[00:17:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> hello friends my staff @kaffeinatedanimated needs help logging in, she was having issues with auth and cant log into meta, it says her user/pw is wrong and she cant recover pw due to her ip being blocked for some reason
[00:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> no vpn
[00:44:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Has she tried logging in on meta and then the wiki and can’t log in on?
[00:44:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> There’s been log in issues lately but that fixed mine
[00:48:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kaffeinatedanimated> yeah I've tried logging into meta then phighting wiki but the issue shows up on meta
[00:49:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> RIP sorry then.
[00:56:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [1/2] hi this has smth to do with the maintenance right? i tried refreshing and same thing happened
[00:56:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1494864121563447296/image.png?ex=69e42833&is=69e2d6b3&hm=4350a4dc2d1ec06981d4710a1c2d27ee9a2cf161dd6ed76fec64530df4e34854&
[00:57:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yzxs> sometimes it logs me in, sometimes it logs me out
[01:01:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee> try logging in on meta
[01:06:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster> Need help with tooltips in the sidebar menu. I have a target and ID in the mediawiki:sidebar which gives me the desired sidebar link "Getting started". However, editing the page created by searching for "MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-Getting started" does not give a tooltip when hovering over the sidebar link. My only guess is it's something with the space in the ID but I really don't know
[01:16:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to afterglou> nevermind! its all fine
[01:16:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> looks like it just needed time
[01:16:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy, replying to kaffeinatedanimated> could u make a #support thread?
[01:17:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to tostmaster> can you add  `?uselang=qqx` to the URL and see what the sidebar link shows?
[01:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster> [1/2] does the text in the tooltip mean anything to you? am i even in the right space?
[01:21:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1494870407415861389/Screenshot_2026-04-17_202009.png?ex=69e42e0e&is=69e2dc8e&hm=04c8616b2ac739d2efe126973b6f079d3e922fdb86c93fc851df309d0e2b1648&
[01:22:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to tostmaster> you'll want to edit `MediaWiki:Tooltip-n-Getting-started`
[01:22:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_> (`-` instead of ` `)
[01:22:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster, replying to _chrs_> ahhhh thank you so much!
[01:24:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster, replying to _chrs_> Just confirming that I have the right tooltip appearing now, much appreciated!
[01:35:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_chrs_, replying to tostmaster> glad to hear it's working!
[03:10:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <coolpersonhurrah> [1/2] does anyone know the issue here? I don't know how to create a background for the infobox, as well as shifting it on the right so the body text isnt above/below it
[03:10:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <coolpersonhurrah> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1494897954505363656/Screenshot_2026-04-17_at_8.09.48_PM.png?ex=69e447b6&is=69e2f636&hm=bead694530fb6dd0902e5ddc4cbe025afa587591bef0a3856a71c20af3e86d78&
[04:30:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> Images and other custom styling are not loading for any Miraheze wiki on my end.
[04:31:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> My neighbor’s WiFi is fine with it, they use the same ISP.
[04:40:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> [1/2] I get this looping when I try and open an image.
[04:40:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1494920516257972224/image.png?ex=69e45cb9&is=69e30b39&hm=43d274d0c08ac16a4875d9402c72e105e4169e5c65c87063d6cbef645a9bcf9b&
[04:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iris.of.alexandria> I am still running into issues where I keep getting marked as "are you logged in psyche you're not let's refresh five times and then you're logged in again" when editing pages
[04:43:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid, replying to coolpersonhurrah> does the infobox have `float: right` on it?
[04:46:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <coolpersonhurrah, replying to sylphoid> No it doesn't, thanks for telling me
[04:47:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> Anyone on the tech team here?
[04:49:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> Cloudflare returns 403 cf-mitigated: challenge
[04:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> there was a cloudflare DNS issue earlier today
[04:52:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> but
[04:52:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> no idea if it is still a related issue with your images
[04:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> I mean mine is still broken.
[04:53:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> I guess it will just be like this permanently or something, since i have no clue how to fix.
[04:57:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <azve> It's perfect with a VPN.
[05:10:49] <Guest73>	 Hello, I'm the owner of the "liaowiki" who requested in around 2024. I can't access my Discord so being ended up messaging there.
[05:11:12] <Guest73>	 And can you delay or postpone deleting this wiki?
[05:11:40] <Guest73>	 Because I can't access anything right now including the original Meta account nothing can be done here.
[05:11:44] <Guest73>	 Thank you.
[05:14:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> As said in the closure notification, if you don't have your original account, visit https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Requests_for_reopening_wikis to have it reopened.
[05:14:22] <Guest73>	 I tried to make a Discord account but was banned instantly. If there's any updates please send email to gp-liao@p2.aoo.bike thank you.
[05:14:47] <Guest73>	 Is there a way to lodge a request anothee way?
[05:15:16] <Guest73>	 Even my Meta account is currently not accessible. Or if I could make a separate account in the meantime?
[05:19:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Make a separate account to request reopening the wiki and explain your situation.
[05:22:58] <Guest73>	 IRC is somehow not easy to use, please email me back for this inquiry. Ill leave for now, thank you.
[06:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sniper4721sv> [1/2] it singing
[06:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sniper4721sv> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1494942739517669407/image.png?ex=69e4716b&is=69e31feb&hm=7cbe0b1ea6fb390de9f7f0553d8eb7f44580f8f635f21c51e4a935e5d868e28e&
[07:47:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> I have a community noticeboard question. What am I meant to do with the CAPTCHA box without a captcha attached that appears when I try and create a topic? (I'm trying to ask a long-form and admittedly somewhat rambling question which in my general experience discord is less well suited to.)
[08:25:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Do you have any extensions on
[08:26:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Shouldn't do, it was just on mobile.
[08:28:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to sakurababochka> [1/2] Are you using VisualEditor? It had some known issues with CAPTCHAs.
[08:28:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to sakurababochka> [2/2] Another solution is to remove any external links (or remove the `https://` part) from your post and add them back later.
[08:32:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] Probably? I don't know how to turn visual editor off on mobile. 
[08:32:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] I can do that with the links though, it's only to a Wikipedia page anyway. Thanks!
[08:35:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> That worked, thanks!
[09:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> hello chat so idk how to make a wiki but i need someone that knows how to make wiki templates
[09:47:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> luckily we have a wiki full of samples for you
[09:51:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> dev dot miraheze dot org
[10:54:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tostmaster> its not letting me link for some reason... can anyone help me recreate the infobox described in the support post titled "Infobox troubles"
[10:55:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> #verify for links
[13:10:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_, replying to rhinosf1> fr? where is that wiki
[13:11:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to iamfamiliar_> Read the message below mine
[13:19:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> oh 😭
[13:22:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> what am i looking at
[13:22:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> i'm confused
[13:24:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> ur looking at the miraheze dev wiki diva
[13:25:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Developers_Wiki
[13:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> this guide is for you if youre looking to make a wiki template https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
[13:25:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> the miraheze dev wiki is full of preset templates made for you
[13:26:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> I thought they made a wiki bro 😭
[14:32:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> [1/2] hi @lakeus i think you forgot to remove some }} in Lakeus' code
[14:32:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495069515501797618/image.png?ex=69e4e77d&is=69e395fd&hm=32be7e42882c93e68016fcb18b053bf5974103a3c8c1d424d906072eaeac8c4b&
[14:33:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> The evil }}
[14:45:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_, replying to whostacking> no i'm just asking for someone to help me not me making the wiki
[14:45:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> i'm not qualified for that
[14:45:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> girl why not learn
[14:46:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> What do you need help with?
[14:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_, replying to whostacking> no i'm more of a "director", per se
[14:47:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> i'm just gonna be the person
[14:48:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> leading
[14:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ye you might struggle with that
[14:49:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> ik
[14:49:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> u r better off finding someone within ur community to help you
[14:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> ight
[14:49:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <iamfamiliar_> bye
[14:50:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Good luck
[15:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heckerzard_42430> mm
[16:53:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <skfj> i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is it permissible to create a wiki on miraheze that covers the same topic as a fandom wiki without the permission of the fandom wiki's administrators?
[17:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [1/2] It’s allowed snd permissible, fairly common too. If you’re forking, you’d have to follow some precautions to ensure it’s valid under fandoms copyright policies.
[17:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [2/2] I’m not a miraheze staff so i don’t feel comfortable giving a more detailed answer other than I did that with Equestripedia years ago and I hadn’t really had any issues.
[17:09:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to skfj> what amelia said, its allowed but if ur gonna copy paste content from A to B, be wary of licenses!
[17:42:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zipppee, replying to skfj> covers the same topic is probably fine, if it is going to be essentially a mirror of it it would be slightly dodgier, but you can cover the same topic which would be fine
[17:43:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crisurbae> [1/2] https://ronanjeanpaul.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[17:43:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crisurbae> [2/2] guys what else should i add to the mainpage
[18:23:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to kai84> importing should be fine from a licensing point of view
[18:24:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> images may be a little more dicey but I'm not aware of any instances of fandom going after anyone even on wikis far bigger than any on miraheze
[18:34:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> [1/2] how can I prevent lazy loaded images inherit width and height within html from the placeholder
[18:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495130521045434579/image.png?ex=69e5204e&is=69e3cece&hm=068acd62f5df980759a7cc8b933800a760cfdd54c047798137ec8e0b60c8ac99&
[18:35:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> it overwrites css ⚰️
[18:35:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495130712800760010/image.png?ex=69e5207c&is=69e3cefc&hm=d4a4fa17d6ff258cbf29d8c0b5c03023843585d3d725326a0962444050d9190c&
[18:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> Its a recent thing that wasn't happening before
[18:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> wdym
[18:36:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> is this images added through js or is it through loading a template or what
[18:36:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> through a module yea
[18:37:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> so what should the width and height of the image be then?
[18:38:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> [1/2] it should be handled with css, I can add !importants which will solve the issue, but cause another issue as the element has more images that use other stylings a:dies:
[18:38:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495131386900648016/image.png?ex=69e5211c&is=69e3cf9c&hm=74fd44c902f43d39d08a7076891fca4a2a99b2de781f73f7268dc3129979071d&
[18:38:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> nesting final boss
[18:38:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> that explicid span > a > img was an attempt at fixing it
[18:41:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> !important = likly fragile code
[18:42:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> yep
[18:42:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to m6ga> where are the top stylings coming from?
[18:42:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> lazy loading
[18:42:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> at least thats my assumption
[18:43:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> inline styling has the highest specificity
[18:43:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> u cant override it without using !important
[18:43:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> or a parent
[18:49:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> welp I guess the only solution for now is to assign dimensions in the module
[18:56:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495135904443138078/image0.jpg?ex=69e52551&is=69e3d3d1&hm=da4374aded7500914e2e2e703c002e3e89f26314b4b74e46dc7b70d528cbe3a0&
[19:03:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stealthmanmc> hey, why does my wiki say lower-alpha 1 instead of a when i use {{Efn}}
[19:03:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Efn?action=edit&redlink=1>
[19:04:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stealthmanmc> and how can i change it to "a" or "b" etc
[19:57:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crisurbae> [1/2] sigh
[19:57:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crisurbae> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495151370628759692/image.png?ex=69e533b9&is=69e3e239&hm=f0a9a16cfd00661a4df28e294ff81f9421e0bb22c0e690102e59c94f4e75d5b7&
[20:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Couldn't you use `<nowiki>` to prevent that?
[20:02:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <truth_69420> Hello it appears that I can't log in because I have to "enable cookies"- but I can't find how to enable them...
[20:35:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to truth_69420> Clear your cookies
[20:35:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> The error message seems to be a bit bonkers
[20:37:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <truth_69420, replying to rhinosf1> I tried doing this two times it's still not working
[20:37:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to truth_69420> Try another browser or incognito mode then
[20:38:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <truth_69420, replying to rhinosf1> Thank you very much it worked, but does that mean I always have to use incognito mode now?
[20:39:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Nope
[20:39:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It'll solve itself eventually
[20:39:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <truth_69420> Alrighty, appreciate the help!:Partyheze:
[20:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to zipppee> I mean Miraheze is hosting what's essentially a mirror of Undertale and Deltarune wikis except with nonbinary erasure
[20:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Which I think sucks, but if you're following the licensing I'm pretty sure they aren't going to do anything
[21:04:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <skfj, replying to amelialoveheart> thanks for the info! and yeah i would be making it myself, without copying another wiki
[21:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to kockaadmiralac> unless they had an epic licensing fail or are also spreading hateful content there's not much to be done yeah :(
[21:19:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> They did but it wasn't epic enough for T&S to do anything lol
[21:20:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> wow i oughta go dig in the archives then
[21:20:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> what was the report # or email titled
[21:20:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> "Cyberpedia copyright violations and other context"
[21:21:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Email subject, I don't think I used the portal
[21:43:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere, replying to stealthmanmc> I have this issue on my wiki myself. I think it is something related to modules.
[21:56:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Cite_link_label_group-lower-alpha> You might want to copy this page over to your wiki to make the lower-alpha group work
[21:56:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I think that might be the missing thing
[22:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere, replying to kockaadmiralac> Works!
[22:13:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stealthmanmc, replying to kockaadmiralac> thanks
[22:22:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Is there an easy way to merge several articles? Like, essentially stack their contents on top of each other as a list.
[22:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere, replying to amelialoveheart> Transclusion?
[22:40:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kamidere> Like is your intention to not have the articles anymore or transclude parts of them?
[22:40:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> To not had them as articles, to merge them all
[22:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [1/6] I mean you could do something like ```
[22:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [2/6] ==Topic 1==
[22:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [3/6] {{subst::article 1}}
[22:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [4/6] ==Topic 2==
[22:42:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [5/6] {{subst::article 2}}
[22:42:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [6/6] ...```then delete all the articles afterwards
[22:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> otherwise <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging>
[22:43:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Thank you that probably works!
[22:44:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> iirc there was something like partial page history merging in recent mw updates but I'm not sure the details