[00:01:04] [1/3] at the end of 2024 there were around 12.5k hosted wikis [00:01:04] [2/3] the total expenses for that year were $8,297.66 [00:01:05] [3/3] comes out to roughly 1.5 dollars per wiki, but this obviously doesn't account that a lot of the wikis are very sleepy with some receiving insane amounts of traffic [00:01:08] cheers for the boost [00:01:09] Purchase booste [00:01:22] (apparently there's some sort of promotion, it only cost like $1.50 for me) [00:02:57] That is impressively cost efficient [00:03:09] something something be gay do crime [00:32:23] I already handed him my information a few years ago when I claimed Watchdogs 2 for free. Now he knows my discord account too. [00:58:36] YAY my role icons ❤️ [01:17:59] these boosts are peak [01:19:35] Wondering if we should change some icons [01:19:46] Ie maybe make meta icon :mop: [01:20:09] For my fellow Wikimedia’s [01:20:39] Global admin needs a better one [01:25:16] I feel like a mop or a broom would be more fitting for cvt since they clean up and prevent vandalism personally [01:25:31] madmin [01:25:55] ^portmanteau brought to you by several hours of sleep deprivation and overwork [01:26:06] That’s what it is now [01:26:32] And the mop/broom is a pretty standard symbol for anti vandalism, influenced by Wikimedia [01:27:10] The enwiki admins also use it more iconically but for different connotations [01:27:50] More related to the concept of a janitor, doing the needed but thankless work, not more important than others, just have extra keys and tools [01:30:29] Nope [01:31:46] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CVN_logo.svg#mw-jump-to-license [01:32:19] The CVT role icon is purely yoinked from [[wikimedameta:CVN]] [01:32:20]

[01:33:32] Ugh [01:48:09] [[wⓂ️CVN]] [01:48:10]

[01:48:11] oh my god [01:48:24] [[w\Ⓜ️CVN]] [01:48:25]

[01:48:28] what the [01:48:38] [[w\:m\:CVN]] [01:48:39]

[01:48:50] breh [01:48:55] `[[w:m:CVN]]` [01:49:06] time for my final trick [01:49:11] [[w:m:CVN]] [01:49:17] @link [01:49:17] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/m:CVN [02:52:14] don't we love emojis [03:15:17] :EpicFaceMH: [04:43:15] @rodejong Hello! [04:44:27] Can we chat whenever you have a second? [04:59:38] why a dm (i'm presuming)? [05:42:01] Huh? [05:59:36] [1/2] anyone know how to change this out-of-focus color on timeless [05:59:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1449279571424841889/image.png?ex=693e5248&is=693d00c8&hm=47a9b96c584c0a7cf532d38f2c24b09debe0e0908936267fc9eb23f81005c11b& [06:01:45] [1/2] dm - direct message [06:01:46] [2/2] you sure your question/problem can't be helped by other volunteers? [06:02:53] like when you're on mobile/ <850px view and you press the navigation/account settings button [06:03:00] I know what DM means. I didn't DM them. It was just a general question [06:03:35] [1/2] PT wiki for comparison IDK if this is an Extension:ThemeToggle thing or something [06:03:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1449280573003796530/image.png?ex=693e5336&is=693d01b6&hm=fcf402b9c49bd3080f18bc43beb626812de899b3da094337e4bc5dd6f0eed9db& [06:04:26] styles for lesser res menu are separate from sidebar, themetoggle is not at play here [06:05:22] you'll have to use media queries [06:05:48] same for category block at the bottom on smaller scree6 [09:09:05] [1/2] I Generally don't do DM's - I have only a few trusted volunteers I DM with. [09:09:05] [2/2] What was it you want to talk about? [09:11:54] Just the request stuff. I apologize for the way I reacted to your message. It was rude of me and I won't do it again. [09:29:51] [1/8] No worries. I had already forgotten about that 😄 [09:29:52] [2/8] It's just - and this is for the general public - that people who in a short time start asking for permissions instead of just starting volunteering, are quickly judged to be "hat-collectors". It really is frowned upon imo. [09:29:52] [3/8] As I said, I rather see someone helping out, just because they want to help others and doing a good job of it, and then wondering "Why aren't they [fill in role] yet. [09:29:52] [4/8] Asking for [role] and then doing the volunteering is the wrong order. [09:29:52] [5/8] We like to see what a user is capable of, how they interact with other users, how much they understand of Miraheze as a community and organisation (if that is applicable for the role). [09:29:53] [6/8] You don't go to a workplace, look around, and say: `Can I be head of that department?` When you just come in every day (e.g. a grocery store) to buy stuff, and pick up things from the floor, put things nicely to the front of the shelve and help customers directing around to where they can find their items... the manager will say: `Why don't you come and [09:29:53] [7/8] work here? We can use people like you.` [09:29:53] [8/8] So in short... start helping out, and work your way up like you would in the real world. someone's eagerness to get a role makes us wonder if that user is just someone who collects hats to feel important, not because he just wants to help out. [09:30:42] (I wanted this to be short, but as usual I couldn't 😄 ) [09:31:41] All good. It's kind of funny because I do work at a grocery store. I applied and called everyday for 2 weeks and they hired me. 6 months later, I asked to become a Team Lead and they trained me without hesitation. I just became an Office Clerk (Cash Office). [09:31:45] And I am 16. [09:31:53] So I mean it went kind of quick. [09:32:09] I am fully trained for everything on the front end as well as the grocery department. [09:33:25] 😂 [09:33:58] They were just tired of you calling I guess 😄 - But well done I guess. [09:35:58] Perhaps you are the exception of the rule, but normally it wouldn't work that way (Or perhaps I am not going with the times?, I am a Quinquagenarian and from my work experience, it doesn't work like that) [09:41:00] that kind of initiative goes pretty far in retail tbh, places in my experience take anyone period, and if that someone is actually energetic and does a reasonable job then the world may be their oyster [09:41:52] its just that here by comparison the 'hiring' ie presence on the platform was automatic and the roles have different pipelines to fulfill to get somewhere [09:42:03] leaving the questions openly hanging on the rfc I think was the fatal blow [09:48:47] Personally that's not actually brilliant advice [09:50:03] Actually it's fairly terrible advice [09:50:19] If you don't ask for opportunity, you're unlikely to get it [09:50:45] I don't work in retail nor anything your typical customer facing role [09:51:27] But we have not enough staff for the work we have, can't recruit for very much and when we do recruit get significantly more applications than job roles [10:08:14] [1/2] Might depend where you're from I guess. Where I grew up, there were more people looking for jobs, than there were jobs. So you had to show what you're worth. The businesses could pick people they liked. And those who were insistently applying were often ignored. [10:08:15] [2/2] It still is here where I live now. [10:10:16] Most companies here job adverts are online now [10:10:19] But I disagree with `If you don't ask for opportunity, you're unlikely to get it` as you get seen by others. There is always someone who notices you [10:10:49] You stick a lot of applications in, you'll get a response eventually maybe [10:11:09] I encourage you to apply at a variety of levels above and below your capability [10:11:15] Have stretch goals and fallbacks [10:11:28] I don't have the time to see everyone [10:14:10] I have like 9 early careers staff who want advice and guidance on top of my day job [10:14:11] [1/2] You don't but there are others 🤷🏻‍♂️ [10:14:11] [2/2] But I just used it as illustration for how it is here on Miraheze. Someone who just comes on Miraheze and applies for Admin, WikiReviewer, and other roles, will likely not get it, because we want to see from what kind of cloth they are made off. [10:14:27] Which doesn't resource me to mentor early careers properly [10:14:41] If you quietly get on with stuff, it will take me longer to get to you [10:14:52] Some of the brilliant people have no sense so get watched more [10:14:59] Some I have to pay attention to welfare issues [10:15:04] Some are just dumb [10:15:07] @rodejong [10:15:51] I'll probably get to the end of my to do list by the time I retire [10:15:59] :d [10:22:31] But back to the topic. I love looking at the profiles on Meta and Login, to see what the interests are of the users, and what their skills are. People really forget to add that on their userpages. If you want to be a volunteer, it is useful to create a profile to see what you like. (But we don't take it on face value) [10:44:38] What did I start 🤣 [10:45:05] Meh. I have a good resume and an even better work ethic. [10:48:01] Work ethic good [10:48:16] Resume, I've seen good resumes where the candidate is as useful as a chocolate fire guard [10:49:38] Lmao. For being 16, I am on my schools Board of Education, Student Council, I assist in the IT department, I have over 150 volunteer hours, and I am almost an Eagle Scout. [10:51:02] That shows proactiveness which is good [10:51:06] Although don't burn yourself out [10:51:23] I can almost guarantee one of the questions I'd ask is how do you balance responsibility [10:51:52] That's what has been happening. I work my max hours at work, I study (I have 85+ for all of my classes), and all of my other stuff. [10:51:56] Kinda tiring [10:52:15] You don't need to do every thing [10:52:37] if it's tiring, consider which is going to be what you enjoy and can develop with [11:02:22] Why would you just go to a grocery store and start doing the job of an employee when you don't work there? 😭 [11:15:40] Work is what I enjoy. Its like another family to me [12:52:30] Is it possible to hide redirect pages from search results? Or just a way to hide pages from searches in general? [14:21:41] Oh they just do this it’s fun to watch [14:21:54] That sound tangentially unhealthy but more power to ya? [14:22:39] Uh, I think we must have very different definitions for Board of Ed lmao [14:56:05] yeah to me school board sounds like the group of people on a school district/division, like government positions above the principal level [15:02:00] Yeah, around here the Board of Ed is a democratically elected body along with town council and such that sets district policy, controls funding, is the highest authority on HIB reports etc [15:03:16] oh, in ours that's a civil service thing. as in you get promoted from the inside coming from the ranks of long-time public school teachers, not elected by the general public [15:06:00] there are things you should simply not answer [15:07:34] what does that mean [15:07:41] i love democracy but i think education should be run by professionals [15:08:38] I was actually having a conversation about this literally like 10 hours ago in a completely unrelated wiki space [15:08:54] nice [15:09:32] I have mixed feelings personally [15:10:05] i got the whole state of texas to stand behind my argument [15:10:20] That’s not a good thing [15:11:30] Influenced in good part by a while thing that happened a while back with a certain elected Board member tried to push a repeal of a policy protecting trans students by stating teachers don’t have to notify parents about some stuff, and the town came out in pretty considerable force to speak at the meeting, and the vote failed [15:11:39] Wrong reply but [15:14:11] that's awesome [15:14:31] I am the only Student Representative in the district [15:14:53] (He tried to propose the vote again, and that time it didn’t even get a second, and he rescinded the motion in awkward silence) [15:15:14] Okay, that checks out, but is very different from being on tje board [15:16:54] What they count me as is a non voting member. I still talk about things but I cant vote [15:17:30] Interesting! [15:17:37] May be different then here then [15:18:20] Are you working on your Eagle project? [15:20:44] im a professional [15:20:55] i will educate all my students on how to edit a wikj [15:20:58] Professional safety hazard [15:21:04] (they will all get a SUPER F) [15:21:37] Its in the planning phase. The idea was approved. I want to have local businesses sign up and help donate food items to the local food banks. [15:22:23] Nice [15:23:01] My issue is that I dont have enough merit badges for the rank yet so I still need those too [15:23:34] Can’t you work on your project with open requirements? [15:24:36] Yeah but if I dont have the merit badges done before I am 18, I cant get Eagle. If its just the project, they give extensions for it [15:25:25] i wonder how difficult it is to work at fandom [15:26:09] knowing one error could make you hate by everyone [15:26:12] (I’m also a scout and active eagle candidate, but I haven’t been able to look into a project or really any Eagle stuff since getting life so I lock in after New years lol) [15:26:20] What badges do you have open [15:27:55] (My nailing life in time to keep path to eagle open was kinda crazy, long story, very funny) [15:28:30] I have all of my Eagle required done. Along with a couple of the non required ones. I want to do Railroading, Law, etc [15:29:11] I also became a Patrol Leader somehow [15:30:13] Oh, I got all those done years ago [15:30:29] Through summer camp [15:30:35] How big is your troop [15:30:47] I’m not very good at independent work on MBs, that’s my main problem [15:31:04] Same [15:31:06] (I wear the results of Woodcraving and Leather working on my uniform) [15:31:19] Are you in OA? [15:31:33] 😅 [15:31:35] Not too big. We only have 2 patrols [15:31:41] Lol [15:32:00] I was elected, but, I never did an ordeal [15:32:10] Its worth it [15:32:30] I recommend it (not during the winter) [15:32:32] So at this point it’s off to table because by the next one it will have been more than 18 months [15:33:01] Im pretty sure after you are elected, you can do it whenever [15:33:18] Some 40 year old dude was doing the ordeal with us [15:33:25] Really? [15:33:48] I’ll ask my SM today (I have a scouting event in an hour lol) [15:34:01] Yeah. OA is different is the way that members are always apart of it no matter the age and as long as the dues are paid [15:34:05] I served as ‘Webmaster’ until life rank [15:34:11] Same! [15:34:12] Now I’m a JASM [15:34:31] I was Webmaster until I become Patrol Leader [15:34:43] Though still doing webmaster things and training the new guy [15:34:48] I have work today and I was up until 6:30 on my computer [15:34:54] I’m the first scout WM we’ve had [15:34:59] :sobbing: [15:34:59] Me too lmao [15:35:03] And I thought I was bad [15:35:08] Do y’all use TWH [15:35:29] We use TroopMaster [15:35:37] Not familiar with it [15:35:38] And facebook [15:35:41] Do you actually have access? [15:35:45] Yeah [15:36:03] But for advancement, we use ScoutBook. [15:36:05] Since we always had the adult webmaster manage the site, my role was all the other web stuff, like forms, and chat rooms [15:36:20] Scoutbook is standard yeah, we use it too [15:36:44] All of use have a private text chat. My dad is the asst SM amd advancement chair [15:36:56]