[00:01:08] i'm generally a fan of ones that place sidebars on both sides, the left holding sitewide links (links to specific pages, "Upload file", etc.) and the right holding page-specific links (Move, properties, etc.) [00:06:48] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_manage_who_can_edit_my_wiki [00:06:48] [2/2] Take editing permissions away from everyone [00:20:35] Different UX laws into play with tradeoffs, depends on the type of wiki and public [00:21:52] But generally I prefer left sidebar [00:25:24] [03:07:50] Ditto this. I like having dual sidebars. [04:37:57] how long do i need to wait for appearance changes to set again [04:40:20] if you mean like stuff on the MediaWiki namespace, 10 mins [04:44:09] [1/2] i am repeatedly getting this issue when i try to see my User preferences and it is only on this wiki, i have no issue on the main meta.miraheze wiki [04:44:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491659963708342292/image.png?ex=69d88019&is=69d72e99&hm=1d8d27177ead4499d5b1f4a31887edd4d527b3f4e9432c73b2c47fd3a3c0641d& [04:44:26] well [04:44:28] it sometimes works [04:48:06] Is there some way to get images used in templates only to not be considered "unused" by Special:UnusedFiles? [04:49:45] Other than throwing them all in a random page. I'd much rather have it tweaked to where it shows the files in use on a template and if transcluded onto a page by said template [05:10:43] my preferences remain dead [05:11:30] naw i mean like skins [05:13:43] I unfortunately dont think there is a proper way to do so. Best idea I can think of is to dedicate a maintenance page on ur wiki that contains file links to all the images only used in templates. Or better yet you might be able to include the file link to the image directly in the template but incasing it in [05:15:03] Oh wait I think I know why, it's because I'm calling the image with Special:FilePath and tags 🤦 [05:15:22] Oh yeah that would do it [05:15:25] I may have to do the dedicated page [05:15:44] you just do [[File:imagename.png]] [05:15:45]

[05:16:04] Had to do it that way for my diff viewer JavaScript funcs [05:17:03] now if u use an image exclusively in any modules than you would need to make sure u have a link provided to the image somewhere else on the wiki [05:17:36] There's a parser function in Extension:ImgTag that allows you mark a file as used. [05:17:49] Ooh [05:17:56] `{{#fileused:Filename.png}}` [05:18:14] That'll make this so much easier [05:18:57] ugh preferences are still dead [05:18:59] theres expectunusedcategory, expectunusedtemplate, suprised there isnt one for files [05:19:03] ill have to just continue without it for now [05:29:31] Copy paste the error hash (random sequence of letters and numbers) and report it on [[Phorge]] plz. [05:29:31]

[05:33:17] aye aye petramagna [07:40:19] I suspect it's wgSkipSkins [07:44:43] ^ https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15092 [08:09:19] [1/2] @thewwrnerdguy so, after some work I managed to launch both Cargo and Bucket [08:09:19] [2/2] The issue with Cargo is type=text not working correctly, it is still a VARCHAR(300). I truncated every description field to 300 characters and it stopped failing 🍻 [08:15:31] and it seems like type=wikitext has the same implicit limit [08:19:06] type=string(500) declaring a size explicitly like this also does nothing [08:19:44] thats at least what i''ve found for now 😄 [10:15:06] do you have to use the seo tag directly on the page or can you use a template that has it to the same effect? [12:23:42] nah it was setting a non-global skin to the default and then disabling the skin [12:26:17] we love it when extensions fail silently [12:52:06] does bucket lack any features from cargo [12:55:08] Cargo comes with more stuff by default [12:56:58] given infinite time and technical knowledge, you can overcome most of these except the lack of any SQL LIKE statements [13:21:59] sql 🤤 [13:31:19] [1/2] anyone experiencing this? :) [13:31:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491792631020261436/image.png?ex=69d8fba7&is=69d7aa27&hm=ff999ae688a7ceb1120d5aa7b613dd9709b95eebfb5a2f3cfd872f4573de34aa& [13:31:23] <_______________________________d> yep 🙁 [13:31:53] mhm [13:31:53] <_______________________________d> this has been happening to a lot of wiki farms, weirdly enough [13:32:01] Yes [13:32:03] It's known [13:32:08] working on it? [13:32:12] @Infrastructure Specialists anyone else around [13:32:16] No [13:32:23] i love that i don't even have to ask anymore, i just gotta look at this channel and see what's happening [13:32:41] the heze has died once more [13:33:10] fr fr [13:33:29] it's back i think [13:33:31] yeah the site loads but nothing works [13:33:36] nvm it works [13:33:37] :) [13:33:57] It's a database issue [13:34:07] what causes it tho [13:34:09] But I'm on a train and don't have WiFi so I can't do anything [13:34:16] No idea but it alerted [13:34:25] ahh [13:34:37] will mass pinging the servers cause it to crash out [13:34:43] just a question [13:35:17] No but please don't do it for the sake of it [13:35:25] okay i won;t [13:35:33] You can't even ping the database directly because it's on a private network [13:36:20] i think mass pinging is not even possible due to rate limits [13:37:12] It is now being worked on [13:37:19] There are still issues for some wikis [13:37:26] glad I'm not pressing too many buttons right now [13:38:18] server just had a hiccup i think [13:38:55] yes, a database has had a little hiccup [13:39:26] mhm [13:41:28] Things should be recovering fully within the next few moments [13:41:44] Press away! [13:42:46] down? [13:43:10] just got fixed [13:43:29] Scratch that [13:43:32] It's upset again [13:43:33] [1/2] well that's ironic [13:43:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491795708771172562/image.png?ex=69d8fe85&is=69d7ad05&hm=0e32bd166e8a02d91d127b2e4fb2e106236bbe3a56b770656210d8335eb96af1& [13:43:54] <2n32, replying to potatoesaregood1> yeps, thought i was the only one [13:43:56] We're investigating [13:44:01] mhm [13:44:07] It looked like it was calming down but nope [13:44:12] i'm going to make some food while i wait :) [13:44:16] We gave the database load again and it said nope [13:44:18] this community chill [13:44:26] ey its back? [13:44:27] <.zamuza> [1/2] man i just want my vocaloid yuri lyrics 😭 [13:44:28] <.zamuza> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491795936412700932/IMG_6385.jpeg?ex=69d8febb&is=69d7ad3b&hm=89e9a32fe97d25fea56253fc357828f8f8e106773e3bab9332385c9801e5dc41& [13:44:54] crtl + shift + r not down :) [13:44:57] 75% of wikis should be back [13:45:05] That will not help [13:45:08] lol [13:45:15] If you're seeing the unscheduled maint page, your wiki is down [13:45:22] If you're not, your wiki should be up [13:45:27] 😆 [13:45:41] <2n32, replying to .zamuza> shopee 🔥🔥 [13:45:51] just making sure its not my wifi [13:45:55] <.zamuza> it keeps switching between bad gateway and unscheduled maintenance so i don’t know which one 😭 it was alright for like a minute and a half before i clicked another link [13:46:11] looks like it's fine [13:46:56] <2n32> damn that was a really quick downtime [13:47:09] the team very fast [13:47:09] <2n32> like, _really_ quick [13:47:15] <2n32> W miraheze [13:47:30] W miraheze [13:47:42] although more server downs compared to fandom... [13:47:44] glory to miraheze [13:47:56] <.zamuza> miraheze my goat [13:48:21] it's still under maintenance for me😭 [13:48:45] <.zamuza> yeah apparently some wikis have this unscheduled maintenance thing i believe [13:48:58] <.zamuza> like the one i’m currently on is having that [13:49:18] We are looking [13:49:25] So intently I nearly missed my time to get off the train [13:49:34] omg 😭 [13:49:38] glory to miraheze team [13:50:09] GLORY TO MIRAHEZE!! [13:50:16] <.zamuza> true… true…….. [13:50:25] <.zamuza> my yuri can wait glory to the miraheze team [13:50:48] Ten trillion maintenance hours to Miraheze [13:51:15] I didn't [13:51:18] We're going to attempt to repool the problematic database cluster again now [13:51:20] Luckily [13:51:45] wait until the people near the servers smell smoke [13:51:52] lmao [13:52:03] that will be a great time for them [13:52:36] Adam Savage always says, when you let the magic blue smoke out, things don't tend to work after that [13:52:42] is miraheze on a budget or something [13:52:49] maybe that explains it [13:52:51] All wikis should be back; monitoring now whether the issues arise again [13:52:56] oh it works! [13:53:11] <.zamuza> GLORY TO THE MIRAHEZE TEAM I CAN FINALLY READ THE YURI LYRICS [13:53:32] yep it worked [13:53:45] GLORY TO THE MIRAHEZE TEAM I CAN FINALLY LOOK AT STARBASIS STUFF [13:54:27] GLORY TO THE MIRAHEZE TEAM FOR FIXING ALL THE WIKIS [13:56:32] <2n32> GLORY TO THE MIRAHEZE TEAM FOR MIRAHEZE [13:57:45] You'd be surprised how common have intermittent errors become over there recently [13:58:26] https://tenor.com/vvw8ibjfzki.gif [13:58:39] Some special pages just straight up stopped working when they switched to Cloudflare and there's no discernible reason why [13:59:07] which? [14:03:51] has been down for me for months but just as I write this it comes back lol [14:04:14] I mean everyone has a budget but no, our finances have nothing to do with the incident. [14:04:40] This one is dead for a while [14:05:59] it was just cuz people said the servers or whatever would begin smoking [14:06:44] I believe that was a joke. The servers are not emitting smoke nor on fire. [14:08:41] yeah i know its just when people say stuff like that its about things that are low quality or just not the best (example: spirit airlines) [14:14:56] How to determine if miraheze working: does discord think our server is being raided? [14:16:15] Long time no see [14:17:54] a:AFoxy_Wave: [14:56:23] Imma tire... [14:56:49] Woagh... 🛞 [15:00:01] :Hello: [15:00:04] Hello everyone [15:00:08] :Hello: [15:20:03] is there a magic word that gets the date of a page's first revision [15:40:33] Can anyone help me? [15:40:40] Im having a issue which i dont understand how to solve [15:42:38] what is the issue? [15:42:49] Heyy, thanks for replying [15:43:01] I have seen that whenever I zoom out in my wiki (Im using citizen skin) [15:43:15] Everything, the texts the headlines move towards the middle [15:43:20] and space is left in the left and right [15:44:03] is it the same issue as in https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1478298982265651438 ? [15:44:41] Yes, seems to be [15:51:56] Guh this seems so hard to fix [15:52:04] I've tried a lot but doesnt seem to fix it [15:52:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491828136332230687/image.png?ex=69d91cb8&is=69d7cb38&hm=8bace2035b026e1b2c8596e4aac65aa4817acef0ad5c089111661376ef7488ac& [15:54:06] put `?debug=2` at the end of the url and see if that fixes it [15:56:13] seems to have made it worse [15:56:42] while i did it with the code my pages became like centered, i removed the code still centered guh [15:58:32] My website is thecomputerunion.miraheze.org [15:58:45] ah ok looks like the one I was doing was about the width of the content box [15:58:52] The website im tryna get my one to look like is computerunion.miraheze.org [15:58:53] [1/2] there should be a button on the sidebar that looks like this [15:58:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491829763164213369/IMG_7613.png?ex=69d91e3c&is=69d7ccbc&hm=bf7815620cb21b53d044f990405362bceece8a98958eaf9015f2e66f8ac0c501& [15:58:53] but the css box doesn't scale with that [15:59:04] click it and select "wide" under "width" [16:00:33] Oh so thats why [16:01:26] Hey man thanks for the help! [16:27:23] [1/2] how do i get the "wikitide" link for the latest version of this file [16:27:23] [2/2] https://tokuwin.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Fontaso.ttf [16:30:01] Hi all! I just tried to sign up for an account but had Proton VPN turned on and it seems to have banned me. I turned off the VPN but I'm still getting the message. Could an admin help unblock me please? The block ID is #177587. [16:30:21] [1/2] This link right here [16:30:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491837683700334612/image.png?ex=69d9259c&is=69d7d41c&hm=b2d95b1bfc15485f69008fd7170ac096a5c20136d52f267de851f2c88ec5570d& [16:30:36] it just downloads the file [16:30:51] wait i got it [16:30:51] Yeah but you can right click on it and select copy link [16:30:56] yup [16:38:33] <_chrs_, replying to broken_ox> clear your cookies [16:41:01] It should be anon-only so it shouldn't affect you logging in. You might be affected trying to auto create an account the first time you login on a new wiki though. [16:41:24] Clearing your cookies should fix the block once the VPN is turned off as @_chrs_ says [16:42:01] Ah that worked, thank you! [16:57:57] [1/4] Seems like cirrus search is broken on that part, was finding the images correctly before enabling it :lifeless: [16:57:57] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491844630570995805/image.png?ex=69d92c15&is=69d7da95&hm=bd86327987c2a38a02f1d5c2c7dbf067eb39e15a7fd1a6caf41bf56de377e58f& [16:57:58] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491844630868660344/image.png?ex=69d92c15&is=69d7da95&hm=84a898f8185743df2bd1d4f96d2d4657899be03fa993a3441ce9cf40981b4f9e& [16:57:58]