[00:32:17] is the imgtag extension safe to use? there are 2 pages on the mediawiki one is about "Imgtag" which is unsafe, the other is "ImgTag" [00:41:22] ImgTag is the new one we have installed and is safe to use [00:42:29] [1/2] Thanks, do I have to upload the extension manually or something similarly to be able to get images from sources other than mediawiki? [00:42:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1449924544339902505/image.png?ex=6940aaf5&is=693f5975&hm=c2b57ecd1a8bbaca59cc0e65041559b0720eb3374854ca50950104af190e9a72& [00:43:02] I couldn't find these configurations in my wiki's settings [00:48:04] Update on the issue: there's a method for this I found [02:11:52] Do people have issues with infoboxes being too bright? I found color is way off. https://battletechfanonwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Mad_Kat_Reborn%3F_(TBG) the infobox is almost white, I can't figure out why or how fix it [02:12:21] Many of the infoboxes are from old place, but their not having same issue. [02:17:37] The background color is being set to `#fff`, which fixes it to white [02:20:12] [1/2] You can change the color here: [02:20:12] [2/2] https://battletechfanonwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css#L-13 [02:25:56] Is there a guide says what color is what code? [02:29:41] [1/2] Maybe this? [02:29:42] [2/2] https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_colors_hex.asp [02:30:30] But if you want the background color to look right on both light mode and dark mode, you should use a variable [02:31:00] i see, thank you! [04:59:43] does anyone know the best gif size or dimensions? it seems miraheze struggles with some GIFs over 3MB or so.. sometimes it fixes it self.. sometimes not [05:00:51] I can't seem to pinpont the reason or get it to misbehave long enough. Enough purges every so oftne and it seems to finally behave [06:33:16] Is it possible to redirect the user to another page when clicking a flex box? I tried looking for examples but most of them used images or text [06:46:07] [[test|here/div]] [06:47:18] span flexbox? [06:48:13] oh that's interesting I've never thought of [08:56:54] Who know js?I just add a js for edit summary but it seems to be clumsy at source editor... [08:58:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450049325819363400/IMG_20251215_165812.jpg?ex=69411f2b&is=693fcdab&hm=8d1fcdd2418cd8a3c22e5157cc71b5634134a2f303c6d1e273f55e6fab395d3d& [11:13:33] [1/3] I have a line of code here in the css file of a page: [11:13:34] [2/3] background-image: linear-gradient(135deg, transparent 15px, white 15px, transparent 80%); [11:13:34] [3/3] Is it possible to change just the color inside instead of having to state the entire background-image every time I want to change its color? [11:15:12] oh and this method worked I just need to switch all the divs into spans thanks alot, took a while for me to figure out [11:23:10] could you elaborate further on this? what do you mean [11:25:21] [1/2] I have this piece of code that defines a "class", with one of the properties being background-image [11:25:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450086325230243850/image.png?ex=694141a1&is=693ff021&hm=656cae3b392e02d72270165c687f2dba6609de314caa6598ae4d6f5e79c44814& [11:26:47] is there a way to change a specific property of it, like just changing the "white" into "red" instead of having to write the entire background-image property again [11:44:38] [1/5] css variables,e.g.```css [11:44:39] [2/5] { [11:44:39] [3/5] --color2: white; [11:44:39] [4/5] background-image:linear-gradient(135deg, transparent 15px, var(--color2) 15px, transparent 80%); [11:44:40] [5/5] }``` then you can just have a `span class="department-color" style="--color2: red"` [11:45:36] this is perfect thanks [11:53:22] oh no it doesn't work [11:53:37] it says unrecognized or unsupported [11:55:15] I suppose I can just write the whole thing [11:56:32] is this a templatestyles thing or a css editor thing? [11:57:27] its templatesyles [12:00:16] https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/User:TheWWRNerdGuy/sandbox/styles.css?diff=337097 appears to work on the bc wiki [12:03:35] [1/2] it says this [12:03:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450095946481270898/image.png?ex=69414a97&is=693ff917&hm=06c72007e947f107edcefcbe9e83c86356da7120f94542c88a255e3e65a67d8b& [12:03:46] Enable [[mw:Extension:TemplateStylesExtender]] [12:03:47]

[12:07:41] oh right I forgot about that one lol [12:07:50] oh I need to enable another extension [12:08:23] does having too many extensions impact the load time and performance of the site? [12:13:39] i guess? loading more code -> takes time to load more code [12:13:50] no idea if the impact is negligible though [12:14:06] (also, opcache) [12:14:57] probably really noticeable when the extensions involved are the ones that make database connections, even on GET requests [12:16:02] i wonder what ext does that on every page lol [12:16:14] (i'm assuming in general and not on its own special page) [12:16:50] probably extensions that provide like comment functionality, they have to fetch those on reads. Other than that idk [12:16:57] ah [12:17:07] return to talk page [12:17:11] embrace simplicity [12:17:28] and remember to sign oh my god [12:17:31] proposal to rename talk page to yapping page [12:17:37] approved [12:18:00] would be a fun april fools day prank [12:18:05] could you imagine an april fools patch to core? [12:18:19] bonus points if fully functional [12:18:19] i mean we can override i18n soo [12:18:32] i mean function and class names [12:18:56] ma'am deploy the catgirlifier [12:21:36] hmm, i have a weird idea [12:21:58] is it possible to have a js gadget that appends the talk page to the bottom of each page? [12:22:05] replies can be done with DT [12:24:04] [1/2] citizen built in styles are causing the red 😢 [12:24:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450101100207280188/Screenshot_2025-12-15-20-23-31-01_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69414f63&is=693ffde3&hm=7620a293724d09b3c197a6e1ad759bbc48c36769c89496d12163a0c3e4e1659d& [12:24:51] 124 kb spent on roboto flex [12:24:54] brilliant [12:54:47] [1/2] Good afternoon, update of Labirinti e Draghi, in Italy... Is posso le if you know? For ecample, for Artefice (2024) [12:54:47] [2/2] Thanks [13:02:46] Can someone correct me if I'm wrong about behavior of Manage Wiki when it comes to $wmgSharedUploadClientDBname? Miraheze requires the server (media repo serving) wiki to authorize any client wikis (the ones that want to have images from other Miraheze wikis) by putting their database name in the Manage Wiki config. Is this setting on server's side required to have name of client DB name only at time of enabling media repo on client's side? Trying to allow... [13:02:52] ... second wiki to have media repo setup to same server wiki but the field allows only one database name at a time and I fear that if I change it from current, it may already existing media repo connection. [13:09:05] you are in support server of a wiki hosting, not single wiki, address this to local community [13:09:14] [1/2] Hi, I have a question about general wiki etiquette regarding edit permissions. Half a year ago, I've set my wiki to only allow confirmed and autoconfirmed users to edit because I was worried about vandalism as a pre-emptive action but now I'm thinking about reconsidering, if only to encourage readers to edit the wiki by reducing that barrier. [13:09:14] [2/2] Is it better to allow the "all" usergroup to edit pages? [13:09:38] does anyone know who's in charge of that file download bot here? jtohwiki needs it @ https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1450085701914722345 [13:09:59] personally i make it so that users with an account can edit to prevent vandalism and stuff [13:10:14] personally i always turn off anons, but not changing forcing confirmed [13:10:15] users can already edit by default. [13:10:25] Hmm. [13:10:51] There wasn't any issues with vandalism before when "all" could edit pages. [13:10:59] I guess I could go back to that and hope it encoruages people to edit more. [13:11:32] Sorry, i don't know how to go in the Local community. [13:11:47] does the wiki has its own server etc [13:11:55] or talk on wiki itself [13:12:02] when i disable anon editing, i always set up an anon notice informing users that they can edit if logged in [13:12:16] How do you set an anon notice? [13:12:37] MediaWiki:Anonnotice [13:13:32] logged out users are able to close the notice though. if you do not want anon users to get rid of your notice, disable `$wgDismissableSiteNoticeForAnons` [13:16:20] Hmm, I edited anon notice but don't see it anywhere when I logout. [13:21:13] thats weird [13:21:17] cache maybe [13:23:43] I deleted cookies and I see the site notice, but its not the anon notice. Hmmm. [13:24:01] Ok, Thanks. I Try [14:15:46] Hi [16:56:55] [1/3] is it possible to load and import javascript modules [16:56:55] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450169763652309092/image.png?ex=69418f56&is=69403dd6&hm=16b3d4c730bdda304701ba35ae9e08458318d84d797bd152a09a30af0f736f4e& [16:56:55] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450169764180656130/image.png?ex=69418f56&is=69403dd6&hm=e87340cc0108d93888589c46bf354d5460439470f0ed4cf934f4c2a392ddd7e8& [17:19:02] why does mediawiki still not support async/await it was added 8 years ago [17:20:20] @Infrastructure Specialists I think this is a question for you guys. [17:21:03] Mediawiki only supports ES2017 [17:21:15] the reason for that is that it's developed by the wmf [17:21:15] es2017 added async await [17:22:17] ES2015 added promises then ES2017 added async/await stuff [17:22:54] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T343499 i guess it should in theory be supported [17:23:00] No idea why it isn't [17:24:25] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/libs/Minify/+/948986/ [17:24:46] merged 2023 [17:30:58] [1/3] it's on 1.45 [17:30:58] [2/3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2025/23 [17:30:58] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450178334217605283/image.png?ex=69419751&is=694045d1&hm=a50f49292ce29918be130ac8a75f161a879954b63ae0752130c70c7d16f72692& [17:31:55] wow they really slept on it huh [17:32:19] is 1.45 actually released [17:32:32] yes but updating to it will take a while [17:32:49] does nexttide still exist [17:35:00] yes but we're far away from that too [18:27:06] [1/2] wanna create a wiki about fictional acts (using real people but with completely fictional and new information). should this box be checked? the pages will not deal with real infos. [18:27:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1450192460406849648/SPOILER_image.png?ex=6941a479&is=694052f9&hm=bd521fba60e0dad3aec7bbafa7321dff8b05e22eed24ac8d167a6882261b7038& [18:35:48] If you've opted into next tide previously, we'll plan something in the new year [18:35:57] We are way behind on 1.45 though [19:43:45] Yes, as you are likely to upload images of real people. [19:59:43] This sounds very risky [20:08:16] [1/2] I am not happy with you choosing not checking "real people" [20:08:17] [2/2] I've raised this with the stewards as gaming the system [20:11:15] oh... sorry about that. it wasn't intentional, i got confused about it. is there anything that can be done about this now? 😓 [20:12:41] The issue is that if you use images or descriptions of real people, and make up stories it might be hard for people who do not know them to see whether it is real or fictional. [20:13:20] You could represent them in a bad light, or make stories that make people upset. [20:13:49] Uh, I see a clear issue too, it could be viewed as slander [20:13:53] That is why I asked you to check yes, so I could ask more info about it before approving it [20:14:08] slander, defamation, etc. [20:14:31] I would ask that you use fictionalized artist names, for the reasons Ro mentioned. While intended harmlessly, it could expose you, personally, to risk of lawsuit. [20:16:59] hmmmm 😓 [20:18:00] Might I suggest that you - instead of using real people - ask an AI image generator to create fake people, and use those as baseline? [20:18:39] Lol [20:19:14] the issue with that is i can never get a image that fits the character design 🙁 [20:20:35] also that my wiki has a polciy disallowing ai [20:22:19] AI in general or AI art? [20:24:34] it doesn't work out very well because we don't really support it and think it's ok to make [20:25:38] former iirc [20:25:58] ai in general, minus fractals and non-neural tts [20:26:26] (genai to be specific) [20:26:27] Kinda rough nowadays, especially with contributors doing modules with llm's [20:27:23] ive also allowed it for css and lua but aside from the other stuff i said thats it [20:27:43] The problem is that people could sue you for spreading false information. Especially in the music industry where reputation is everything, you might end up with them requesting a take down. [20:28:14] Also, music companies are notoriously litigious. [20:28:18] just make up names yourself [20:28:55] i assume it's the images [20:29:03] that's worrying 😓 maybe i shouldn't start this project on miraheze then, sounds risky [20:29:22] i dont think you could start it anywhere actually [20:29:53] how messy would it be if you made an adhoc wiki on 4chan or kiwifarms [20:29:54] Exactly. Fandom might have allowed this, but you do this at your own risk. [20:30:15] 4chan just dgaf [20:30:23] agreed [20:30:33] never heard of kiwifarms [20:30:37] it's not meant to be defamatory or anything like that lol, but people might end up interpreting it that way [20:30:38] but can't think of any other option than selfhosting [20:30:54] Self host on some do not give a damm hosting [20:31:05] oh kiwifarms would also dgaf [20:31:06] oh yeah [20:32:48] or hmm [20:32:50] skywiki? [20:33:08] probably too [20:35:46] [1/3] See it like this. You write a story about a male singer who is single. He choses to be like that to be seen as a prospect/eligible future son-in-law. That is his image. But you start writing a story of him secretly dating another male or female singer. [20:35:46] [2/3] To him that would damage his reputation, all the while you just wrote an innocent love story, based on a real person. [20:35:46] [3/3] Can you see what kind of dilemma you'd create? [20:36:20] think of it as a trademark of sorts? [20:36:30] personality rights maybs? [20:36:55] i think it would mostly be personality rights yeah [20:37:04] hmm, now i'm curious how stuff like fanfics deal w this [20:37:04] The managers behind the singer would definitely go for that indeed [20:38:16] violations [20:38:18] oh lol, it wouldn't be something like that 😭😭😭😭 let me explain [20:38:29] Not sure, but the film industry is daily making takedown requests on the different platforms (such as Youtube) if only a few seconds of film clips are in the uploaded videos [20:38:47] this is why free licences on-top [20:39:09] imagine the japanese idol industry [20:39:13] What you mean? [20:39:35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_license [20:40:26] how is that relevant tho [20:40:33] I know what that means, but how is that of help to them? [20:40:37] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvjnZfLGsUE [20:41:07] i was just commenting on the takedowns [20:42:59] for personality rights? [20:43:23] no film industry [20:43:24] [1/3] rfp fics exist just fine, somehow [20:43:24] [2/3] if i understood the idea correctly, it's just about projects? it's still might cause misunderstanding [20:43:24] [3/3] even if you put a banner on every page that it's fictional, there's another problem - ai scrappers, taking information as is [20:43:54] i suggest to use made up names at least [20:44:39] And I haven't even touched on the many copyright violations of all the uploaded images. [20:45:07] yaa that's right [20:46:09] I was browsing the Fandom Wiki now, and I see so many Copyvios. If uploaded to commons, they would all be deleted. [20:47:33] what ive done is base off the irl person but with a fictional name and appearance, with no reference to the original person [20:47:40]