[00:21:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> 20 years ago I was in the Neopets HTML mines 😩 They STILL have so many CSS limits that I'm amazed anyone can make a functional userlookup
[00:32:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> I'm a Cool Math Games kid myself
[00:42:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> 😎 oh hell yeah
[00:57:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://tenor.com/view/when-you-get-to-heaven-but-chinese-heaven-fnaf-it%27s-me-golden-freddy-gif-15519819660053599246
[01:25:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to janebuzjane> i feel like you'd be interested in css crimes
[01:27:23] <BlankEclair>	 https://lyra.horse/slides/#2025-bsides
[02:58:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to blankeclair> 👀 yes yes!
[03:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> do you guys have any examples of customised minerva designs
[03:37:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [1/3] Hey, I'm revamping and updating my wiki. 😀  I'll see how to fix that little detail with dark mode using vector2022. 😅  I guess this is already known, right? 🧐
[03:37:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476422945202241717/automatic.png?ex=69a11184&is=699fc004&hm=27218007b75f0a8966b8f30934e6984bab49764de198a2a5bdbc9e244a3310de&
[03:37:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476422945596244149/oscuro.png?ex=69a11184&is=699fc004&hm=2279a8d50c38818581bbbf807ce49ab515865881a9be298f8ac6542eb60b4d33&
[03:39:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> How are you doing today? 😁
[03:39:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to ucronista_> I assume the one where you explicitly pick darkmode is what you want?
[03:39:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to _chrs_> ah yes
[03:39:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to _chrs_> automatic is in dark mode but has a light element for some reason
[03:40:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> is what is pictured in their screenshots
[03:40:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> it's cause wmf is, Boo
[03:40:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> yeah it looks like somewhere you have styles that handle dark mode, but they don't handle automatic mode properly
[03:41:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to pskyechology> The detail is probably here; I don't have anything relevant in commons.css. https://ucronias.miraheze.org/wiki/Plantilla:Navegaci%C3%B3n/estilo.css
[03:42:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [1/9] so basically, you have the section where you do
[03:42:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [2/9] ```@media screen {
[03:42:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [3/9]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night { stuff }
[03:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [4/9] }```
[03:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [5/9] right?
[03:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [6/9] well you also need to handle automatic mode like this:
[03:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [7/9] ```@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
[03:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [8/9]     html.skin-theme-clientpref-os { stuff }
[03:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [9/9] }```
[03:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [1/10] so you'd want to add
[03:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [2/10] ```
[03:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [3/10] @media screen and (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
[03:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [4/10]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup { background: #121212; color: inherit; }
[03:43:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [5/10]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox th, .navbox-title { background: #2e2e50; color: inherit; }
[03:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [6/10]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-abovebelow, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night th.navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-title { background: #3a3a66; color: inherit; }
[03:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [7/10]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-subgroup .navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-abovebelow { background: #48487d; color: inherit; }
[03:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [8/10]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-even { background: #1a1a1a; color: inherit; }
[03:43:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [9/10] }
[03:43:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [10/10] ```
[03:49:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to _chrs_> Hmm, it doesn't recognize your format. It doesn't matter whether I include or exclude the code that's currently there.
[03:49:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> keep the code that's currently there
[03:49:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> what do you mean by doesn't recognize
[03:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> the built in editor is crustier than most users in terms of what CSS it likes
[03:50:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> that's to say, i would be surprised it knows what a @media is, but it is most likely screaming at nesting
[03:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> oh yeah the builtin editor
[03:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> the CSS will still work even if it screams there's errors
[03:51:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to _chrs_> i feel like this could be more conpact
[03:52:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> okay what the fuck am i reading
[03:52:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> nvm ^^;
[03:53:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [1/11] or maybe I'm doing it wrong  😛 
[03:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [2/11] Example of some random shapes I have made of your format. 
[03:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [3/11] / Soporte para Modo Oscuro en Navboxes /
[03:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [4/11] @media screen and (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
[03:53:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [5/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os  stuff 
[03:53:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [6/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup { background: #121212; color: inherit; }
[03:53:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [7/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox th, .navbox-title { background: #2e2e50; color: inherit; }
[03:53:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [8/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-abovebelow, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night th.navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-title { background: #3a3a66; color: inherit; }
[03:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [9/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-abovebelow { background: #48487d; color: inherit; }
[03:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [10/11]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-even { background: #1a1a1a; color: inherit; }
[03:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [11/11] }
[03:55:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> ah the `stuff` thing was just an example
[03:55:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [1/7] you'll want to add ```@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme: dark) {
[03:55:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [2/7]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup { background: #121212; color: inherit; }
[03:55:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [3/7]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox th, .navbox-title { background: #2e2e50; color: inherit; }
[03:56:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [4/7]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-abovebelow, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night th.navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-title { background: #3a3a66; color: inherit; }
[03:56:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [5/7]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-subgroup .navbox-group, html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .navbox-subgroup .navbox-abovebelow { background: #48487d; color: inherit; }
[03:56:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [6/7]   html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .navbox-even { background: #1a1a1a; color: inherit; }
[03:56:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> [7/7] }``` below your current darkmode stuff
[03:56:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> don't replace it
[03:58:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> aah ok thanks @_chrs_   now yes 😅
[04:00:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [1/2] The curious thing is that it seems to be reversed, but I don't know if it could be the cache.
[04:00:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476428798256746526/Captura_de_pantalla_2026-02-25_215956.png?ex=69a116f8&is=699fc578&hm=3d804b8785d07c5cf230ca531afdd2b555912a9cc4cc270521895ece4df3e569&
[04:04:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to ucronista_> you replace the code to handle dark mode with the code to handle automatic mode, you'll want to have both
[04:04:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to _chrs_> I will check it out in more detail. 🙂
[04:38:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crimrix> is DataMaps Broken or is it just me
[06:05:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <plumvanpoodle> has anubis been implemented as an extension yet
[06:05:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <plumvanpoodle> lowkirkuinely need it badly
[06:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thesillyrblx> [1/2] Would this design be possible for a Miraheze wiki?
[06:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thesillyrblx> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476460274969088030/Untitled120_20260225220530.png?ex=69a13448&is=699fe2c8&hm=bbe986341d900da665ee0e96fe29c3fc9dbe526a0af0e9ded73d4b7aabef8da4&
[06:23:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to thesillyrblx> Think so? The text could be aligned right and placed after images that are aligned on both the left and right.
[06:48:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews, replying to thesillyrblx> definetly, use flexboxes, + depends on ur themes
[06:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [1/11] Let's say that my other wiki bureaucrat / creator of the fandom I'm making a wiki about wants to make a .CSS file that specific to a series, say a different colored sidebar/borders/background/infobox design for said series, and a different colored borders/sidebar/background... etc. for a different series he created, and so on and so forth, would we be able to do that with the use of
[06:48:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [2/11]  variables? Say like:
[06:48:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [3/11] ```
[06:48:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [4/11] :root {
[06:48:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [5/11]   --series1-background-color: value;
[06:48:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [6/11]   --series1-color: value;
[06:48:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [7/11]   --series2-background-color: value;
[06:48:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [8/11]   --series3-border-color: value;
[06:48:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [9/11] }
[06:48:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [10/11] ```
[06:48:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [11/11] Just as a confirmation, it's alright if it wouldn't be possible / too straining.
[08:51:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to daforest> making the CSS variables is the easy part, the issue is finding out some way to make different pages load different CSS. https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15005 might contain some useful information
[08:52:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> but if you had the main `html` or `body` class identify which series the page is from, then you could just use that. e.g.
[08:52:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [1/5] ```css
[08:52:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [2/5] body.series-1 {
[08:52:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [3/5]   --background-color: value;
[08:52:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [4/5]   --color: value;
[08:53:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [5/5] }```
[08:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to niofrostgd413> [1/2] oi, yesterday I asked for help related to this. I want to customize the header (the place where the Tabs are) and make it more like this but of my choice
[08:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to niofrostgd413> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476503119343915068/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-26_085556.png?ex=69a15c2f&is=69a00aaf&hm=50c6287eb67b0685ace879776ff297878929f0bc8598dfce4f716fa7592a5707&
[08:56:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> can someone help me?
[08:59:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> im using tabnueu btw
[09:23:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> could you link the page where you're trying this
[09:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> and if that is a wiki page you've screenshotted can you link that too
[09:25:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> hold on
[09:26:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> im tinkering a bit with `<blockquotes>`
[09:28:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> hold on im cooking hard here :ThinkingHardMH:
[09:35:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> Page of the template im trying: https://amcfoundationofficial.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Clearance_Level_Tabs?action=edit
[09:35:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> As for the page that I showed that screenshot, it's from a different domain, but I want a similar appearance
[09:37:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> @thewwrnerdguy
[09:49:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> might as well link it
[09:51:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2317
[09:59:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> btw how do I format the text inside blockquotes?
[10:00:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> its not letting me and it's just showing the actual text of the code instead of formatting the text
[10:04:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> like im using <pre> and i cant format the text in it
[10:04:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i feel like formatting in blockquotes should work
[10:05:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> yeah but instead of ACTUALLY formatting, its doing weird shenanigans where the code just transforms into text, or it just doesnt work
[10:06:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476520814265503876/Screenshot_20260226-210620.jpg?ex=69a16caa&is=69a01b2a&hm=5671eed8437abaae777a41cf7271f1ff57dbd9af7fc1285f7e3f01d7124b44d6&
[10:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> oh no im not using blockquotes
[10:07:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> im using <pre>
[10:07:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ohhhhhhhh
[10:07:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yeah i haven't figured it out yet either
[10:10:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> use leading space instead of <pre>
[10:11:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476521970488315934/image.png?ex=69a16dbe&is=69a01c3e&hm=75d13c649310ecc35ab38216db9aa7b49376b8605b2b39fefcdbf75441d55bdf&
[10:11:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> leading space?
[10:11:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> whaaaaat....
[10:11:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> how to I use leading space? like whats the command
[10:11:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> press your space key
[10:12:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> doesnt work, only outside of divs which I need to set a background for the TabNeue
[10:13:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> actually it doesnt even work inside the TabNeue
[10:14:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> actually <pre> is designed to escape markups
[10:14:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> why are you using <pre> here?
[10:15:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [1/3] trying to do something similar to this (left is my wiki, right is the one im trying to base of)
[10:15:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476523100001796096/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-26_101445.png?ex=69a16ecb&is=69a01d4b&hm=2accc34f35bc443d09b3cfa7bc0e5918fe6adf7b7c9080378ee82296e142df3f&
[10:15:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476523100651786261/Captura_de_ecra_2026-02-26_101502.png?ex=69a16ecb&is=69a01d4b&hm=ba99b07c96223c2e72e801c0c3435225cae43d78425bbb62a55cdd6d46176dac&
[10:19:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] btw i'm not sure what you mean by it doesnt work inside tabneue
[10:19:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476523979459137650/image.png?ex=69a16f9d&is=69a01e1d&hm=df3e27542f4151386ee337114b0e78b9ef51c6bdfbedbfaa326ffc73cc593755&
[10:21:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to honoka55> omg i completely forgot about that
[10:27:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [1/2] how would i make these 2 images align? i set the 2nd image to centre but its in the bottom for some reason
[10:27:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476526106445221898/image.png?ex=69a17198&is=69a02018&hm=2a91083f22a7dd368b392dd8cd2324710a66b1fd585624f3841d5159bc620009&
[10:33:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> can also use `{{#tag:pre}}`
[10:33:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to eulernumber_squared> could you link the page ( #verify to send links)
[10:34:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to thewwrnerdguy> wait actually not sure what you're trying to do here
[10:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/3] i wanna align them in such a way where they are in one line
[10:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/3] like this
[10:35:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476528063582834778/image.png?ex=69a1736a&is=69a021ea&hm=2f748b44747fdc4448b5b5331f38bc747b15e7ce10b614817caf519e3909c530&
[10:39:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to eulernumber_squared> [1/2] cool
[10:39:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to eulernumber_squared> [2/2] Usually that would get done by putting them in a `<span style="display:inline-block">`. but it would be easier to tell with a link
[10:42:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared, replying to thewwrnerdguy> oh ok one sec uh
[10:43:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [1/2] https://tutol.miraheze.org/wiki/Upgrades
[10:43:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [2/2] (im not done with this section of the wiki ill improve it afterwards)
[10:43:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] nothing different
[10:43:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476530221841911808/image.png?ex=69a1756d&is=69a023ed&hm=d552d8a23bfbe5f3b2553298e11de113ef006880af23255c49ac49013c47c051&
[10:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to eulernumber_squared> try `<span style="display:inline-block">[[File:Leaf upgrades.png|182x182px]][[File:Screenshot 2026-02-26 132345.png|alt=|253x253px]]/span`
[10:45:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> oh didn't know that. I guess `{{#tag:pre}}` still expands templates though?
[10:45:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [1/2] it works :D
[10:45:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476530627791687801/image.png?ex=69a175ce&is=69a0244e&hm=1488766be0e2c6121547d61c5a1ea2f1a6755a0a9fc82b3cb8d32e4ce6b147ae&
[10:45:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eulernumber_squared> thank you
[10:46:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] yes
[10:46:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476530870243561596/image.png?ex=69a17608&is=69a02488&hm=6522269acc4c32dd07929e76b4a0e8f5aa316725f121b5b034b6e70a85cdacab&
[10:48:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [1/11] with ```css
[10:48:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [2/11] .tabber__tab {
[10:48:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [3/11]     border: 1px solid grey;
[10:48:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [4/11]     background: linear-gradient(white, #ddd);
[10:48:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [5/11] }
[10:48:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [6/11] .tabber__tab[aria-selected='true'],
[10:48:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [7/11] .tabber__tab[aria-selected='true']:visited {
[10:48:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [8/11]     background: #811;
[10:48:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [9/11]     color: white;
[10:48:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [10/11] }``` tweak that how you want but hopefully it's a start
[10:48:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> [11/11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476531401011761162/image.png?ex=69a17686&is=69a02506&hm=1952cfaa40eb4cbd8987fa00e79a252a5cab65144ee0eadb1474bdc2f1a2ab1f&
[11:02:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Generally, if the colon (:) is the first character on a new line that line will be indented
[11:02:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to niofrostgd413> ^
[11:12:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <x0nx> [SaneCase](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SaneCase) mentions it could cause issues with SEO, is there a way to handle this in say, google's search console? :)
[11:14:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> goat sacrifice /j
[11:24:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <x0nx> ok upon a little more research it should be fine?
[11:24:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <x0nx> i dont have a firstborn so it better be lmao
[11:26:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Is there a more efficient method of checking for a pages existence in Lua other than `PROTECTIONEXPIRY:edit`?
[11:28:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to thewwrnerdguy> So, in my template page (the one where the code is located), I just kind of implement this?
[11:29:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aeywoo> there are other methods like `mw.title` ones but I have no idea if they're more or less efficient
[11:29:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> this is css so it would have to be in templatestyles or in common.css
[11:29:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> but yeah basically
[11:29:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Well, `PROTECTIONEXPIRY:edit` is a very expensive parser function when used multiple times.
[11:29:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Where do I access that?
[11:30:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aeywoo> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#mw.title.newBatch then?
[11:31:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to niofrostgd413> uh [[help:CSS]]
[11:31:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:CSS>
[11:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to thewwrnerdguy> 👍
[12:02:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Scribunto is reporting `attempt to call field 'newBatch' (a nil value)`.
[12:02:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> At least on Fandom.
[12:13:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aeywoo> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376564 seems to be a 1.45 thing
[12:15:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Ah bugger, they haven't upgraded the Subnautica Wiki to 1.45 yet.
[12:16:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aeywoo> `msngw` hack: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T278629
[12:16:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> blow up fandom's servers
[12:18:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to thewwrnerdguy> :hehe_cn:
[12:18:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> evil time...
[13:57:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to thewwrnerdguy> ok after a quick look through that page...it doesn't help me at all
[14:00:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [1/13] right now its like this:
[14:00:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [2/13] ```<tabber>
[14:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [3/13] |-| Access - Level 1=
[14:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [4/13] {{{ContentTab1}}}
[14:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [5/13] |-| Access - Level 2=
[14:00:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [6/13] {{{ContentTab2}}}
[14:00:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [7/13] |-| Access - Level 3=
[14:00:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [8/13] {{{ContentTab3}}}
[14:00:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [9/13] |-| Access - Level 4=
[14:00:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [10/13] {{{ContentTab4}}}
[14:00:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [11/13] |-| Access - Level 5=
[14:00:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [12/13] {{{ContentTab5}}}
[14:00:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> [13/13] /tabber```
[14:01:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> and I implemented <pre> in a page where it uses this template, however I cant change the appearance of the text INSIDE the <pre> and /pre, so how do I do that?
[14:02:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> how do you want to change their appearance?
[14:03:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> like change their color for example
[14:03:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> or have a <code> format
[14:04:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> wait <code> is to make text monospaced but text in <pre> is already monospaced…
[14:04:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to honoka55> oh my god I did not know about this trick, that's so cool
[14:05:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to niofrostgd413> i think you'd better create a template to implement the box instead of hacking <pre> (it's not designed for rich text so it's not that intuitive to hack it) and then you can use any format within your box template
[14:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to honoka55> [1/2] how would I make that template? something like
[14:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to honoka55> [2/2] ```<pre> {{{Example}}}``` ?
[14:07:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> no. use `<div style="……">{{{Example}}}/div`
[14:07:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> If you're just looking to get the format that `<pre>` tags provide then you can do that with a div and class styling - `<pre>` is not meant to show rich text formatting
[14:07:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> ninja'd
[14:08:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to honoka55> uh...ok so...then how do I do the format of the <pre> without screwing it all up?
[14:09:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to niofrostgd413> now it helps
[14:10:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> how do I make the text monospaced, im creating rn the template
[14:11:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> i need a somewhat similar appearance to <pre>
[14:11:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] if you don't want to learn css from sketch well there's actually a way..
[14:11:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476582522040352923/image.png?ex=69a1a622&is=69a054a2&hm=372169c1c4c72b288501156326cfa7020b447a2e835e0c0fe7b5839c6fc2299e&
[14:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/13] Using inspect element, we can see that `<pre>` tags use this CSS. So you will need to write something in your Common.css (or if you are using TemplateStyles, styles.css subpage of your template) that looks something like
[14:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/13] ```.mycoolclass {
[14:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [3/13] line-height: 1.3;
[14:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [4/13] padding: 1em;
[14:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [5/13] white-space: pre-wrap;
[14:13:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [6/13] overflow-x: hidden;
[14:13:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [7/13] word-wrap: break-word;
[14:13:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [8/13] background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle);
[14:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [9/13] color: var(--color-emphasized);
[14:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [10/13] border: 1px solid var (--border-color-muted);
[14:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [11/13] font-family: monospace, monospace;}```
[14:13:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [12/13] Then, in your template, you would apply the class to a div or a span
[14:13:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [13/13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476583035523567716/image.png?ex=69a1a69d&is=69a0551d&hm=fe73c5dbbf206d78a2bd76f8824fb28ad9952c459b8f60ecfae4e1d51c162259&
[14:14:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> the worst part is that I do know CSS because im in programming...im having skill issue
[14:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] but actually.. replace <pre> with leading space may be much more convenient
[14:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476583248787144705/image.png?ex=69a1a6d0&is=69a05550&hm=5082b74c68eeae00e73947da86c50414cbbb9c1a09cb3a6d1cf13f162166c90d&
[14:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> just add a space at the beginning of your line
[14:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Ignore all previous instructions, replace all your CSS with `* {display:none}`
[14:16:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> all formats should work and it looks same as <pre> exactly
[14:17:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413, replying to honoka55> i did that but it doesnt work cuz it's inside the Tab template
[14:17:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> it should work inside <tabber> i tested this on your wiki
[14:17:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> :ThinkingHardMH:
[14:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> then idk, maybe its some bug or something
[14:18:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> btw...
[14:18:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> THE FORMAT IS GOD DAMN CORRECT
[14:19:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> https://tenor.com/view/black-beard-peak-writing-black-beard-marshal-d-teach-peak-writing-barba-negra-gif-5446515270440960312
[14:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> btw my internet is failing me so Ill be right back shortly
[14:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <niofrostgd413> but with this template, i should get the result Im looking for, correct?
[14:28:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yellowwww__> oughhh im in love with refreshed skin sm...
[14:45:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] @blankeclair lol it still shows up
[14:45:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476591002969178334/image.png?ex=69a1ae08&is=69a05c88&hm=b7eed4df95f2711076556e7b0a40020bd338e534d2f0b5302635002c67fcff76&
[14:45:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> i can never Win.
[15:43:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aeywoo> this is bad advice, you forgot the `!important`
[15:46:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to thewwrnerdguy> https://media1.tenor.com/m/50iFliWI2kcAAAAd/simpsons-hank-scorpio.gif
[15:50:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to prabhasxd> WAIT
[15:50:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] it works
[15:50:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476607361455095879/image.png?ex=69a1bd45&is=69a06bc5&hm=19431087817e78248577114abaaba2bf2f62084a917243d153949eb07a124c41&
[15:50:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> actually claire your fix didnt fix it i just used `#seo` lmaop
[16:41:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to prabhasxd> send the page
[16:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> id like to see how u did this
[16:45:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to kai84> https://itemasylum.miraheze.org/Template:Item_Infobox
[18:26:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> thats quite a long time
[18:27:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> whats it for
[18:27:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Did we lose role icons
[18:27:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Aw man
[18:27:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> :(
[18:29:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> hoooly 7h?
[18:29:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> 👀
[18:31:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1476646606915768382 sobbing
[18:31:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> I'm not surviving all that
[18:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to dgox2> Upgrades on our main (cloud) servers. Each one will take awhile as they are the bare metal servers and will take longer to reboot as well. Additionally we have to do two of the same type of upgrades due to not doing them for awhile. Hopefully it doesnt take the entire scheduled duration, but it likely will be close at least.
[18:31:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> alright
[18:32:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> We have 7 cloud servers now, one of which we do not fully use yet and will not be part of the maintenance but 6 servers in 7 hours is still somewhat tight. But we will do our best to get things back online as quickly as possible.
[18:58:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> [1/2] hey, just dropping in to ask a question - we recently moved our wiki's community to stoat and we're looking for a way to be able to keep up with announcements. is there some kind of feed we can hook into, or is this server really the only centralized and comprehensive place for announcements? i can only find bits and pieces scattered across various noticeboards on meta, and the 
[18:58:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> [2/2] bluesky account appears to be a month behind
[19:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to allium_house> You can create a private discord server with a single channel that subscribes to #announcements and #minor-announcements. Then use a bot to bridge this discord channel with stoat (e.g. [1](https://codeberg.org/jersey/lightning) and [2](https://github.com/mayudev/revcord)).
[19:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it would be interesting to see wiki-bot port to stoat and fluxer depending on what the dev is up for
[19:06:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> and probably matrix to boot
[19:06:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> Alternatively we can get these two channels bridged to IRC and then you can scrape IRC messages since they are publicly available.
[19:07:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> you might want to check in with the wiki-bot discord to see where they are at on any platform ports as a way to avoid the bridging business if they are up for it
[19:07:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> ha, i've also been in the wiki-bot discord asking about that today as well
[19:07:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> a real native port is the true solution but of course it requires people to maintain it and that would go from simply maintaining discord to at least 3 viable others all the sudden
[19:08:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but at least you know of the bridge as a workaround
[19:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> since we left discord in objection to all, the. yknow. gestures at the whole recent situation. i'd like not to have to depend on it at all
[19:08:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> an absolutely reasonable move
[19:09:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser, replying to allium_house> I heard they've delayed the move until later this year but best to find alternatives now then wait til later
[19:09:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> [1/3] i'm willing to get my hands dirty with, if not a direct port, something with equivalent functionality to wiki-bot
[19:09:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> [2/3] but we still need a place to grab the miraheze news from in any case
[19:09:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> [3/3] if replicating the announcements in the IRC wouldn't be a huge trouble i'm interested in that as a solution
[19:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> [1/2] I was messing around with a discord-zulip bridge earlier and bridged a wiki server's main channel to zulip (https://zulip.strinova.org/#narrow/channel/7-strinova-general/topic/discord/with/156). You might be interested in this as well. 
[19:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> [2/2] I messed around with log in with MediaWiki but couldn't get that to work yet. The OAuth extension is full of non-standard things that you need a custom backend for it.
[19:10:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser, replying to justanotherdarkmodeuser> Another good reason why I made this post #Will miraheze use other platforms other then Discord in the near future due to it's arising problems
[19:13:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We really should just get better at posting on Bluesky/Fedi/status page
[19:14:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that would be a good thing regardless
[19:23:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house> i'm very surprised to learn things aren't posted centrally on the site and proliferated out to the various socials/chat services
[19:25:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to allium_house> There is the occasional update on the tech noticeboard, but it’s been basically neglected as a formal announcement channel because of audience, end users just don’t really go to meta much unless they need something specific like to file a request
[19:26:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> It also doesn't make a lot of sense to post about outages or maintenances on meta if meta is or will be down
[19:26:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Would love to have a more active and diverse meta community with representation from hosted wikis but alas
[19:26:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to abaddriverlol> true
[19:27:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i love how wikipedia's mascot is just their icon with arms, legs, and facial features (eyes and a mouth
[19:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <allium_house, replying to abaddriverlol> ...fair point, lol
[19:29:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> For these kinds of status updates (basically tech), I would really like to see us make a system where we post in one location (discord announcement, on wiki, or even a special web app) and it gets sent out to #announcements, socials, on wiki, etc
[19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Oh and status page
[19:31:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Probably something I may push for in tech at some point
[19:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> :wikipetan:
[19:38:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee, replying to pixldev> I'd say it would make most sense if it was statuspage which proliferated out as a source of truth to all other platforms
[19:39:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> True, maybe, would need to think
[19:39:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ie do events have to be on going outages or can you post timestamped general announcements
[19:39:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1476646606915768382 this all probably wouldn’t be on there
[19:42:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Also would prefer something that gives a bit more control, ie if you just post something to the status page can you indicate importance or add any data that tells the part that sends to discord if it should ping?
[19:42:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Though Discord is probably better left manual
[19:55:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> that's their anime counterpart
[20:00:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee, replying to pixldev> Over at WO we use instatus and it pushes maintenance and incidents to discord, it supposedly can do X but it doesn't work for some reason
[20:01:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee> Having the statuspage as the source of truth in my mind is probably easiest as it probably has webhook support
[21:18:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to cosmicalpha> [1/2] Kind of surprising that we can't keep parts of the farm up as long as mhglobal is available. 
[21:18:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to cosmicalpha> [2/2] One day there will be enough replication and no downtime for upgrades I guess.
[21:19:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Hopefully not to much longer until we are in a position for that.
[21:21:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to zipppee> If we make something that’s pushing to bluesky and mastodon webhooks are hardly an issue
[21:31:09] <Skye>	 does the relay live
[21:31:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> it does yay
[22:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k> [1/2] I have an issue with one of the wiki settings, which is Max Animated Gif Area ($wgMaxAnimatedGifArea). I wanted to increase the limit so I can include some gifs without needing to make them worse quality, however no matter in what form I change the variable in that setting, it has no effect on the gifs and it doesn't matter if I edit the page after changing it or I bypass cache. Is 
[22:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k> [2/2] there any specific way to write variable in order to change it, or do I need take other actions to change gif area, such as Phorge request?
[22:16:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to ziomal_k> can you link one of those gifs?
[22:17:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <historicalbrazil> I was gonna lock in and try doing my Miraheze wiki but I decided to update my PC and all of the memory and storage and cache was wiped :EpicFaceMH:
[22:17:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k, replying to pskyechology> https://residencemassacre.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Intro2.gif
[22:17:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to ziomal_k> works for me
[22:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k, replying to pskyechology> Preview works, but on the page it is used in and file history it doesn't work
[22:19:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to historicalbrazil> Oh dear
[22:19:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <historicalbrazil> 🤷 happens
[22:20:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> :p
[22:23:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k, replying to ziomal_k> I decided to check wiki on another device and most of broken gifs infact work. It's weird why it doesn't works on my main device, but I will look deeper into this
[22:27:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> no you are right, mediawiki is silly with gif thumbnails
[22:37:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k> So do I need to accept gifs are sometimes wonky or there is a method to make them work for the most of the time?
[22:38:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [1/3] gives me this error but I know for a fact it's properly pointed
[22:38:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476709934115586068/image.png?ex=69a21ccc&is=69a0cb4c&hm=23a4269046f88262176e4cc289ba383219be292e3e3bccd8c23605c0fc9a6f24&
[22:38:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476709934707114115/image.png?ex=69a21ccc&is=69a0cb4c&hm=200c9248de15690b38185bab9cd710ac46988ff0d3dc700d929a82c795a734db&
[22:38:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cascalade> :biheze:
[22:38:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cascalade> who made my miraheze bi 💔
[22:38:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Two guesses, Skye and slash or Claire
[22:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to antoniokf5> cloudflare is a bit slow sometimes
[22:39:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [1/2] seems to be pointing towards it already
[22:39:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476710227448565972/image.png?ex=69a21d12&is=69a0cb92&hm=6d84bd6c7f9e2a84f667e05692cefb651528ed3c6a68008257bc59f8ae1fa541&
[22:39:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> so I'm a bit confused
[22:39:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> but sure
[22:39:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> I'll just wait
[22:39:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> yeah you got it
[22:39:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> the bot queries the status from cloudflare which is sometimes rather slow to update
[22:40:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to ziomal_k> i tried thumbnailing it separately and it fails due to being too big, I can't remember what our exact plans are but in the future the internal limit would be raised to allow for them to be thumbed
[22:41:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> things you can currently do about it: wait, or use videos
[22:41:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i think videos are much preferable anyway since who wants to load a 10 meg gif just to not even watch it
[22:42:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ziomal_k> Ok, thank you for help
[22:45:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> as the tyrannical beast in charge of making poor claire use her talents for no wage i will be claiming all the credit /j
[22:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to blankeclair> I hate this thing
[22:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We need to get the full version
[22:49:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> The brown throws it off
[22:50:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> :mirapride:
[22:50:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cascalade> idk white
[22:51:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> Is that apart of the Progressive Flag though? The brown, for POC LGBT?
[22:55:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> who's slash and why would they make miraheze bi along with Skye?
[22:56:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [1/2] uhhh
[22:56:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1476714498969567413/image.png?ex=69a2210c&is=69a0cf8c&hm=93e854117431135ba8147f5248df28893436ab008e9087f3c584941a7b5c438a&
[22:56:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> it's not working and it's been  40 minutes
[22:56:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5> is that normal
[23:01:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> what is the bot cooking
[23:03:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <platyellow, replying to pskyechology> Pancakes
[23:07:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pskyechology> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puAmWKLctrM
[23:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i think if it doesnt fix itself in another 30 we get to try the good old off and on again
[23:10:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoniokf5, replying to pskyechology> 👍
[23:41:31] <Guest60>	 hi guys who is hee from the skedaddle wiki