[00:00:27] anyone know a format/template for tables? i wanna start writing an artist wiki [00:00:33] im bad at coding so... [00:00:40] rust mentioned! 🦀 [00:00:46] or are there any mediawiki docs for coding [00:00:50] luauauauuauauouau [00:01:04] C++ on top [00:01:08] i dont wanna leech off other pages' codes so there's that [00:01:50] What do you mean in respect of coding? Templates, Lua, wikitext? Or MediaWiki extensions? [00:02:18] uhh, lemme send a screenshot [00:03:11] nah, I know full well I would never have learned on my own the things I learned in uni. I generally bash my head against things until they work, which is good for some things and not good for others. [00:03:35] [1/2] this [00:03:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483254435437084832/Screenshot_2026-03-16-19-03-12-213_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg?ex=69b9ebd6&is=69b89a56&hm=4e67d1d4a1f9bbe53f2d89668940e10527b4a2fc59b07a1e87fea4dcbae3fb70& [00:03:43] i so gotta start doing logos for everything [00:04:02] but having to know a little about a lot, like I did uni, really helps my general understanding of computers and knowing what's out there if that makes sense [00:06:10] [1/2] things like this [00:06:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483255086200262686/Screenshot_2026-03-16-19-03-12-213_com.android.chrome-edit.jpg?ex=69b9ec72&is=69b89af2&hm=396f05bc0af7b51183d5c4c529a1c28d00f43482c31549f0ee5ad6a68c40227f& [00:06:18] ik now a thing or two abt media uploading and templates [00:07:43] is there any documentation on mediawiki coding? [00:08:08] The easiest way is to use something like the PortableInfobox extension which makes it pretty easy https://portability.fandom.com/wiki/Portable_Infoboxes [00:08:19] Alternatively you can learn wikitext or Lua to do it that way [00:08:34] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikitext [00:08:43] tyy ❤️ [00:08:49] i find it quite hilarious how the background color for the page still uses the wikia colors [00:09:03] i love you ayeshapedia [00:18:36] portable infoboxes look kinda neat, shame i'm not touching infoboxes with a 50 foot clown pole on my wiki [00:20:20] Hiiii my Fandom wiki just got deleted and so we might be migrating over here after all [00:20:33] Our wiki has been around since 2008, fun fact [00:21:00] owch [00:21:02] welcome aboard [00:21:18] good luck! [00:21:33] We almost moved in 2024 to TideWiki but then the merger happened and we never got around to it [00:21:44] So I think this might be the urging we need [00:21:50] what's your wiki abt btw? [00:22:36] A shared universe about writing stories making fun of bad fanfiction [00:22:45] The overall continuity has existed since 2002 [00:23:35] hmm [00:23:47] why was it deleted? [00:23:51] No clue! [00:23:57] weren't you given any reasons? [00:24:06] policy violations? explicit material? [00:24:11] They got after us like 2-3 years ago but we changed some pages and censored stuff and then we were fine [00:24:15] But today, poof [00:24:21] It's a pretty active wiki [00:24:22] for reference, ayesha erotica's fandom page was deleted because of its explicit nature [00:24:38] With I wanna say 2000ish pages? [00:24:43] Idk what that is [00:24:51] its just an example, she's a musical artist [00:24:53] We were given 0 notice [00:26:38] tbh i do see a plausible point for fandom, since yk, the whole thing goes around mocking bad fanfiction [00:26:48] which could go both around harrasment + copyright infricton [00:28:56] They seemed fine with it for 18 years. We even had one of the admins there talk about how much she liked us in like 2016 [00:29:10] And we definitely do not harass anyone [00:29:29] oh yeah ik, just listing reasons why newer admins might've just went poof with it [00:29:54] And, I mean, just about any wiki that isn't 100% your content is potentially copyright infringement in theory, if you're being crazy about it [02:07:06] Got a question, is there a way to hide a category? For example, I applied a category skin to my homepage, but I want to hide that it's part of that category. 🤔 [02:08:33] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories#Hidden_categories [02:08:33] [2/2] `HIDDENCAT` [02:09:28] [1/3] wtf [02:09:28] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483286114599964692/image.png?ex=69ba0957&is=69b8b7d7&hm=a8b6051b0a03d346b7860d2e7fa3c34c279026ab73e7682f8b760ee5a5206781& [02:09:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483286115279441920/image.png?ex=69ba0958&is=69b8b7d8&hm=45a203103c7443fe91dd94ce272fabc8ec79d57a1e7a2ee2c8a0cc4f2b521bd7& [02:11:49] nvm [02:12:47] [1/3] i know this is a really simple question but this has been bugging me for weeks, i cannot figure this out.... [02:12:47] [2/3] how do i change the header colours??? i feel like ive tried every element name by now. [02:12:47] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483286949602005107/image.png?ex=69ba0a1e&is=69b8b89e&hm=a88831684e2474f714f26e74459a0d7c2e3cb10c0f94b657df6e02cd7dcdca19& [02:13:20] [1/2] i may or may have not fucked up [02:13:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483287088744103946/image.png?ex=69ba0a40&is=69b8b8c0&hm=59f383b7e8dcc8772cd24636e755f54fd794a7037e38ccb0169d8a2c6cbb1e33& [02:16:17] [[special:CA/Ronanjeanpaul]] [02:16:18] [02:17:12] i have no clue what im doing on the stupid infobox omg 😭 [02:17:14] programming isnt for me [02:18:13] It was, I just didn't know why it wasn't working and it started working later. [02:18:21] [1/2] your parameters are as follows for album2: [02:18:21] [2/2] title, image, data1, data2, data3... data9 [02:18:47] figures [02:18:56] im just gonna go delete both and start from scratch [02:25:50] [1/4] question, would i need to keep the image1 and caption1 parameters? [02:25:50] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483290230961209384/image.png?ex=69ba0d2d&is=69b8bbad&hm=0ddb61f0e551f187c1fca455d47d1b3fc10c36c2f7a774149d05fc43c764b9d3& [02:25:50] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483290231343157308/image.png?ex=69ba0d2d&is=69b8bbad&hm=1bd2c514d8bea457bc765f73eb0286f415c9cfae9457fbd7aaa53f33d06085b1& [02:25:50] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483290231980429382/image.png?ex=69ba0d2d&is=69b8bbad&hm=a4c8dd78c0b517f071501ee41b5febeb643f47f02e51268336044ec946291978& [02:26:12] you can name them whatever you want as long as they dont conflict [02:26:32] tbh i dont understand them, doesnt my template have alr an image and header? what would they be there for [02:26:48] also, how do i make the navigation parameters work? [02:48:32] 🤔 I have renderblocking, but one category's CSS is superseding another? Not sure why that is cause the page it's overriding on isn't even in the same category. [02:58:57] [1/2] i wonder why the parameter "singles" won't show up here [02:58:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483298568725991586/image.png?ex=69ba14f1&is=69b8c371&hm=ca53af2ac0ef9e6b336fe25b5cde22ed0765dd02fd9058fa915733b580fe7f46& [02:59:52] Is it cause you have two of them? [03:00:00] oops [03:00:58] We all make mistakes. [03:02:40] [1/4] things are going a-ok, still dont understand how the ayeshapedia people did this tho [03:02:40] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483299503271575662/image.png?ex=69ba15cf&is=69b8c44f&hm=c2df8050ca71fb02352e94e486d9538607c2a599dc72e29d9b9eef5428711b81& [03:02:41] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483299503741341746/image.png?ex=69ba15d0&is=69b8c450&hm=9b94310de3076f23fd9e83ef16ddb74d00b73182276e138972fa5abaa2ef7acf& [03:02:41] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483299504303374478/image.png?ex=69ba15d0&is=69b8c450&hm=4871f8f76612b504ea0f5dd6e1d4d3e6e0a6df9288ffdf906fd197bab5ed6217& [03:04:26] ignore dates, i ripped that off ayeshapedia for the mean time [03:17:01] Guys why does it just not work when you upload a new version of an image [03:17:05] like it just doesn't update [03:17:11] it pmo so damn much [03:17:36] been several days too [03:17:41] and i even deleted the old version of the file [03:17:45] how is it even still displaying [03:21:41] [1/2] source image shouldnt take more than 20 min to show the latest version [03:21:41] [2/2] if its a thumbnail (e.g resized from the original) then you are unfortunately stuck waiting for a whole day [03:24:56] rip [03:24:58] thats silly [03:25:36] rather quite silly, i may say [03:30:26] [1/2] 😭 [03:30:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483306490650689697/image.png?ex=69ba1c51&is=69b8cad1&hm=7e8fc816baf0948a094ff534c2987025095d0efa96b2e37fb5e297c3047ce789& [03:34:22] did my dumbass really forget to put another /group [03:51:53] Methinks you did. [04:00:09] yeah figured 😭 [04:00:30] [1/2] just finished this, phew! [04:00:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483314056763932834/image.png?ex=69ba235d&is=69b8d1dd&hm=ea931f9c45a0e42a6c4560404613f7f3a714acfe26e489d1a3a78dcce083ef54& [04:00:33] now, its time to write [04:03:06] Rip. 😭 [04:10:56] i fixed it thankfully! [04:12:48] Yay! :D [04:15:01] im now currently working on his album pages [04:15:05] this is gonna take a whilee [04:16:32] I wish you the best of luck on it. [04:33:55] [1/2] read this part diva [04:33:55] [2/2] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Infoboxes#Horizontal_layout_for_groups [07:43:54] whilst I do have a miraheze wiki, I decided to create a new wiki by self-hosting mediawiki, and yeah it was definitely not an easy process, it was quite frustrating, but at least I know what the creators of miraheze, fandom, etc went through when they created their platforms. [08:39:43] add centralauth and managewiki and you will get closer [08:39:48] centralauth in particular, oh boi [08:40:26] fandom does different stuff but had its own chain for user accounts and wiki management stuff above and beyond the stock install [08:40:35] shared db would get you started but is only the beginning [09:05:45] Try 20,000 wikis and all the supporting services [09:06:08] It is far more complex [09:06:22] Shared DB is a different ball game [09:21:10] I will do those later. first I'll just set up the basics of the wiki. [09:27:34] If it's a single wiki you manage then please don't [09:27:37] Save your sanity [09:31:20] the only value to any of that is a can I do it thought experiment, as rhinos said, inappropriate for a single wiki operation [09:48:17] unsure whether I will include more than one wiki, but I'll see. [10:49:27] Thank you, i’ll check it out! [11:37:56] [1/2] is anyone else having this issue? i've been waiting for like an hour [11:37:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483429176873848924/image.png?ex=69ba8e94&is=69b93d14&hm=c5bba83fbaefa6d290d781a32534da414b1b97bdc9412f16ee74f9e6ddb21b17& [11:38:00] but it refuses to load [11:44:50] where is this [11:45:10] the portable infobox builder extension [11:45:19] if you mean tha path, it's ``Special:InfoboxBuilder`` [11:45:34] third time's the charm [11:45:37] a link to your wiki please [11:45:47] https://restitched.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [11:48:12] [1/3] can't replicate [11:48:12] [2/3] does it work if you force refresh? ctrl+shift+r [11:48:12] [3/3] if not, open devtools' (inspect element) network tab and see if it errors on another refresh [11:48:39] that worked! [11:48:42] yay [11:48:51] what's the difference between a force refresh and a regular refresh? [11:49:15] cache eating refresh vs not cache eating refresh [11:49:31] i see i see [11:49:36] cheers! [c_lightred](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1130334246582624446.webp?size=48&name=c_lightred&lossless=true) [11:49:44] ofc ^^ [12:56:00] [1/2] how do i fix this idk coding that well 😭 [12:56:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483448813896073336/image.png?ex=69baa0de&is=69b94f5e&hm=246ce81b266607e1b36972ccef7d2ace38f06db0dd878dbe6c3327ef667ca843& [12:58:05] you wrote `bacckground-color` twice [12:58:30] what do i write instead 😭 i tried writing at either of those it still didn't work [12:59:00] [1/6] just write [12:59:01] [2/6] ```css [12:59:01] [3/6] body { [12:59:01] [4/6] background-color: #0e0454; [12:59:02] [5/6] } [12:59:02] [6/6] ``` [12:59:07] ooh okok thank youu [14:11:22] I also set up custom mediawiki through infinityfree since my budget is 0 euros, but with filezilla and some additional coding, I got it to work. [14:22:04] though I doubt I can install managewiki to it. [14:52:21] [1/2] It do be Patty's Day today, luckily my pfp is wearing green so I'm a-ok. Whew [14:52:22] [2/2] -# And I totally didn't forget that Patrick's Day was a thing. [14:53:45] Lowkey I forgot about it too lol [15:00:20] 97% of progress on fundraiser woot woot [15:09:03] ok... [15:09:12] woot woot? [16:04:19] you won't be able to setup your own wikifarm on shared hosting [16:04:54] you need to be able to create new databases which isn't usually possible on shared hosting [16:06:05] I don't really understand shareddb ngl — I don't see the point in just stopping username conflicts without central login lol [16:07:06] then I'll probably just go with a single wiki, though I would like some extensions that allow me to customise the wiki faster and easier than having to mess with localsettings every time. [16:07:25] I think there are some that exist I'm just not sure about the security of them nor the actual efficacy of them [16:07:39] although managewiki no longer depends on createwiki [16:07:40] so theoretically it's doable [16:07:49] just not sure it's been done before [16:07:52] I think shared DBs provide some sort of central login since the password column is shared as well [16:08:02] Not sure about the cookies though [16:08:50] hello eeveryone [16:08:55] yeah I value central login really highly [16:09:04] it's convenient for when I visit new wikis and it auto attaches my account [16:10:17] it's also helpful on fixing private wiki issues because it'll auto attach so I have read globally [16:33:42] Hi. I am working on a fantasy D&D worldbuilding wiki and I am trying to get the Template:Infobox Character/RaceCategorization in my wiki to work like it does in Encyclopedia Exandria. For some reason, every character gets sorted into every race's category page. I am not as technical. Can someone help me fix this? [17:01:58] helooo [17:02:19] Hewwo [17:05:17] nice day [17:16:05] howdy [17:16:39] hey wwr [17:16:52] whatcha up to [17:18:54] currently I'm procrastinating on things I should be doing instead of being productive [17:19:06] I still need to fix wwrtest3wikibeta [17:20:21] mirabetaing [17:44:53] Hmm, my common.css changes haven't gone through yet, been probably over 12 hours [17:45:05] Debug=2 still shows the changes tho [17:45:16] means the cache is just being a dick [17:45:41] [1/2] me with the cache: [17:45:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483521719606972436/image0.gif?ex=69bae4c4&is=69b99344&hm=a2248978d6da08d8e54bd5361ede814ceafeebd5af4f44bbdc6203cc63654c07& [17:46:49] cache is being a cache [17:47:15] It's being a c word for sure [17:47:57] what is a c word [17:48:06] character? [17:49:34] no? [17:49:37] uhhh [17:51:35] Crappy thing? [17:52:34] woah woah owah [18:02:24] Can we swear in here? [18:03:02] Ah the word(s) I'm thinking of would likely be covered as NSFW so I won't say them :steveo_kek2: [18:06:27] contact someone from the technology team [18:07:36] I'd be out of the job if swearing was banned. Besides I heard "ofc" being said numerous times soo... I guess "fucking" in terms of casual swearing than euphemisms is fine, bweep. [18:10:17] Expletives for emphasis and frustration are fine, slurs and other terms are meant to be offensive to specific groups are not. NSFW, depends on what you mesn [18:10:29] PG-13 but we get more than one f drop is a good baseline [18:14:09] poop 😱 [18:17:10] WoAh! Woah! WoaH! Not cool! [18:18:11] so sorry 😨 [18:28:48] How long do steward requests typically take to be responded to? I've had one open for almost a week and I'm just wondering how much longer I'll probably have to wait, trying my best to be patient tho [18:30:06] What sort of request [18:30:14] Permissions [18:32:29] It shouldn't be much longer [18:32:40] huh [18:33:04] Crystalite13: no need to huh when you just join [18:33:12] Someone asked a question and it got a reply [18:33:12] I suppose [18:33:17] I see [18:33:18] sorry [18:33:25] Those take longer because I’m the one taking a good deal of the routine requests and can’t action permissions [18:33:38] Hey @pixldev [18:33:38] And they’re also not demanding of attention like reports are [18:33:44] Hi Rhino [18:33:58] I read the logs I understand context now [18:34:01] hi pix [18:34:23] My pie smells good already [18:34:38] oooooohh [18:34:39] pie [18:34:39] Mmmmmmmmm [18:34:41] what kinda [18:34:52] personally I LOVE apple pie [18:35:10] though one time a family friend brought pie but it had nuts so I had an allergic reaction [18:35:22] Chicken and bacon [18:35:24] its weird because I'm only allergic to *some* nuts but not others [18:35:28] ooooooooooh [18:35:32] bacon [18:35:48] Fresh from the butcher today too [18:35:55] ooooooooohhhh butcher [18:37:03] Okie got it, thank you [18:37:20] yay [18:38:34] Makes sense, sorry for showing my impatience a little, I'm just excited is all [18:58:54] [1/3] I think im doing smth wrong with portable infoboxes. the second pic is the code after I made my infobox and I put the template into the gymnast page and it just has the header and subheader and isn't editable at all for me. not sure what to do [18:58:54] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483540147512410184/86277430a55ea5d631680eff25dbcc87.png?ex=69baf5ee&is=69b9a46e&hm=d58c621c3b2cef28ca70d8b5d71091790d262ec716ac7c41f72756754daf2a8f& [18:58:55] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483540148225445939/7d80db7612b5ede10708f6f19cc699e1.png?ex=69baf5ee&is=69b9a46e&hm=bb1eb28af782c3116c65a039c08a74dbc40db60b32739e682cfe72a32e4c04b7& [18:59:22] [1/2] it says no documented parameters which just confuses me [18:59:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483540266848878612/9a1d929e81d4f1517582ffa6806d4d70.png?ex=69baf60a&is=69b9a48a&hm=e9c4f1f7084305f06600270784c9ee5a3ef1a868cd7c659cf7fbc819393f3382& [19:00:44] i used the portable infobox maker to make the infobox btw [19:00:46] You need to include the `` [19:01:21] You can also install TemplateStyles that would make the template data metadata for you via a GUI [19:02:20] how do I do that? also i do have templatestyles installed [19:02:29] I'm not sure TemplateStyles does that, iirc TemplateData provides it's own GUI for that. TemplateStyles is an entirely different beast [19:02:31] Auto correct [19:02:41] There should be a button on the template page to edit the data via GUI [19:02:50] oh templatedata [19:02:54] just installed that [19:03:44] Was using TemplateStyles for a different thing and my thingie magig thought I "mispelt" it [19:04:01] i dont see this [19:04:46] nothing rly changed since i installed templatedata unless i just dont know where to look [19:05:09] [1/2] Assuming you do have the TemplateData installed, this button should be at the top of your Source Editor [19:05:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483541719747137751/image.png?ex=69baf764&is=69b9a5e4&hm=e281fc9a36606745c3d7f61924ecf46f5b046ab991d67bbea92fc772df0e3329& [19:05:47] [1/2] nope :/ [19:05:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483541879847911486/b9eb1f5075bb8b2f05903c960d3b776e.png?ex=69baf78b&is=69b9a60b&hm=da8c16600d148071b6ace80d820628dc7aae061e8ab7be9babfd97a89a3dae26& [19:05:56] is it maybe because i made it before i just got templatedata [19:06:40] isnt showing up for other templates i made either [19:06:54] No, it should affect all Templates pre- and post. [19:07:15] oh then something is wrong [19:07:32] does it take a while to work? should i wait a bit [19:07:48] Check your extensions, and if you just installed it, it would take several minutes to affect all pages. [19:08:12] open your browser console, if it says something like "skipped unavailable module mw.ext.templatedata" then wait a few minutes [19:08:29] dumb question how do i do that [19:08:33] open the browser console that i [19:09:17] Right-click and click the Inspect Element button (or Inspector or whichever that looks akin to something "Elements") [19:09:27] ohh inspect element [19:10:01] depends on browser, on firefox it's ctrl+shift+k. I think on both Firefox and Chrome you can press f12 to open up devtools, then from devtools go to the console tab [19:10:12] [1/2] yep guess ill just wait a bit and come back in a few minutes to it hopefully working [19:10:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483542990671712459/b91a8e8880538213f1bcf3b880c9014d.png?ex=69baf893&is=69b9a713&hm=d350ae39f64bb11ff2a1e498c1cbbc6e1aec84e655557b73fa6bec3a946e00ef& [19:10:14] or yeah inspect element also opens up devtools [19:11:16] oh it just started working!! [19:11:19] Strangely for me, it took less than a few minutes for it to refresh completely. [19:11:42] I'm saying cause I've been hearing that people's CSS and caching are getting issues [19:11:47] [1/2] dang i cant do anything cause what is this 😭 [19:11:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483543392008016065/462d5ed5d5af1b105d0577bc36342cc2.png?ex=69baf8f3&is=69b9a773&hm=362b30aba938d1a69ed24a46efaf864ca78cc322a57c1eb57b36f2981b8b3884& [19:12:01] Click add parameter [19:12:08] bet [19:12:42] oh is the parameter like my lines [19:12:47] like if i do birth year is that a parameter [19:12:52] Yes. [19:13:06] ohhh gotcha thank you! [19:13:28] i guess im wondering then why does it need to be made in the portable infobox maker if i have to do a parameter now [19:13:59] feels like im just redoing it [19:15:11] I mean while in your Infobox you can do something like `{{{birthyear}}}` and TemplateData can read that to autofill some "suggested parameters" [19:16:25] [1/2] Something like this (but in this instance it's a WIP navbox I'm making) [19:16:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483544557084741632/image.png?ex=69bafa09&is=69b9a889&hm=8ca837df59476cdfb783936906fd1716c63986d6b2c8618cdb3f20ad0165ca80& [19:20:33] [1/3] hmm i added the school parameter but it doesnt show up in the infobox [19:20:34] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483545597976907847/22cc263d09dc6ffe05860c424a5aebe5.png?ex=69bafb01&is=69b9a981&hm=348fbbee8ecde105915346519b0f68989e70daacd970cd27283d1d77f3ce2cd8& [19:20:34] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483545598303932426/f47bb7e98277ca76e902de5c360a382e.png?ex=69bafb01&is=69b9a981&hm=0d2a2929150d292b99f720bef97b00261e04b317f3d8fdd51095e85d1cdd3711& [19:25:07] What does the source code look like? [19:27:25] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483547325849931876/8d6f4a6b5680ad10f980a9b67ef7e751.png?ex=69bafc9d&is=69b9ab1d&hm=e14efed121ced760ecded5f30785595afa2ea028fba3d2dd5bf6d8ab474aa15e& [19:27:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483547326281682974/20d593ee9b8cda528b7d23b30d91030c.png?ex=69bafc9d&is=69b9ab1d&hm=2b9a38063777093607beffbcb43fb00d7e2449097b9d2e5d79d961f17526a7a0& [19:28:32] Because the Infobox and TemplateData have to match the `` of where it's being pointed to [19:29:51] data [19:29:56] For instance on TemplateData it's listed as "Full Name" while on Infobox it's "fullname" [19:31:18] You can add an alias that would make it more clean for yourself, but it has to match exactly. [19:32:28] oh yay i got it to work! [19:32:40] [1/2] woooo [19:32:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483548646803898529/581563f15d2944a6de825168176f30c0.png?ex=69bafdd8&is=69b9ac58&hm=ef927020dac9e4c58455d26e6dd8da717acb978f7c496ad7a958cb3c098a7d4f& [19:32:43] thank you 🙂 [19:32:52] portable infobox gets less annoying as you get more accustomed to it lol [19:32:53] this is challenging stuff haha but ive become smarter today [19:33:23] its a good thing im working on these infoboxes, navboxes and templates now before doing many page creations [19:33:36] will make everything so much easier down the road to get the hardest parts done [19:33:40] i made templates as i needed them 🤷 to each their own [19:33:58] i highly recommend putting all of your templates inside a category so you can keep easy track of them .. thats what i do lol [19:34:33] I've only gotten a select few templates, just one infobox and one navbox [19:34:50] And that's pretty much all I need. [19:35:00] oh god [19:35:04] i forgot navboxes exist [19:35:18] adding that to my todo [19:35:25] see id do that but im very not a coder and want to get things out of the way. im gonna be using all the templates so often i just wanna get them out of the way [19:35:30] my wiki needs a LOT of navboxes [19:35:40] why would you need different navboxes? [19:35:44] genuinely asking [19:36:11] navboxes for national champions in all-around and every gymnastics event, same for conference championships, major end of year awards, etc [19:36:20] hm [19:36:51] i don't know how many navboxes my wiki would need [19:37:23] -# And the most ambitious for me is to get all of my wiki co-creator's characters in one box. [19:38:01] i mean if you wanna take a peep and offer some suggestions .. cuz im realizing yeah i forgot about navboxes entirely [19:38:07] well if you want a basic one like this, feel free to copy and paste the code 🙂 https://collegegymnastics.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:AAIAwardWinners [19:38:41] my wiki is for my own worldbuilding and whatnot so its like [19:38:43] how would i even.. [19:39:09] however you want i suppose! [19:39:16] thats the issue [19:39:20] good thing we can check out code on other wikis templates [19:39:24] the autism displays 83474837 different ways to organize them [19:39:28] and i cant decide on one [19:39:49] and now im wondering if i'm shoving too many things into one page [19:40:06] like should a religion page even show every god or should each god have their own page [19:40:11] and its like.... :pensivesob: [19:40:55] the reason im doing templating and navboxes earlier is because i tried to do this wiki on fandom and got so ahead of myself i got overwhelmed and quit [19:41:06] this was years ago now [19:41:22] i wish someone would do a deep dive into my wiki and tell me how to organize it all LMFAO like [19:41:29] yeah i think im halfway to the point of being overwhelmed [19:41:44] and its like [19:41:51] how do you decide what does and doesnt get its own page [19:43:55] <18.748.837.46> whats yo'ure wiki [19:44:23] [here]() [19:45:44] [1/2] if you have pages for these for example u can make a navbox for them [19:45:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483551934593110248/2efc4ff871173986e4056831ead14035.png?ex=69bb00e8&is=69b9af68&hm=7e99d34a39eda867c31e3b31c556cce893b3d8b79a97eced7fca9fc857b5da06& [19:45:54] i don't know if they need entire pages [19:45:55] like one called elemental magic types [19:45:56] <18.748.837.46, replying to nyxxed> oh damn this is peak [19:46:08] well its just an example. if it doesnt need a whole page u dont need it [19:46:14] thats my thing its like [19:46:20] idk how to decide on pages [19:46:21] 😭 [19:46:34] thank u this is mine and my gf's 3 yr old brainchild [19:46:57] probably if it has content longer than a couple paragraphs worth [19:47:03] hmm [19:47:14] well then the biology page should be like 5 different pages [19:47:25] I mean it's all your choice what content you put on your wiki and how long you make your pages [19:47:40] oh yeah 100% i just struggle with deciding things like that [19:47:58] [1/2] also i see this is all crafters. crafters can be a navbox worthy thing too [19:47:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483552497414049812/731f0dd369df16a466795ced57306ba2.png?ex=69bb016e&is=69b9afee&hm=9547f0d030fb72132a6d0b8df5a68b13b77f239e7f0d4885d9bf8f6168523b74& [19:48:08] at the bottom of each of these pages [19:48:19] they're sorted into categories already [19:48:20] but hmm [19:48:23] that's a good point [19:48:36] [19:48:38] lots of things on wikipedia have navboxes for things also in categories too [19:48:48] hmm [19:49:05] also like you said its ur own wiki. u can do whatever you want with it! [19:49:14] worst case theres now two ways to navigate :3 [19:49:18] ya ! i just like having opinions cuz im at the point where im not sure which direction to go [19:49:35] I wonder if there should be a navbox for characters sorted by magic type? maybe? [19:49:35] i love having multiple methods to quickly navigate [19:50:05] yeah you can do navbox with subgroup. you can have one for a specific type of character like crafters and if there are multiple types of crafters, you can make subgroups for each type! [19:50:05] but there's 200+ characters so would it only be the relevant magic type or would it be like a whole. all magics navbox [19:50:20] <18.748.837.46, replying to nyxxed> basically if all of its information takes up like 2 paragraphs max and is part of a larger topic then it probably shouldnt have its own page [19:50:25] and if there are spells you can make a page for each spell for example and a navbox for that [19:50:32] hm [19:50:37] spells aren't a thing but [19:50:49] that was a bad example but more like if theres smth in that realm [19:50:53] im trying to think of how i would lay it out [19:51:17] like if it was a crafter would they be part of a crafter navbox linking to every other crafter or would it be a section of one larger navbox? [19:52:05] for me if i was making it id do a navbox called Crafters or something like that, and then have them grouped up by type. navboxes with subgroup in dev wiki shows examples [19:52:12] hm [19:52:39] so i could do like. elemental magic and have each elemental type as it's own group [19:52:39] ? [19:53:16] im [19:53:20] ive lost myself [19:53:36] doing this entire wiki alone was a mistake [19:57:06] How about you just start doing pages for whatever you’re interested in doing and work from there [19:57:12] hm [19:57:12] If u don’t know rn it’s not worth stressing over [19:57:32] i think honestly i should maybe plan out a brief tree for what should go where... [19:58:45] Yeah it’s worth it to plan out what you wanna do and all ur ideas and then once u can visualize it you get a better idea of what might need organization/navigation [19:58:49] <18.748.837.46> [1/3] https://acosaa.miraheze.org/wiki/Woven_Pantheon [19:58:49] <18.748.837.46> [2/3] Another example is if all the lore about the Weavers is on this page, then they probably shouldnt get its own page [19:58:49] <18.748.837.46> [3/3] But if you can in the future go more into depth about history, beliefs, practices, holidays, etc then it should defo get its own page [19:59:04] yeah that's not all gonna stay one page [19:59:24] <18.748.837.46> basically if it can fill its own page (and isnt insignificant) it should be a page [19:59:50] For me personally I rush for navbavoxes in my wiki only because I already had a picture of what I needed. Once you visualize what you are putting in ur wiki what you need for navigation and templates starts to present itself [20:00:01] you're right [20:00:10] i think part of the issue is i'm going from an organized google doc to a wiki [20:00:45] i should just sort out how things connect first and foremost.. [20:01:08] Do you have lots of pages already? [20:01:11] uhm [20:01:31] yeah but like 85% of them are character pages [20:02:45] If ur characters have certain traits in common that you think might make sense to link together in a navbox it’s worth it. You can also decide if there’s a bunch that are specifically villains you can make one for them or just leave it as a category [20:02:51] hmm [20:02:55] As an example [20:03:02] well i'm sorting them by affiliation. that should be a navbox thing too right? [20:03:09] Let's say like [20:03:33] hm [20:03:39] As someone who likes using navboxes to move around in wikis I would like it yes [20:03:43] can multiple navboxes be on a page? [20:03:47] Yes ofc [20:04:08] one navbox for each other character in said affiliation and then one navbox for EVERY affiliation? [20:04:24] each affiliation has its own category so I can just link to the category in the big navbox [20:05:08] I guess if you have characters of one group and then they have affiliations within that group it’s good to be just one navbox [20:05:54] I have a head coaches navbox in process. They are all head coaches and then they are divided into subgroups. So divisions (ncaa has division 1 2 and 3) and then I sort within those divisions by conferences [20:06:04] hm [20:06:19] maybe when i get to defining things a little i should hit u up and ask what navboxes i should implement 😭😭 [20:07:44] yeah just keep doing ur thing and dont worry about navboxes for now because if they were a must add this second kinda thing you would 100% know [20:07:52] you can always add them later [20:07:53] i mean its like [20:08:07] a little annoying finding things but i also how to nav the wiki i made [20:08:45] if ur moving around pages often and find it annoying to find things think about what pages ur moving from and to and thatll help picture it [20:08:56] anyone know how to make an automatic page list like the one they have in google sites for example? this wiki stuff really has levels to it [20:08:57] oh thats actually really smart yeah [20:09:07] wdym by automatic page list [20:09:11] like. a list of your pages? [20:09:20] Lol yea like a page navigation thing [20:09:36] well. you have /Special:AllPages [20:10:59] Yeah but I want to organize it, Is there a plugin or something for that? [20:11:41] im not sure. i think your best bet is to look around your special pages stuff and see if there's anything that suits what you need [20:12:10] theres just soo many lol, but thx for ur help ill check them out [20:13:07] No need to alarm you guys, but there's a skeleton inside your body. [20:13:30] no need to alarm you but you're now aware of your blinking, breathing, and how your tongue sits in your mouth [20:13:46] great, you've cast a spell on me [20:13:51] LOL [20:15:13] No need to alarm you, but you're always looking at your nose [20:15:45] well yeah but my brain still blocks out my nose so [20:18:38] [1/2] this feels like such a mess.... [20:18:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483560210667798709/image.png?ex=69bb089d&is=69b9b71d&hm=73b17352be2e31bc482810e6faf5c78f5f6a99e83782ea3ad5d544adbfac6aa6& [20:19:24] does anyone know how the heck an image can appear on the url of a page??? [20:19:40] do. you have an example [20:19:45] yes [20:20:18] https://buk.miraheze.org/wiki/Donovan_Moore [20:20:24] ohhhh [20:20:25] um [20:20:27] omg [20:21:56] any idea? 😭 [20:22:09] `{{#seo: |image= |description=}}` [20:22:18] THANK YOU! [20:22:28] thank you sorry i. forgot [20:22:40] np [20:24:07] I too was also wondering that as well because I like how it embeds on Discord. Figured it out literally last night. [20:24:39] ahh [20:24:49] is there any channel where i can find pre-made template code 😭 [20:25:07] probs best to just scroll through wikis and look at their templates [20:25:12] <18.748.837.46, replying to dominiqueriqo> Wikipedia or Miraheze Meta [20:25:16] Miraheze [20:25:29] Red i'm looking at all of this and am realizing i need navboxes but i dont even know where to start [20:25:31] <18.748.837.46, replying to dominiqueriqo> No I mean those 2 have templates [20:25:44] OH [20:25:44] okay [20:25:45] ;(] [20:25:53] I've been searching everywhere is there like a link [20:26:10] [1/3] ok 2 more questions from me. number one, where would i put code to say change fontsize and things like that for the navbox? also, how do I do the thing in wikis where putting a birthdate automatically says how many yrs old they are [20:26:11] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483562108523249888/f23d839833d7f7448c1b19b134b63063.png?ex=69bb0a61&is=69b9b8e1&hm=5816f11fb662ef0e13297bb01725f3bbdfabe0d3efcc783f39b6a6c84cb156a7& [20:26:11] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483562109827678268/d94c43dfbc72e6f147f272c62426d7a7.png?ex=69bb0a62&is=69b9b8e2&hm=4552cba00ba8bc610da4071707bd649f55be65eb5edc7cd74453bcc01a5b09e6& [20:26:13] is it a template? [20:26:24] There's no shame in taking inspiration from other people's templates. [20:26:28] <18.748.837.46, replying to dominiqueriqo> [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_person&action=edit [20:26:28] <18.748.837.46, replying to dominiqueriqo> [2/2] Just look for a template and hit "view source" [20:26:34] font size can be a simple css fix [20:26:40] <18.748.837.46> copy and paste [20:27:08] <18.748.837.46> heads up: templates 90% of the time rely on a BUNCH of modules and other templates [20:27:26] thats y i like miraheze dev cuz it often lists the needed modules [20:27:31] where in the code should I put it? [20:27:42] Timeless.css or Common.css [20:27:46] <18.748.837.46> [1/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Developers_Wiki [20:27:46] <18.748.837.46> [2/2] theres also this one from miraheze itself [20:27:55] huh? [20:28:00] i dont see that in my screenshot [20:28:08] no they're seperate pages [20:28:21] actually idk if you're using timeless [20:28:32] inline html doesn't work with infoboxes in my experience [20:28:33] Tysm [20:28:40] so you have to change things on the infobox using css [20:28:46] <18.748.837.46, replying to dominiqueriqo> np [20:28:54] idk where to access that tbh [20:29:12] /MediaWiki:Common.css or /MediaWiki:(your wiki's skin name).css [20:29:25] For automatic ages I did `{{#expr:{{#time:Y}}-BIRTHYEAR-(({{#time:n}} do I have to do anything other than just copy and paste this code wherever it needs to go? [20:31:09] Simple copy paste, just replace the BIRTHYEAR/MONTH/DATE with the year, month, and day of when they were born [20:33:20] [1/3] so [20:33:20] [2/3] {{#expr:{{#time:Y}}-1986-(({{#time:n}} [3/3] ? [20:34:16] [1/2] Does anyone know what i can do abt this [20:34:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483564147005329568/image.png?ex=69bb0c47&is=69b9bac7&hm=cc5eafc83a48bdeb9ebe2a49c63bfb3f7dfa6b0b77a19d3853f1acf99cd6c457& [20:34:28] They're all numbers. Year = 1986, Month = 6, Date = 27. [20:34:41] module documentation you can get in dev wiki [20:35:18] [1/2] ohhh so {{#expr:{{#time:Y}}-1986-(({{#time:n}}<7) or ({{#time:n}}=7and {{#time:j}}<27))}} [20:35:19] [2/2] ? [20:35:50] Ohhh? Very new to this so could u by any chance redirect me to the page [20:35:56] Yeah, as long as you add a space between 7 and "and" [20:37:49] i think its just if u go to dev wiki and search module documentation its there and then theres a button that lets you automatically add it to your wiki [20:37:56] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Documentation [20:38:22] you click open in prefill import parameters and before u click import check off Include all templates and transcluded pages [20:38:34] i had to reimport some templates because i didnt do this earlier [20:38:44] oh so i got it perfect? awesome!! [20:39:00] Yo, sorry for interrupting the conversation here but just to remind y'all I didn't leave Miraheze I'm still planning to come back (IF the topic I want to make a request on does have its Kickstarter successful) [20:39:24] Right now 37% of it has been funded [20:39:36] Ok TYSMM [20:39:45] ohh i see what u mean ur code only ends up showing the year of how old they are. where in the code would i edit to change what text shows up [20:39:51] does anyone wanna offer up their wiki so i can peruse infoboxes [20:40:00] It sounds like you might be talking about [[mwe:DynamicPageList4]]? [20:40:00] [20:40:09] nope that link doesn't work [20:41:55] If you mean their birthday (MM/DD/YYYY), you can just easily write that because I hope that birthdays do not fluctuate unlike ages, eheh [20:45:01] [1/2] yeah i want here to say the date and then (age yrs old) [20:45:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483566854147674272/6377f31934db72ae54360bfb721ecbd9.png?ex=69bb0ecd&is=69b9bd4d&hm=c9c9f4fa7c0a44610f2456abf6abb47edae88460b075706e02c41835b8fb3d8b& [20:45:28] so im not entirely sure how to work around the code here [20:46:38] oh my god how do i import templates from mediawiki again its been so long [20:47:02] you can see what i said about module documentation above if that helps [20:47:21] oh my god thank u [20:47:28] [1/2] Before the `{{#expr: ...}}` Write their date of birth. [20:47:28] [2/2] Ex. July 7, 2001 (`{{#expr: ...}}` years old) [20:48:47] thanks! [20:49:17] For anyone wondering, its called Haven Social [20:49:46] I do have the request written but I'm not actually sending it until Haven Social's Kickstarter campaign reaches 100K dollars [20:50:22] [1/2] Why 100K? Heres their reason [20:50:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483568200783364350/E677EBA6-2F3F-4931-8D08-4F6D38229CD5.png?ex=69bb100e&is=69b9be8e&hm=b4272670e05d1d26ff1ecc368044cff4cc8eee3ec5c9b9c58e2070e7815a7824& [20:50:41] If anyone is willing to help them, I can send the link (depends if they want it here or in DMs) [20:52:23] ...huh? [20:52:31] What [20:52:37] bluesky 2 [20:52:41] brother r u just here to advertise [20:52:48] No not really [20:53:24] I dunno what this is for...? [20:53:49] The platform is to make both short and long form videos, as well as posting art [20:54:02] You can tell as to why people want this [20:54:05] I can [20:54:47] Right. Well good luck with the fundraiser. [20:58:52] reading the kickstarter rn [20:58:55] the whole thing is "trust me bro" [20:59:25] You do you [21:01:33] I as much would like to keep AI junk out of my stuff too, but these platforms I see either have their booms and become the next Bsky, or booms then immediately dying. It's a gamble for sure. [21:02:04] -# Hell it took Bsky almost 2 years to have a decent user count. [21:02:29] That's a cycle from what I understood [21:02:34] The first few days of YouTube... weren't that active [21:02:39] i just found theres an age module on dev wiki [21:02:43] bsky is also very censorship heavy from what ive heard [21:03:40] Hell no website can grow fastly to have a decent user count (either registered or view it) [21:04:00] I never had Bsky, but it's not like Twitter where there's a zero opt-out policy for AI scanning messages including images. [21:04:19] my only social media now are basically discord, tiktok and reddit 😭 [21:04:53] [1/2] by using template age I can have just this amount of code and i get the same result from ur code btw @daforest [21:04:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483571853028098168/a6c9ae717fee1379932236192f459f79.png?ex=69bb1375&is=69b9c1f5&hm=35febd1519e11aea9d92a3b780f9dcde9833faba192f8d76b87bbd2f02f093e9& [21:05:19] it just doesnt actually show the birthdate, just the year of age 😭 [21:05:21] Neat, I just stole the age code from somewhere else. [21:05:32] so im back at square one just with shorter code here [21:05:43] can you send this to me 🙏 [21:05:51] i could manually type it but theres gotta be a way to just have a template that says the date and then the year 🙁 [21:05:57] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Age [21:06:07] there are templates here u gotta get manually [21:06:09] some [21:06:12] why don't you just [21:06:15] make a template [21:06:45] you need one or the other to be put in manually [21:06:54] this just puts it in for u [21:07:26] Could you not enter "DOB ({{age|1986|7|27}} years old)"? [21:07:30] ^ [21:08:05] i can but i was hoping there would be a template that automatically just keeps that so i wouldnt have to do manual edits each time [21:08:12] well [21:08:14] then just [21:08:18] make a template [21:08:24] yeah but im not a coder 😭 [21:08:30] i dont know the first thing [21:08:32] where you insert {{{year}}}{{{month}}}{{{day}}} [21:08:45] [1/6] and then its [21:08:46] [2/6] {template [21:08:46] [3/6] | year = [21:08:46] [4/6] | month = [21:08:46] [5/6] |day = [21:08:47] [6/6] }}} [21:08:57] brb [21:08:58] and this would be built into your infobox [21:09:03] [1/2] "We will choose B" [21:09:03] [2/2] if I had a nickel for every time someone said something like that and actually ended up choosing A, I'd have a lot more than 2 nickels [21:09:15] Sometimes, you gotta make some experiments. [21:09:21] ^ [21:09:25] this is why Sandbox exists [21:09:35] my wiki wouldn't exist if i didn't experiment LOL [21:10:15] stares at those motherfucking...... progress bars.. [21:10:49] [1/2] these on the bottom of my character infobox drove me insane [21:10:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483573348368650361/image.png?ex=69bb14d9&is=69b9c359&hm=2db1920575befd1b2e10c840c3b90cd4b3b18e2ea91ae1fb0a2805283f3c524f& [21:11:46] Frankly even I would try this (pseudo-code but nevertheless) " ( years old)" [21:12:21] time to figure out how tf the navbox code works [21:12:35] It'll be kinda difficult even, I'm aware of that, but never hurts to try. [21:14:24] Oh so like a template before the template that does nothing but can easily be copied and pasted? [21:14:50] um [21:15:42] [1/7] {{Template:whatever the fuck}} would be embedded in the Infobox template next to Module:Age or whatever [21:15:42] [2/7] and then you would just call on it like any other template [21:15:43] [3/7] {{whatever the fuck [21:15:43] [4/7] | year = [21:15:43] [5/7] | month = [21:15:44] [6/7] |day = [21:15:44] [7/7] }} [21:15:44] [21:15:48] thanks wiki bot\ [21:16:03] i dont remember what emoji it is [21:16:29] I don’t understand I fear. I gotta walk my dog I’ll be back later [21:16:34] i [21:16:40] okay [21:17:34] I'd just reccommend to try an experiment. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [21:18:41] Or heck give them the code to do it, fwehehe... That will require you to also import that module into your wiki, but oh well. [21:19:01] but that's as simple as i can make it [21:19:25] well [21:22:28] [1/12] i guess it would be . [21:22:29] [2/12] Template:whatever [21:22:29] [3/12] ``/data [21:22:29] [4/12] /data [21:22:29] [5/12] /data`` [21:22:30] [6/12] and then [21:22:30] [7/12] {{whatever [21:22:30] [8/12] |year = [21:22:31] [9/12] |month = [21:22:31] [10/12] |day = [21:22:31] [11/12] }} [21:22:32] [12/12] and then {{whatever}} would just be next to {{age}} in the infobox [21:22:32] [1/2] [21:22:33] [2/2] [21:22:38] wtf is the emoji to delete them [21:23:04] @theredhead43 [21:23:42] -# I would just put them into ```code boxes``` to prevent the bot from going confuzzled [21:23:47] oh [21:23:51] yeah that's a good idea [21:26:47] oh god i need to do css for my navboxes [21:28:26] If you want to... you can change the styling in-tex [21:28:43] i'd rather a universal navbox code ngl [21:29:08] oh you mean on the template itself [21:29:09] i could [21:29:18] I guess what is making me confused as a non coder is because it looks so simple idk how it’s going to end up with it presenting for example January 1 2000 (26 years old) or smth like that [21:29:30] well [21:29:32] I’m the organizer and idea person not the execution person lmao [21:29:38] You're putting in the month day and year still [21:29:41] it's not doing the math [21:29:45] Yes I definitely get that [21:29:58] then it works like any other template that displays information for you [21:30:09] But I’d be putting it in by numbers ofc so it’s gotta convert 7 to July for example [21:30:22] ohhhh i see [21:30:25] yeah idk [21:30:27] i cant help you there [21:30:42] this is where u start messing around with stuff [21:30:54] It’s weird because when I edited on fandom we had smth that worked but I’ve no idea what it was [21:31:12] time to go find it [21:31:58] yes haha [21:32:31] Good thee luck [21:32:55] i found the template but it makes no sense to me lmao it most be using smth else [21:33:07] lemme see? [21:33:14] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483578986939416687/8fb8c3918082f71fcd12810c50953b3a.png?ex=69bb1a1a&is=69b9c89a&hm=eaf8823678cb09ad1299bcaf68f9312801ad9aafd32e6f9dfa0a35b528d4a596& [21:33:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483578987652317317/b735845c9c53120bb287c42c3d07999a.png?ex=69bb1a1a&is=69b9c89a&hm=12d07b241dae707002e7bb7ecdc85e4a38e957cd4737b8afce63d8acfe3b80cb& [21:33:23] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Birth_date_and_age [21:33:41] [1/2] and dont forget these [21:33:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483579099116208348/image.png?ex=69bb1a34&is=69b9c8b4&hm=4a16e3b2c025d27790481e7875b2e815554990535f93aae83759b8a8fe85c0cc& [21:34:05] whenever i find a template i just search it up on dev.miraheze.org [21:34:47] i might use this actually [21:35:03] ok this is all so much for me to compute im sure its nothing to anyone who acc has coding experience lol [21:35:12] nah i understand dw [21:35:21] just [21:35:26] import those 3 templates [21:35:32] and then use it as it's used in fandom [21:35:33] yes i imported all of them already [21:35:40] alright ill try it [21:36:08] THANK GOD IT WORKS [21:36:12] https://tenor.com/view/loonarmpits-jessi-nununana-kpop-gif-19300274 [21:36:13] :3 [21:36:21] its a st patricks day miracle! [21:36:36] -# And this is why my wiki uses fictional ages... This all seems like a headache. [21:36:51] if i didnt get this done today, it wouldve been TERRIBLE later [21:36:52] wdym by fictional ages [21:37:04] Fictional people. [21:37:40] i love the concept of fictional ages [21:37:50] i wonder if i can make a version of these templates for my own worldbuilding [21:38:10] they use a different year system [21:38:11] My wiki is a fandom wiki for an artist, so we can just slap a stationary age on there. [21:38:16] import module age and everything else u told me to import [21:38:22] well [21:38:25] yes thank you sherlock [21:38:26] but [21:38:29] lmaooo [21:38:40] my POINT that i was going to make [21:38:46] is that they use different year [21:38:48] *years [21:38:59] so i'd have to mess around [21:39:08] oh i see [21:39:11] yep [21:39:44] our 2025 is their 14,831 [21:40:01] 2026 even [21:40:07] no. 2025 [21:40:16] 2026 would be 14,832 [21:40:41] technically it's supposed to be 2023 [21:40:44] but [21:40:47] i dont care that much [21:41:59] My fandom wiki has a webcomic set in 2017 when it was created in 2017, but obviously it's 2026 now. [21:42:10] Custom calendar systems I hear? [21:42:16] yeah [21:42:22] Yesssss [21:42:41] I want to eventually rename the seasons and alter the months to coincide with phases of the moon [21:42:47] but [21:42:49] im lazy [21:43:08] and they've since adopted modern conventions for date [21:43:10] but [21:43:29] the year hasn't changed because their history starts much longer ago [21:45:18] -# That sounds way too smart for even my own vague understanding of MediaWiki. [21:45:30] meh [21:45:39] im just autistic and like my funky lil guys [21:47:15] -# My (probable) autistic arse would wanna look into this further, but even I would get too tired. [21:47:30] Like right now, bwlep [21:49:24] this is me rn my autistic things rn are gymnastics wiki, pokemon infinite fusion and my vision for a fangame id never make, and thinking too much about random things while trying to sleep [21:49:30] real [21:49:34] my autism is just my sillies [21:49:36] my dragons [21:50:26] Autism 🤝 ADHD [21:51:11] the difference between my fandom attempt half a decade ago and today is that this time i annoyed enough ppl to be willing to help me [21:51:26] im doing this solo 😃 🔫 [21:51:30] bc aint no way im doing this on my own. only reason i have time to do this is because job market trash and our economy about to collapse so 💀 [21:51:38] i have 1000s of pages to do in theory [21:52:08] competitions and gymnast pages alone are in the 1000s [22:02:17] I have to wait for my other wiki bureaucrat to edit since... well... he is the creator of the fandom. I just do the proofreading and other technical details. [22:02:46] -# And boy do does he take his sweet time [22:05:29] I wish fandom didn’t nuke itself [22:05:46] It was so much better years ago [22:08:52] hey same [22:09:24] I used to contribute at tf2 wiki and tcrf but I dislike both those sites and their individual restrictions on what can be documented, so I started my own wiki up [22:14:20] what was wrong with tf2wiki [22:14:22] and the staff [22:15:26] I could go on at length tbh, but this isn't the place for this [22:18:15] #offtopic on the other hand... [22:18:27] (obvs only if you want to) [22:19:37] Can I ask what tf2wiki is before we change subjects [22:19:41] It's on a revision of my user page on my wiki from February 4 2026 (I've since removed the chunk off my page) [22:19:45] Never heard of it [22:20:03] [Team Fortress 2 Wiki](https://wiki.teamfortress.com) [22:20:16] Ohhh [22:22:52] any of yall know css 😮‍💨 [22:22:55] ts pmo [22:23:44] 🖐️ [22:25:35] [1/10] i'm trying to shove a margin between the table header and the group . it's basic navbox with css im doing in inspect element [22:25:36] [2/10] ``.navbox-title{color:var(--yellow);height:4em;background-color:rgb(from var(--fire) r g b / 50%);} [22:25:36] [3/10] .navbar-mini{visibility:hidden;} [22:25:36] [4/10] .navbox { [22:25:36] [5/10] text-align: center; [22:25:37] [6/10] background-color:rgb(from var(--bg-secondary) r g b / 50%); [22:25:37] [7/10] color: inherit; [22:25:37] [8/10] } [22:25:38] [9/10] `` [22:25:38] [10/10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483592162951041226/image.png?ex=69bb265f&is=69b9d4df&hm=1f2b36c12f6df24c37d3e7029677fbc031999142e1fed6efa201b05bf3ed99dd& [22:33:10] you can make code blocks with \`\`\` (see https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline#h_01GY0DAKGXDEHE263BCAYEGFJA) [22:33:35] you can make them syntax-highlighted with \`\`\`css [22:33:42] yeah i know how to discord markdown i'm just being lazy rn [22:34:08] doesn't change how it gets copied or pasted [22:35:08] I don't think it's that much more effort to make it look nice, it's like two extra characters [22:35:29] it doesn't need to look nice it's a block of code :pensivesob: [22:36:24] 💀 [22:37:26] Its more readable, I'm basically skipping all code that's not in a code block because its unreadable lmao [22:40:58] [1/3] `Totally` [22:40:59] [2/3] ```Effective``` [22:40:59] [3/3] ```IMO ya know?``` [22:48:59] [1/15] ```css [22:48:59] [2/15] .navbox-title { [22:48:59] [3/15] color: var(--yellow); [22:49:00] [4/15] height: 4em; [22:49:00] [5/15] background-color: rgb(from var(--fire) r g b / 50%); [22:49:00] [6/15] } [22:49:01] [7/15] .navbar-mini { [22:49:01] [8/15] visibility: hidden; [22:49:01] [9/15] } [22:49:02] [10/15] .navbox { [22:49:02] [11/15] text-align: center; [22:49:03] [12/15] background-color: rgb(from var(--bg-secondary) r g b / 50%); [22:49:03] [13/15] color: inherit; [22:49:04] [14/15] } [22:49:04] [15/15] ``` there we go beautiful [22:49:21] now it can actually be read and so you can actually get help with it [22:50:23] how do you check if a page is in a given category using lua [22:50:32] I don't know if you can [22:50:38] you can definitely do it using DPL [22:52:02] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#Title_objects looks like you can but it's expensive [22:52:14] yeah i noticed that [22:52:59] the wiki economy rough these days [22:53:41] they introduced newBatch to keep the cost of living down but they weren't able to apply that to categories [22:54:04] guys [22:54:05] guys [22:54:35] [1/2] how do i do this [22:54:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483599460499062955/image.png?ex=69bb2d2b&is=69b9dbab&hm=19d989a8ca0248af69e037a40b2a528c988a6bfbb9043e5b5a51371d2fe00e29& [22:54:45] like, being able to change between covers [22:54:55] looks like a portableinfobox `` tag [22:55:04] bro I was playing minecraft with my friends and I got a discord message from this server. This is when I remembed that I am a member of this server [22:55:27] [1/2] omg you're right [22:55:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483599676660777121/image.png?ex=69bb2d5e&is=69b9dbde&hm=18e5597ebc5506b36231b8b542d14f032b236d1c440e7c89f41bc09d5f00b4a1& [23:13:11] BTW is there a way to display 2 diff release dates? [23:13:17] or do i have to add another variable to the template [23:17:17] not sure what you mean [23:17:55] [1/3] You could have the release date like ``` [23:17:55] [2/3] |releaste_date = date 1 (USA)
[23:17:55] [3/3] date 2 (EU)``` [23:19:35] [1/2] tysmm ❤️ [23:19:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483605750340390953/image.png?ex=69bb3306&is=69b9e186&hm=601ce10c61be435d200c49652b245015586d45795b5994f58593e5d630e5b43e& [23:28:02] [1/2] yeah that trick helped tons [23:28:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483607876613443707/image.png?ex=69bb3501&is=69b9e381&hm=acb1fb077e6ab229c60574a7addc525d3c3e92efd34e23a3fa6593adc2cc7e24& [23:30:27] [1/4] now for some reason the mediawiki parser likes being silly so there's actually a difference between ``` [23:30:28] [2/4] |length = 1:26
[23:30:28] [3/4] 1:49 (Visualizer)``` and ``` [23:30:28] [4/4] |length = 1:26
1:49 (Visualizer)``` [23:30:50] -# There is?! [23:31:12] you see how the two lengths are different font sizes? [23:31:21] the second one would avoid that problem [23:31:39] you can also use CSS for that [23:31:45] Ah, I just thought that was using the tag [23:32:14] [1/2] um [23:32:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1483608929102594282/image.png?ex=69bb35fc&is=69b9e47c&hm=031470670b59d98bbc7cd814c78542de53fa2aae1b8aff699f6562cfd3e362a4& [23:32:43] [1/2] hmm [23:32:44] [2/2] Anyway there's still an extra paragraph that gets inserted [23:33:16] [1/6] I've always did [23:33:16] [2/6] ```|text = data [23:33:16] [3/6]
[23:33:17] [4/6] |text = data [23:33:17] [5/6] ``` [23:33:17] [6/6] Either way. [23:33:33] Since to me that feels more structurally sound [23:40:22] yall do people here let others check out wikis to give critics? like from pro to the developer of wiki idek [23:40:37] is that a thing to do here basically [23:44:34] is there any way to stop [this navbox ]() from shrinking when I collapse it? i think it's a JS thing but I don't know the first thing abt JS [23:47:30] table styling should be `style="border-spacing:0;background:transparent;color:inherit;width: 100%;"` [23:49:55] AH. thank you