[00:04:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awesomeguy112> ty
[00:08:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] What am I looking at
[00:08:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485067624504361011/Screenshot_20260321-210603.png?ex=69c08480&is=69bf3300&hm=5b9cee9f3ebf844cb3717afad1106dfe49aed47834e3dc8fe970f4305e822820&
[00:09:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awesomeguy112> it marks which got tabber
[00:10:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> No i know that
[00:11:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> I'm talking about that weird thing that changes how the category list looks like
[00:13:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> What mobile skin are you using
[00:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> Looks like a skin-only feature
[00:13:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> Unless I'm mistaken
[00:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> works on fallback: https://fnafmw.wiki/Category:Pages_using_Tabber_parser_tag?useskin=fallback
[00:15:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Dynamic_Categories
[00:17:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> So that's the answer
[00:30:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to qirimcak> can anyone help with this?
[00:37:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> Guess you didn't see this: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1485034970496893018
[00:38:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> https://paganmap.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[01:03:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [1/5] Currently you have a static value for both light and dark modes. The simplest solution here would be to use a variable for this and other elements that also have a "night" counterpart:
[01:03:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [2/5] ```
[01:03:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [3/5] background-color: var(--background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa) #f8f9fa;
[01:03:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [4/5] ```
[01:03:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485081406630658189/image.png?ex=69c09156&is=69bf3fd6&hm=2dfcfce20ba1a07926169ec0fb50a0a47ac9305f00c112884b9291eaed78e95a&
[01:03:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> its not about color
[01:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> its the fact that no bar exists at all
[01:03:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> its supposed to be an infobox but there is nothing
[01:04:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> its just a white rectangle
[01:06:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> VE always shows infoboxes in their base form. Only source editor and actually saving the page show the template with the parameters you established
[01:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aquaileron> How long do wiki rename requests take?
[01:07:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to edwrin> and how do i fill it then
[01:10:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [1/2] By clicking "Edit" and then "Add undocumented parameter". If you know it's name your provide it, followed by its value: https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country#Syntax
[01:10:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485083249117237400/image.png?ex=69c0930e&is=69bf418e&hm=e4976ba873522446e596ee130ad6f351e48124835477c1c527f69146bd9ba3d5&
[01:11:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> just like
[01:11:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> "native_name"
[01:11:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> ?
[01:11:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> or like |native_name
[01:12:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> no, "native_name" in "Parameter name"
[01:12:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485083733106364486/image.png?ex=69c09381&is=69bf4201&hm=dc085c1cc6320c16794febc7b7e15b601d618cd8a2d93516decd84de651573d7&
[01:13:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <away.from.keyboard> apologies if this is the wrong channel (i'm not sure if this is worth opening a support thread for), but it seems recently all the png uploads to my wiki got a layer of JPEG compression added to them and i can't get versions without the jpeg compression?
[01:17:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <away.from.keyboard> [1/3] like, even when opening the .png file at full resolution, it has jpeg compression when i know for a fact they originally didn't
[01:17:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <away.from.keyboard> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485084997449941183/image.png?ex=69c094ae&is=69bf432e&hm=e996811eae1ced86df78c894c98fcaa3a6b3d719caea057c8f7bad43089d9f79&
[01:17:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <away.from.keyboard> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485084997999268052/image.png?ex=69c094af&is=69bf432f&hm=819037a2a54933f13679cbf272bbe0d64a12b62843fb5166e656edb009ade8f6&
[01:21:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to edwrin> ok uhh and
[01:21:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> how do i add a template from wikipedia?
[01:31:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> I think you should first read: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/Don%27t_import_Wikipedia
[01:32:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to away.from.keyboard> Yeah I was gonna say this looks like a post worthy but I see you already create it
[01:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <away.from.keyboard> yeah i figured i should after realizing it's almost every image
[01:34:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to aquaileron> it really depends on stewards' availability, but I'd say between 1 and 5 days on average
[01:34:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Actually no
[01:35:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> renames (changing the url) are not Stewards
[01:35:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> That kind of server stuff has to be the Technology Team
[01:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> oh right
[01:37:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Your range still seems about right
[01:37:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] what is this
[01:37:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485090131663786157/image.png?ex=69c09977&is=69bf47f7&hm=0da830bce3b841ce50e631cc025619688a328fa9410fe6ad75bdb8453611a9c1&
[01:38:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Huh
[01:38:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Probably the extension that adds a share link to pages
[01:38:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i don't even have any share extension enabled why is it on "Manage this wiki's permissions"
[01:39:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> shrug
[01:39:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> where can i find other templates except the ones on dev?
[01:39:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> i specifically need an infobox
[01:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to bartomelow> weird, it doesn't appear on mine
[01:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] what are these aswell
[01:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485091386578436257/image.png?ex=69c09aa2&is=69bf4922&hm=187a20963d5d643315ebb4e12c5c8221a821caeba85b70951694d682a2fafaa0&
[01:43:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> Why not [create your own](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Infoboxes )? [PortableInfobox]([Extension:PortableInfobox](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PortableInfobox)) is quite simple to use
[01:43:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> that didn't embed right
[01:44:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to edwrin> this looks so complicated
[01:44:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> 😭
[01:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> ..it, sags
[01:44:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> wish i took coding while i could
[01:45:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> PortableInfoboxes has a visual builder
[01:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> how surprising, doesn't seem to be enabled by default (or that's what i believe)
[01:45:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to pixldev> and there are pages of essays
[01:45:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> telling me how to get there
[01:45:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> but i legit cant
[01:46:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> check what group
[01:46:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Not on for * but prob user
[01:46:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> or vise versa
[01:46:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to qirimcak> to the builder?
[01:46:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> yeah
[01:47:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> i reckon all of these tutorials were written considering a coder reads them
[01:47:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> not an ordinary person
[01:47:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[Special:InfoboxBuilder]] maybe? Let me check
[01:47:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder?action=edit&redlink=1>
[01:47:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> nope
[01:47:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to qirimcak> Most wiki editors aren’t software devs
[01:47:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> both `User` and `*` don't seem to have those enabled for whatever reason
[01:47:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to pixldev> how do they even get around then
[01:48:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> to understand the simplest thing you have to read a dozen essays with codes swirling around them
[01:49:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder
[01:49:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> idk man
[01:49:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> these user permissions are truly confusing
[01:49:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to qirimcak> You get used to it, I promise lol. A lot of it is just understanding syntax
[01:50:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/3] ie, '''this''' makes bold text, 
[01:50:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/3] == this makes headings ==
[01:50:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [3/3] So on
[01:50:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> -# and learning from error, like mathematics
[01:50:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak, replying to pixldev> we switched from fandom to miraheze for easier interactions 🥀
[01:51:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Portable does use XML which is more complicated but still just a tree of tags. But yes to someone who’s not used to it it’s a bit
[01:51:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If there’s particular things you’re trying to understand, feel free to ask and I’ll do my best to answer
[01:51:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> basically
[01:51:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin, replying to qirimcak> for me it was freedom and transparency. I swear I didn't know anything about templates, modules etc before switching
[01:51:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> we are a group of 100
[01:52:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> we used to use fandom
[01:52:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> but it felt limited and unlike wikipedia which we tried to imitate
[01:52:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> so we held a vote to switch to miraheze which we assumed would be wikipedia 2.0
[01:52:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> and now its 5 am and im trying to get around trying to find a way to add an infobox template
[01:52:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> 💔
[01:53:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> what i need is an infobox that imitates wikipedia's one but i frankly have no idea how
[01:54:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> wikipedia's infoboxes are quite complicated ngl, filled with so many dependencies. If you don't want something too crazy just enable the PortableInfobox extension and then go to Special:InfoboxBuilder.
[01:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> how does that work
[01:55:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <edwrin> test it yourself: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1485092952777691220
[01:58:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> i think ill take a break
[01:58:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> maybe indefinitely idek atp 😭
[01:59:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qirimcak> https://tenor.com/view/guitar-wobble-dee-j-inx-big-foot-jinx-swag-gif-23185686
[02:03:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest, replying to qirimcak> Just take your time and slowly get adjusted, experiment, and see what seems feasible first before doing something "complex".
[02:03:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> If you are still stuck, you are always free to ask here.
[02:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wrangler0424, replying to notaracham> Looks like I may need email tech group.  The problem archiving with archive.org seems to effect certain pages. (sigh)
[02:25:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoinebeauruben> Hello, I am looking for a list of trusted, high-authority wiki platforms that allow for custom subdomains (for example: name.wiki.org), I am starting a new professional project and I need a platform that is reliable and highly regarded for hosting such content, Could you please provide a list of recommended websites that offer these features? Thank you.
[02:26:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i think you're on the right place
[02:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> I mean... <https://meta.miraheze.org> is one lol
[02:30:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <antoinebeauruben, replying to bartomelow> Thank you! Could you please recommend the top 3 most trusted and high-authority wiki platforms that allow for custom subdomains for a professional project? I want to make sure I choose the most reputable one Thanks
[02:31:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> -# Who knew that Caine infiltrated Miraheze.
[02:31:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to antoinebeauruben> ... by what i mean by "right place" i meant you're on it right now
[02:31:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> They're banned now.
[02:31:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Already gone, no need to continue
[02:31:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> oh?
[02:31:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> what kind of atrocities did they do
[02:32:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> -# I would say bot-like behavior in my opinion, but I am not here to say and I should shut my mouth, bweep.
[02:34:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to daforest> Accurate for Caine, honestly.
[02:35:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> what's caine?
[02:35:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> The Amazing Digital Circus character.
[02:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Character from The Amazing Digital Circus
[02:36:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> me when the AM goes haywire
[02:37:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> In short, an AI that has total control of a software program called the Digital Circus. And is influenced from AM in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
[02:39:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> That's him a in a nutshell and I love him as a character. Very well thought-out!
[04:21:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to bartomelow> https://tenor.com/bO2ay7HyAK3.gif
[04:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> aright... get the garden hose
[05:11:03] <Account44>	 Why do so many people have an account on k6ka.miraheze.org
[05:51:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charlicak35_> [1/2] what is "minangkabau" in the uploadwizard extension
[05:51:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charlicak35_> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1485153912356081694/image.png?ex=69c0d4dd&is=69bf835d&hm=a7d6b256c8921e3ed3b50602cb436dd51d00d52b5557a88e55c831d7cf258f60&
[06:28:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to charlicak35_> Language maybe? [[w:Minangkabau]]
[06:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minangkabau>
[06:28:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charlicak35_> it's the only option in that dropdown lol
[06:28:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> Wow weird bug