[00:56:21] Got accepted instantly 🤘 [02:29:55] where do i insert templates once i made one [02:37:55] actually a better question is how i get the visualeditor [02:40:58] You can enable it in [[Special:ManageWiki]] for the whole wiki, and for yourself then in your preferences. [02:40:58]

[02:41:12] ty goat [02:41:18] (change the subdomain to your own wiki) [02:42:20] where exactly is it on there? [02:43:28] Special:ManageWiki/extensions [02:43:51] mb I meant within my preferences [02:43:53] And under the editors tab in there [02:45:00] [1/2] Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-editors [02:45:00] [2/2] Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing [02:48:52] [1/2] i dont see visualeditor here unless im looking over it [02:48:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445607694659489916/image.png?ex=6930f694&is=692fa514&hm=a30f5dbcaea19a98536d233b378b09403110a22a6abe3022da9dafa1a58a024e& [02:51:46] nvm I got it, had to refresh [02:53:35] but still when clicking edit it doesn't bring up anything on the page, and editsource has no way to change to visual [02:58:12] It can take a while for it to fully enable, it doesn't always come through at first. [02:59:05] oh alr, ty [02:59:18] I see the option on your wiki. [02:59:35] [1/2] Editing mainpage, it's the pencil icon: [02:59:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445610391832100864/image.png?ex=6930f917&is=692fa797&hm=d357f78970b31de561ff3c9531e8b9c0e70571db4403c58d89892a7ab6798431& [04:01:49] is there any way to add citations on the infobox [07:09:24] [1/3] I'll help the first 20 people interested on how to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username [07:09:24] [2/3] @Benjamin_harold22 [07:09:24] [3/3] Or use the telegram link in my bio [07:10:47] @Discord Moderators [07:11:15] :BanHammerMH: [07:11:45] Beat ya to it lol [07:22:51] Oh heh, I thought I did it 😄 [07:41:34] [1/2] anyone working with citizen know how to get rid of the auto option in the settings? [07:41:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445681351973011496/image.png?ex=69313b2d&is=692fe9ad&hm=70363e22fb105de9c9ac30d920a659ca04390bcc0ef79306665e31306035fc83& [07:42:44] #skin-client-prefs-skin-theme .citizen-client-prefs-radio:has(input[value="os"]) { display: none } [07:43:02] oh wait [07:43:07] you're from the utg wiki arent you [07:43:12] with this, ensure that in Special:ManageWiki/settings, the default theme isnt Auto [07:43:14] yes! [07:43:21] ah awesome [07:43:30] i'd been looking at your wiki to get an idea of how i want to redesign my site lol [07:43:49] [1/6] there'll be a visible empty gap. after that, do [07:43:50] [2/6] ``` [07:43:50] [3/6] #skin-client-prefs-skin-theme form { [07:43:50] [4/6] grid-template-columns: repeat(2,1fr); [07:43:51] [5/6] } [07:43:51] [6/6] ``` [07:44:33] glad for it to be your inspo ❤️ [07:46:30] NP the site looks great [07:47:24] especially a fan of moving the sidebar to the top, i'm really interested in knowing how that works [07:48:04] its a new citizen feature [07:48:17] search "citizen header position" in special:managewiki/settings [07:48:31] oh wth that's crazy [07:51:01] [1/2] not everything was made for transparent backgrounds i guess lol [07:51:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445683732026621993/image.png?ex=69313d65&is=692febe5&hm=96c55f23349821ce9fb4b2aa364aa5aec8490baaff3d806cbaa829bf30a5d33d& [07:51:10] i'm gonna have to change up my sitenotice [07:59:16] [1/4] actually i do have a few more questions if i may @toosplatched, [07:59:16] [2/4] 1) I don't quite understand how OKLCH works but from what I can tell it seems to affect the text/icons/etc. and gives them the blueish hue, I don't quite like that and would much rather prefer it to be a solid white but I have no idea how to change that since i'm only familiar with RGBA [07:59:16] [3/4] 2) how do you add the discord icon on the header position? i'm pretty sure it's javascript but I know nothing of it [07:59:17] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445685807280033915/image.png?ex=69313f53&is=692fedd3&hm=31da51fe021af3d9ed01511843278b956b0faa83d7b175a9915b111f6688f7c9& [08:00:01] sorry if i'm being overbearing btw lol, it's been a while since i moved out from fandom and i'm still not used to having to do all this colored theming and stuff on my own [08:00:19] feel free to continue using rgb if that's what you're comfortable with [08:00:52] it's easier to get a color pallete down using oklch [08:01:00] [1/2] when I use RGBA for text colors like [08:01:00] [2/2] ``a { [08:01:21] it kind of just leaves other text in the dust [08:01:40] i've had to modify things as i go and it gets kind of annoying when i can just do it all in one [08:02:36] if youre doing this for citizen css then do --color-link instead [08:02:57] yea use citizen variables [08:03:17] for other skins you'd have to target a bunch of elements besides a [08:03:19] 1) --color-base: white in your :root [08:03:27] oh i meant ``p`` lol [08:03:33] [1/2] this might help, i wrote half of this [08:03:33] [2/2] https://starcitizentools.github.io/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/customization/theming#colors [08:03:56] you can view my setup here but it's got a serious case of yandere dev syndrome lmfao https://deathbattle.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen.css [08:04:14] [1/7] the white text looks like this rn [08:04:14] [2/7] `` [08:04:15] [3/7] p, li, dd, .Popup, td, .tabber__tab, #citizen-section-0 > div, center { [08:04:15] [4/7] font-family: sans-serif !important; [08:04:15] [5/7] color: var(--citizen-text-color); [08:04:15] [6/7] } [08:04:16] [7/7] `` [08:05:10] nah you can't fuck up as bad as him [08:05:12] no way [08:05:15] as mentioned use --color-base [08:05:26] --color-base sets the color for everything [08:06:19] [1/8] for 2) [08:06:19] [2/8] ``` [08:06:19] [3/8] var discordButton = $('

/a/div'); [08:06:20] [4/8] // Discord button in drawer (desktop) [08:06:20] [5/8] $('.citizen-drawer').after( [08:06:20] [6/8] discordButton.clone().addClass('mobile-hidden') [08:06:21] [7/8] ); [08:06:21] [8/8] ``` [08:06:39] [1/6] than in css: [08:06:40] [2/6] ``` [08:06:40] [3/6] @media screen and (max-width: 1119px) { [08:06:40] [4/6] .mobile-hidden { display: none; } [08:06:40] [5/6] } [08:06:41] [6/6] ``` [08:07:38] hurray thank you [08:07:44] i'll have a look at the guide as well, thanks a ton you two [10:05:06] [1/3] Hi, the horizontal list (hlist) on my wiki is not working, can anyone check which module or styles.css is not imported yet? [10:05:07] [2/3] https://mypt.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_Rapid_Kuantan [10:05:07] [3/3] even simple code like {{hlist | a | b | c | d}} is not working, it shows regular vertical list instead [10:17:12] how do I remove a custom domain? [10:51:51] [62a34b03c8335954d0a33949] 2025-12-03 10:51:35: Fatal exception of type "TypeError" [11:36:23] You have no hlist css in your MediaWiki:common.css See [[mh:MediaWiki:common.css]] [11:36:24]

[11:42:02] how exactly should i credit if i take a template from a different wiki [11:43:19] export and import with full history and you'll be good [11:44:42] #My module is a nuclear weapon that is causing internal errors [11:45:15] oh ok [11:49:46] or you can credit in description [11:49:57] importing last revision [11:50:19] import also would leave a redirect in gistory [12:02:37] unfortunately I can [12:03:23] unfortunately I can't view that page, can you explain what I should add? [12:04:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445747602527359118/image.png?ex=693178e1&is=69302761&hm=47b9a753c3c2c87fb914cb315ccbb757c86b54c7d44287d95b8eaad16fa36877& [12:05:13] You can just copy the permanent link in the summary when submitting it [12:06:09] [1/2] oops, my mistake: [12:06:09] [2/2] [[mh:dev:MediaWiki:common.css]] [12:06:10]

[12:07:22] [1/2] Oh, hang on: [12:07:22] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Hlist [12:09:36] You're missing https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Hlist/styles.css [12:12:46] I already have Template:Hlist/styles.css [12:13:03] hmm. that's weird [12:13:17] so do I need to import MediaWiki:Common.css? [12:13:41] no. I need to find out why the styles are not "called" upon [12:13:58] You copied https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Hlist ? [12:14:56] Yes I imported Template:Hlist from dev [12:16:44] Okay. I'm checking what is wrong with it [12:19:15] [1/3] At the top of Template:Hlist can you add: [12:19:15] [2/3] ``` [12:19:15] [3/3] ``` [12:23:57] Does that work? [12:33:39] it works now [12:35:29] but it still doesn't work on the navbox https://mypt.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_Rapid_Kuantan [12:46:01] [1/2] @CSS/JS Support Volunteers Can you look at this? [12:46:01] [2/2] I do not understand why it doesn't show it horizontally [12:47:59] The Template:Navbox does have (although little) hlist css. Should that instead include the whole https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Hlist/styles.css ? [12:49:07] [1/2] The navbar works now. I'm assuming you want this? [12:49:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445758751561879661/image.png?ex=69318343&is=693031c3&hm=3af455b6036fa7da57174a54defbec41a15f9394ceebe2f2317ce038d33a0803& [12:50:45] I have brain-fog 🙁 Thanks [12:53:06] @zh9567 It works now [12:53:20] Thanks for fixing it! [12:53:56] In Hlist you need to divide it by using `|` not by using `*` [13:01:15] Hmm, what is the state of temporary accounts on Miraheze? I assume this is something that will be available/default in the future on Miraheze? Any blockers for it? [13:01:49] tried to find which MW versions have support for this feature but MW docs are kinda uhhh, idk, inconclusive [13:06:43] so far as I know it hasn't come up at all and we haven't really thought about it [13:06:54] oh [13:07:24] yeah, I did look at phorge but nothing of interest popped up when searched [13:07:27] worth a ticket? [13:07:50] sure, though it might take a while for it to pick up traction [13:08:10] in fact realistically new year is as soon as anything ambitious is likely [13:08:10] Fair, I did think that for legal reasons this would have been brought up earlier [13:08:28] I mean, WMF does it partially for legal reasons [13:08:43] and has it enabled on entire Wikipedia now I think [13:08:45] my totally non legal opinion is that the internet is such a wild west and even the wmf's approach is so messy that it's deferred until it is a more distinctly visible issue [13:08:57] heh, fair [13:09:22] 2026 is probably the year of the internet changing if not locking down so it will come up sooner than later I'm sure [13:10:03] to some extent already has and then some, just varies by jurisdiction [13:10:22] I'm assuming we need to catch up with lots of other things (SUL3, MW 1.45) before thinking about temporary accounts. [13:10:46] oh yeah, the backlog is horrible [13:10:58] still not really ready to do a full on mw version upgrade that's in the pipe I believe [13:12:16] Gotcha, figured I'd look into it because someone brought up not wanting to contribute with IP being visible (yes, account creation was brought up as a response, but nevertheless, I consider temp accounts something wikis needed for a while) [13:12:31] Thank you for response :) [13:12:45] I do like it principally a lot better than the (to me wild) default solution of just ip broadcast [13:13:02] especially since it's a major usability issue when login is not guaranteed and ip edits are allowed [13:13:28] but I am also used to other corners of the internet where ip is seen as not a big deal in ways the wmf is far beyond normal [13:13:43] it's not uncommon to see creatures request revdel for their ip because they accidentally edited the page logged-out [13:13:59] and they are worried for their ip being visible [13:14:01] me when I ignore the 7 billion red warnings [13:14:02] yes, that's what tends to bug me the most and I would like to see as a solved issue [13:14:13] you can do every warning in the book and it can still happen [13:14:15] pskyechology: yup, lol [13:14:45] im not saying we shouldn't do temp accounts but I am saying exposing your ip is a skill issue [13:15:00] I don't consider it super sensitive on its own but its a data point that deserves some privacy and ip edit broadcast should not be a normal behavior to the entire scrapable internet [13:15:22] Yeah. It's blocked on SUL3, Flow (https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1006789349498699827/1441468207608369334), and extension testing. [13:15:47] gonna do a bunch of testing when i cant do much else anyway [13:15:55] you can do everything you can to try and make certain issues not happen but the better solution is they are adjusted in a way where the problem doesn't exist [13:16:18] curing the symptoms or whatever [13:16:46] basically what all the warnings on ip edit/potential logged out are [13:17:02] I haven't had the problem but it's not a terribly unreasonable mistake to make [13:17:59] oughta do a github repo deletion type thing where you have to write in "Yes, I want to edit with my IP visible to everyone on the internet" lmao [13:18:52] and if someone still fails that we start asking for confirmations by mail [13:18:57] problem postponed [13:19:05] that almost sounds like a wiki thing to do [13:19:17] haha [13:19:41] [1/3] I have a technical question about Achive.org (pop-up) when hovering on the icon: [13:19:42] [2/3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_Wikipedia#Turabian_style [13:19:42] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445766445559451648/image.png?ex=69318a6d&is=693038ed&hm=2cac516bdf09ae62ad2730518a93f2289b702dc8cb715ccffedb919718fd2147& [13:20:11] Where and how is it called from [13:20:57] module black magic [13:21:02] 😄 [13:21:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445767022339297333/image.png?ex=69318af7&is=69303977&hm=45f343aa2bbe8abdd9abfa880b525200288f836b69bab1cc7dabc81b56297306& [13:22:28] I cannot find the icon being transcluded on the template [13:30:03] [1/12] Ooohhh [13:30:04] [2/12] ```

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[13:30:07] [11/12] /a/span``` [13:30:07] [12/12] It's the Internet Archive extension in my browser that does that. Weirdly though only on that section. Very strange. [13:31:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445769460622430300/wiki-archive-icon.png?ex=69318d3c&is=69303bbc&hm=b3df67a6deb41d0e8a4b16ffa47c751bb63bf1ab9684f44e37713cd3a74477cf& [13:32:06] how can i import something from the fandom dev wiki to miraheze [13:32:48] That's tricky, as they use different methods. @theoneandonlylegroom might know [13:33:38] i was thinking i could just do mediawiki:thing and paste all the code + /subpage code there? or no [13:35:50] [1/2] Fandom calls their templates directly from fanom:Dev which Miraheze doesn't. So their templates would stop working with us. [13:35:50] [2/2] You would need to copy all dependencies, and change the way they are called upon. But I am to inexperienced to give sound advice on that. Sorry [13:36:30] (I never worked on Fandom. All I got is an account there 😄 ) [13:37:23] Otherwise make a support thread, and use the tag "Template help) [13:37:29] man this tech stuff is hard [13:38:09] I can help with normal stuff from Wikipedia, etc. But Fandom is a different story [13:38:40] ill see what i can do first, thanks for helping me :D [13:42:29] Importing JS? Which script are you importing? [13:43:22] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/ReferencePopups [13:43:59] Oh that was originally a Wikipedia module (way easier to import than Fandom Dev modules) [13:44:36] Have you tried turning on [[mw:Extension:Popups]]? Or do you need the JS script specifically? [13:44:37]

[13:45:24] ive never heard of extension popups until now [13:46:14] [1/2] If you needed the Reference Popups only then you can copy from here: [13:46:14] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reference_Tooltips [13:46:21] But the extension is easier to use [13:47:21] ooh, tyy [13:50:32] Dont feel bad it took me like 3 hours to properly set up base modules and templates (imported with minor tweaks) [13:50:48] Learning as we go 🌞 [13:52:46] Ive never done wiki management i typically just do the bulk of information writing so reading up on everything takes a bit [15:34:32] @smallam from a rate of zero to ten, how much are you enjoying miraheze [15:34:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293312886277406743/1343916790245494844/caption.gif [15:34:48] Oh my fucking god [15:35:00] :irlfestivity: [16:49:09] https://tenor.com/view/alien-cat-spooky-cat-strange-cat-earless-cat-alien-gif-27449502 [16:49:16] i cant with this meme [16:49:19] i just CANT [17:53:30] [1/3] hi! for some reason there are 2 requests in [[SR/RC]] falsely marked as "Done" when it actually isn't. [17:53:30] [2/3] - for Bloxd Wiki, they requested removing /wiki/. this change was never done. [17:53:31] [3/3] - for Super Blox 64 Wiki, they requested removing /wiki/, enabling CirrusSearch, and setting main page as root. only CirrusSearch was enabled. [17:53:31]

[19:46:29] Checking [19:46:47] What kinda of main page design trends do you notice? [19:53:06] there are occasions we hit those buttons and it just does not work, if it fails to apply for a while or there's nothing in meta or local logs to suggest it was done properly feel free to unmark. though in these examples NA has come back to them [19:53:08] They are busy with it [19:53:26] Already addressed hours ago, for the record. 🙂 [19:54:03] What do you mean? [19:55:39] [1/2] I notice Fandom main pages have this kinda "look" to them [19:55:39] [2/2] Big middle, small right pillar [19:57:20] there definitely are some common 'main page formats', a lot of wikis for example are inspired by an older wikipedia main page layout [19:57:29] Ah. Wikipedia uses "Portals" Each box has its own template to edit, within a frame [19:57:34] reception wikis have a whole type which I wish was gone [19:57:50] several actually, some more functional or creative than others [19:58:05] [1/2] ]I think I go for "basicly Wikipeida" in my style [19:58:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1445866703002009640/Screenshot_from_2025-12-03_19-57-50.png?ex=6931e7cc&is=6930964c&hm=395c24a6f1903d57e70ba71fce5b3fa74132bce23ea64a3c574479a6ac99b219& [19:58:15] but most regulars here have seen some of the highlights I think [19:58:38] Yes, reception wikis are ugly as hell (wt-feth are they thinking?>) [19:58:56] [1/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:58:56] [2/2] My mainpage also has 2 columns - 1 wide, 1 small [19:59:30] Wide for boxes with more longer sentences, one small for lists [20:01:45] [1/3] https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:01:45] [2/3] All the Tropes also has that Wikipedia feel. [20:01:45] [3/3] Many wikis do emulate a Wikipedia feel [20:02:06] makes sense as the most recognizable wiki in the world [20:02:11] Yup [20:02:18] ok maybe i should also use columns [20:02:27] whenever i get enough pages that are higher-quality [20:02:35] When you enter a wiki, it gives a feeling of "I know this" [20:03:19] In the many requests I have reviewed, it is often a reason. [20:03:30] <__commander5kping, replying to rodejong> : ( [20:04:45] Hey, I'm a WikiReviewer - The name is self explanatory 😉 [20:05:03] Bud, I have service-banned people for less. [20:05:22] <__commander5kping, replying to notaracham> :scared [20:05:25] <__commander5kping> :scared: [20:05:46] <__commander5kping> https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-gif-25967546 [20:06:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293312886277406743/1343916790245494844/caption.gif [20:06:24] Cool job, see ya tomorrow. [20:07:03] The reason is, that if you do this, and the AI approves a 2nd or 3rd request, one remains open. Then I come to your first, and spend time reading your request, the time gets wasted, as it was approved already [20:08:04] Besides that, The request might not even be approvable for the original reason. If it is found out, you risk your wiki be deleted anyway [20:10:59] [1/5] Back to the original question though, design language on main pages in the game wiki space is definitely a certiain variation on a theme: [20:10:59] [2/5] https://terraria.fandom.com/wiki/Terraria_Wiki [20:10:59] [3/5] https://wiki.factorio.com/ [20:11:00] [4/5] https://slimerancherwiki.com/en [20:11:00] [5/5] https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/ [20:11:40] i wonder why wiki.gg doesn't support other skinss [20:11:46] They do, sorta [20:12:14] This is neat - how long to make it? [20:12:22] wdym? vector 2022 doesn't really count [20:12:40] is wiki.gg open source [20:13:17] That was the sorta part. [20:35:14] my raw spitball is wiki.gg has a formula that works and is pretty far on the 'we know best with design' scale, which is probably true and what they come up with does tend to be pretty & functional [20:36:03] they probably want to keep it that way which offering a wide selection of skins of varying quality or function or age doesn't really help with (definitely miraheze, which is far into the 'do what you want at your own risk' side) [20:36:26] Is there any skins nyou think are bad quality? [20:36:55] I really disliked evelution not only for how it looked but just the design as well as how... heavy it is [20:37:05] not sure we still offer it but we definitely did for a while [20:37:24] Heavy? [20:37:51] there's skins that are just old old old and we have a lot of them. Top of my head is cologne blue, nostalgia, modern (ha!), that one that's old vector with more lines; I think it's fine and dandy to add a couple but we have quite a few [20:38:17] but because they've been more or less maintained as is indefinitely, they don't have particular technical issues that would lead us to not offer them [20:39:22] What do you think of these older skins like cologne blue, nostalgia, modern "that one that's old vector with more lines" and so on? [20:39:22] evelution iirc had so many buttons and script stuff and I'm not so big on all that, but to get more specific I'd have to see it again [20:39:24] Did it need all that? [20:39:27] monobook I cherish a bit but its also really dated. would be a keeper in my book tho [20:40:55] gamepress is nostalgic but you have to hyperspecifically want a dated old website that isn't even a traditional wiki look [20:41:23] some of these skins and I think that's one of them don't actually integrate very well with notifications [20:41:36] i really like this style, if only i knew a lick of web design lol [20:41:43] might do some reading and give a crack at it [20:41:50] dusktodawn is basically gamepress with flipped sidebar orientation [20:42:16] it goes on, I could do this all day and I shouldn't [20:42:34] Not the hardest style to do I think [20:42:52] Why do people even use all the old skins? [20:42:53] i doubt its difficult i just need to learn [20:43:07] thats about it [20:44:24] doubt most older skins even get used aside from just being there for novelty or the very rare project that actually goes 'that's the one' and goes all in [20:44:47] cologne blue is actually a valid case that's a nostalgic look brought up once in a while on avid [20:45:18] I'd like to see any wiki anywhere that uses gamepress or dusk to dawn as a main or even just properly supported skin [20:45:27]