[00:03:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> -# I mean it's not too far off that he's a total clown
[00:09:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antheos.official> Hi ! I think my wiki (hollowknight.miraheze.org) has a server-side Varnish cache issue. My MediaWiki:Common.css was updated but the old cached version is still being served. Could someone please purge the Varnish/CDN cache for my wiki? Thank you!
[00:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to antheos.official> [1/2] hiya sowwy about that I made caching a bit too sticky, should be fine now and not stick so much
[00:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to antheos.official> [2/2] in case not, you are dealing with regular caching shenanigans that you can avoid by using `?debug=2` in the url you are viewing
[00:15:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antheos.official, replying to pskyechology> Thank you so much, it worked!! I’ll remember the ?debug=2, thank youuuu 🙌
[00:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/3] @pskyechology uhhh
[00:29:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/3] How do I fix it?
[00:29:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [3/3] Because utilizing the infobox templates isn’t my strongest point
[00:29:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> your desc template has a lot of empty lines at the end
[00:29:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Basically get rid of <p> and spaces?
[00:29:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pskyechology> desc?
[00:29:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Uhhh
[00:30:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> it's used at the end of some infoboxes
[00:30:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Oh
[00:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Got it
[00:30:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/2] Ohhh
[00:30:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/2] Documentation?
[00:30:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Or no?
[00:32:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pskyechology> [1/2] That?
[00:32:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pskyechology> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481812261721997392/B844F943-EBA1-4F55-AE99-B59EEB9ED809.jpg?ex=69b4acb5&is=69b35b35&hm=a8c7a66105c1ef73b1856e15f1c4b3db5fa22444de47a19a2badf56072a9bf07&
[00:34:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> go to template:desc
[00:37:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pskyechology> Yeah?
[00:40:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pskyechology> Also, huh?
[00:46:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> @pskyechology Also giving you editor permissions on the wiki since I’d say you know more about this stuff than I do
[00:48:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> im pretty sure she doesn't need it lol
[00:48:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to bartomelow> ?
[00:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to palezenith> skye has infinite permissions
[00:50:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to kai84> [1/2] Oh
[00:50:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to kai84> [2/2] Fair
[00:50:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> My bad then
[00:50:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kai84> #- Infinite POOOOWER
[00:50:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to pixldev> Is that a song?
[00:50:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to palezenith> No, Star Wars references
[00:50:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Oh
[00:50:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Wait
[00:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Sorry, I got it wrong
[00:50:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> It’s unlimited power I think
[00:51:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Intriguing
[00:51:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127
[00:51:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/2] Wait
[00:51:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/2] Infinite Power was a song made by the FatRats
[00:51:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Is it? I’m not familiar with that song
[00:51:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/2] Whatever, I’m getting sidetracked
[00:51:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/2] I need to focus on fixing my infoboxes ;-;
[00:51:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (I do follow the artist though)
[00:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> With days to go, we just hit 90% of our fundraiser goal! Thank you so much! https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Fundraiser
[01:00:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> what happened here https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Fundraiser/amount?diff=prev&oldid=524424
[01:01:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to thewwrnerdguy> some were stuck in clearing, it seems
[01:01:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> did we have bank transfers on in stripe cause that would do it
[01:01:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej, replying to thewwrnerdguy> a single $5,000 donation
[01:01:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> via bank transfer
[01:01:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> absolutely BALLER of a person
[01:02:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> i agree
[01:02:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> give them a kiss
[01:02:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> 💋
[01:06:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to wikitideharej> Reminds me of https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1468018494774837359
[01:06:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> if I remember that was an individual donor who happened to use that service for making charitable donations
[01:07:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> "wow my favourite wikifarm does this now? big cash coming yo way"
[01:35:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cascalade> CA's donation needs to be studied
[02:08:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cosmicalpha> should i edit on beta w/ nano or make a PR
[02:13:47] <CosmicAlpha>	 You can make a PR
[02:14:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to wikitideharej> This is correct, someone make a direct contribution though their retirement/investment account I think?
[02:15:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> mmmm, lets see where should this go
[02:17:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Style or other?
[02:17:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> eh other for now, change later
[02:18:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Oh, I just noticed a silly css thing with the fundraiser percent
[02:21:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> does anyone know why the interactive maps have been killing themselves
[02:21:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [1/2] like what
[02:21:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481839601252569148/image.png?ex=69b4c62c&is=69b374ac&hm=e570b0da3856c17f580875b5758495758bff28c8cad9d87a1c0b6430f00e791d&
[02:26:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased> [1/2] does anyone know if i can make these revisions link to people? I imported my wiki and we have accounts but they don't actually link to them
[02:26:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481840882604052653/Screenshot_20260312_222501.png?ex=69b4c75d&is=69b375dd&hm=3ce4f9333ed20f2ee7eb5e4e9964d44ea4afea77b075c6de824986a12f30f3b3&
[02:28:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to jased> Not something we can directly help with since it's off Miraheze, but the way we do it is a MediaWiki maintance script to reassign actors
[02:28:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> give me a sec, ill find the name
[02:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ReassignEdits.php
[02:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> [1/3] Just moved a wiki to it's own domain and I'm getting this error in search console, the wiki's gotten pretty consistently good SEO and I don't want any issues with such
[02:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> [2/3] Will this be an issue I'll have to look into, or do I just have to wait for cache to update?
[02:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481841771578130432/Screenshot_20260312_212702.png?ex=69b4c831&is=69b376b1&hm=075c7ae2ac28e731646f20ce6c751cf1c893aad3b546aead390f32b414446cb9&
[02:30:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> So, I think it'd be something like `php maintenance/run.php reassignEdits imported>Jasedxyz Jasedxyz`
[02:32:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to jased> If whoever your sysadmin is wants to give it a shot, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChangeAuthor exists but I have no idea if/how well it works :P
[02:32:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/2] cant be worse than this guy tho
[02:32:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481842373276340395/image.png?ex=69b4c8c1&is=69b37741&hm=cb8989d8badea45072164ecba10717aa49d84253c90c5fbf839b80d6571df113&
[02:32:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> [1/2] I sorta reskinned the donation thing on my wiki
[02:32:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481842477416714403/Screenshot_20260312_223237_Samsung_Internet.jpg?ex=69b4c8d9&is=69b37759&hm=eaadedf5639b8e7e1546a0f61829030b1d7d4f16d388b8069a1a090691ab35f6&
[02:33:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Wanted to use Team Fortress 2 colors
[02:33:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> I need to do that on my wiki. It's so out of place. 😭
[02:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to iputmypcinthefridge> Create a redirect request on [[Phorge]] (third step in  https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains)
[02:33:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge>
[02:33:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Also it looks terribad because I had to take the pic in the Samsung internet browser which is trash
[02:34:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> I dismissed it in Firefox and I can't get it back
[02:34:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge, replying to posix_memalign> Alright, dunno how I overlooked that at first
[02:34:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased, replying to pixldev> I think i'll just do the script because theres probably at most 30 users on the old wiki
[02:34:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> Thanks anyways
[02:35:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to jased> Probably safer
[02:38:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> I'm the only editor on my wiki. Is that a common thing?
[02:38:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> I was the only editor on a wiki for months, happens
[02:41:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Mostly my fault, I disabled registrations so I can work on my wiki as my own project without having to chase down vandals and other new editors who have no clue what they're doing and fix their stuff up
[02:41:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Plus I tend to abuse the hell out of templates (and expensive parser functions) to automate article creation
[02:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Disabling registration doesn't do much for vandals
[02:42:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> MH accounts are global
[02:42:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> I also restricted editing to just the Confirmed user group
[02:43:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Been doing wiki editing since Wikipedia came out in 2001 in my first year of high school, I've been doing wiki a looooong time
[02:44:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I didn't exist back then, kudos to you
[02:44:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge, replying to iputmypcinthefridge> Done, sorry about the hassle
[02:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> [1/2] Had crat on this wiki for around 2 years now (most of which were innactive tbh)
[02:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> [2/2] Only just now has someone shown significant interest, granted, they came from the older Fandom version of the wiki
[02:46:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> God to think that what I knew as Wikia is now Fandom, and they're still making the same mistakes they did 20 years ago is just nuts
[02:55:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge> Some just never learn
[03:03:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iputmypcinthefridge, replying to iputmypcinthefridge> Wait fuck I think I put on the wrong tags
[03:22:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased, replying to pixldev> [1/2] this script was being weird
[03:22:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased, replying to pixldev> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481854901406535710/Screenshot_20260312_232154.png?ex=69b4d46c&is=69b382ec&hm=a7b682dc2c3da450a968a462ad558c9e4272b2235985fc577cd5996529faf522&
[03:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased, replying to pixldev> but this extension seems to work fine
[03:51:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> how come i can't uncheck MobileFrontend on my extensions
[04:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> [1/4] >"[Script error: No such module "IPA".](https://thecrisiswars.miraheze.org/wiki/Iraqi_Republic#Notes)"
[04:05:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> [2/4] >Look inside
[04:05:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> [3/4] >"[Module:IPA](https://thecrisiswars.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:IPA)"
[04:05:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> [4/4] Many such cases
[06:04:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to 18.748.837.46> [1/2] if you'd purge the page you'd know that you're actually missing module:ipa/data
[06:04:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to 18.748.837.46> [2/2] good luck with wp templates
[06:47:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> Strange. Never had to do that before
[06:49:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> Didnt have to purge it, just took some time to load
[07:59:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46, replying to pskyechology> was a pain to find which module/template it was but once I found it literally all I had to do was put w: twice now its all nice blue links : )
[08:00:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <18.748.837.46> no pasting {{wp}} 3 batrillion times :EpicFaceMH:
[08:00:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wp?action=edit&redlink=1>
[10:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to jased> good to know
[10:32:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jased> but if you try and keep some users as imported> then it gets mad and says "no user found"
[10:56:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <g_utopia> [1/2] jojo gang how can I move this into the dropmenu
[10:56:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <g_utopia> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481969163567370271/image.png?ex=69b53ed6&is=69b3ed56&hm=07a665cf45d3fa2aeb61d54ec035b76a95acc98259034dc324a6f742d03d4def&
[11:01:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> nooooo you neeed to edit on vim !!!
[11:17:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> you can use private mode btw
[13:42:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> I have what's hopefully a simple question: I'd like to enable an extension that could be used to upload a large number of images at once, like SimpleBatchUpload. However, I'm worried about it being used for vandalism, like mass-rewriting files or mass-uploading junk. Is there a way to restrict something like that to certain user groups, at least to autocomfirmed users?
[13:46:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to rottenblock> IDK about SimpleBatchUpload, but there's probably some way to use abusefilter for that
[13:47:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> Hm, okay, I haven't made much use of it before, but I'll look into it.
[13:59:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to rottenblock> you can also strict rewriting files rights (`reupload`)
[14:02:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> and mass junk will be partly blocked by rate limit
[14:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> That's true too. I'll consider that!
[14:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] there is also an official way but not configurable in managewiki
[14:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482016419695824976/image.png?ex=69b56ad8&is=69b41958&hm=c6ae91c0ac06b025cd853dca855f96c09aeb449411f1cdbca8d9405c1d2d3af2&
[14:06:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> if you want to block it to certain user group i'd suggest js rather than af
[14:07:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> use js to replace the page with blank page for users w/o rights
[14:09:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> Thanks, that's the sort of thing I was hoping would exist, but I'm not sure I know how to do that. I might have to use one of the simpler methods.
[14:12:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> `if (mw.config.get('wgCanonicalSpecialPageName') == 'BatchUpload' && !mw.config.get('wgUserGroups').includes('sysop')) { /replace, or just redirect them to special:upload /}`
[14:14:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> Where would I put that?
[14:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> you would instantiate the comment and put it in common.js or a default|hidden gadget
[14:17:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rottenblock> Great, that makes sense, then. I'll give it a try!
[14:39:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lole5309> how often is the cargo cache refreshed?
[14:44:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theredhead43> Do wikis count for fair use? I wanna use an athletics logo but not sure if it’ll be fine. I believe it abides by fair use because it’s non profit and for education but idk
[14:52:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> js is not a good replacement for a proper solution like abusefilters, since js can be overturned with a `?safemode=1`
[14:53:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> true
[14:54:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> but what kind of abusefilters?
[14:54:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> deny upload comments rlike certain keywords?
[14:56:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> but not to mention allows custom comment, there also exist other js based tools that have batch upload function
[14:58:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i'm not really into af but i wonder how to distinguish batch upload from normal upload form or api upload
[15:00:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> hmm good question, I was kinda throwing it out there but I don't actually know the exact things you'd put there. I guess a classic skipcaptcha or edit count check could work to prevent new users from uploading but I don't know about if it's distinguishable from normal uploads (other than summary)
[15:03:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> btw i think the js solution is enough for the requirement above? if you assume abusers know safemode why not assume they have some wikicrackerPro™ that automatically upload multiple spams with api (there actually exist such wikicracker™ that post random spams on different wikis' user pages
[15:03:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to theredhead43> not necessarily, even if it's "non-profit and educational" you couldn't upload an entire movie for example. There are logos like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Discord_logo.svg which is allowed on wikipedia
[15:04:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> allowed on english wikipedia
[15:05:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> yeah true, if there's not a proper solution then it's fine to use a combination of js and abusefilter heuristics
[15:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> actually many abusers don't know a lot about mediawiki
[15:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> an lta on my wiki has consumed two accounts since we moved to mh. both blocked by af
[15:06:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> only until his third mh account was blocked by human
[15:07:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> always good to try and make sure you have stuff in place though. if an abuser _does_ know about MediaWiki, it should also be easy enough to get rid of all of their abuse
[15:09:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> tbh i'm really bored of him. why he's still not bored of abusing? he created 25+ fandom accounts and 3 miraheze accounts to abuse about the work which is our wiki's theme (we didn't track his new fandom account after we moved but there had been 25 by we moved)
[15:09:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to thewwrnerdguy> e.g. if you're logged into fandom you can see that the one time the bc wiki had an abuser who knew anything about mediawiki, it ended up being reverted in a grand total of 2 minutes: https://battle-cats.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kopcap94
[15:10:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> makes sense
[15:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> our lta is not that smart i slacked off a bit
[15:21:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] i even took eleven minutes to handle it recently when he finally realized how af worked 😭
[15:21:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482035796507885578/image.png?ex=69b57ce4&is=69b42b64&hm=8085bd2cc81a1ce0382c4e9723ea75c24951286797bed3f84429ae0b148e24a4&
[16:02:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Can't screenshot private tabs in Firefox, phone doesn't allow it. Could've done it on PC but I wasn't at my PC
[16:07:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> you can enable a setting on your firefox configurations to screenshot while using private mkte
[16:07:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Ah
[16:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> So I'm looking to set up a 3D model viewer for my wiki and it needs three.js for rendering. Is it possible for me to set that up?
[16:17:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> (I'm using ChatGPT to build the script for me because I'm lazy and this idea is too advanced for my hobbyist programming knowledge)
[16:18:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Oh wait I think I can just add the stuff to Common.js
[16:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> I could do what the official tf2 wiki does and do a kind of fake 3d where a script generates several angular shots of a model and pieces it together but I don't want to do that silliness
[16:20:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> There are wikis that use 3d files and there's a 3d extension but I'm not sure if that works
[16:22:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> ChatGPT just generated up a proper Half-Life Model Viewer-esque script for me that loads Source Engine MDLs and their VTFs. Can't test it at the moment, but the script looks pretty good at a glance
[17:28:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roobyroo> From my own experience, it's save to presume any vibe-coded script that isn't doing Python LeetCode projects should be presumed to not work until proven otherwise
[17:34:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theredhead43, replying to thewwrnerdguy> do u think a logo of a school tho is fine?
[17:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theredhead43> thankfully some logos i need are in commons but not all are
[18:02:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org, replying to roobyroo> I used GPT to make the two LUA modules on my wiki and they worked out just fine. The key is to have some amount of programming knowledge so you can glance over the output and ensure things are as they should be
[18:06:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> filepath is better (less expensive) than #ifexist if you're to know if a file exists
[18:15:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org, replying to honoka55> Ah well [this was my solution for putting a Gallery template on a page and then having it check for certain filename structures I've been uploading images under](https://tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:FindFile)
[18:18:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> It used to check everything all at once which resulted in 100/99 expensive parser function checks. Plus I was checking everything for JPG and PNG which doubled it. I set up some restrictions in the code to only check certain combinations based on a type parameter I set which reduced the overall expensive funcs
[18:19:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [1/3] hello, question here
[18:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [2/3] say we have a category A with 10 article pages to it
[18:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [3/3] is it possible (cargo extension added) to have a table that will be dynamically be updated everytime someone creates a new aarticle in that category? and also offer the possibility of filtering (eg only articles by X author) and sorting ( eg oldest to newest).
[18:38:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org, replying to honoka55> Where can I read more about this file path thing
[18:44:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> @pskyechology You were saying?
[18:54:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#mw.title.newBatch is better than that (if it's available on mh)
[19:11:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> [[mw:help:magic words]] iirc
[19:11:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/help:magic_words>
[19:12:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> this is still expensive
[19:13:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> `{{#if:{{filepath:a.jpg}}|y|n}}` is perfect non-expensive substitute to `{{#ifexist:file:a.jpg|y|n}}`
[19:14:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to honoka55> once for every 25 pages, although didn't realise filepath wasn't expensive at all
[19:15:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to thewwrnerdguy> it's useful for non-file pages
[19:35:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> I'm having a hard time finding my LocalSettings.php file
[19:37:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to ascendedone> what do you need it for
[19:38:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to pskyechology> I'm trying to setup gadgets so that I can setup infoboxes so I can link to infobox tabs
[19:40:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> gadget ext can be enabled in managewiki and gadgets can be created in mediawiki namespace
[19:44:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to honoka55> how would I do that?
[19:47:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> click the box □ before “Gadgets” in Special:ManageWiki/extensions so it becomes ︎︎︎︎︎☑︎, fill in some reason for the input below and then click “Save”
[19:52:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> thanks, found it
[19:54:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/3] @pskyechology 
[19:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/3] About the popup issue
[19:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [3/3] You said there was something in the desc template that hindered the extension
[20:25:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahappyoreo> What are the odds this is a real person, with hopes and dreams? Like you and me? https://wiki.avakot.org/User:Qq505597010
[20:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i only get nightmares /hj
[20:48:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> [1/2] https://forestrike.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
[20:48:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> [2/2] Is this a valid gadget?
[20:56:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> I'm assuming this is `wgPortableInfoboxUseHeadings` you're talking about
[20:57:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Huh?….
[20:57:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Sorry, I’m not that smart when it comes to this stuff?
[20:58:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> go to special:managewiki/settings, search that config value, then disable the config
[20:58:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Uhhh
[20:58:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] Alriht
[20:59:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Did it
[21:00:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> What next?
[21:01:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> it should hopefully start working, you may need to purge a few pages
[21:01:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Purge?
[21:01:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Haven’t done that before ;-;
[21:03:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> there should be a button in the page tools to purge the page. if you try that on a few pages then it should work?
[21:03:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> or if not could you link the wiki if it's not private
[21:03:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/2] Uhhhh
[21:03:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/2] Alright
[21:03:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Idk what purging does tho
[21:03:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Sounds scary ;-;
[21:03:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> just forces mediawiki to show you the latest version rather than an old version
[21:03:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Oh
[21:03:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] Thats it?
[21:03:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Alright
[21:04:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Same wiki as before
[21:04:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] suppression.miraheze.org/Main_Page
[21:05:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> [1/2] seems to be working fine after I purged the SCP Foundation page
[21:05:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482122575327920320/image.png?ex=69b5cdb6&is=69b47c36&hm=e29a518ef3596bd5868a0596d67c1e2676790495f70b82be487eeb316c10c218&
[21:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Huh
[21:06:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Strange…
[21:06:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Wait, let me try again
[21:06:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> you don't need to purge every page, but it'll take a few days for the changes to apply to every page on the wiki
[21:06:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Alright, got it
[21:07:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] that one
[21:07:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482122834930040957/image.png?ex=69b5cdf4&is=69b47c74&hm=a2d858de78b5019b22a904ea8b03d1535f0dc3b64fd591c11e594b03ccd804a8&
[21:07:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Thanks though
[21:07:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] It’s been a giant bug in my side for a while
[21:07:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> 👍🏾
[21:08:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Huh, wait, which page was this?
[21:09:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Oh SCPF
[21:09:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> Huh
[21:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [1/2] Doesn’t work for me
[21:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> [2/2] I’ll have to try again
[21:09:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to palezenith> https://suppression.miraheze.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation , the one with the infobox
[21:17:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Oh
[21:17:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] Wait, it works
[21:17:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <palezenith> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[21:20:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lomeno_24> @notaracham I am currently working on my existing wikis as requested, so the wiki request matter is closed. I’d appreciate it if we didn’t discuss this further. Thank you for the suggestion.
[21:23:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to ascendedone> The gadget is valid, but you don't put the gadget code itself on the Gadgets-definition page - the gadget code should live on a page that ends in .js
[21:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/2] the Gadgets-definition page holds all of your gadgets, and would look something like this
[21:24:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482127164840087613/image.png?ex=69b5d1fc&is=69b4807c&hm=56278969d7a6d4a5f565e9f184dac96a654de8cd49f19691a234f6de80795d6f&
[21:28:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> So i'd just add something like "InfoboxTabLinking.js" to the end of my wiki url to create an appropriate page for it?
[21:30:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> The proper url for your wiki would be <https://forestrike.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-InfoboxTabLinking.js> if you wanted to use that js page name
[21:36:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> @janebuzjane How would I confirm that the gadget has been properly installed?
[21:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/5] 1. Put it on the MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition page, you can use the syntax from the picture above below the header "Utility"
[21:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/5] 2. Enable it in your user preferences
[21:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [3/5] 3. Hard-refresh using ALT+F5 or CTRL+F5
[21:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [4/5] 4. Wait 5 minutes
[21:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [5/5] 5. Test it
[21:45:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> does it need to have the utility header?
[21:45:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to lomeno_24> probably not a good idea to ping someone with zero context about a request that's been declined
[21:46:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to ascendedone> It doesn't need it, that's more for sorting the gadgets on the user preference page
[21:46:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lomeno_24> @thewwrnerdguy thank you so much
[21:49:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> How do I test it? Just see if the infobox tabs adjust the page's url?
[21:52:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to ascendedone> You can verify your gadget definitions by going to the https://forestrike.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Gadgets page btw.
[21:52:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to posix_memalign> thanks
[21:54:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> now I just gotta figure out how to use it lol
[21:58:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to ascendedone> Yes - I just tested it for the Battlescars page and it works just fine 👍 <https://forestrike.miraheze.org/wiki/Battlescars#Battlescars+> opens by default on the second tab
[22:00:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> Didn't work for me
[22:01:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> try hard-refreshing your browser to update the cache and ensure it's enabled in your preferences
[22:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> I've deleted my browsing cache and hard refreshed my page using ctrl f5
[22:02:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> and its enabled as a gadget
[22:03:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> idk what to tell you, it works for me 🙁
[22:03:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> I can try in an incognito window maybe
[22:04:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> works in edge incognito, ye
[22:05:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> The browser I'm using is vivaldi if that matters
[22:07:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> ah, hard-refresh on vivaldi is alt+f5, not ctrl+f5
[22:07:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> vivaldi best browser 😤
[22:07:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> alt F5 wasn't doing anything when I was using it, ctrl F5 was the one that worked for me
[22:08:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> hm, maybe we have different mappings 🤔 Maybe try another browser? It works for me on Vivaldi and logged in, as well as Edge and logged out, so maybe it's something specific to your user
[22:09:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> Not working in edge for me either
[22:10:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> What's the behavior you're seeing? Here's what it looks like for me
[22:10:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1482138874766430418/link.gif?ex=69b5dce4&is=69b48b64&hm=d3c04b506b5b60f4feb2e9d49896262eb632702e04fc4271e80a4a99dec3d8e2&
[22:11:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> opens to the left tab, not the right tab like your gift is
[22:13:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> What software did you use for the gif
[22:14:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to pixldev> licecap 👀 <https://www.cockos.com/licecap/>
[22:15:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to ascendedone> it's gotta be something with either your user, the cache, or the browser. Does it persist in a different browser when you're logged in?
[22:17:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone, replying to janebuzjane> it persists in microsoft edge as I said earlier and I've deleted the cache multiple times now
[22:17:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ascendedone> Might be something with my user
[22:19:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> missed that msg, sorry
[22:19:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> i would try logged out and see
[22:25:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> @ascendedone I purged the Cloudflare cache on your wiki. Not sure if it's the culprit, but it might help.