[00:00:02] [1/2] someone says something in the internet relay chat channel, and it sends it here with their username at the front [00:00:02] [2/2] someone says something in here, and it sends it in the internet relay chat channel with their username at the front [00:00:50] this pskyechology person is scawyyyyy [00:14:24] Every time I hear about like chat integration, I think of that one VRChat lobby where avatars can talk to people in the real world, or that Portal that shut down because people couldn't don't know how to be decent human beings. [00:23:26] which one [00:23:31] (Portal) [00:25:26] It was the NYC-Dublin Portal [00:27:49] I think they reopened that at some point in a different spot, but idk what happened to that after its reopening [00:28:16] Quick question, how do I get this navbox to span the length of the page? The width=100% doesn't seem to be working lol 😅 [00:28:20] It was transferred to Philly [00:28:38] (ignore my other commented out code on this page lol) [00:29:42] is there a way to pass a multi lines content as a template parameter? [00:32:04] [1/2] The styling you have below applies to the header instead of the whole table. [00:32:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476013843913248850/image.png?ex=699f9483&is=699e4303&hm=497bfa347057d8984bcfa5f37b14e56bf20e8327b356e2a861d93da7f5f6bb56& [00:32:47] ohhh thanks! [00:35:36] though now that i look at it, i realize i probably don't need to encase it in a table... i can just use the navbox parameters instead, haha /clearly copied it from somewhere else on the wiki [00:36:10] Yeah this definitely looks like a navbox. [00:37:48] yeah, fixed/simplified. probably should've read the navbox documentation first 😅 thanks for taking a look at it, anyhow! [00:37:53] ah, nevermind me. [00:47:46] I visited that before it was axed [00:49:23] I never went to it, but I do wonder if the VRC equivalent is still running. [00:49:30] -# And properly moderated. [01:53:25] [1/4] just a lil help, this infobox uses cargo, it works fine for now theres nothing wrong with it, the problem arises with the "This template defines the table "Items". View table.", it always appaears if you link a page which uses the template, for example: [01:53:25] [2/4] https://itemasylum.miraheze.org/Air [01:53:26] [3/4] anyone knows how to hide that text? [01:53:26] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476034319419052144/image.png?ex=699fa795&is=699e5615&hm=22c66465216cc1011439644ed4ae4f5416274045b24a4984c309a4820fda7b73& [02:06:26] `cargo_declare` is inside `noinclude`, so you will only ever see it on the template page. Not sure what exactly you want to accomplish here since it shouldn't affect the readers' experience. You could put `cargo_declare` inside a hidden span or move it below `{{Documentation}}`, but that will only hide useful information. [02:48:45] i actually put it in the doc, as cursed as it sounds [02:49:15] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Template:Infobox_character#Cargo [02:59:20] :transheze: [02:59:29] who made my miraheze trans [03:00:15] The trans people on the tech team 🔥 [03:00:42] (I'm sure there's trans people elsewhere that just where I know there's some) [03:05:35] :3c [03:10:54] hello [03:22:42] A cisgender has infiltrated [03:39:43] actually don’t believe we have any other trans folks on the official teams [03:39:43] Oh huh [03:40:15] kept cargo_declare under documentation [03:40:23] https://itemasylum.miraheze.org/Air [03:40:30] well taht didnt work [03:40:38] ohhh [03:40:47] actually that might [03:40:48] help [03:41:41] @blankeclair is cargo_declare and cargo_store in the documentation? [03:44:30] i put declare in the docs, but store is in the lua module [03:44:38] oh [03:44:55] well i just kept the declare in the docs, left the store in the template page [03:44:57] should [03:45:03] work (hopefully) [04:10:06] [1/2] @posix_memalign oh hi lol [04:10:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476068716931321999/image.png?ex=699fc79e&is=699e761e&hm=5d8ac76e7cd975f82cbfa01da4ae8f95e7d705d9f42e7027bb97177d7c509930& [04:11:54] [1/2] I think it's a textextracts issue, which is hopefully fixed by the new class. [04:11:54] [2/2] Though it still makes no sense now that I think about it. [04:12:12] Perhaps null editing can help as well. [04:14:53] who [04:17:39] Claire and Skye are the two I know of [04:18:49] cool [04:37:14] it's funny how the transheze logo is much smaller than the miraheze logo [04:38:52] Smol yet powerful. [04:39:17] Representative of the minority/j [04:39:28] Lol. [04:43:39] mirnahenze [04:44:18] Transaheze™. [04:45:53] swag [05:06:28] :EpicFaceMH: [07:29:14] If I need .SQL backup of my wiki database - can anyone from the technical team able to do it? [07:40:41] uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh answer is gonna be either no or very difficult [07:40:51] you can make xml dumps via special:datadump tho [08:09:27] Yes, but if I need to import into my local DB server which is mysql then how do I do that? [08:12:39] [[mw:manual:importDump.php]] [08:12:39] [10:02:56] What would happen to my account if the wiki where I originally created my account gets closed? [10:03:03] nothing [10:10:45] welcome to meta miraheze [10:32:04] Why do you need to import it into your local DB? We do not offer MySQL exports as they contain private data. [11:04:55] [1/3] I hate this thing [11:04:55] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476173106363109417/IMG_3210.png?ex=69a028d6&is=699ed756&hm=d279c9209a785988f191cb9f5cc6a2cc7d0c93bba8756b4ec1ec87270efd42de& [11:04:55] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476173106774016170/IMG_3211.png?ex=69a028d6&is=699ed756&hm=1f72f475bc1b6d255024daad3bfd0a73e2a0e59c2035e6369dd74406e6a46150& [11:05:18] Suddenly I have to re-verify ownership [11:06:50] Oh hold on I don’t think I’m supposed to use this one [11:07:01] [1/2] How can I change this logo? [11:07:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476173635596189778/Screenshot_2026-02-25-19-06-02-180_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg?ex=69a02954&is=699ed7d4&hm=0bcb5d7e1a36f4e089c1bf1360a1934bf5fb0ae51613357fcd36c724dd37fb90& [11:11:28] [[Help:How to change my logo or favicon]] [11:11:29] [11:34:36] It seems that micropedia.uk is not hosted on Miraheze. Parts of the guide may apply to your wiki, but much of the content was written with only Miraheze-specific services in mind. [12:41:35] [1/3] Am I doing something wrong 😔😔 [12:41:35] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476197433422905377/IMG_3226.png?ex=69a03f7e&is=699eedfe&hm=98c80861de361a639859d8389fe764545bc1cfed640356011076a4b922ba26f5& [12:41:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476197433867370546/IMG_3227.png?ex=69a03f7e&is=699eedfe&hm=49d198991b58af4d416ea911601ed9522f69ffc3bfa316300b88dd2219156039& [12:41:48] [1/2] I feel like I'm experiencing the Mandella effect, but I could swear there was some mention about the Markdown extension and how there was an alternative one could activate in their wiki. [12:41:48] [2/2] Am I remembering this wrong? [12:42:14] I don't think you should actually share this publicly [12:42:19] Oh [12:42:22] whoops [12:43:40] [1/3] Oh actually it doesn’t even matter lol [12:43:40] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476197957781950484/IMG_3226.png?ex=69a03ffb&is=699eee7b&hm=b59eebe15c6ddfa5a171d718bb23d5232e06d0553c807e23e9865b8d80af0593& [12:43:40] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476197958323146792/IMG_3227.png?ex=69a03ffb&is=699eee7b&hm=2465d24e1ef24c87abd95ee857f6196ce4f328fbad67d4346f4543eaa7d148a5& [12:43:48] yeah idk what I’m doing wrong 🧌 [12:44:26] Oh nevermind [12:44:28] It succeeded [12:46:25] google search console verification meta tag values aren't secret [12:48:16] XDDD [12:48:23] Isn’t it only an issue when you haven’t verified it yet? [12:51:19] theres nothing you can do with that value [13:01:46] [1/4] Hello, buddies! [13:01:46] [2/4] Recently, I’ve been having an issue on my Miraheze Wiki, where no administrator has been able to create new pages – even with the createpage permission... [13:01:47] [3/4] I apologize in advance, as I don’t understand much about this, and, no one in my group does either, so we’ve come here humbly to ask for help regarding this issue. [13:01:48] [4/4] And, for sure, the intention is simply for administrators to be able to create pages, after all. [13:12:59] what is the wiki's subdomain [13:22:36] how would you make text scale to the maximum that it can be [13:22:44] inside of a container [13:22:53] like it fits but it's the largest it can be while fitting [13:25:31] You probably set the font size to 100% [13:31:00] it doesn't work [13:39:09] thebigmeio.miraheze.org [13:49:57] (handled in https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1476202997745844275) [14:21:19] [1/2] https://meta.wikivy.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=500&days=30&enhanced=1&urlversion=2 [14:21:19] [2/2] And there is SkyWiki, WikiOrises, and Amazing wikis and so on. Why are Miraheze clones popping up like weeds in my home's garden? [14:22:52] easier to build off the work of others [14:24:05] Amazing Wikis has like 50k words of rules - a simgle "claim" in Taerel wiki is 50k words [14:26:15] [1/2] nice css btw [14:26:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476223775984062514/image.png?ex=69a05807&is=699f0687&hm=6b5dcebfca2b02d767f4685ead5fa418f76e576b847026926901daf17b34adfe& [14:27:07] I mean, even I can do better CSS then that [14:27:57] Miraheze has about 26 pages of rules, counting only English rules in: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Global_policies [14:33:41] I just feel all these "Miraheze clones" are basicly those "Made in China" knockoff prodcts [14:35:41] to place it on their linkedin profile [14:36:06] why are the footers so big 😭 [14:36:25] That's what I said :sob: [14:37:47] IWF's icon being horrendiously small, while their own (and ugly) icon being larger than both CC BY NC SA and IWF MEMBER icons combined [14:44:34] its too amazing [14:44:38] https://tenor.com/view/luke-moment-graphic-design-gif-11939076132639903483 [14:44:58] [1/2] I wouldn't use the discord to pull down other peoples efforts. Miraheze has had its share of issues in the past, so I can't imagine its easy being a new wiki farm. [14:44:58] [2/2] If I think back to all the wiki farms I've seen pop up like Referata or Tropical Wikis. Or even Shoutwiki, I woild aay its best to respect their efforts. [14:45:39] I am confused why so many are popping up [14:46:43] because the miraheze tech stack is not fatally difficult to recreate and its not all that hard to come up with something that can service a handful of small projects well enough, which is the foot in the door for capability, and then come up with a mission that is sufficiently distinct in people or purpose [14:47:10] There are obviously people who see a gap to set these up. [14:47:28] it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes but in a few cases the difference is justified either by the split history (shoutwiki, amazing wikis) or by the market appeal of being just smaller and bureaucratically unencumbered in comparison (oasis, shout) [14:47:35] Tbh I think the farms do have the thing of "why not just go to Miraheze, known as stable/long term" [14:47:51] I mean we haven't always been very good at that [14:48:02] You lasted what, 5 years now? [14:48:08] I actually do appreciate and encourage alternate projects and there are real gaps in our service platforms built from scratch can address [14:48:24] I had one wiki farm die on my while my wiki was hosted there [14:48:28] though unfortunately few of the alternatives really do address the largest I can think of but even so [14:48:59] ivy as I understand it is going to be undergoing a change soon and skywiki is no longer really its own entity [14:49:05] That is my worry about these small farms, that like MWzip, they are flash in the pan [14:49:18] What sort of change? [14:49:33] each of these projects do have a history and it is true some are a flash in a pan, and a few I would very strongly discourage though there's no point doing so now for the most problematic I can think of [14:49:54] I'm going to let ivy address that one at their own pace [14:50:09] Even shoutwiki and Wikidot are basicly dying [14:50:40] shoutwiki is in the most promising position I've seen in years actually with intent to update to a supported release and finally fix its broken creation system. If it does that it is in contention again [14:50:52] wikidot I would agree is on its way out though [14:51:03] I personly think if one wanted to host a free wiki, Miraheze is still the best choice - free, stable and supported [14:51:28] I think miraheze makes a fair sell at this point but it is not the only sell and it should not be a monopolist on the alt farm market [14:51:30] Self hosting is for people who can afford a server and have a lot of time [14:52:14] I once had to spend hours fixing an error so I could have a landing page that was not google sites [14:52:27] I basically run a wiki for 2.50 a month that's almost completely managed and has a crapton of extra service space via namecheap so its not a terribly hard thing to do but it helps it has extremely little audience [14:52:37] not namecheap [14:52:39] namecrane [14:53:31] I pay nothing for my hosting but well, it also relies on a flickering internet [14:53:40] you can make a virtually free thing on nearlyfreespeech.net if you have an arch linux mentality of follow instructions and get it going but that one is a bit more of an investment and I had some problems I wasn't really willing to go the whole nine yards for but for a static site that has low traffic its basically perfect [14:54:00] people smarter than me at monitoring the market can probably anecdotally support even better self host arrangements [14:54:37] in any case the bottom line is there are few alternate farms that make genuinely no pitch at all over something else, alternatives should exist and best of luck to them, and there's even more market for something distinct [14:54:56] What do you think could be a good distint farm? [14:55:23] miraheze I think is relatively good at the 'host as much as possible' thing but there are some things we just can't really do or some hills we're not going to die on like nsfw, and our organizational status makes us untenable for various political-scope wikis [14:55:36] wikigrid is closest available to being an option in some of those cases [14:57:27] we're still on the table for nsfw projects I should say but that's becoming increasingly difficult and there is probably market for a farm which specifically has an ideological pitch to host things while spitting in the face of moral panic [14:58:28] for casual projects that find our request process intimidating or are 'edged out' on policy concerns, excluding nsfw as oasis is more firmly against than we are, oasis may well be the better pick since it is much smaller bureaucratically [14:58:44] there is a service tradeoff to that but it has managed to hold up for some years [14:59:32] I can say similar for most farms on the market although there's a couple I can only shrug and a couple I have very strong reasons to discourage, but at this point both have changed in a way that makes that kind of commentary moot now [15:00:50] I should also probably note I have a stake in several such projects; an advisory role in oasis, a staff role at telepedia which mostly comes down to a single wiki's operations, really you'll likely find me somewhere in the immediate family of farms built on the miraheze stack in particular [15:01:11] though telepedia has made a hard fork from the miraheze stack [15:03:56] question, how do I make something that has tabs, like a table that has data and depending on the tab that is select, the table changes it's information. Think of it similar to regular internet pages. [15:07:35] hold on let me get an example [15:08:20] I know you can use and
for info boxes. Not sure if that also works for tabs more generally [15:08:58] [1/4] its something similar to this [15:08:59] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476234525276110901/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-24_120025.png?ex=69a06209&is=699f1089&hm=9d40f54e4230a9078eb5527934c815f1497b374c5dc52511302ffc151dbba9d2& [15:08:59] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476234525779431424/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-25_150815.png?ex=69a0620a&is=699f108a&hm=552e50eb414eeffef25e5482aca06517bba8520c1a2532fb0e5a0f5ff793fcc7& [15:08:59] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476234526274355393/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-25_150829.png?ex=69a0620a&is=699f108a&hm=c2759cf248a2de100903145ff6cedb4b307e2f58314108473061ec14619e6be2& [15:10:22] Try Surrounding the block of text with
and /section, then each individual tab with and /panel [15:11:20] [1/3] it worked for me when creating this infobox [15:11:20] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476235121744019577/image.png?ex=69a06298&is=699f1118&hm=76e089bf11598d71ce66bdb08df9029df9035612ac9ad35942bccdbc3c62ce89& [15:11:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476235122142351400/image.png?ex=69a06298&is=699f1118&hm=662e1ff48f1b034d7abec8846c4be5368c02b46eff83c98e298bf08da14e4c01& [15:12:16] oh, and start each with