3/3] }```
[01:44:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> know that it will make the wordmark button unusable
[02:49:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> [1/2] for my infobox, how do I make it so that lines will appear between each category?
[02:49:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444883024956096573/image.png?ex=692e53ad&is=692d022d&hm=d05a6dfeb45d4534146466a5cf561dd6c3996fa8d8021a8a4288372f814c9ae3&
[02:52:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> [1/2] something like this is what I'm talking about
[02:52:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444883843114078348/image.png?ex=692e5470&is=692d02f0&hm=74f127f630595db01621e815d23789868be21c3ddebcc6d82d6943c597dad661&
[04:06:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> Should this question be in support?
[04:29:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> The answer is almost certainly CSS, but I don't have a specific CSS answer for you
[04:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Since folks in this community are spread around the globe, if you're not getting a quick answer, the support forums are a great way to hopefully get an answer
[04:31:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> alright thank you
[05:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> is discussiontools reply always available on mobile?
[05:30:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] somehow i can't click the reply button on mobile. it doesn't scroll to right. idk if it's resolution-specific or skin-specific
[05:30:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444923613080719360/Screenshot_2025-12-01-13-28-15-796_mark.via-edit.jpg?ex=692e797a&is=692d27fa&hm=2802291bb9c21bc6285fd39a425dc7a898c4144b021141603227debc0075690d&
[08:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> thank you miraheze for being the wiki
[09:01:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you can delete files w/ nukedpl right?
[10:24:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> yeah
[12:42:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Wiji
[13:39:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to ministree> You could put an <hr /> in the infobox template at the bottom of each category.
[14:19:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree, replying to jph2> I’ll try that thank you
[14:30:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> Is it considered a dick move to export pages from à wiki to get their templates and modules without them knowing?
[14:36:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> no
[14:37:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> Thank u
[14:48:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> only when you have a compatible license
[15:30:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to ministree> As long as you import them from a wiki with a cc-by-sa license, you'll be fine. Please do not import from them if the wiki has a different license than yours, or explicitly mention that the source material is licensed under a different license
[15:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ministree> a:catnod:
[17:42:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> can a cc by-sa wiki specify some terms so that simply using mediawiki's import may not work
[17:55:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> uuuh... I made an oopsie... How long does it usually take to get a bot un-rate limited? 😅
[17:57:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> never unless manually grant it noratelimit in Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bot
[18:01:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> :o
[18:03:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> [1/2] for example, it should be very reasonable to ask them to make the interwiki prefix to correctly link back to the original wiki (which means you must fill in mh:xx on mh wikis; create a interwiki entry on non-mh wikis). putting this back in cc's terms, the redistributor must give a uri (which is a url for wiki pages) to the extent reasonably practicable as long 
[18:03:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> [2/2] as the original authors gives a uri
[18:08:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> (another way is check `Assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally` and import it on a mh wiki, in which occasion gabbrish prefix filled can keep attributions linked (but the original authors may not use that wiki
[18:26:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> not a copyright expert by any means but surely making the link work is a requirement for the "attribution" part?
[18:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> when you import from an mh wiki you gotta put mh prefix for import to work in the first place, but also comment is enough, from what i saw in majority of cases, and im fine w/ people crediting me or my wiki where Ive made my own templates w/ just comment
[18:29:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> also imported my own templates between wikis couple of times and checked the assign to local user, result - it looks like im just copypasted my own code from last revision lol
[20:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [1/6] Such requirements are not legally binding.
[20:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [2/6] All people have to do is to Attribute the author(s)
[20:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [3/6] If they state `This is page based on contributions from the English Language Wikipedia users on page "Wikipedia"` they fulfil the legal requirements.
[20:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [4/6] On the other hand they can just put `https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Leonurus_G_1488.jpg?oldid=25756` in the summary when they create (or add to) a new (existing) page.
[20:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [5/6] The user can decide for themselves how they want to attribute. Fallback links are therefore not at all required.
[20:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to honoka55> [6/6] cc @theoneandonlylegroom @thewwrnerdguy
[20:17:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I personly prefer linking back to the history page of the origin soruce
[20:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> You can however change the footer line `Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted.` which is just text, by linking `(CC BY-SA 4.0)` to https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
[20:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to eytirth> That's also possible indeed.
[20:21:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Mediawiki standard provides [permanent link] which gives `?oldid=25756`
[20:22:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445148071406338088/image.png?ex=692f4a85&is=692df905&hm=80ce6cf053d891c5addb68e0a47c08a41be142b40007150e93efdef63fbf6d56&
[20:23:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It gives the link to the actual page, and by that way provides a link to all previous contributors, not the future ones
[20:24:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I prefer therefore to put the permanent link in the summary.
[22:08:22] <Guest40>	 myolxpagerisdeefer
[23:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> So like, I'm trying to auth to use my own account to run api requests to the wiki and still am getting rate limited 😅
[23:27:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ahappyoreo> Does your account have the bot group
[23:27:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> yup, both my account and the bot account I made
[23:38:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> Is my server actually forever rate limited? :(
[23:39:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> are you using a default user agent
[23:40:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> [1/2] OH... It worked now(?)
[23:40:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> [2/2] I swear I spent the last 3h staring at 429's
[23:40:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> but for real, anonimous requests will get forever rate limited?