[02:44:03] nope [02:44:09] because there was no option for that [02:48:40] is this built into miraheze by default? and if so, can i get a link to the documentation to the use? [03:05:09] Am I allowed to ask for assistance in keeping my wiki up-to-date, at least as far as the articles themselves go? It's solely because I have to juggle that with actually writing the story my wiki's affiliated with, along with work and other real-life stuff, namely community band involvement. Quite the life I lead. 💀 [03:27:13] [1/2] Yes, it's listed as a global extension. See here: [03:27:13] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileDetect#Usage [03:36:45] Hey guys, how does one make tabs? I want to have a table of contents for each wiki article for stuff like description, personality, backstory, that kind of thing. I’m on mobile RN, but I can move to laptop if that works better [03:38:00] Tabs like you click them and they only show the contents of one at a time or a thing of links to jump to parts of the page, aka a table of contents [03:38:48] Tabs like you click on them and it shows one thing at a time [03:39:12] Ah okay Tabber [03:39:25] i think the extension is [[mw:Extension:TabberNeue]]? [03:39:26]

[03:40:00] Do I replace Tabber with the title? [03:40:23] The usage section of the page should explain [03:40:44] let me fetch an example on wiki [03:43:59] okay that is an overcomplicated example lol whoops [03:47:23] NVM, apparently three = signs do the trick on my phone [03:47:31] Three on each side [03:48:13] That’s a heading, not a Tab [03:48:18] Ah [04:36:23] [1/2] if your concern is closure due to inactivity you can ask temporary/hiatus based exemption from dormancy policy [04:36:24] [2/2] if you're looking for editors, that's rather difficult task, people usually aren't interested to support a project outside of their own interest [04:39:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448172166947405967/IMG_20251210_073828.jpg?ex=693a4aee&is=6938f96e&hm=0009fcfc19ad629866d0521dd1602fe302d15007b71bef8b20e9741906f885ac& [04:39:45] it's in personal/user settings, preferences link near your username [05:08:26] 8100 members :yay: [05:57:49] Lessgo! [06:29:44] sweet [07:22:02] Hi! [07:43:04] hello [07:53:40] They quit [08:08:47] awh [08:19:52] a wiki url i want was taken by another person and that wiki hasnt had content since it was created (around 20 days ago), and it is also hard to contact him. is there anything i can do other than having another url for my wiki? [08:52:33] [1/2] a) is it private? [08:52:33] [2/2] b) does it have closure/inactivity banner? [09:08:25] [1/2] well duh, realized that if you know there's no content then it's public lol [09:08:26] [2/2] you can try to adopt it via local election, if it's closed you'll have to ask for opening first [09:10:32] [[Closed wikis]] [09:10:33]

[11:13:53] bad gateway ❤️ [11:14:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448271681813483662/image.png?ex=693aa79c&is=6939561c&hm=3922c4b96e611d9fee84b9831c0b06de9c6d1a581f5cfe3303c7eecf453a0007& [11:15:46] amazing [11:16:31] dear lord 😭 [11:16:34] @MediaWiki Specialists @Infrastructure Specialists [11:16:45] Pinging since the problem does not resolve by itself after a few minutes [11:16:47] fuck [11:17:44] db181, ugh [11:18:50] why is the Gateway so down Bad? Do we need to call it a bad puppy so it starts working? [11:19:22] cough [11:19:55] so uh [11:20:02] mwdeploy isn't running because of the canary cehcks [11:20:15] Hello hello, same issue as everyone else, ping when it's resolved, tysm ily [11:20:19] oh it is, just slowly [11:20:21] --force [11:20:32] i did [11:20:37] just gotta wait for checks to fail... [11:20:55] I need to check whether proxmox works on my phone [11:21:07] random, can you kick mariadb and unmaint the db? [11:21:11] i'm playing a game rn [11:21:52] screw it, ping me if someone needs something lol, i'm going back to play [11:21:59] i can restart the vm [11:22:01] which one? [11:22:17] I think the issue resolved by itself? [11:22:22] no [11:22:29] db181 is in maintenance i think [11:22:33] What is the maintainance? [11:22:36] it's always random [11:22:45] Is it scheduled or unscheduled? [11:22:48] most clutch engineer [11:22:59] <.dobex> unscheduled [11:23:00] unscheduled db explosion [11:23:13] Well that's a bum, [11:23:15] <.dobex> how long does this last usually? [11:23:54] Ah I see. So the issue went from a global outage to wikis on that specific db. [11:24:31] Well I hope that the explosion gets resolved soon [11:26:11] it will [12:33:40] Is there a way to find the reason a wiki was `deleted`? I'm trying to understand what happened to the `Tactics Ogre: Reborn` wiki (https://tacticsogrereborn.miraheze.org/). [12:43:04] weird, doesn't seem to actually be deleted, just showing as such [13:15:11] If it was a public wiki or you were a part of it, you can request undeletion at [[Steward requests/(Un)deletions]]. [13:15:12]

[13:15:57] if it was done automatically its hard to pin down because dormancy sweeps things into the silent night [13:16:04] do you remember the subdomain of the wiki [13:16:08] oh duh its right there [13:16:30] I appreciate the suggestion, but I actually had no relationship to that wiki other than just an occasional user. I remember accessing it a few weeks ago, and was curious as to what happened with it. [13:16:31] i think you'd both benefit from reading my comment [13:16:49] either im blind or it is not marked as deleted in managewiki [13:16:59] its marked as deleted [13:17:05] then i am blind [13:17:12] overdue for new glasses anyway :p [13:17:29] yeah its standard deletion [13:18:01] [1/2] I see the `State==Deleted` here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WikiDiscover?dir=prev&offset=thenuclearthronewiki&category=gaming&language=en&sort=wiki_dbname&state=deleted&visibility=%2A. This is as far as I could go in finding what happened to it. [13:18:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1448302736922644591/image.png?ex=693ac488&is=69397308&hm=3f1cadd58e3572d0a190c87287ebcc5e9f327e4c22a811a2aa2f6d47eb1f5b8c& [13:18:28] [1/2] I do not remember any incident that would lead to a manual deletion but for edification you can find if its deleted or not (if this gives an error it means its hard deleted) at [13:18:28] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/core/tacticsogrerebornwiki. This is slightly more useful than ^ because if its locked that means there was a manual intervention [13:20:13] You can then ctrl + f in managewiki log at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/managewiki?type=managewiki&user=&offset=&limit=500 to see if there was manual action. I looked for 'tactics' as far back as well before the date of founding and saw nothing, so it seems to be a victim of dormancy [13:20:59] My reply was based on visiting the url and getting the "wiki deleted" message. [13:21:20] i ended up being wrong anyway :p [13:21:58] basing on this if there is good cause to restore I don't see why not [13:22:26] it is kinda weird that the managewiki page shows neither inactive or private though [13:22:51] if the domain moved (this doesn't leave any kind of trail by default unless you look at phorge) then it would behave different [13:24:45] [1/2] Thank you all who responded, either way. And thanks @raidarr for helping me conclude it was probably deleted by dormancy. That last managewiki log is as close as it gets to what I was looking for: a log of what happened to which wikis. [13:24:46] [2/2] I don't have a strong argument in favor of restoring it, though. As a user of that wiki, it's sad to see it go. But as a software developer and a human being myself, I understand the reasons why it went away, and I don't have any reasons to justify it being treated any differently. [13:33:18] if people would be willing to take on keeping it alive again, undeletion is a pretty trivial process as long as its not "dropped" (which would give you nothing at the first managewiki link to work with) [16:03:01] Why does Miraheze not have add-ons that are used to hide only some pages from view? [16:05:49] short answer: they suck at hiding [16:05:49] MediaWiki does a really bad job at letting you "hide" pages when a wiki is public. Extensions exist that let you "hide" pages but its easy to circumvent them and once that's done, someone's going to complain that their data was leaked even if we clearly warned them. [16:13:05] The only thing I have "hidden" are just copy paste message banks (those are not that senstive as well, I use them alot) [16:16:35] _also thats what CMS' are for, which MediaWiki is famously not_ [16:21:45] I think I loose little if people learn I use phases like "Please send a sample of your fiction work for review ..." via copy pasting [16:22:15] Do people really think they "hide" pages properly? [16:23:00] why not just put these on a subpage of your user page or something [16:23:16] nobody is going to go looking there [16:23:54] the elegantly named search function: [16:26:53] user namespaces shouldn't be in search by default [16:27:22] the elegantly titled all namespaces button: [16:27:43] yeah and? if someone really wants to find it you don't lose anything [16:28:36] that's kinda like having windows into your bathroom [16:28:52] which is exactly what the people dont want when requesting such extensions [16:31:18] what I'm saying is an alternative to having the extension [16:31:32] if I were assuming the extension I would not be suggesting this [16:36:31] ah [16:45:49] Well, at lest I am not storeing emails or passwords [16:48:23] anyone who stores passwords on a page of any sort should be exploded anyway [16:48:48] I used to store passwordss on a word doc (now I use a proper password manger_) [16:49:46] But I do wonder why they are not installed past "They are not good at hiding data"? [16:49:59] if you use the same password for every site you don't need to store them on any page! I've been getting along fine with `password` as my password all these years and nobody even knows [16:50:25] if they still let you use that as a password that's on them honestly [16:50:31] I use two different passwords [16:50:38] I mean, if it can't do its whole job then why bother with it? [16:50:48] I do think even Miraheze accounts need good passwords [16:50:53] No use installing something that doesn't work. [16:51:11] All accounts need good passwords. [16:51:33] I wonder how many Miraheze accounts have bad passwords [16:51:59] A lot [16:52:33] Also is it me or are some wikis targeted more then others by vandels? [16:52:58] If a wiki is popular, it's bound to be targeted [16:53:14] ive found that more political wikis get targeted the most [16:54:00] I feel bad for those admins [16:54:10] me too [16:54:21] I have my wiki set as "Accounts need to be made by staff" and "All edits have to be apporved" [16:55:08] You would be supised how many former writers vandalise the wiki when they get fired [16:55:33] i sure hope the italian brainrot wiki is doing fine [16:55:40] eh, not really surprising [16:55:57] Hello Tung Tung Tung Tung Skyur [16:57:26] What is going on with the italian brainrot wiki ? [16:57:38] children [16:57:51] they're jsut really popular [16:57:59] with too much time on the internet [16:58:00] most popular even [17:09:57] What is brainrot? [17:10:26] [[wikt:brainrot]] [17:10:27]

[17:11:51] oh hey they even have [[w:Italian brainrot]] [17:11:53]

[17:13:46] This is so wierd [17:19:49] How do you prefer to handle vandism on your wikis? [17:21:09] moderation extension [17:24:43] I think the more useful thing to do would be to specify what you're looking at which miraheze is missing [17:25:57] extensions may not be installed because they're out of support, not stable, have security problems, or nobody's simply looked at them, which is not unlikely when it is a common understanding internally at miraheze that the only solution for real confidence is privating the wiki entirely, and even that has had problems that have come up as incidents over the years [17:26:22] the other route is putting information in more obscure places so they don't come up immediately when people search, and that can already be achieved built in [17:29:15] if someone wants an extension that doesn't hit a reason for exclusion, I'm sure it would be considered, otherwise its addition would be at whim and discretion. You now see why extensions that try to hide things would be unlikely to be unilaterally added [17:31:59] we're also at a point where we have too much to upkeep [17:32:10] which is why extension reviews take ages [17:58:12] [[wikt:Arab federation]] [17:58:13]

[17:58:34] [[wiki:Arab federation]] [17:58:35]

[17:58:41] LLLL [17:58:48] uh [17:59:23] What tips do you have for newbie for mobile freindly design? [18:09:39] [1/19] is it possible to add my own tags? [18:09:39] [2/19] like [18:09:40] [3/19] ``` [18:09:40] [4/19] code/uxntal [18:09:40] [5/19] ``` [18:09:41] [6/19] Instead of [18:09:41] [7/19] ``` [18:09:41] [8/19] code /highlight [18:09:41] [9/19] ``` [18:09:42] [10/19] I have this template [18:09:42] [11/19] https://uxnomicon.miraheze.org/wiki/Uxnomicon:Copyrights [18:09:42] [12/19] used like [18:09:43] [13/19] ``` [18:09:43] [14/19] {{uxntal| [18:09:44] [15/19] code [18:09:44] [16/19] }} [18:09:45] [17/19] ``` [18:09:45] [18/19] but it breaks with `=` as it is part of both uxntal and template syntax, I'm looking for a way other users don't have to manually escape them with `{{=}}` [18:09:46] [19/19] best regards. [18:27:39] Miraheze has an Italian Brainrot wiki? [18:28:33] i think you meant THE italian brainrot wiki [18:28:51] THE only one there is??? [18:28:58] Imagine being dedicated to contributing on there [18:29:01] the fandom one is uhhhhhh [18:29:07] not doing so good [18:29:16] i expected it [19:13:45] https://italianbrainrot.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:14:38] Do you think mobile freinldy wiki design is hard? [19:14:41] There are actually more than one. [19:23:48]