[00:00:13] oof [00:00:30] this older laptop also has an nvidia dgpu [00:00:36] i decided to not bother and disable it lol [00:01:49] it quickly went from a "oh, battery's not charging" to a "why is the power indicator blinking amber" [00:02:18] at least you didn't get a free pillow upgrade [00:02:24] touche [00:03:38] [1/5] complaints with the older laptop include: [00:03:39] [2/5] * acpi errors at boot [00:03:39] [3/5] * irq 27: nobody cared [00:03:39] [4/5] * no s3 [00:03:40] [5/5] * keyboard doesn't work for 1/3 boots [00:05:49] oo boy [00:05:57] got a permission error from SUL3 [00:06:00] network adapter also needed an out of tree kernel module since the one in the kernel fucking sucks, but that's a one time fix [00:06:04] ooh fun [00:06:15] i should get up from bed to provision yurikey [00:06:22] may just be because im on the wrong domain [00:06:39] are you not on auth [00:06:48] i was [00:06:50] idk [00:07:04] now im on meta and it works fine [00:07:18] but i dont get the link to auth ot setup passkey [00:07:28] my phone does not like to read yubikeys sometimes... [00:07:39] so im gonna try again making my phone the first key [00:08:20] excuse me [00:08:20] wait [00:08:42] ..does mediawiki's webauthn, not support Apple' [00:09:13] i made a large mistake with masseditregix, how do i roll it all back [00:14:28] [1/2] its actually so over [00:14:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466949719480729787/image.png?ex=697e9ae3&is=697d4963&hm=2b565fa703d3b542f18a15d06c129747a40e57deead2b9f403ef839a876c8544& [00:23:27] @tedkalashnikov there is an extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SectionAnchors that does what you want. want me to try my hand at a gadget version still or would you rather that? [00:27:56] I'm having an issue where I don't have permission to edit My own page [00:30:53] [1/2] uh mass undo unless it's something really easy to revert [00:30:53] [2/2] What's the wiki [00:31:20] Hi, I'm planning on doing a wiki for my friend group, but we first need to planify and do lots of stuff before doing it, a private wiki can be made to then making it public? [00:31:47] ive already started the manual work, thank u tho [00:32:08] Special:ManageWiki/core allows you to change between public and private [00:32:21] ok, thanks :) [00:36:10] aha, thank you ⭐️⭐️⭐️ [01:39:04] Okay, so this entire extension is literally a hook that loads a single JS file, so, you should be able to literally copy and pastr (with attrib) this into common.js https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/SectionAnchors/+/refs/heads/master/resources/ext.sectionAnchors.scripts.js?autodive=0%2F%2F [01:41:13] or maybe not that easy [01:44:42] lol okay not workjing [01:46:53] What issue were you having? [01:54:58] uuuh, foggy atp, think it was on Special:AccountSecurity on auth/metawiki [01:55:31] Odd. Works for me. [03:17:11] 502?? [03:17:19] Seconded [03:17:22] 502? [03:17:27] briefly [03:18:07] I was sharing some papers here that my wiki is going to be about. [03:18:11] yeah, back u again [04:09:35] [1/2] Anyone know how to get the references in the infobox pages out of the actual pages they're used in without removing them from the infobox page? [04:09:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1467008889408196764/image.png?ex=697ed1fe&is=697d807e&hm=59bee0242d8236d0a604e5939a9c1372d1cb5d0b01000af8a7e2980ed045ddfe& [04:09:57] I still want to document my infoboxes but they keep adding the pages they're used in to the category aswell [04:17:14] 502 jumpscare [04:17:15] 502 Cloudflare [04:17:30] Great Scott [04:17:36] right after I finished a page too [04:17:38] unlucky timing [04:17:56] back up [04:18:00] neato [04:18:07] bruh [04:25:35] I think it's was done using /noinclude [04:25:45] It will only be on the template but not on the article [04:26:40] [1/4] It would look like this: [04:26:40] [2/4] ``` [04:26:40] [3/4] [[Category:Infobox Templates]] [04:26:40] [4/4] /noinclude``` [04:28:15] doesnt seem to have worked 😿 [04:37:59] Link? [04:39:30] https://dreamland.miraheze.org/wiki/Kusanagi_I [04:39:42] its private though im not sure if I have to approve something [04:40:11] Ah, yeah, I can't see that. [04:41:50] is it possible to make a wiki public then private again? [04:42:00] Yes [04:42:12] Special:ManageWiki [04:42:56] done [04:51:47] Done [04:52:23] [1/5] You had also placed [04:52:24] [2/5] ``` [04:52:24] [3/5] [[Category:Infobox Templates]] [04:52:24] [4/5] /noinclude``` [04:52:24] [5/5] On the article. [04:52:30] I have removed it for you [04:52:45] You can now make it private again [04:53:04] ^ [04:54:38] [1/2] ⏲️ for me to go to 🛏️ [04:54:38] [2/2] almost 6 am [04:54:53] [1/2] 💤 [04:54:53] [2/2] 🛌🏻 [04:58:51] oh [04:59:14] couldve sworn I removed it after they mentioned this part [04:59:22] but ty, nighty night [05:31:05] Is there anyway to close down a wiki and then have the ability to reopen it when I do feel ready to start on it again? [05:31:26] @raceriel ^ [05:31:37] I think inactivity does that [05:52:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [05:53:04] If you want to cold storage what you did, use Special:DataDump to back up what you did [05:53:18] but we don't park subdomains indefinitely [05:57:25] If the wiki does get delete can I still reclaim the name of it after deletion? [05:57:30] Or would I have to choose a new name [05:58:41] If it's avaialble, you can claim it [05:58:46] if it's not, you need to grab a new thing [06:01:06] I mean like will the name be available after the wiki gets deleted [06:03:54] Or not? [06:20:17] [1/5] Here is the way of things: [06:20:17] [2/5] * A wiki goes dormant [06:20:18] [3/5] * A wiki gets closed [06:20:18] [4/5] * A wiki gets soft deleted, and the wiki still exists but isn't able to be visited [06:20:18] [5/5] * Once it's been dormant for 365 days, it may get hard deleted [06:20:39] After it gets hard deleted, someone else can request the same domain. if the wiki gets approved, now they have that subdomain [06:21:01] If nobody requests it, you're free to request it [06:24:46] Ahh I j see [06:24:53] Thank you [07:12:54] hmm. that seems to be what i want, ill see if i can get it installed [07:51:45] How I can get DisplayName in translated pages [08:18:25] That is literally just a gadget loaded from PHP lol [08:18:53] I don't think we should be installing the extension as it's maintained by HalloWelt [08:19:03] But somebody could probably turn it into a gadget [08:20:40] It's incompatible with 1.45 as it selects `mw-headline` () [08:21:07] @tedkalashnikov ^ [08:25:38] whatd they do [08:27:06] their extensions keep breaking with new MW versions, have unnecessary dependencies that randomly introduce breaking database changes, and for most extensions there's no proper issue tracker to report any of this [08:27:52] generally it doesn't make sense to install these extensions unless you're properly using BlueSpice [09:38:28] fair enough [13:58:47] how do i give someone bureaucrat in my wiki [14:00:10] Special:UserRights [14:05:00] thank you!! [14:24:06] Can I add external links in my wiki [14:24:19] yes diva [14:24:24] [https://helloworld Hi] [14:59:56] Exactly lol, I was clowning on it to Claire and Zppix last night in VC [15:02:39] You got Claire and Zppix in VC [15:06:57] Petrus too for a bit [15:07:12] It was real fun [15:07:20] We should do it more often [15:07:27] That channel finally saw use praise be [15:07:30] Definitely [15:07:56] I just hopped in because I was sitting and working on wiki [18:24:54] Server returned error: HTTP 502. [18:25:59] my server is down :c [18:26:38] Miraheze is down yup [18:27:07] Oh well it does work when I click retry this action [18:27:57] Nvm it’s down 🧌 [18:38:58] [1/2] why the logo of my wiki is a little pooper [18:38:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1467227675872460933/image.png?ex=697f9dc1&is=697e4c41&hm=9a505f96a5b352113044c9670839c14317e54bb68792e850ebaf1b588d918d5f& [18:44:12] Make sure it matches the expected sizes [18:44:34] A bit late but we are back [18:49:49] WOOOOOO [18:58:58] does discordnotificationsv3 not send a message when a file page is created to redirect to another file? [19:10:04] Where can I check them? [19:10:43] Is it not in the help text on ManageWiki? [19:56:41] [1/2] nothing [19:56:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1467247234474311876/image.png?ex=697faff8&is=697e5e78&hm=31f4f858dc45ed008dfd1a499b88dd9fd593717640bdb681da66c66f8eb94a6c& [19:57:45] [1/2] idk if this is an issue but [19:57:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1467247502603456656/copy_C7E70285-3228-4011-AB35-10A54374207C.mov?ex=697fb038&is=697e5eb8&hm=6c50c843473d29b3f8129872ff055fab38c1069d907c60e143f552d1e4441d4e& [20:04:21] You would need to go to the logo settings section [20:05:39] @cosmicalpha [20:05:45] See #No access too [20:06:04] looking [20:07:34] i just got sent here [20:07:37] forgot password [20:07:38] 😐 [20:08:07] You can reset your password on wiki [20:08:25] If you set an email [20:09:43] well [20:09:47] darn [20:10:19] i don't remember doing that either [20:10:34] I put an email in the send the reset link to box yesterday. [20:10:42] I can check if you let me know what the username is [20:10:58] Hungry Burger.EXE [20:11:05] I just use Trollpasta. [20:12:33] What wiki? [20:12:45] AVID [20:13:33] Sorry to tell you but you didn't @ol_rustyxx [20:13:38] damn [20:14:03] If you've completely forgot your password, you're locked out. If you're getting the same error as @ykm.matthew, that's not your password and we're looking. [20:14:25] it’s not cause i forgot my password [20:14:32] it’s just acting weird to log in [20:14:36] That is what I just said [20:14:46] I use bing so I'm not sure if deleting the cache will let me log in. [20:15:19] If you've forgot your password, deleting your cache won't help [20:15:30] If it's the same error as Matthew, feel free to try it [20:15:36] Worth a shot. [20:17:43] Welp. [20:18:37] I can't reproduce that issue. Very odd... [20:19:22] Anything in auth logs? [20:19:30] Uh @reception123 what [20:20:14] @notaracham mentioned the possibility of a later appointment in the RfP close and we've now agreed to it as the criteria was fulfilled [20:27:35] To copy my quick exchange with Reception [20:27:41] I’m concerned that this was announced and the role immediately granted with no notification or alert to the community at all [20:27:44] [1/2] To expand on that a bit: [20:27:45] [2/2] Practically, the original RfP for Chrs wasn't necessary - under policy volunteers may be reappointed to most previously-held roles if they left in good standing. Weighing the concerns raised in opposition against the need for more WRs, we waited on reconsidering appointment until a track record of contribution was demonstrated [20:28:42] As for the notification aspect, the policy clearly mentions it's not required in cases where " the candidate previously held the role and retired in good standing."" [20:28:51] and also, technically there was a notification of a potential future appointment in the RfC close [20:29:07] [1/3] I didn’t see the “override notice period for returning volunteers” part on my first read over, so policy as written, that’s fine, but it still feels, iffy to use here, given this is shortly after a failed RfP [20:29:07] [2/3] If the Stewards are all in agreement, I won’t stand in the way of that I guess, but I still don’t like it. [20:29:08] [3/3] Again, nothing against Chrs, I was likely leaning to support his initial request anyways [20:29:45] [1/2] But I read that exemption clause as an inclusion to prevent cases like say, Bob decided to step away from wiki for a few months and hangs up his WR hat, engaging a bit with the community, and then comes back and no one has issues and people don’t wanna wait a week [20:29:46] [2/2] That would be my read anyways, not necessarily saying that’s the only way [20:29:47] Yep, thanks for holding us accountable. Wanted to make clear what was happening and why as I was the +1 for proceeding. [20:30:26] Though in even in this Bob case, a notice to the community still makes sense [20:30:57] Frankly I can’t think of any case I would strongly support removing a notice requirement, exceptional circumstances not withstanding [20:31:27] Well I still do think that notice was given via the RfC close and if anyone had any concerns about our expressed intent, they could've raised them [20:31:38] And most potential concerns about Chrs' appointment were already raised during the RfP itself [20:31:53] Yeah, the sole complaint raised was concerns about activity, not competence. I'm not sure what a second notice period would accomplish [20:32:34] I think it's on a very fine line and reading of the policy. Automatic reappointment should personally expire as an option as soon as an RfP is opened. [20:32:39] The direct appointment procedure was established via RfC so the community chose to give Stewards discretion to decide, taking into account community feedback. If the community feels like that shouldn't be the case, another RfC to change that can always be opened [20:32:46] I think there's opportunity to clarify things [20:33:10] A fair point, I think the notice period component is a good callout [20:33:20] Seconded [20:33:22] I think there's limits to that discretion [20:33:39] There always is [20:33:46] But we can’t codify all of them [20:34:00] I'm not sure I would have made the same call and I would absolutely support a potential RfF to clarify a few loose ends here [20:34:31] This is a case I would personally disagree with if I were a Steward, but also, nothing I’m intent on making a fuss over [20:35:00] We find an area of contention in the policy, we can have a discussion on it to iron out the hicks [20:35:09] All forit [20:35:12] Still no issue with the appointment of Chrs in general [20:35:27] Yes congratulations to @_chrs_ [20:36:10] While not directly related to the procedure itself, I also think it's worth discussing what "qualities" we want to see in WRs. Do we mostly care about their knowledge and understanding of the CP and their ability to apply it or do we want to impose an unclear requirement of being "active in the community"? [20:36:36] Obviously being active is important but it's often difficult to get involved without having any specific roles or tasks [20:37:14] If I'm being completely honest, if I had no roles right now I'd find it quite difficult to find anything to help with on Meta. The best I could probably do is check requests on SR and help stewards out a little but that's not really relevant to the skills needed to be WR [20:37:41] we need all the WRs we can get, even if they dont end up being as active as our two gigantic carries [20:37:47] I think we'd at least need enough activity for a basic vibe check and a sense you intend to hang around [20:41:23] The logo has to be maximum 135x135px [20:41:53] Without knowing for sure, I expect that your logo is larger [20:41:54] Even if it's an SVG file? [20:42:14] erm... [20:42:53] 🤨 [20:43:22] Hang on.... [20:44:08] Sure [20:44:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLogos/en [20:45:00] but should follow the same size guidelines (nominally) as those keys, fitting within 135px wide and 155px tall when sized to 135px wide [20:45:12] Thank you!