[00:10:32] [1/2] Thankfully the 4o-powered model is pretty stable with an acceptable level of hallucination vs alternatives we tested. Not perfect, but for now it's necessary. [00:10:33] [2/2] Still looking at future options to improve on it [00:20:11] [1/2] As far as I'm aware, I don't know much commercial AIs that is slightly competent enough to validate a Wiki. [00:20:11] [2/2] -# Unless, you're Vedal whom programmed Neurosama by scratch without using an LLM, lol. [00:41:45] [1/2] the ideal solution, of course, is all human [00:41:45] [2/2] unfortunately we dont pay people for suffering in the queue mines so there will always be more requests than our awesome volunteers can handle [00:42:10] not gonna stop me from doing all I can to summon more people though [00:46:46] uh huh, summoning... [00:47:55] [1/2] I have a counter spell [00:47:55] [2/2] -# aka i don't have the willpower to read the requests my brain will get fogged up [00:49:22] i cast stimulants [00:50:51] Hah! jokes on thee, i can't drink coffee! [00:51:16] coffee either does nothing for me, or makes me sleepy [00:51:35] amphetamines 😋 [00:52:10] ive started using cold medication with pseudoephidrene because caffeine does nothing for me either [00:52:30] is that a good idea [00:52:36] haha. heavens no [00:53:00] -# *i just drink caffeinated drinks... i just can't drink coffee. [00:53:14] Mainly soda. [00:53:48] w a i t y a l l t a k e o t c ? [00:54:01] i have had prescription cough medicine lol [00:54:01] soda is nice... its a shame so many energy drinks taste awful [00:54:18] idk, i also like the taste of energy drinks ^^; [00:54:29] youre more powerful than i am [00:54:52] codeine 😋 [00:55:57] soon the holy pink monster will be in your hands [00:56:07] i should try it out someday [00:57:26] damn, just remember to take care of ye selves every once and a while, ehe [00:58:37] [1/2] i don't really drink energy drinks lol [00:58:37] [2/2] (or cough meds for that matter, i just had a _really_ bad cough that week) [01:02:14] white monster best!!!! [01:53:51] Hi [01:54:08] Anyone here [01:54:31] I want to enable visual editor to my wiki [01:55:59] If you are a Bureaucrat, you can enable it at https://yourwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-editors [01:56:15] !helper [01:56:20] for example https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-editors [02:05:18] Hi I have tried this but still visual editor is not working [02:05:20] ? [02:05:26] !helper [02:09:49] Visual editor not working despite enabling in Media Wiki extension [02:10:40] It may take a few minutes; sometimes the system takes a little while. [02:12:10] !admin [02:12:32] what are you trying to do [02:12:40] do these commands even work [02:13:48] Guest27: hello, Can you tell us which wiki it is? We could look into the problem. [02:14:37] ??? [02:14:45] !steward [02:14:49] !helper [02:14:57] !admin [02:15:09] These commands don’t work [02:15:17] Guest41: hello, Can you tell us which wiki it is? We could look into the problem. [02:16:09] Ucronista dm you [02:16:22] We have now raised a staggering $12,583.53, meaning we are now more than 50% of the way to our goal! https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Fundraiser [02:17:30] I am not here to donate atleast [02:17:41] MirahezeRelay [02:17:45] Guest41: I saw it, but I don't have permission to view your wiki :( @MacFan4000 Maybe I can help you. [02:18:05] Why but ucronista? [02:18:27] Aren't you a steward here? [02:18:40] Guest68: no they are not [02:18:57] Let me contact one. [02:19:47] So who can sort this issue [02:19:58] MacFan4000 [02:20:01] ? [02:21:41] Waiting 😮😞 [02:23:14] Guest68: VisualEditor wasn’t enabled [02:23:21] I just enabled it for you [02:23:48] But I did this locally to my wiki, anyways thanks lemme check [02:25:21] It is still not working [02:25:26] I have a screenshot [02:25:54] It can take a few minutes dew to cache [02:25:59] bonkers [02:26:10] Also be sure it isn’t disabled in your user preferences [02:26:22] No it isn't disabled in my preference [02:26:29] Can you please recheck personally [02:26:40] By deleting your browser cache [02:26:43] ? [02:26:53] Btw are you a steward here? [02:27:00] I can look in about an hour [02:27:14] I’m a tech team member [02:28:40] Okay so you are an employee here? [02:28:46] Or a volunteer! [02:28:48] ? [02:34:19] MacFan4000 [02:40:28] miraheze has no employees, just volunteers [02:42:56] They left [02:43:00] Like usual [02:59:48] -# What the hell was that...? [03:02:43] I’ve been trying to figure it out for the last couple years [04:02:17] have you perhaps found the answer [04:24:06] Got an error on AVID's main page: "[a3db4c090ade1d474650962a] 2026-02-23 04:22:49: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Assert\PreconditionException"" [04:29:12] Looking. [04:33:05] [1/12] ``` [04:33:05] [2/12] Precondition failed: Anchor node has a parent [04:33:05] [3/12] from /srv/mediawiki/1.45/vendor/wikimedia/assert/src/Assert.php(49) [04:33:06] [4/12] #0 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/extensions/ImageMap/includes/ImageMap.php(330): Wikimedia\Assert\Assert::precondition(bool, string) [04:33:06] [5/12] #1 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/Parser.php(3993): MediaWiki\Extension\ImageMap\ImageMap->render(string, array, MediaWiki\Parser\Parser, MediaWiki\Parser\PPTemplateFrame_Hash) [04:33:06] [6/12] #2 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/PPFrame_Hash.php(344): MediaWiki\Parser\Parser->extensionSubstitution(array, MediaWiki\Parser\PPTemplateFrame_Hash, bool) [04:33:07] [7/12] #3 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/PPTemplateFrame_Hash.php(86): MediaWiki\Parser\PPFrame_Hash->expand(MediaWiki\Parser\PPNode_Hash_Tree, int) [04:33:07] [8/12] #4 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/Parser.php(3259): MediaWiki\Parser\PPTemplateFrame_Hash->cachedExpand(string, MediaWiki\Parser\PPNode_Hash_Tree) [04:33:07] [9/12] #5 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/PPFrame_Hash.php(266): MediaWiki\Parser\Parser->braceSubstitution(array, MediaWiki\Parser\PPFrame_Hash) [04:33:07] [10/12] #6 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/PPTemplateFrame_Hash.php(166): MediaWiki\Parser\PPFrame_Hash->expand(MediaWiki\Parser\PPNode_Hash_Tree, int) [04:33:08] [11/12] #7 /srv/mediawiki/1.45/includes/parser/PPTemplateFrame_Hash.php(178): MediaWiki\Parser\PPTemplateFrame_Hash->getNamedArgument(string) [04:33:08] [12/12] ```` [04:34:29] I know why. Give me a moment and Ill try and fix. [04:46:40] Should be fixed [05:46:51] [1/2] In general, am I allowed to upload e.g. item icons to a game wiki to display them alongside the actual items? [05:46:52] [2/2] It seems to me like it could fall under fair use, but I have no experience with such things and would like to know whether Miraheze generally accepts things like this [05:50:27] yes that is an acceptable use [05:51:09] [1/2] Bonus question! How do I mark the licensing / How do I edit the license options to explain that? [05:51:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475369372032831538/image.png?ex=699d3c4d&is=699beacd&hm=6a8b18c00fd312b8641b0d040648e5743c1334b526e499360ef361c02110b2f8& [05:52:03] MediaWiki:Licenses iirc [05:52:55] Yeah that's where the `Edit license options` down in the bottom right there sends me [05:53:00] I'm just not sure what to write there [05:53:04] It's just a `-` atm [05:53:33] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_administration#Licensing [05:54:49] for example here's how the dead cells wiki handles their usage of game content: [05:55:01] (oh noooo im linking to another wikifarm oh noooooooo) [05:56:30] something something keeping it in the family leads to genetic defects [05:59:40] The italian brainrot wiki is interesting [06:05:09] Thank you [06:05:13] I appreciate the help :3 [06:05:36] [1/2] Could I ask if this is sufficient in your experience? [06:05:36] [2/2] https://ffx.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:GameCopyright [06:16:25] [1/4] ideally the template would answer (more directly) questions such as [06:16:25] [2/4] - who is the copyright owner [06:16:26] [3/4] - why you think it is fair use [06:16:26] [4/4] - how it won't harm the copyright owner [06:18:07] [1/3] ``` [06:18:07] [2/3] This material is created and owned by Square Enix. The copyright of this material is held by Square Enix. The usage of this material is believed to qualify as fair use under United States copyright law, as its use does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material. [06:18:07] [3/3] ``` better? [06:18:20] Very inspired by the Dead Cells one 😅 [06:19:04] [1/3] in general you won't face any issues from us unless they happen to be especially egregious [06:19:04] [2/3] the problem is almost always the copyright holder issuing DMCA strikes which we would comply with [06:19:05] [3/3] even nintendo is yet to strike down the mario wiki so I think you'll be fine with square enix who I have never heard of issuing such strikes [06:19:38] still missing the "how/why is it fair use" but otherwise pretty good [06:20:01] So does the Dead Cells example then lol [06:20:18] hm [06:20:19] I'm only missing "The use of images to illustrate articles concerning the subject of the images in question" [06:20:26] yeah that [06:20:29] which I suppose answers that, but not directly [06:20:33] Gotcha [06:22:23] I suppose less specific to images would be "enrichment of articles" [06:22:34] That works then, thank you again! [06:23:22] -# Updated! [06:49:39] yw ^^ [08:29:05] yes indeed [08:29:16] but regardless of your opinion on it [08:29:24] it's contents are forever preserved [08:29:34] due to the 500 forks or so available online [08:30:02] ranging from more wellknown such as italianbrainrot.wikioasis.org to the-world-of-italian-memes.fandom.com/wiki/Italian_Brainrot_home [09:08:30] Tbh how do you guys do country info boxes? [09:16:40] [1/2] I can’t seem to make these bullets white, how do I do that 🧌 [09:16:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475421090321797173/IMG_2979.png?ex=699d6c77&is=699c1af7&hm=c58e48f9773ffd7653f1e757f5a76426984a1805d3e048283df976986e58c6a4& [09:59:34] Thank y'all as always! 😄 [11:18:08] link? [11:22:26] I took that screenshot from https://blockstarplanet.miraheze.org/wiki/Season_1 [11:22:37] Im trying to make all bullets on the wiki white [11:22:57] I’d have to put something in common css which I’ve tried multiple times [11:23:01] But it just doesn’t work [11:24:11] [1/2] I tried this [11:24:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475453181571104950/IMG_2990.png?ex=699d8a5b&is=699c38db&hm=7bce82c3cf74b1d29a1c7b31eae5ea33ae5d67e7b5d9079dcd41090590b29008& [11:26:10] [1/6] hacky, but [11:26:10] [2/6] ```css [11:26:11] [3/6] li { [11:26:11] [4/6] list-style: none; [11:26:11] [5/6] } [11:26:11] [6/6] ``` [11:37:38] There's one on dev wiki you can import to your wiki: [11:43:06] Alright thanks [11:46:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475458761043869866/IMG_2997.png?ex=699d8f8d&is=699c3e0d&hm=f92974fb84431c06363ddf2164d9c0a68eb5055285d10d5583a99683849bf61f& [11:46:26] https://tenor.com/view/slap-table-green-alien-cat-angry-gif-15749651503962641516 [11:49:47] I'm a new user and I don't think I know where the special:import is [11:50:32] special:import is the name of the page [11:50:48] Ohhh [12:09:45] [1/2] I did that, but it now also added bullets to the navigation side panel, and contents [12:09:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475464645975474257/IMG_3004.png?ex=699d9508&is=699c4388&hm=95dfbb12b82b8cad8d3d7fd4e7e27a22d62bf82cc54ca7092507815fda76c6c0& [12:09:59] whoops [12:10:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475464739693002804/IMG_3005.png?ex=699d951e&is=699c439e&hm=0dcad5eeceb80ab1c138759dbda2cb4bfb508a9a815776f012062e62efbac886& [12:10:08] XDDDD [12:12:26] https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Fire_Rises_Wiki Been looking to overhaul the home page for the wiki, any tips or suggestions? [12:12:35] sorry if this is the wrong place to ask [12:12:52] i managed to keep it out of the portals, but dunno how to do it for toc... [12:13:22] oh wait [12:13:49] [1/8] ```css [12:13:49] [2/8] .mw-parser-output ul { [12:13:49] [3/8] list-style: disc; [12:13:50] [4/8] } [12:13:50] [5/8] #toc ul { [12:13:51] [6/8] list-style: none; [12:13:51] [7/8] } [12:13:51] [8/8] ``` [12:14:59] aha okay let me try this [12:17:06] whats the most styling you could ever get out of monobook [12:17:17] i want to see really cool examples of monobook [12:17:54] i find https://vylet.wiki cool, but idk if it qualifies as really cool [12:26:44] im wondering if its possible to make monobook look almost not monobook [12:27:15] probably, but i'm no ui designer, so idk what i would make it look like [13:13:46] [1/2] PEOPLE OF MIRAHEZE, I NEED THY HELP ONCE MORE [13:13:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1475480760667476131/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-23_131244.png?ex=699da40a&is=699c528a&hm=8114c4908a5c1459b6111d4126ab4c8c7ce82438f6a2c30413c22f008bdd5758& [13:13:59] i cant figure out how to fix this damn problem again [13:14:00] ;-; [13:14:35] <1224huangjin> hallooo [13:16:55] ...ok ima go lunch, someone ping me when you answer PLS [13:20:30] #needalink [13:30:38] lack of monobook jumpscare [13:35:27] whats the problem [13:38:48] this might sound stupid but what exactly is the point in downloading mediawiki [13:40:44] the titles appear on the left, vertically, and in the wrong places [13:41:02] you can see very well that in the pic [13:41:22] you need to link the page. otherwise there's no way to tell what's wrong with your code [13:42:42] https://amcfoundationofficial.miraheze.org/wiki/Suppression_Procedures?action=submit [13:42:44] there [13:43:25] its the software your wiki uses [13:43:48] does it need to be installed on my pc for me to able to edit wikis or [13:44:17] No [13:45:04] ah so,, what does having it serve? [13:46:15] good test place! [13:46:33] it's the software that Miraheze and Wikipedia use. if it doesn't exist, then MH and Wikipedia wouldn't exist either [13:47:06] you can run a personal instance on your computer to test things, yeah, though not sure if the user entirely understands what MediaWiki is [13:47:10] oh yeah no i understood that i meant the file you can install from the downloads page [13:47:25] okay thats all i needed to know, thanks haha [13:47:34] for whatever reason the synergies header is appearing where it shouldnt be [13:48:25]