[00:00:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kolicant17> Ah gotchat
[00:01:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kolicant17> Thanks
[01:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> Humans pshhhhh who needs 'em?
[01:20:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Other humans
[01:21:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> Laaaaame..
[02:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [1/3] Is there an extension that allows for both text and images to appear on things like Discord embed?
[02:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [2/3] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Takeko_Nakano
[02:56:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [3/3] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Holy_Grail_War
[03:15:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> I need some help
[03:16:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> I can't log in to any miraheze-based wiki because it keeps thinking my cookies are disabled
[03:16:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> they aren't
[03:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495986744573558845/image.png?ex=69e83db9&is=69e6ec39&hm=41df9b09e7dd487b5eebf783058bbd53714577ba0cceda47b5c0d6d1617de778&
[03:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1495986744867291227/image.png?ex=69e83dba&is=69e6ec3a&hm=b83b0d4ac35613848deb31eb856c0d0dacfe30e621c848457bb3ffdd0064d2ed&
[03:17:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> It's a bug right now. Have you tried logging in on the meta-wiki and then this wiki?
[03:18:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> not yet
[03:18:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> I guess I'll try now
[03:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> Okay THERE we go
[03:24:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tark0857, replying to afterglou> I had the same issue on a few of our wikis and I reckon this is related to the PortableInfobox extension. TextExtracts fails to retrieve the intro text when an article starts with an infobox, so you get no description. If you don't mind copypasting, you can use WikiSEO and just copy the article lead or create a custom one for pages that use infoboxes.
[03:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to tark0857> its a bit tedious to do it because my wiki page is kind of inherently built on bloating the wiki lmao
[04:48:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> [1/2] Does anyone know how to fix this? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1493231449749327932
[04:48:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> [2/2] I edited the Common.css yet the issue is not fixed on my end
[05:50:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to kockaadmiralac> Which task
[07:05:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to janebuzjane> I think I died and ascended to heaven to seeing LITERAL BONZI BUDDY ON MY SCREEN!
[07:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [1/6] That sounds about fair enough. My layout on my home wiki as an example is mainly like this:
[07:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [2/6] ```CharacterTab template
[07:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [3/6] Article background template
[07:10:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [4/6] Infobox template
[07:10:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [5/6] Quote template```
[07:10:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to unai> [6/6] Kinda kills article previews, sadly. :(
[07:35:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> anyone have any good reading material or primers for setting up a custom theme?
[07:36:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> i just don't know how many elements i will have to address and keep track of
[08:02:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to rhinosf1> [1/3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T276737>
[08:02:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to rhinosf1> [2/3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T423881>
[08:02:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to rhinosf1> [3/3] These two
[09:46:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Noticeboard/Request_for_feedback:_changes_to_default_MediaWiki_settings
[09:46:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/3] ^ Draft proposals about changes to Miraheze's default MediaWiki configuration.
[09:46:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [3/3] I will let this page sit for a few days to make sure there aren't any issues before starting the vote.
[09:47:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> [1/3] Is there a way to make these "recent changes" boxes displayed as only text like in the right image?
[09:47:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496085025748418652/image.png?ex=69e89942&is=69e747c2&hm=f0c76ef2fb241ddce870e16fb87e87a58f9ab76d42e2ea4ca9765272f6e003cd&
[09:47:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496085026134036580/Discord_mediawiki.png?ex=69e89942&is=69e747c2&hm=06cdf8513d93e133962b7269c901376904af62c680226949414bb63cd33871cf&
[10:14:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <warmaniac_bagelz_20636> i have connected my discord account to my miraheze account but the bot is saying it cant verify me due to an error
[10:15:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to warmaniac_bagelz_20636> unfortunately not much we can do about it, please check in with Wikibot's support server which is linked on the bot's profile
[10:18:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to philimania> [1/3] i believe the right image is outdated even for the original version that was last updated 5 years ago (mediawiki 1.25)
[10:18:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to philimania> [2/3] the repo has no signs of supporting it in plaintext form
[10:18:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to philimania> [3/3] shouldn't be too much of a hassle to add it back, but please do make a [[Phorge]] ticket about it
[10:18:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge>
[10:19:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> alright 👍
[10:23:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> that screenshot has been outdated for almost 9 years, what a trip https://github.com/kulttuuri/DiscordNotifications/pull/8/files
[10:29:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <warmaniac_bagelz_20636> can anyone update the polarity wiki request? i have last commented and edited it 4 days ago but nothing's happened.
[10:39:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to pskyechology> There's also WGL's Discord extension that can achieve something similar but it's not approved for Miraheze
[10:42:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> It's unfortunate that both of them rely on hooks because a lot of the interesting events just don't have hooks
[10:43:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Or when they do have hooks they don't have all the information needed
[10:49:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> Might be worth to look into using domain events instead of hooks at some point, which might provide more information
[10:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> They currently only have page domain events iirc
[10:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> yep
[10:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> but those might be useful
[10:50:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I think they cover pretty much the same thing as existing hooks but I'll have to check
[10:50:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> User domain events though would be more interesting because
[10:50:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I think grabbing the unblock reason and rename performer isn't currently possible?
[10:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to kockaadmiralac> It might be easier to add additional ones upstream though than to add new hooks
[10:50:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Well
[10:51:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I guess it's possible just ugly
[10:51:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to abaddriverlol> Yeah
[10:51:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> But in the page domain I think we're covered already
[10:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> [1/2] I recently forked WGL's extension to fix some things for UT/DR and the logs I listed just don't exist
[10:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496101778024960090/image.png?ex=69e8a8dc&is=69e7575c&hm=142b05f4e3f8b8561be73f14ab936212038770a378c073eb6feff4040ea44620&
[10:55:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Renames coming from 127.0.0.1 is really funny because they use RequestContext::getMain()->getUser() to grab the performer
[10:55:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Which is why user domain events could be interesting
[10:58:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> I don't see an open task for those unfortunately, might be worth making one
[11:00:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> MWI is responsible for the component in core, so we'd probably need a few use cases in WMF code
[11:01:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> yay more stuff in my pile
[11:02:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> To be honest I can't see them not implementing performer and reason fields for these particular domain events when they get around to them so maybe it's just a matter of waiting
[11:03:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> If they don't I'll yell at them
[11:03:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> call us up if you need more yelling power
[11:04:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> But for AF, Interwiki and OAuth I guess I'll have to open tasks
[11:04:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I forgot to add global blocks to that list but that one already has a hook
[11:05:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to kockaadmiralac> For the hooks or domain events?
[11:06:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I feel like you can't meaningfully group them under a domain in order to request a domain event
[11:06:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> But maybe it's worth trying
[11:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> ugh is there really no hook for interwiki table changes?
[11:06:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Doesn't look like it
[11:07:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to abaddriverlol> can we subject @thewwrnerdguy to untold horrors by asking him to do it
[11:07:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> ig nobody thought of it when merging the extension into core
[11:07:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> lol
[11:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pskyechology> ETA: 15 years
[11:08:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> might have to use two cookies on that one but my very uneducated and not seen interwiki code mind thinks it should be cake in your walk
[11:08:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to thewwrnerdguy> that's not too bad for a core feature, there are tasks that have been open longer than that
[11:09:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i would say "me" but i still have the gift of only really existing in the mediawiki space for a year
[11:09:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> cant wait for the eulogy of things i said i'd do in 14 years
[11:09:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> That one Tim Starling comment saying "My daughter was born when this task was opened and now she's 7 years old"
[11:10:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Something like that
[11:10:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I have to find it lmao
[11:10:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to pskyechology> tbf often times nobody says they'll do it
[11:10:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> a lot of tasks just stay open because nobody is bold enough to close them
[11:11:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> nah we all know they exist just so new people can get klapped for not knowing of a 20 year old task for the issue that finally annoyed them enough into doing something
[11:12:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i should make more honeypot tasks
[11:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> all part of my very sinister totally real plans
[11:14:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> anyway why is my smartcard reader driver from 2006 😭
[12:05:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to kockaadmiralac> Tim has some awesome quotes
[12:09:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I can't find that on bash
[12:09:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I've heard similar before
[12:09:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Kids are a good way to make things feel old
[12:15:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to tark0857> disable `$wgPortableInfoboxUseHeadings`. cc @afterglou
[13:06:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [1/2] Works for me
[13:06:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [2/2] The good article doesn't wrap, but it's because you only defined tleft and not tright
[13:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese, replying to janebuzjane> How would I fix this? Not exactly a MediaWiki pro my bad
[13:08:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> Mostly self taught atm
[13:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/11] On line 116, add the tright classes 
[13:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/11] ```div.tleft, div.floatleft, table.floatleft, div.tright, div.floatright, table.floatright {
[13:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [3/11]     float: left;
[13:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [4/11]     clear: left;
[13:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [5/11] }```
[13:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [6/11] Or, since they are right-aligned classes, make them float right:
[13:15:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [7/11] ```div.tright, div.floatright, table.floatright {
[13:15:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [8/11]     float: right;
[13:15:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [9/11]     clear: right;
[13:15:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [10/11] }```
[13:15:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [11/11] CSS changes don't show up immediately, you'll have to wait a few minutes and then hard-refresh (CTRL+F5 or ALT+F5) your browser. If they still don't appear, add `?debug=2` to the end of a URL to temporarily bypass the cache
[13:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> May also want to add the margins that are in this screenshot
[14:01:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thatonemagma> [1/2] whats the size of the icon in corner? I tried adding a custom one but i think its too big
[14:01:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thatonemagma> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496148897871954140/image.png?ex=69e8d4be&is=69e7833e&hm=5f29a1752cdc756bc9beb4008e8ed945e5b367154126c6984920a600e718503a&
[14:08:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> 135x135 pixels (<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLogo>)
[14:27:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese, replying to janebuzjane> How do I add the margins in? This is all like a foreign language to me lmao
[14:28:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> [1/2] What it looks like now bta
[14:28:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496155718431019069/image.png?ex=69e8db18&is=69e78998&hm=af7a44648fd0cdb4041da29041874e4e74ebc07ba363bed8e0c474644aaf8af8&
[14:28:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> *btw
[14:56:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> [1/2] does any know what cause of this error?:pupCoffeeMH:  one of the editors upload a file and some how encounter this error
[14:56:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496162719601000450/image.png?ex=69e8e19d&is=69e7901d&hm=70d56d23084ee650d096a433e9b06abc61d8b814d045a732b9bf87f231de723a&
[14:57:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> and once i upload the imagine he as well now able to upload again
[14:57:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> which is strange
[14:58:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to jineverfade> having the shared file thing enabled maybe?
[14:58:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> wikimedia commons
[15:11:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jineverfade> :stare: oh i see
[15:27:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [1/9] You didn't make any changes to add `tright`, that's why it's not wrapping for your good article. that article uses the class `tright` instead of `tleft`, so it's not getting any styling. You have `tleft` in your Common.css, now add `tright`, using either of the codes you were given above.
[15:27:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [2/9] If you look at the screenshot I originally sent you, you can see there's code that says `margin: 0.5em 1.3em 1.3em 0;`. You would add that within the curly braces for your `tright` and `tleft` classes, although you may have to swap it around a bit because `tleft` and `tright` won't use the same right and left [margins](<https://developer.mozilla.org/e
[15:27:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [3/9] n-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/Properties/margin>) (the four values are a shorthand for margin-top, margin-right, margin-bottom, margin-left)
[15:27:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [4/9] ```div.tright, div.floatright, table.floatright {
[15:27:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [5/9]     float: right;
[15:27:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [6/9]     clear: right;
[15:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [7/9]     margin: 0.5em 1.3em 1.3em 0;
[15:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [8/9] }```
[15:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to schmerzencheese> [9/9] If you are unfamiliar with CSS, [this guide is a good start](<https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_write_HTML_and_CSS>). The fastest way to figure it out imho is to use Inspect Element in your browser and see what styling affects different items on the page
[15:28:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese, replying to janebuzjane> I will do this now, much appreciated again!
[15:28:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <schmerzencheese> This time next year I'll be teaching you CSS, mark by words
[15:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/2] I look forward to it /gen 💃 
[15:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/2] You can always test CSS before adding it to Common.css by adding it to `User:YourUsername/common.css` or by using an extension like Stylus too
[15:50:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to thewwrnerdguy> https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Takeko_Nakano
[15:50:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> nope
[15:50:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> doesnt seem to work yet
[15:50:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> maybe it feels a bit of time
[16:10:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Main
[16:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> what part of this template results in the indent?
[16:13:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> im trying to make a template that looks similar that basically says "This name follows Eastern naming conventions. The surname is "blank"
[16:19:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> This new template also seems to have an odd issue where it auto-unbolds my infobox headers...
[16:21:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Eastern
[16:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> and for some reason when i take it out it remains unbolded
[16:22:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> i think i should just make all headers bolded in common.css
[16:32:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> idk how to do that though
[16:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> or at least i tried and it didnt seem to work
[16:33:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> is there no way to add a discord <iframe> to a wiki?
[16:35:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> Okay you know what I actually don't what the reason is anymore because it was bold by default for 3 days ago, and every page before has a default bold, and it still does, but if put any sort of template before the infobox, even if i take it back out, it just deletes that bolding i guess
[16:45:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to thornium> Should be --> <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Replacements_for_the_Widgets_extension>
[16:47:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> [1/2] In some of your infoboxes you've added bolding to the variable itself and sometimes you haven't, which could explain the difference in behavior that you're seeing
[16:47:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496190622208360718/image.png?ex=69e8fb9a&is=69e7aa1a&hm=5d775647ecf8e56447875994fb75782979c50d9cbaac44654df5d280d43c2bbe&
[16:48:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to janebuzjane> that was because the template removed it
[16:48:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium, replying to janebuzjane> oh alright, nice
[16:48:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> i tried it with some of the other pages
[16:48:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> the ones i didnt need to cause they used western name order
[16:48:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> just out of curiosity
[16:48:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [1/2] i added it to MediaWiki:Common.js and this to bottom of the main page, but it doesn't appear
[16:48:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496191012119511061/image.png?ex=69e8fbf7&is=69e7aa77&hm=609f4208412d2f5c9eb3ad442da24f73ad586f938d2d532bfd0be647f90aaac9&
[16:48:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> not just {{Eastern}} but any template from Tabs to {{Main}} would also cause it to weird out
[16:48:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Eastern?action=edit&redlink=1>
[16:48:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Main>
[16:53:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to thornium> JS is cached, so it will take some time to appear. Did you add your widget's ID and the theme (dark or light) to the code? Otherwise nothing will appear even after a refresh.
[16:54:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium, replying to janebuzjane> to what code? the JS or the page?
[16:54:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> also where do i add the theme i didn't see anything about that in the wiki page you sent
[16:54:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [1/2] OH okay i see now
[16:54:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496192520344965271/image.png?ex=69e8fd5e&is=69e7abde&hm=5f1c033f2e8d6f345491c4303f7306f5c6f38f54ca1cfef8676e85b2ebbb731e&
[16:55:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> why did i assume it's gonna work without knowing the id even 🤦
[16:56:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> what's the syntax for the data?
[16:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> Are you just trying to make sure infobox titles are bolded / are looking for CSS to fix that? Or are you trying to debug the templates?
[16:59:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to thornium> [1/2] Your widget ID is going to go between the `""` where `id` is now, and you should just be able to replace the word `theme` with `dark` or `light`
[16:59:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to thornium> [2/2] I've never used this before but that's my best guess
[16:59:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> oh hm
[17:01:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> you should probably also set height and width
[17:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496194170698862684/image.png?ex=69e8fee8&is=69e7ad68&hm=7461346c9bfa4e8bb248f24d2763f57b9275a284c4e1530d3a4cb579e2cc73a2&
[17:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> oh true
[17:03:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> thanks
[17:03:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [1/2] perfect, thank you
[17:03:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496194801295556779/image.png?ex=69e8ff7e&is=69e7adfe&hm=1a543a1a7b9fa2e52146199407bc10b1ac8b2e13ba7b882dbd0ca2b5ca2cff9c&
[17:04:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to janebuzjane> unsure about debugging, but if going into css to universally make sure all titles remain bolded no matter what is fine enough for me, just solves my problem
[17:04:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium, replying to janebuzjane> also i just realized it uses `$()` so it's jquery so i googled "jquery data" and found out how to do it
[17:04:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> cause tbh i dont even understand where the problem is coming from
[17:04:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [1/2] it's done like this
[17:04:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496194914923446292/image.png?ex=69e8ff99&is=69e7ae19&hm=4324333ef4929d92f8db16ab6ac3222fdf6cd2193b308d64f28d5df41e7eefe4&
[17:04:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> with "data-"
[17:05:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to thornium> Write `<div id="discord-widget" data-width="200px" data-height="400px" data-theme="dark" data-id="YOUR DISCORD SERVER ID">/div`
[17:05:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> a tad bit late
[17:05:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> lmao
[17:05:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thornium> xd
[17:06:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> easy as pie, good callout too
[17:06:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> just portable infobox titles or all headers across your wiki?
[17:09:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> yeah
[17:10:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> i tried fiddling with it, but im not sure it worked properly since the weird unbold-titles thing still showed
[17:13:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jjtech> is there an easy way to do SSO auth against Discord?
[17:13:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to janebuzjane> sorry this is not a yes or no question 😭, all titles and headers i think since headers should be bold by default too, but i feel like theres a non-zero possibility i could have a similar issue going forward
[17:16:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jjtech, replying to jjtech> like still have a wiki user but have some way to automatically grant permissions/groups based on discord roles
[17:19:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jjtech> No
[17:19:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/3] Citizen skin has variables for font weight. For infobox titles (the ones that appear at the top of the box), add `font-weight: var(--font-weight-bold);` to line 8 of your MediaWiki:Common.css. When I add that to my personal css, this is what I see:
[17:19:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/3] Infobox headers ("Appearance," "Characteristics," the ones inside the infobox) get applied the variable `font-weight-semi-bold` already, as do your `H2` and `h3` from what I can see
[17:19:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496198669245092011/image.png?ex=69e90318&is=69e7b198&hm=047e7f31727bc74d646a633ae368de4988930887028df794dda7a4f8a55a3c61&
[17:20:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jjtech, replying to rhinosf1> Can I do the other way around, somehow authenticate via Mirahenze against a custom website?
[17:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jjtech> I mean you can do either way round but you're going to have to write code
[17:21:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jjtech> This would require some middleware developing that allows you to login to both discord and Miraheze
[17:22:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> And assigns permissions in sync
[17:22:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We have services that do login with Miraheze
[17:23:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> And we have #verify that allows connect mediawiki and discord
[17:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou, replying to janebuzjane> `.pi-title {font-weight: var(--font-weight-bold);text-align: center}` like so?
[17:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [1/2] yep, you got it
[17:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> [2/2] CSS changes don't show up immediately, you'll have to wait a few minutes and then hard-refresh (CTRL+F5 or ALT+F5) your browser. If they still don't appear after that, add ?debug=2 to the end of a URL to temporarily bypass the cache
[17:29:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> alright thank you
[17:29:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> np
[17:30:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> i will come back if there remains any issues
[17:30:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> oh right last bit
[17:31:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [1/3] how do i add an indentation to this template, similar to how {{Main}} appears
[17:31:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [2/3] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Main
[17:31:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> [3/3] https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Eastern
[17:31:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Main>
[17:53:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> [1/2] Add a colon `:` before the text; you've got one in Main but not in Eastern
[17:53:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to afterglou> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496207251705303212/image.png?ex=69e90b16&is=69e7b996&hm=07b0e49d9f7549cafca0d69eba33e4a36845df9a9c790eeed643d7c90a9d0142&
[17:53:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> ah there we go
[17:53:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> kept lookin at it
[17:54:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> fantastic
[18:55:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to afterglou> it won't work until parser cache is cleared so yeah wait a bit
[18:58:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> https://reconvergentfates.miraheze.org/wiki/Matsunaga_Hisahide
[18:58:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <afterglou> beautiful
[19:39:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted> How long am I supposed to wait, generally, for changes when I apply anything to common.css, vector-2022.css or vector.css?
[19:44:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Usually about 10 minutes, 20 at the worst. You can put them on your personal css page to make it basically instant though.
[20:08:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hyperscandev> Is changing the wiki subdomain possible?
[20:09:18] <Crystalite13>	 yes
[20:09:28] <Crystalite13>	 you can make a request on phorge
[20:19:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> Whoops, didn't mean to quit earlier
[20:21:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to .copyrighted> to add on what amelia said, you can also put `?debug=2` at the end of the url to bypass caching
[20:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [1/2] I have a question: can I create a tabbed section like this example:
[20:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496244488966770958/image.png?ex=69e92dc5&is=69e7dc45&hm=68360ea9b70965802967431f936a07833488921a70507f129944cbc697781001&
[20:22:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lynn.in> tabberneue extension
[20:25:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted, replying to thewwrnerdguy> <3
[20:25:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted, replying to amelialoveheart> Thanks also, didn't know this!
[20:37:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <overseas_10665> Is there a place for big reports
[20:38:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <overseas_10665> Uncovered a pretty serious XSS exploit and I don't know how effective it would be if repeated on Miraheze
[20:38:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <overseas_10665> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496248813134811328/Screenshot_2026-04-21-13-23-36-31_df198e732186825c8df26e3c5a10d7cd.jpg?ex=69e931cc&is=69e7e04c&hm=77d45d63fd2efdc0eeb9af0e0ce2e750b683236cd5a221ff5ff147d9b5cc9b18&
[20:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067, replying to lynn.in> Cheers!
[20:40:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to overseas_10665> Please DM me
[20:52:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted> [1/2] Does anyone know how to stylize menus like this?
[20:52:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496252404885360790/9003B0AA-7D31-46EB-ACB8-D648FE03C6FD.png?ex=69e93524&is=69e7e3a4&hm=114930f8125d625795169291204a4a43bf31593610badb471b82db5c2235ad4b&
[21:11:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> looks like some clip path
[21:11:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> or a svg mask
[21:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> its an image
[21:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [1/2] Can I disable this tabber animation
[21:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496258401280200814/20260421171607_chrome.mp4?ex=69e93aba&is=69e7e93a&hm=ae3720da5e8c4c36f4f1e35190184f1d00e0b0ebc480f4ea5aa890f921e7d8ad&
[21:17:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> found it
[21:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> nvm
[21:18:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Give it a bit
[21:18:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> turning the smooth animation off did nothing
[21:18:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> hm?
[21:18:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> ManageWiki changes take time to apply
[21:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> Assuming you changed $wgTabberNeueEnableAnimation
[21:19:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> oh
[21:19:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <roboninja4067> I did, yes
[21:30:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to overseas_10665> [1/2] For those who are curious, this is a publicly known vulnerability in MediaWiki. It was first reported in August last year and we patched it a few hours after knowing about it.
[21:30:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to overseas_10665> [2/2] Other hosts may be using older versions of MediaWiki which do not have this patch, which was the likely cause of this report.
[21:31:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.copyrighted, replying to unai> I don't know what either of those are.
[21:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to kockaadmiralac> @posix_memalign what about this and portableinfoboxuseheadings, these both seem to be settings that only ever cause issues
[22:01:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0, replying to overseas_10665> is that a fucking kayloo pfp??? 😭
[22:01:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> :sobshrimp:
[22:08:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [1/2] Sounds good. Feel free to add these to the RfF. I'm not familiar with portableinfoboxuseheadings but I've been a hater of TabberNeue animations since [T12350](https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12350).
[22:08:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> [2/2] We also need to decide whether we want this change to apply to all wikis or just to new wikis.
[22:16:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> [1/2] Why can't I add interwiki prefixes on [this wiki](https://weltenzyklopadie.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki)? I could do it just fine in another wiki I'm an admin in
[22:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <philimania> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496273405887119430/image.png?ex=69e948b3&is=69e7f733&hm=f4d7505d5989b1920eeffff9eaddcb0f764e3d3713b6f1a071c2b6a0eb7a2818&
[22:18:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> If you're a bureaucrat you likely need to grant yourself the ability to add interwiki prefixes
[22:18:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to philimania> my guess is it's an older one, go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions and give your user groups the interwiki right
[22:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> [1/3] Says here that I can load jswikibot globally on Meta, but when I try it, I get an abuse warning
[22:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> [2/3] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Jswikibot
[22:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496274125088362546/Screenshot_2026-04-21_at_5.17.36_PM.png?ex=69e9495e&is=69e7f7de&hm=49caf1997a0dde57b422b2663ac392d882c41c31124098bed55acf9cef3c4d37&
[22:22:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to tennisplayer4157> Looks like CVT should adjust the abuse filters. I'll raise this privately with CVT since it's a global filter.
[22:22:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tennisplayer4157> Ok, I'll load it locally for now
[22:33:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> I vote for master chief from halo for director
[22:33:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13> Elections
[22:33:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13> Yay
[22:33:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> And uh, for the second seat, Britney Spears circa 2007 with shaved head
[22:34:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> As you can tell, I am very active in this particular community, of which I am very fond
[22:35:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> I vote for uhhh
[22:36:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <albany_prim0> I vote for Papa Mage yes yes /j
[22:40:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> You'll never guess who one of my votes is...
[22:41:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1496279656712634559/tmp_5bc0b90e-f60a-4b5d-bee8-8c00206d5b08.png?ex=69e94e85&is=69e7fd05&hm=dda0e79b2eddd25e5af7cc0a33aa2f533431f7b1786f2fce6e4f2a293e0edd80&
[22:41:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> Im not old enough to vote
[22:41:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to sylphoid> no voting for you
[22:41:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sylphoid> Im still baby
[22:41:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to thewwrnerdguy> are the votes public if you know
[22:42:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to kai84> I think petrus/kiju would be able to confirm or deny but iirc it's not public while voting is ongoing. it might be public at the end (the tallies definitely will be public)
[22:43:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> okay thanks
[22:44:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> whether or not my choices stay anonymous is important to me personally
[22:47:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] I’m eating right now but I can explain how securepoll works later. Maybe I’ll do it on MH Monthly too.
[22:47:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] TLDR: the system is designed to avoid this situation. 2 or 3 people in the whole world can read your vote if they collude with one of tech. They are all stewards or trusted members of the MW community, so the chance of that happening is very low.
[22:48:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> thanks for confirmation:D
[23:28:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to thewwrnerdguy> $wgPortableInfoboxHeadings already has a pull request to change it to false
[23:28:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> And idk about the animation I disabled it on UT/DR because we're using tabbers for maps and the animation kinda fucks with lazyloading
[23:28:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> But it's not like super bad otherwise
[23:34:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> How do you vote on that RfF I don't see a section for voting lol
[23:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to kockaadmiralac> [1/2] It's still a draft rn and proposals are being added/removed/split as feedback arrive.
[23:43:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to kockaadmiralac> [2/2] I'll wait for at least a day or two before starting it (and adding voting sections).
[23:47:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to posix_memalign> For the VE section, is the proposal to enable it by default? Wasn't sure from the text of the proposal
[23:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to janebuzjane> Yes. I'll elaborate in the title.