[00:08:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mp5a5> [1/2] chud image wont fit inside my damn ``<div`` box
[00:08:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mp5a5> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1447741594894864575/image.png?ex=6938b9ed&is=6937686d&hm=c1fd4218d37dcbfb7f7603427c1d3af63df5384d609f685bec31e25249570b80&
[00:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> force it to.
[01:06:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <giantguy> Chud will not be contained
[01:19:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to mp5a5> I really wonder how you make images fit in your div box
[03:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron> [1/2] Hello! I’m new to the Wiki building community, but I’ve been developing my own for a fantasy setting haha.
[03:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron> [2/2] How’s everyone doing?
[04:21:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> Touched the snow outside and wiki'd a lot on my home wiki by doing a lot of bot edits to clean things up. After that, I'm just chilling now.
[04:23:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron, replying to wickerbasket2540> Nice!
[04:24:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to eldritchoctahedron> Yee. We freshly moved off from Fandoom and are having a blast with how different things are. We're still trying to get the interactive maps Fandom had back up and running, though.
[04:25:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron> What’s your wiki?
[04:25:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to eldritchoctahedron> bored, so i'm churning through phorge tasks lol
[04:25:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron, replying to blankeclair> Phorge tasks?
[04:26:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> basically tech tickets
[04:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron, replying to blankeclair> Gotcha
[04:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to eldritchoctahedron> The My Life as a Teenage Rabbot Wiki, it's my little fanon wiki that became a database over the few years on Fandoom. You can find it at mlaatrabbot.miraheze.org, and since I'm the one that maintains the wiki's CSS and stuff, things may look off on certain web browsers.
[04:27:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron, replying to wickerbasket2540> Nice! That’s pretty cool, I’ll check it out
[04:28:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to eldritchoctahedron> Thanks! You're welcome to check it out whenever you please.
[04:32:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eldritchoctahedron, replying to wickerbasket2540> My wiki’s urnovaen.miraheze.org, it’s for an original dieselpunk setting of mine I’ve been developing for the last seven/eight years or so. Feel free to check it out if you want, it’s very much a WIP
[04:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to eldritchoctahedron> I'll check it out! 👍🏻
[04:42:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arandomcats, replying to pskyechology> [1/2] i was the one who made 90-95% of the styling while in the back of a car. If a single line of js fails then everything is f##ked.
[04:42:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <arandomcats, replying to pskyechology> [2/2] mobilefrontend is painful
[05:22:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to arandomcats> i hope your captors will let you have a better workspace now
[05:22:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> explode mobilefrontend, embrace media queries
[05:33:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dollvps> Hi! I have a question about Sushi Gambit
[05:45:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to dollvps> welcome to miraheze (wiki hosting) support discord, if it's related to subject of some wiki you might have better luck w/ community dedicated to it
[05:51:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dollvps> SHOOOTTTT OKAY
[08:34:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> kinda curious how often this happens lol
[08:34:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reyvarie> how are people even finding this server like this
[08:35:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> I don't even know, honestly.
[08:54:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> 100% SEO :arttuWOW: cool
[08:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to reyvarie> usually 503 or the like happens and there's discord invite at the bottom
[08:58:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> since wiki unavailable for whatever they're looking for they ask here
[09:01:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reyvarie> oh there's a server link in the error huh
[09:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to reyvarie> Yeah there is
[09:25:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i still think the error messages should be redone
[09:25:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Fandom recently changed theirs
[09:29:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> [1/2] crap 92 how do i make it a 100
[09:29:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1447882934324301834/image.png?ex=69393d8f&is=6937ec0f&hm=b0439f4a61fd458fd6baa5a64ee061da23ef7e8d27b163501c4781f42229a203&
[09:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> :boohoo: even tho its 92 its not even on google
[09:40:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to zauharyemsii> Can anyone help? There are some other templates that are not showing up.
[10:08:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to jineverfade> google does whatever the fuck it wants, it's hard to please if you're a nice user friendly web site
[10:09:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> contrary by big company baked ad infestation hell holes
[10:21:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to zauharyemsii> Wiki link?
[10:22:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to bartomelow> https://qualesterra.miraheze.org/
[10:24:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to zauharyemsii> https://qualesterra.miraheze.org/wiki/Templat:Did_you_know
[10:47:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to bartomelow> ?
[10:47:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii> it is a successfully imported template
[11:04:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to zauharyemsii> It has a buck load of red links. Red links are often skipped by robots as unwanted.
[11:18:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to rodejong> What are red links and how to fix them?
[11:19:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> red links are links to missing pages that don't exist
[11:19:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> to fix a red link, either document it or remove that link
[11:24:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> did you mean create page?
[11:32:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> yeah that
[11:48:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to jineverfade> Ignore the last one
[11:49:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Doing the last one is basically you let the AI feed your data
[13:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to max20091> My data is hungry? Someone feed it!
[18:30:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> Is there a wiki-editing for absolute idiots? I’m in over my head.
[18:31:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to kijilinn> i don't think there's a one-stop guide for your needs, what's the issue you're facing?
[18:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> we do have quite a few guides on a variety of subjects, though https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/How-to_guides
[18:36:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to kijilinn> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Help:Editing
[18:44:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> Thank you. I’m just… feeling exceptionally stupid. I’m a new wiki editor, as in I started last week. So I’m just overwhelmed. I’ll stick to the help topics.
[18:54:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gonnalooseit, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Truth supernova right here
[19:07:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mr.pineapple.boy> Hey there
[19:12:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kijilinn> First off, welcome :) secondly, we’ve all been mate, it is admittedly a lot of things, but you don’t need to use or learn them all at once
[19:13:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> And for what you do wanna learn, just ask
[19:13:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Plenty of people here have spend
[19:14:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Far, far too much time in the wiki trenches, and would be happy to break things down
[19:14:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> +1 on that, it's a lot starting out but if you focus on one smaller thing at a time, each next thing gets much easier. 🙂
[19:14:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> Thank you. Right now, I'm just trying to get the basics of making pages and templates down. I understand the concepts, just not the application entirely. ^^;;
[19:15:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Mhm
[19:15:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kijilinn> Alright, what do you understand currently and what parts are giving trouble in the application?
[19:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> Right now, I'm on the level of being excited to properly make a new page. I understand the concept of making templates and successfully made one. That's... about as far as I am.
[19:23:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kijilinn> Okay, so are you at “I know what I want to do, now how do I do it” or “I know how to make pages, now, where the hell do I start”
[19:26:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> I know what I want to have when I'm done... does that count? The wiki is a story bible for the current fiction series I'm working on: database of characters, objective timeline, then individual perspective memories of those timeline events. Also, world mechanics and the like.
[19:29:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kijilinn> I've also got three generations' worth of perspective, relationships that make spiders' webs look simple and at least one magic system.
[19:30:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] Nice, sounds like a fun project.  So one concept I recommend getting a handle on early is interlinking between pages, using double square brackets to connect one page to another.  
[19:30:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] Once you're a bit more confident and have logical groupings of different topics, the next thing I'd recommend looking into is creating a navbox template to easily switch between groups of pages.
[19:33:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/3] They can be pretty simple, but can also get crazy complicated. 
[19:33:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/3] An example from Stardew Valley's wiki, which makes it easier to flip to different villager's bios:
[19:33:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448034898756767754/image.png?ex=6939cb17&is=69387997&hm=160121e66e942f6bfd22fbeaa22e6f7e320d2d270dd69b17570d35893e58a8fc&
[19:58:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> is there a way to make a specific wiki page private from anyone who is not whitelisted to see it
[19:58:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> No
[19:58:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> no
[19:58:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> Fuck.
[19:59:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> ok nvm i guess i can't begin working on a page for new content that i'm not allowed to leak yet for a game
[19:59:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yeah wikis by fundamental nature are not for mixing in private stuff
[19:59:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> notepad 😍
[19:59:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Google Docs
[19:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Unless the whole wiki is private, anything on it (bar the exceptions like private settings) is public by principle
[20:00:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> the wiki is not private
[20:00:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> i just wanted to like
[20:00:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> work on something that's upcoming content
[20:00:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> but i'm not actually allowed to show it in public
[20:01:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Then no that does not go on wiki
[20:01:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, then better notepad, genuinely
[20:02:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to notaracham> bit off topic but I like how I instantly recognized that this screenshot is from the stardew valley wiki even before reading what you said at all
[20:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Theoretically you can create a page that isn't accessible from anywhere, that's what I do. It's not a perfect solution though, and only really works if it's low-stakes or of minimal importance.
[20:02:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> i wanted to get the
[20:02:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> better to not risk
[20:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> That or a separate private wiki for writing up secret pages on.
[20:02:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> formatting correct
[20:02:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> so when the update drops i can just drop the wiki page immediately with accurate content
[20:03:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> consider a) seo b) special pages
[20:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to justleafy2003> Their themeing, it is good
[20:03:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to cat.bread> ive heard kate text editor supports wiki text, haven't tried
[20:03:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Reminds me of MCW
[20:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to notaracham> [1/2] yeah, agreed
[20:03:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to notaracham> [2/2] I think I know way too much about gaming wikis, which is how I recognized this lol
[20:10:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <airmankitten203> Hello!
[20:38:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> hi
[20:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> need help or something?
[20:42:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7gardien77tombeau7> AliceSoft wiki deserves better attention.
[20:45:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> wdym
[20:47:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7gardien77tombeau7> I am gay
[20:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7gardien77tombeau7> Bruh
[20:47:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> how's that related :ThinkerMH:
[20:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> whatever
[20:48:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> keep channel for support and miraheze discussions, please
[20:48:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7gardien77tombeau7> Ik
[20:49:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7gardien77tombeau7> I just need to grow up
[21:26:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> ok?
[21:40:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to toosplatched> How to create a page or delete a page? I don't understand.
[21:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> is there a way to swap out a template when viewing a wiki on mobile? i have a navigation footer that isn't particularly mobile friendly and i'm not entirely sure on how to adapt it for mobile so i was gonna just make a mobile tempalte
[21:53:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to drxtrat3rrestrial> I have done this before: I made a template which contains two tables with two separate CSS classes. Then in Common.css I made the one table not display above a certain width. <https://dappervolk.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PetAlchemyRecipeTable>
[21:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to drxtrat3rrestrial> you can use the `mobileonly` and `nomobile` css classes to hide certain things on desktop or mobile
[21:55:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> salutes!! thank you both :]
[21:55:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zauharyemsii> [1/5] you can create a page by
[21:55:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zauharyemsii> [2/5] a) clicking on red link
[21:55:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zauharyemsii> [3/5] b) typing page name in url after `/wiki/`
[21:55:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zauharyemsii> [4/5] c) search for page, wiki will suggest you to create it
[21:55:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to zauharyemsii> [5/5] delete button is usually under "more" menu
[22:09:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> oh yeah, i understand
[22:10:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zauharyemsii> thx
[22:19:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [1/3] is there any particular reason why my UI here is white when this wiki only offers and is always set to dark mode
[22:19:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [2/3] i was told that it might have something to do with the CSS but i don't really want to bother with that at the moment (asking people is scary!)
[22:19:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448076566578860165/image.png?ex=6939f1e5&is=6938a065&hm=6dab94aab696496ffe74e9b33ae7f564c3b1cfe94b921423669b973687003a6d&
[22:25:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> in any situation blame cache /hj
[22:25:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> can you drop a link to the wiki?
[23:18:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> https://gbp.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[23:18:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i've refreshed it already
[23:23:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [1/7] ah, this is a weird issue im having
[23:23:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [2/7] each of the coins is one template, but with different versions able to be picked from- but it's only registering 3, 4, and 5- stealth is supposed to be 2
[23:23:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [3/7] not sure if its an error with my code or if i need to just use different templates entirely
[23:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [4/7] im changing these bc these are also the mysteriously duplicating coins that would stay duped after clearing cache fhdsgbfds
[23:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [5/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448092690242863195/image.png?ex=693a00e9&is=6938af69&hm=3758721da30b11e5b982e0317d7c4254c205b0dea00f3e6e7835423646c0e742&
[23:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [6/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448092690494390446/image.png?ex=693a00e9&is=6938af69&hm=2ba5a97cab3f258bc8ff136d489dca2bbaeaa9b6fed88297b6a8871fdfbf89bc&
[23:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> [7/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448092690758766755/image.png?ex=693a00e9&is=6938af69&hm=f1010fdcb3e3351619149b4ffd67806bce839e2f3b6de6196167b13ec549974d&
[23:24:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drxtrat3rrestrial> oh i just noticed its not even putting them in the right spot either :ughh: health and efficiency are supposed to be 4 not 5
[23:47:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to chenopodium_quinoa> [1/3] it appears styled to me, and good at it i must say, being vector
[23:47:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to chenopodium_quinoa> [2/3] check your user preferences, appearance, is safe mode setting checked, it disables any custom css/js on wiki
[23:47:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to chenopodium_quinoa> [3/3] also im going to sleep now, sorry, other folks online could continue
[23:47:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chenopodium_quinoa> safe mode 😭
[23:49:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it was?